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Title: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on June 06, 2012, 05:35:02 am
This journal is about my adventures transitioning to a living raw paleo diet and is seeking your guidance by providing a good oversight : )

My family have banned high meat experiments to the shed. The raw meat can stay in the fridge ("what do you mean it gets better with age and I can't put it in the freezer?")

Yesterdays diet:
RP - Greens + sprout smoothie, apples, mandarins, soaked almonds, fermented greens & whitebait, raw beef
semi-RP - raw bacon
CP - stir fry of bacon, mince, cabbage in coconut milk; lightly roasted pickled pork
Traditional - butter; cheese; marmalade; coffee; pinot noir

Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on June 07, 2012, 04:58:46 am
Have been a glutton again over eating and moving into CP and MSD foods... need to remember to drink and find hunger between meals, plus get exercise twice a day.

Yesterdays best RP foods - bananas, mandarins, fermented greens/fish, raw beef, lump of 2 week room temp meat - interesting smell and taste, certainly still have a happy tummy this morning : )

This mornings RP - fermented greens/fish (I have been holding this against a dead tooth where I can feel a low level infection in the root and the tooth is feeling better), lump of stinky meat... Went walking up the hill through a fresh snow fall ' '   
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on June 07, 2012, 04:45:00 pm
gold kiwifruit, grapes, salad.
Overnight made fermented blended RPD smoothie with probiotics in a yogurt maker, ate for dinner with sour cream wrapped in bacon. Holding ferment against gum to help tooth.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Haai on June 07, 2012, 10:05:25 pm
Is your intention to eventually be eating 100% raw paleo?
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on June 08, 2012, 02:13:09 pm
@Haai, yes if RP gives me more aliveness and asleepness then I am keen to be 100%.
Any tips on how to achieve this?
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on June 08, 2012, 02:55:09 pm
Thinking about it the most important thing is to have a stable diet improvement, so maybe 90% RP with 10% low carb hi fat (sour cream, yogurt, butter, CP) would be a good place to get to : )

Today have eaten stinky meat, fermented greens/liver/kidney/heart (using yogurt maker & multi probiotics), bananas, chocolate (oops), fruit smoothie, stinky meat, ferment greens/organs, sour cream, apples, fijoas.

It was amazing to be swilling stinky meat around in my mouth - who would have thought it!
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on June 13, 2012, 08:43:08 am
It has been tough visiting the dark side of carbo-topia... so this mornings solution was a RP pledge and a detox mix (liver kidney fish greens sprouts soaked coconut):

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RP angles (vultures?) please help guide me on this path : )
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on June 27, 2012, 01:46:31 pm
Have been enjoying a butcher with organic grass fed lamb chops, they are nice and fatty. It's strange how little smell or taste they have compared to cooked. I guess taste buds will adjust with time. Easy to eat now I know not to chew too much!

High meat has been good - again surprisingly inoffensive smell, and not much taste. The meat disolved in my mouth - both our cat & hens liked to eat it.When I was in a cooked phase the smell made me feel sick.

Over ripe fruit that we would have fed to chickens is good too - seems very paleo. Plus some green offal smoothies.

Doing fabulous bowl motions, much more fun than while on SMD.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on July 10, 2012, 10:44:25 am
Have been really enjoying eating mostly RP foods and am feeling stronger and calmer than before. My favorite foods have been fresh raw lamb chops, Fijian tuna, fatty beef off-cuts, frozen baby cuttlefish, defrosted raw prawns, bananas, oranges, and green smoothies.
Fresh apples and kiwifruit are too acidic and hurt my teeth, after they are a couple of weeks older they can be OK.
Had a family BBQ today and tasted cooked steak, sausage & cuttlefish - it tasted not so good, so taste buds must be recovering.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on July 14, 2012, 05:05:15 am
RP diet has been going very well and many health benefits for me (listed below).

However, for some reason, emotional probably, have been eating oats, bread, jam and sugar over last two days and now have been experiencing the negative effects:

- Low endurance - easily fatigued, quickly start sweating and feeling a little dizzy
- Knee joint has started to ache for no reason
- Stronger headaches and more difficult to think straight
- Alternating constipation and diarrhea

My recovery plan is to follow this diet (approx by weight):
1/3 raw meat/fat/offal/seafood
1/3 raw low acid fruit - to help my teeth, eg bananas, over-ripe apples, dates etc
1/3 other plant matter - leaves, stems, nuts (love soaked almonds)

Plus tea with milk.

As listed on health topic my high RP diet health Improvements have been:
+ More stable energy levels, less fatigue, better mood
+ Lower back pain has gone, feeling strong
+ Hardly ever fart now - before I was farting all the time
+ Better tolerance of high and low temperatures
+ Good bowel motions, no constipation, rectal bleeding stopped
+ Knee pain - random internal joint pain gone
+ Dead tooth pain - from root canal removal, ache gone
+ Headaches - former constant background headache reduced
+ Sleeping - former insomnia gone
+ Relaxed jaw - less jaw clenching and tooth grinding (a sign of pain in animals)

Note to future self - REMEMBER THIS!!!
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on August 26, 2012, 01:15:30 pm
Before - 80~90% raw vegan, no exercise, too skinny, get cold easily:
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After - 80~90% raw paleo, no exercise, I'm very pleased with improvement to my physique and posture - feeling much stronger, more erect, and with a nice layer of fat:
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Warm fermented blended meat (inoculated with yogurt) with warm fermented leek jus on a bed of purple cabbage:
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Interesting grow on surface came from broad spectrum probiotic sprinkled on top, including a beneficial yeast, all went down a treat and tummy been feeling great ever since, even with a few 'bad' foods down the hatch . The meat inoculation was with B.O.D. strain of Bifidus (Bacillus Laterosporus).
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on September 06, 2012, 07:31:43 pm
After realising that many of my symptoms relate to sugar / carb processing problems I have been eating low-carb and am feeling stronger, good energy, better sleep. My staple food is lamb chops, plus some fish, carrots, purple cabbage, fermented RAVF, walnuts & hazel nuts. This is very physically satisfying and it is obvious that not much food consumption is required on this high energy diet.

I have been reducing my cheating and directing it to low carb foods (raw bacon, peanut butter, cooked chicken, cheese) which is helping.

Now I feel more energy I am finding work and family easier and I have started daily exercising - hill walking so far.

Thanks to Inger's posts, I have just started eating blended fish heads & fish offal, with stinging nettles from the garden.

I have stopped using my vaporiser and am focusing on breathing only fresh air, which is a great step forward :)

Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on September 24, 2012, 04:40:31 am
My taste buds are adapting to this RPD - eating raw lambs heart, kidneys, and liver now tastes fine. I am interested to hold these foods against my tongue to really taste them. People ask what does it taste like, and I can only really say 'it tastes like raw liver' As someone who wouldn't dissect frogs in biology I am pleased to be able to slice & eat animal bits just fine.

I still wake up tired and with a headache, both of which persist throughout the day, but I am now enjoying night long sleep and consistent energy throughout the day. I have been doing aerobic exercise and eating clay to help with detox.

Since I have problems with my brain I am keen to try eating brain to see if that would help - I will refine the fish head processing to pre-chop before blending.

I am feeling very strong in myself and I love having this solid evolutionary diet philosophy. I have been reading a book about the importance of eye contact and put this into practice at our Tamariki (meaning children in Maori) School promotion stall at the Mind Body Spirit festival. It was great to look people in the eye and ask 'have you heard of Tamariki School'.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on September 26, 2012, 03:17:06 am
Feeling like crap today with headaches, lethargy and bloating today after eating custard last night.
This cycle seems to be smoke dope, which creates unnatural eating desires (the munchies), eat crap. feel like crap, drink coffee to encourage bowel movements to get rid of crap, smoke more dope to feel better about feeling like crap...   -[

2 weeks ago I remember feeling great - energy, clarity, contentment, only eating when hungry, eating variety meats until satisfied.

Then carbo-addiction emotional eating returned to bloat me up like this:
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I am thinking the best path to recovery is to eat low energy raw vegetables for several days to provide nutrients with gentle exercise to burn off overloaded energy stores, then when my guts feel recovered to restart with variety and high meats to regain aliveness  :)

I want robust mental and physical health again please.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: cherimoya_kid on September 26, 2012, 07:10:30 am

This cycle seems to be smoke dope, which creates unnatural eating desires (the munchies), eat crap. feel like crap, drink coffee to encourage bowel movements to get rid of crap, smoke more dope to feel better about feeling like crap...   -[


One of my stoner friends has mentioned this happening to him a lot.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 26, 2012, 10:12:55 am
Really brother? That's a bummer! I get the munchies when I puff too, but I make sure to have good food around and I gorge on that instead! Nothing wrong with gorging on grassfed heritage cream (unless you don't tolerate dairy!) or A raw smoothie of banana/truly free range eggs, or a nice, raw cole slaw made from scratch! The best way I avoid eating shit, is by not buying shit! If I can avoid the urge to pick it up while I'm at the store, battle's pretty much over! Of course if you have fam that is not RVAF, or is eating that other stuff, makes it tougher because they are still buying that stuff. But it's a process, doesn't happen over night, and, if you choose, you can learn to puff AND still eat healthfully, of course it will be no great loss if you quit burning anyhow, it's a nicety not a necessity!
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on September 26, 2012, 12:24:13 pm
@Thoth = are your family all RP?
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 04, 2012, 03:57:37 am
@Haai - on reflection of my compulsive / addictive relationship with food I realise that 100% RPD will work best for me.

My taste buds are making good progress and now I am happy to bite into whole grass fed lambs heart, liver, and kidney. Sometimes I think that this is disgusting, but quickly remind myself that these thoughts are just social conditioning. My skin is feeling great, and my cracked feet are now soft and supple, from this natural dietary animal fat sourced 'mosturiser' being applied from the inside.   ;D

Yesterday in a halfhearted effort to be raw got dried fruit for myself. After over consuming this very sweat stuff I woke up at 3 am with night sweats, felt cold the rest of the morning, and woke up fatigued - so back to low carb for me. It's unfortunate how stupid my MSD addled brain can be! To assist in recovery I am eating fermented greens and high meat daily.

As people propose on this forum I am very interested in starting a hiit type program to boost my metabolism and also intermittent fasting to re-balance my digestion.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: CitrusHigh on October 04, 2012, 04:31:05 am
Hey Alive,
No, but I do the grocery shopping and I don't buy shit for other people, they have to get it for themselves but won't go to the store unless there is no food in the house, so not much for junky food shows up here. It is usually real food at bare minimum, and anything that is not real food doesn't tempt me at all, I don't like the taste of processed foods any longer plus the psyche factor re what it is doing to my health, not worth it anymore, no draw!
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 15, 2012, 07:29:08 am
Still having a bit of a boring time detoxing from previous episode.
 
I thought eating fruit would be OK as it is instincto - but I guess that only works once the body has rebalanced, as I had night sweats smelling of luncheon sausage, return of back ache, feeling cold, insomnia etc.

On the positive side I have managed to keep away from smoking and cooked food.

It seems from this forum that wild seafood and grass fed offal are the super foods for me to focus on, with some hunger, exercise and veges mixed in. I suppose I could also treat myself to some raw grass fed beef and lamb :)
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 18, 2012, 12:39:21 pm
Well my attempt last week at 'instincto' eating a medium amount of fruit resulted in constipation, sore kidneys, and sore lower back. I expect that a microbe imbalance caused my bowels to become irritable and lock up. I have been eating lots of fresh and fermented herbs to no effect. So I used a garden hose enema to help - hose on low, apply hose (no need to insert) wait until you feel quite full, hang upside down to assist, repeat. Starting to feel better, but still more blocked higher up needing to progress for total recovery. Previously smoking herb helped to relax my bowels in this situation, but I'm over that now. Maybe a cup of black coffee would help - that always makes my body want to go :)
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 19, 2012, 03:38:03 am
OK had two strong cups of black coffee this morning and its toxic effect has worked and got my bowels moving again. It has made me feel more anxiety, but that's worth it as a temporary measure to get things moving.

After the constipation caused my lower spine to go straight it is now  regaining its correct curve (praise the lordosis) as the pressure is reduced, and my tummy is returning to its fabulous slim RPD state :)

Whats on the menu today... beef liver, high dirty fish, sunflower seeds (very affordable), and I better remember to have some fresh eggs and greens :)

I discarded the possum intestines since I am not quite ready yet for that experiment - if the possum ate foods that would largely be toxic to us (tree leaves) does that mean the intestine contents would also be toxic, or would the possum digestion and liver have already removed most of these?
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 19, 2012, 10:27:11 am
I discarded the possum intestines since I am not quite ready yet for that experiment - if the possum ate foods that would largely be toxic to us (tree leaves) does that mean the intestine contents would also be toxic, or would the possum digestion and liver have already removed most of these?

I'd be super-careful about eating possums or basically any creature that lives around humans and eats their garbage.  If you can be sure the creature hasn't been eating garbage, or eating in or near fields that have been sprayed with pesticides, you're probably OK.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 19, 2012, 11:30:00 am
@CK - possums don't eat garbage over here. We live on the edge of a forest reserve where they eat 100% wild organic tree foliage. My main concern is that there are poison bait traps in the reserve, so I need to find out if they are using a fast or slow acting bait. Fast acting should be fine as they will die before getting here, but if it is a slow acting bait then I could end up poisoning myself. The other more minor concern is they are known to carry tuberculosis, but TB has never been found in my area so this should be fine. Next I want to try trapping a rabbit as there are heaps hopping around the place... maybe the possum trap would also work for rabbits...
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 19, 2012, 11:49:28 am
@CK - possums don't eat garbage over here. We live on the edge of a forest reserve where they eat 100% wild organic tree foliage. My main concern is that there are poison bait traps in the reserve, so I need to find out if they are using a fast or slow acting bait. Fast acting should be fine as they will die before getting here, but if it is a slow acting bait then I could end up poisoning myself. The other more minor concern is they are known to carry tuberculosis, but TB has never been found in my area so this should be fine. Next I want to try trapping a rabbit as there are heaps hopping around the place... maybe the possum trap would also work for rabbits...

Yeah, I'd definitely check on those poisons. 
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 21, 2012, 12:22:44 am
Anyone know where I can get like a 'chastity belt' for my mouth ?! (semi-joke)

Yesterday I was feeling tired, fatigued and bored and ate cheese, sour cream and apple juice (all cooked) and now I am feel like absolute crap, waking in the night with headache, bloodshot eyes, more backache - feeling like a sick animal backed into a corner wanting to snarl at any irritation. What an idiot.

I suspect the imbalance of microbes that are flourishing in me may be sending out chemical signals to encourage me to eat things that help them and not me. After all there are many documented cases of microbes and parasites taking control of their hosts behavior to further their own  reproduction.

I will try a fresh green smoothie 'fast' for the next week - surely that will help create an environment where only beneficial microbes flourish, while supporting detox. In the past green smoothies have worked well.

I feel like this RPD change is a one way trip for me - the further down the path I get the less my body can stand having anything at all abnormal (non-RPD) stuffed into it, even in small amounts.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: TylerDurden on October 21, 2012, 02:08:01 am
I also have found that I tolerate non-RPD toxins less and less over the years. The simple fact is that once the body starts getting genuine, high quality rawpalaeo foods, it doesn't feel the need to make that extra effort, any more, to properly digest cooked, processed foods. This results in either poor absorption or  the food takes too long to travel down the digestive tract etc.Plus one gets a hangover effect afterwards sometimes, depending on the type of cooked/processed food ingested etc.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 21, 2012, 06:11:55 am
When going to the toilet this morning I notice that my poos were floating and they contained undigested sunflower seed fragments. I have figured out previously that floating poos are an indication of a micro-flora imbalance, as the microbes create tiny gas bubbles as part of the incomplete digestion of carbohydrate containing foods in my bowels. Therefore from my point of view floating poos = bad and sinking poos = good.

On investigating sunflower seeds on livestrong.com it turns out that they contain as much carbs as protein, so are not suitable as part of the low carb diet I require to regain my natural human superpowers. So therefore I will no longer be consuming any seeds or nuts.

Its time for me to check out the zero carb thread ...

... Ahhh, zero carbs is 100% RAF, so that doesn't fit with my thinking, as I am certain that leaves, stalks, flowers and other low carb wet raw vegetation is very good for me!

So it seems my specific target diet is not listed on this site  ???
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: LePatron7 on October 21, 2012, 06:55:42 am
If you're concerned about your microflora, you could look into the specific carbohydrate diet.

Its real easy to follow. Just eat scd legal foods raw, along with raw meats.

Be strict about it and don't cheat though.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 21, 2012, 07:11:36 am
Hi DaBoss - I just pulled Breaking the Vicious Cycle book from the shelf, and SCD allows way too high amounts of carbs for what I need, judging from recent experience! Maybe after several months of low carb recovery then I could try a RP version of SCD and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: LePatron7 on October 21, 2012, 07:50:28 am
Hi DaBoss - I just pulled Breaking the Vicious Cycle book from the shelf, and SCD allows way too high amounts of carbs for what I need, judging from recent experience! Maybe after several months of low carb recovery then I could try a RP version of SCD and see how it goes.

A lot of people have to go low carb.

When I was high carb cooked scd, I had white stuff on my tongue.

But when I went high carb raw scd the white stuff on my tongue disapeared.

I think something scd doesn't consider is the effect cooked meat has on the gut microbes.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 23, 2012, 05:46:58 pm
I'm just saving some very interesting RPD quotes to return too later...

IMO, there is very little to say about eating an animal diet. For me, the watchwords are Eat enough fat, Eat enough salt, and Eat the whole animal. My idea of a high-carb meal is a dozen oysters.

ALIVE, you can't save anybody who doesn't want to save themselves. Even if it's in your own family. Let them make their own decisions, and let them learn for themselves. I know its hard. But, you can't force feed info to someone who is not listening. Don't worry about them, just worry about you! Hopefully they learn a thing or two from you! That's all you can do. Maybe one of these days they will come around? Everybody is on their own journey. Your journey has taken you here. It's OK if their Journey has a different path. Let them go. Preaching never helps. But, practicing what you preach can change people's perceptions. Keep doing what you're doing! You're setting an example if you know it or not.

Your body craves and needs Raw food! It's designed to run and thrive on Raw food. Look at our society, and tell me we don't have heath issues? If you want change, you have to change! Change only happens, if YOU change you're thinking and actions! When YOU take a step, that's change.

Salt is part of the our diet. I never measure how much salt I use per day. It's always done by taste. I use Himalayan Salt and I buy it by the bag. I never bought into the hype that salt was bad for us. Now, processed salt with all the minerals taken out, then add  back inorganic Iodine. That can't be all that healthy for us. Natural unprocessed Salt is the best option. Very interesting video PaleoPhil. Thanks for posting.

I agree with you on fish. I find it very unsatisfactory as far as curbing my appetite. I tend to eat a lot of it, when I do (which is very rare these days). But, it doesn't satisfy like you said. It digests way too fast for me at least. I find I have the same results with eggs. Poultry, doesn't have any interest with me due to the lack of quality pasture raised meat. Plus, it doesn't have the same nutrient profile as pasture raised red meat. So why bother. I haven't had pork yet. I haven't found any that are true pasture raised (fresh). I know I can find them online. But, I don't know if it's worth the bother to be quite honest with you.
I was a little surprised that you ranked grain finished meat second. I guess that show's how little interest you have with the following choices. I'm sure it would only be an option, if you had a limited supply of grass fed beef. Would that be the same for organ meat's also? I agree with you about keeping  things simple. I'm actually been 95+% Carnivore for going on three month's now. I seem to be getting stronger and stronger so far, and it's kept my appetite in check. I'm not too technical as some of the others on this site with keeping track of percentages. But, my body seems to function better with a high intake of animal fats. I try to get everything as fresh as I can. I'm currently avoiding frozen meats for now. What's your viewpoint on fresh vs. frozen? I read something on the site a about the advantages of fresh meats over frozen. I'm curious on what your intake or views are on the subject.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on October 28, 2012, 04:44:07 pm
I have been rotating meals between grass fed lambs liver, kidneys, heart, chops (with fat & marrow), and fish. I can now eat these straight from the fridge - popping a whole lambs kidney in my mouth is very tender and easy to chew. I ate a whole broccoli to check if it still tasted good - it was very nice and good fun to bite the 'branches' off and chew up. The fish monger never saved any fish offal for me, so I will need try another one. The possum is still hanging in a fridge in the shed, and my son is encouraging me to do something with it since its stinking the place up... It looks kinda slimly, will have to taste it soon!

I like this quote below Löwenherz - since our evolutionary ancestors ate animal foods for hundreds of millions of years, starting before they lived on land, it makes even since that we are built to process fat and fructose processing is a much more recent adaption...
Judging from my own experiences and the reports of countless ketogenic dieters I strongly believe that the ketogenic state is the normal operating mode of human bodies. The advantages over sugar metabolism are overwhelming. But the process of keto adaptation takes time and can be very hard. One of many really fascinating things, for example, is the lack of lactic acid in ketosis. Sporting activities become a completely new experience. Many people suffer from receding gums, caused by grains and fruits. In deep ketosis the gums grow back! Most dentists still believe that this is impossible. Most people on ketogenic diets sleep much better. Levels of concentration are higher, stable blood sugar levels, no spikes, no mood swings, much higher fertility. etc. In short, for me, we have enough evidence that a state of ketosis is very benefical for us.

And yes, there have been a lot of indigenous people over the world who "lived off the fat of the land". What a nice english phrase. Eskimos had caribou fat, some Canadians candle fish fat, Norh American Indians buffalo fat, South American Gauchos beef fat, many Africans elephant fat, Masai dairy fat, Aborigines emu fat etc. They all praised the fats. High fat, low carb means ketosis.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on November 06, 2012, 02:23:46 am
While eating mostly RPD I have still been impulsively eating some modern foods (pickles, peanut butter, cheese, and canned tuna). It seems when at home I sometimes have impulsive eating tendencies, probably to do with childhood and stress from school. I selected these cooked foods because they were low carb, but even in moderate quantities they are enough to make me tired, sleep poorly, and get headaches. If I am tired and rest then I just end up feeling worse - more tired and worse headaches. To help ignore the headaches I have been watching a lot of youtube - it is very interesting to watch The Story of Corn, Supersize Me etc, but the inactivity just makes me more tired.

On the plus side in the weekend I woke up with quite a bit of energy and got into doing housework, since it is good exercise and nice for my wife. Also I am doing well cutting down on anti-depressant use to a tiny amount (1/64 of previously), no smoking of herbs (makes me stupid), almost no alcohol use (makes me tired), and no coffee (makes me anxious). Still sometimes take panadine to get to sleep, so this will be the next to chop out as detox improves. My target is to be Drug Free by December :)

Remembering how exercise is vital to boost circulation, to clear out toxins etc, this morning I got up on waking (around dawn) and went for a run. Keeping HITI in mind I did occasional sprints to get heart and lungs peaking.

My intention is to be 100% RPD, have daily exercise, and keep active throughout the day.

I really want to get to that fantastic state of mind and body induced by RP lifestyle, like I briefly experienced several weeks ago!
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on November 12, 2012, 04:53:08 pm
I went to my first Overeaters Anonymous meeting tonight.
I cried & laughed on hearing people tell their stories about their compulsive eating controlling their lives, and how they have now managed - day by day - to stay clear of their addictions, using the same 12 step program as alcoholics anonymous. There is something very comforting about meeting other people with this condition, and in being open and honest about it.
I have had significant overeating problems at least since my teenage years, and have been very frustrated lately to have the amazing health benefits of this raw paleo diet wiped out by this addiction.
I looking forward to my next OA meeting this Friday and am very keen to follow the program.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: LePatron7 on November 21, 2012, 07:54:10 pm
While eating mostly RPD I have still been impulsively eating some modern foods (pickles, peanut butter, cheese, and canned tuna).

I think your problem is that your gut microbes are craving junk food. When you eat strictly RPD, those microbes get very little nutrition because everything is absorbed so well. So they send out signals to the brain telling you to eat junk food that feeds them.

Something I learned from being on the specific carbohydrate diet for about 8 months is that it isn't a perfect diet. Even after being low carb SCD I still had white stuff on my tongue. So I gave up low carb and started eating more carbs.

But when I started eating strictly (no cheating) raw-SCD the white stuff on my tongue disappeared in about a month.

I've also noticed that going from SCD to raw paleo/raw-SCD, it was an easy transition. Since I already wasn't eating grains, dairy, processed foods, etc., switching from cooked meat to raw meat was easy.

But when I went from a SADiet to raw paleo, I was unable to stick to it, and every night I had to have a cheat meal or I couldn't sleep. Eventually I was able to be fully raw paleo again, but it took 2-3 weeks of transitioning.

My point is, if you're coming from a SADiet, it may be tougher for you to go fully raw. You could try eating mostly raw, and then when you're craving something cooked, having something cooked without additives. Like something SCD-legal.

That way your gut microbes that are causing those cravings slowly die off, but your still getting your temporary fix of cooked food so you satisfy the cravings.

While eating mostly RPD I have still been impulsively eating some modern foods (pickles, peanut butter, cheese, and canned tuna).

You could easily find a decent peanut butter without additives, same thing with canned tuna.

My intention is to be 100% RPD, have daily exercise, and keep active throughout the day.

I really want to get to that fantastic state of mind and body induced by RP lifestyle, like I briefly experienced several weeks ago!

You can do it. Just remember you've been eating a SADiet for many years. It can take some time for your body to get used to strict raw paleo.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on November 22, 2012, 08:50:14 am
Thank you DaBoss88, I appreciate your comments.

This week I am at school camp, and I find it easier to stay on my diet plan when others are around, since I don't want them to catch me cheating  l) I am eating socially acceptable raw food in public, and secretly eating raw meat (like the old ox liver with baby maggots on it I just ate). I quite like showing off eating raw meat in small groups, but feel uncomfortable in large ones. Also I am trying to be more respectful about mainstream health teachings on these matters. It has been really cool to do high rope challenges and sea swimming, plus helping out as much as possible with the kids, cooking, and cleaning up. Its great how the RPD gives long term steady energy, while the carb munchers have to keep eating all the time to try to stabilise their blood sugar!

Overeater anonymous has been very helpful to be open about my long term challenges, and to hear from others how they have been managing their addictions day to day. Listening to others gives a whole new insight into hoe family and friends are affected by our addictions, and how to focus on contribution, rather than the addiction mindset that is all about me. At the last meeting I got to talk and told about my 30 year carb addiction cycles, and the turning points of finding RPD success, and then of compulsively eating and realising that my problem was beyond my control and I needed help. I felt very uncomfortable mentioning raw meat in front of a large group, so in future meetings I think I will just keep that to myself for a while!
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on December 09, 2012, 10:36:57 am
We went to the neighbours last night for dinner and I took some raw beef and lamb to have with the salad and strawberries, plus soaked almonds. My neighbour was very accepting and talked of loving beef tare-tare, blue steak and sushi-mi :)
 
Today for late breakfast have had ox liver, beef, lamb, marrow, cucumber, spinach, celery, & 1/2 a banana. Then got some lovely sunshine for vit D.

Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on January 31, 2013, 07:23:24 am
We have just had an excellent 5 day camp with other families. We were camped under willows and ripe wild plums, beside a small, clear flowing river. The weather was hot and sunny, and to freshen up there was a fabulous deep, fresh swimming hole with a high rock and tree to jump off.

I did well eating raw meats, butter, & coconut oil and it was surprising how little I felt like eating, often not getting hungry until the late afternoon. I felt very strong and loved having a slim, concave tummy. It seemed like there was so much energy to be obtained from the fats that there was little need to eat.

Many of the other parents were very curious about my eating raw meat, and one parent and child even ate some of the raw lamb chop, beef liver, and kina (sea urchin)! The parent had worked at a slaughter house for 20 years and said heaps of workers had got sick when processing pig carcasses when they popped the kidneys.

It was nice to go mountain bike riding around the deserted gravel countryside, through hot hills of dry grass, sheep and cattle, and then find a shady row of perfectly ripe black wild cherry's - small and sweet they quickly stained my hands and mouth.

Coming home I have eaten off plan - at least I chose low carb non-RP foods to minimise the damage (raw bacon, fatty natural yoghurt, cream cheese, quality peanut butter, tomato, greens) but my tummy is telling me it is not happy. So I have taken some psyllium husks with whole sea salt, cider vinegar, and water, and will now try fasting until hungry again - probably sometime tonight or tomorrow.

I still have a lot of meats & fish left over from camp, which were not chilled well, so I will need to decide whether to eat them, make high meat, and/or feed our hens... I'll try smelling them once I'm hungry, as Iguana suggests.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on February 09, 2013, 05:27:31 pm
This weeks diet has been mainly GF lamb shoulder chops, beef liver, & butter, along with indulgences such as coffee, tea, melon, ripe bananas, raw bacon, sour cream, cheese & gherkins. I'm pleased with the results from this diet compared to what I was doing before discovering RPD, my wellbeing has been greatly improved.

Late last year I managed to eat just RAF, only when getting really hungry, for around 2-3 weeks and hit a great period of excellent sleep, energy, and attitude. It was fantastic.

Daily goals: be quite hungry before eating, eat RAF to satisfy that hunger, get sun exposure, exercise.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on February 12, 2013, 05:41:53 am
I have just enjoyed reading AVs book We Want To Live - a very inspiring story.

I am now ready to become fully alive.

It seems that delayed gratification for 2 - 4 weeks is what is needed, focussing on the long term benefits of my individual actions.

Yesterday I ate my first meal at 2pm, but that felt too early so today I am fasting all day, to have a rest from digesting. I will wait until my stomach is growling for food, and then satisfy it with RAF (lamb chop, liver, high meat). I will be interested to discover how little RAF is required to satisfy the hunger.

Although I'm an atheist I am using some christian style thoughts to assist mental healing. I just convert to my atheist religion by replacing God with Good, so I can ask Good to forgive me for past actions and to help me forgive others, being thankful to Good, the Lord of Good etc. In my world view this is a way to communicate with my subconscious and create a focus on good thinking and actions. This improved thinking is helping my marital relationship, and my wife appreciates me sharing with her what is going on in my world and my plan to become alive.

I am eating RAF when hungry, drinking water or salty water when thirsty, keeping active, exercising daily, working diligently, caring for my family, and having some fun.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: l0rdcha0s on February 12, 2013, 06:21:22 am
My family have banned high meat experiments to the shed. The raw meat can stay in the fridge ("what do you mean it gets better with age and I can't put it in the freezer?")

Sorry to necro the first post. I have the same problem. I was dry aging my beef in the second fridge but I was told she didn't like the smell so I'm trying to find places where I can age them properly without upsetting the others in the house. Shed seems interesting. When I first bought it I told her I didn't want it to go in the freezer either.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on February 13, 2013, 03:08:41 pm
Dry aging - that sounds interesting.

Well yesterday I didn't eat all day and my stomach growled at bedtime, but I still didn't feel hungry so didn't eat.
Tonight, after 44 hours of since eating, I started to feel hungry and had some really nice beef - thin slices from a rolled roast with lots of fat on the outside came out like ribbons, some beef liver, fish, and cucumber- nice and juicy. I still felt hungry afterwards, but I want to take things easy so I'll wait and see how I feel in the morning.

I have been thinking about AVs book, where he says some of us are not able to process cooked residues as well as others, and can have sharp crystals of residue form in our bodies. Several years ago I had a live blood analysis and it showed large crystals embedded in macro-phages. The herbalist had not seen this before, and now I wonder if these were the cooked food residues AV mentions.

Another part of AVs book that was especially interesting to me is that he links up coffee and candida as going together...
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: l0rdcha0s on February 14, 2013, 01:56:03 am

Well yesterday I didn't eat all day and my stomach growled at bedtime, but I still didn't feel hungry so didn't eat.
Tonight, after 44 hours of since eating, I started to feel hungry
I've often wondered with some of us almost on a semi-carnivore, carnivore diet whether our bodies would adapt like some of them. Carnivores often go days without eating much, some go weeks. Also goes with something I had recently read that talks about even a 150 lb person with 10% body fat has enough fat on him to survive for a week or two without eating. Food for thought.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on February 16, 2013, 12:12:23 pm
Wow, I have just had a awesome time doing a long trail run in the hills  ;D
Even though I haven't run for years my stamina and energy levels were excellent.

It's now 5pm and I'm starting to think about having a nice bit of fatty beef, liver & fish for 'breakfast'.

My body is looking amazing on RP, and hopefully this plus exercise will clear my brain fog & headaches.

My underarms do smell a bit of fat, so maybe I am still eating a bit much food for my metabolic rate and exercise levels.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on February 22, 2013, 02:46:02 pm
The past week has gone well, and I have managed to become hungry often and eat mainly lamb shoulder chops, fatty beef, and liver, with also some fish, a little coconut oil & high liver. I have cheated a little bit, but only pretty healthy stuff in small amounts (butter, yogurt, raw bacon, peanut butter, some beer). For the last few days I have also had some nice fruit (melon, new season apples, squeezed lemon water) and tonight had some raw broccoli.

I am drinking salty water daily, including some sulphurous volcanic salt, mixed with a little clay and psyllium husks to help detox.

I have been very stressed with difficult financial decisions and it is sometimes hard to sleep. Last night I tried breathing exercises from youtube which seemed to help (start breathing quickly until flooded with oxygen and then slow breathing right down to relax).

Its been satisfying to toilet, with signs of excellent digestion and happy bowels. 
My tongue has been been expelling lots of white goo, which I am scraping off daily.
My skin is going nice and brown with regular sun exposure.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on March 11, 2013, 07:51:05 am
I have finally found a source of GF suet, which the butcher gave me for free : ), so I am adding it to my low carb meals of chopped fatty lamb, liver, fish, broccoli, cucumber and egg, to increase the fat to protein ratio. I gather from previous posts that 50/50 'meat'and fat by volume is a reasonable target (to give ~80% energy from fat). I have also been eating high meat with each meal and taking cold showers in the morning.

Also I have started taking Iodine Plus-2 tablets after reading how important it is from other RPD contributors (iodine 5mg, iodide 7.5mg, selenium 15mcg, B2 15mg).

My body feels very strong, and my mind feels quite weak.

Unfortunately I have been eating some fruit, raw almonds, coffee and yogurt over the last few days, and last week I did cheat on a crap food binge, so still need more focus to really find out if the low carb RP diet is a solution to my condition.

As normal I have been feeling anxious & tired with constant headaches, and lately have slept very poorly (although it was quite nice to be awake during a dream last night when I was flying around above a crowd of people). It is weird that being more tired can make it harder to sleep. Then when I awake feeling not so good I tend to make judgement on how bad I feel, think about some poor choices that contributed to this problem, and dream up ways to escape, like to move to commune, live a nomad life in a camper van, or to find peace in death . But the reality is I have obligations to my family etc so I really need to focus on reality and how I can contribute the best to moving forward. Whether I am in pain or not there are still things that need doing and worthwhile opportunities to pursue.

To improve this situation I need to start exercising more, since I can remember feeling my best when I used to have a lot of exercise, training for multi-sport events and mountain biking. So I need to make a priority to do regular runs and strength exercises. This helped a lot when I was on SMD so it could be even more effective when on RPD. It is just an extra challenge to exercise when tired, but this is something that is really important to push through and wake my system up to get it processing faster.

Also I have got a lot of 'self improvement'  books out of the library, which highlight how important positive affirmations are. So I need to start thinking mainly encouraging thoughts about myself and my situation to focus my mind on what good I can achieve, and how well I can be. The book Happiness in Hard Times has pointers on this: Like yourself; Be flexible; Focus on what you want; Get relaxed with money; Be grateful. My mother gave me the book Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway, which has a lot of affirmation type thinking.

Then there is meditation / mindfulness, which is supposed to be very helpful, so I would like to try that as well and see if I can learn to relax. For some reason my mind seems to be stuck on the 'danger' setting, which for some people would be exciting, but for me is just very tiring.

I suppose I am taking life too seriously, and am scared of making more mistakes, when in reality a lot of things don't matter that much, and more success and health can be obtained when living with a more care free attitude. Anyway time to get back to work!

Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: LePatron7 on March 11, 2013, 08:50:27 am
Also I have got a lot of 'self improvement'  books out of the library, which highlight how important positive affirmations are. So I need to start thinking mainly encouraging thoughts about myself and my situation to focus my mind on what good I can achieve, and how well I can be.

I recommend the book "Essential Elements for Effectiveness - optimal functioning through positive psychology."

It's a very good book. A lot of the things it covers help you be in control of your life, as well as have a positive outlook. Although it covers much more, and I'm only about half way through.

Also, if you're having trouble sticking to a raw diet (and assuming your goal is to not cheat). I recommend modifying your diet to see what works for you. Don't get stuck in forcing yourself to be LC, VLC or ZC. Some people don't do well on it.

First, I recommend trying moderate amounts of carbs, then cutting back till you reach a suitable amount.

Second, if the above doesn't work. Consider eliminating non-SCD legal carbs. Then using only SCD legal carbs, starting at a moderate amount of carbs. Cut back till you reach a suitable amount.

It could be that low carb isn't working for you, it could be that the types of carbs aren't working for you. Heck, you just said that you're NOW finding a source of raw beef fat. It's possible your meals were to low fat.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on March 11, 2013, 10:02:30 am
Thank you for your comments DaBoss.
Yes I have probably been eating too much protein.
On looking through Van's posts I see him mention having a 'meat' portion the size of our palm (I imagine this is meant as a daily ration, and the thickness would be the standard steak / chop thickness) and elsewhere he talks of eating an equal amount of fat as meat.
So that would be less food than I have been eating - I may just be eating too much, which is a habit to fill in time / emotional holes.
I do find low carb raw paleo to be tasty and satisfying for physical hunger.
On reflection I could be more aware of my hunger and the instinctive stop that people have been writing about.
To use food for fuel & repair only, not as an emotional filler!
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: van on March 11, 2013, 01:29:11 pm
the palm of your hand size is one portion, 2-3 times a day,, depending. 
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on March 12, 2013, 02:57:01 pm
Thank you Van for your clarification.

Yesterday I got into some exercise (200 tummy scrunchies, 25 push ups, 12 pullups, monkey bars, 30 minutes sprint/walk/jog) which is help to feel better.

Time to learn to be an optimist!


Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on March 21, 2013, 12:04:36 pm
Dr Patrick McCarthy's book Relax and the accompanying hypnotism MP3 has been very useful for learning optimism.

Track 3 Turning Pessimism into Optimism covers the basics of Learned Optimism and the 3 Ps - when something unwanted happens a pessimistic way of thinking about it is that is was Personal (created by me) Permanent (it always happens) and Pervasive (happens in every situation).

To move over to an Optimistic way of thinking about an unwanted event we need to think that it was caused by someone / something else (not us), that it was a temporary event in time, and that it was caused by a specific set of unusual circumstances.

His example was someone hanging out washing and dropping pegs - the pessimistic view "sigh, I (personal) am always (permanent) dropping things (persistent across all sorts of things)", then the optimistic view "these cheap plastic pegs sometimes slip" (not personal, sometimes not permanent, only plastic pegs, not persistent).

For wanted events the opposite is needed - so when something good happens the optimist thinks that it was because of what they did (personal), that good things are always happening (permanent), and that good things happen in all areas of their life (persistent).

So now I am carefully monitoring my thoughts and re-framing them as required to learn optimism :)

In "Track 2 The Glasgow Bouncer" he talks about how to displace uncomfortable thoughts with better ones. He says that each part of our brain can only think one thing at a time, so if what we are focusing on is distressing then we simply need to replace the thought with a better one (let the bouncer through the useless thought out). He has you link 5 past positive experiences, such as when you felt totally loved, to the fingers on one hand, and 5 great future imaginations to the fingers on the other hand. Then when you detect a negative thought in one of these areas you are supposed to touch the finger to generate the replacement. So far I am taking a simpler approach detecting non-useful thoughts replacing them with useful ones.

"Future books are planned for release in 2013 including how to combat Insomnia and Irritable Bowel Syndrome, how to make childbirth more comfortable and how to help treat infertility."

http://www.huia.co.nz/?pg=107&authorid=343 (http://www.huia.co.nz/?pg=107&authorid=343)
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on August 03, 2013, 12:12:25 pm
I have been enjoying eating RP foods and have had pretty good stamina and energy, but also repeating old bad habits of eating modern foods which have given me dry lips with a huge bloody crack, headaches, sore gums, and make me really irritable! I have been to some therapy sessions which have been helpful to get a better picture of my condition (mal-adaptation plus addiction to modern foods). I am less worked up about feeling crappy now because I understand that it is not my fault that I am different from the 'normal' modern people around me, and that there is a solution - return to the foods that I am adapted to. I have been interested to learn of the problems caused by root canals, as I had one done as a teenager, and when the filling was replaced a few years it stunk really bad inside the tooth. Maybe the bacteria load from this is responsable for some of my problems, and when eating RP my immune system gets strong enough to suppress the bacteria leaking out? I am now really keen to have this tooth replaced and will visit a specialist in a couple of weeks to discuss options. My final therapy session is in a week so I really want to stay on a low carb RPD so I can say that I am actually following my beliefs. Stopping poking smot (as bookittyrun so hilariously put it) turned out to be easy, but with a universe of temptations it has been harder to stay true to RP. Lately I have been enjoying eating a broccoli or quarter of a cabbage with meals. When I tried eating significant amounts of fat my bowels didn't like it, and at the moment I have enough fat on my tummy from eating modern carbs, so I'll wait until I get skinny or hungry before adding more fat. Also have been taking iodine, selenium, zinc, magnesium, & B6 supplements.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on August 16, 2013, 01:11:00 pm
I have found the resolve to really test the low carb rpd, and am on day 5 of eating around 400 - 800 gm meat/offal/fish (1-2 gm protein per kg) and a hunk of cabbage, broccoli and a lemon or two. I will try adding extra fat next week once my fat stores are depleted. Life is still very stressful, so I am hoping this will help me accept things as they are, as van has found. Have also been doing some exercise and would like to get into meditation as raw al does. My under arms are smelling meaty again.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: LePatron7 on August 16, 2013, 09:45:52 pm
I will try adding extra fat next week once my fat stores are depleted.

What kind of fat do you plan to use?
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on August 17, 2013, 04:29:16 am
Beef fat trimmings are the easiest for me to get.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: LePatron7 on August 17, 2013, 10:26:11 pm
Beef fat trimmings are the easiest for me to get.

Beef fat is also the best (imo).
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on August 22, 2013, 04:55:05 pm
Still going good on LCRPD after 12 days. My tummy is really flat, had to get pants tightened by 3 cm. Still more belly fat than nearby so figure can try eating extra  fat next week or so. Still have headaches and trouble sleeping, I seem to have been born with a low stress tolerance. Having faith would be nicer than my thoughts of doubt and worry! I have started meditating and doing Falun dufa qi gong exercises which are helpful. This morning went for a run and jumped in the winter sea which was a great wakeup and brain clear. It would be nice to be more purposeful in life as I don't know what to do with spare time.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: paper_clips43 on August 23, 2013, 04:54:10 am
Consuming high amounts of tryptophan have been known to promote stress.
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/gelatin.shtml (http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/gelatin.shtml)

Possible think about balancing it with equal amounts or more of Glycine. Found in bone broth and Gelatin.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Dr. D on August 23, 2013, 04:57:24 am
How many carbs a day are you consuming now alive?
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on August 23, 2013, 04:04:08 pm
@ Dr D, I'm not sure - today for carbs I had 200 gm liver, 1/4 cabbage, 1 broccoli and a lemon.

@paper clips - thanks for this, I had been including gelitin, but since is was not RP I stopped, but maybe should start again.

Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Dr. D on August 23, 2013, 11:15:42 pm
okay so you are basically "zero" carb, only getting carbs from the animal kingdom. I think that totals about 6g carbs. My sleep quality and overall resilience went up when I got over the "keto-flu." Let us know when/if you start to feel better. Adding more fat than necessary will encourage your body to use it as a fuel and adapt quicker. I would suggest to put it in soon.
Title: Re: Living RP Adventures
Post by: Alive on September 04, 2013, 05:35:40 am
Have been going good on zc, having 2 meals a day of offal fish meat eggs and gelatin followed with greens. Started to add extra fat but then tried some kiwifruit and they gave me the runs so back to zc again. The zc has made my body look amazing, slim and strong. Really need to get better at relaxing, so meditation and keeping active needs to be priority. Looking into depression it is clear that we are not adapted to modern life and that is the cause. Solutions from tedx are exercise, omega 3, socialising, good sleep, positive thinking, and sunshine. Also sauna so going to have a sauna today.