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General Discussion / Looking for techniques to produce Bee Brood
« on: May 16, 2014, 05:47:39 am »
I am currently attending a beekeeping course, and while I won't ask the instructor about the topic (since I need to avoid scaring him and everyone in the attendance), I am interested in learning techniques that would allow me to produce bee brood, perhaps in larger quantities than normal, in some of the hives that I will take care of, for my own consumption.

Could anyone point me to links / documents about bee brood specific knowledge, or better, talk about his/her own experience?


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Off Topic / Re: Scientific Information About Supplements
« on: March 16, 2014, 07:16:26 am »
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This is pretty much what I was avoiding this thread becoming. Everyone throwing in their 2 cents without any actual information to support it. I get the general consensus is that supplements are bad - what I was hoping for was information from studies, doctors, etc. saying why supplements are bad.

And sorry, but it seems like everyone here is also trying to make you gently realize that the scientific proofs you are looking for won't be able to tell you more than what detailed holistic observations would reveal. I also am a fan of scientific papers but I nonetheless realize that the very core of academic research is flawed by the assumptions it *must* make in order to reduce the infinite number of variables that exist in  nature.

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Off Topic / Re: Scientific Information About Supplements
« on: March 16, 2014, 06:12:30 am »
Of course the use supplements can have an effect on one's condition. Before taking them though, it is usually a good idea to ask ourselves whether they can be found as-is in nature or not... Since most of them are the result of rather heavy human processing (heating, boiling, drying, concentrating, mixing, coloring, etc.) I tend to think they are not acceptable in the long term. I actually consider them almost the same as conventional medicine pills. This said, I could consider consuming some, in specific situations. For example, I could see myself consuming some Vitamin D if I were living in a place where I would not see the sun for more than a month... because in this situation the supplement would perhaps be the easiest way to receive something equivalent to the natural amount of sunlight required to be healthy.

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General Discussion / Re: Any way to keep / dry meat without a fridge?
« on: March 06, 2014, 11:40:58 pm »
Yep, this is why I'll keep you posted in case I manage to build something!

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General Discussion / Re: Any way to keep / dry meat without a fridge?
« on: March 06, 2014, 05:38:51 pm »
Yes, eveheart and nummi, that was my idea... Thanks to your link, nummi, I actually now remembered that this cooling system probably worked well because of the refrigeration effect due to evaporation. So I am not sure it would work so well in a hole in the ground...

Putting a container straight into the water would also be a possibility, but the water is about 400m from the house and  walking that much to go to the fridge is not something very "cool", even if I could accept the idea that I would start having to "hunt" for my meat everytime I need to get some ;)

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General Discussion / Re: Any way to keep / dry meat without a fridge?
« on: March 06, 2014, 08:20:40 am »
OK thanks van, what I like in the idea of burying is that the earth always has a fresher temperature, so in some way it could be considered as a natural fridge. I have already read about non-powered fridges based on an outer box containing a smaller one, the two being separated by sand or a similar material, that is kept humid / wet. Seems like "cool" stuff ;) 

Alright, so I am a bit left to doing my own experiments regarding the burying technique... If I manage to invent a system that works, or even that doesn't, I will try to post the results on this forum.

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General Discussion / Re: Any way to keep / dry meat without a fridge?
« on: March 06, 2014, 07:18:43 am »
Thanks eveheart, very informative, I may try such a technique in the future!

Hey everyone, that's a good call about electricity: the reason why I won't have a fridge is actually that I won't have electricity for a while... So that keeps quite a few options out...

Fortunately the place where I'll be is quite ventilated, so an option would be to build a fly-proof box with a fine mesh.

@Iguana: is a fine mesh avoiding any kind of bug? I mean, there is no way any non-fly maggot or other tiny meat-eating bug could enter through the mesh?

Still awaiting some instructions about the burying technique - which is opposite in some way to the ventilated one, so I guess the results must be quite far apart...

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General Discussion / Re: Wait... so does honey contain antinutriment too?!?!
« on: March 06, 2014, 07:11:20 am »
*Any* kind of food may be toxic. Everything really depends on whether we consume it according to our true needs or not!

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General Discussion / Re: Any way to keep / dry meat without a fridge?
« on: March 06, 2014, 05:03:22 am »
Thank you everyone. Did not see the replies until now 'cause I thought that as the creator of a new topic, I would be notified automatically of replies... well, apparently not.

OK, back to the meat drying I guess I should have mentioned I live in the southern hemisphere, so that means that in my present situation it is a must for me to avoid the bugs eating more of the meat than I would :) The temperature here barely goes below the twenties during the night, so the only "hanging" system that would be practical is Iguana's one I believe (thanks for the good pics Iguana).

@van: I am really interested in knowing more about the burying technique: how would that work? I understand the temperature inside the earth would be "basement like", but would you need to use a water/bug-proof container? And without air, wouldn't the meat putrefy really quick? And also what makes you say that dried fats are not optimal? The pork fat I used to keep for up to a month or more in my fridge was still tasting delicious after that much time!

@TylerDurden: the dehydrator you mentioned, is it like Iguana's system with a fan or an actual commercial one? I would really like to avoid heating the meat more than room temperature if possible...




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General Discussion / Any way to keep / dry meat without a fridge?
« on: March 05, 2014, 04:40:18 am »
For a few months I'll be living without a fridge, and in order to keep getting some animal proteins and fat I am looking for advice on how to keep meat without a fridge, knowing that I usually get up to 8 kg at a time...

This means the method should allow me to keep the meat for at least 3 to 4 weeks...

Conditions: no salt, and nothing that would be contrary to instincto principles...

This said, I am open to any idea and suggestion... best of course would be to benefit from real world advice that you guys have tried!

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: GCB:Eating meat regularly is harmful to health
« on: March 01, 2014, 08:16:28 am »
Folks, we *are* dirt!

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: GCB:Eating meat regularly is harmful to health
« on: March 01, 2014, 05:21:17 am »
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wild foods are superior.

we should be tied to our natural environment and dirt, literally! In every aspect. That is health

our instincts can be spoiled. And will have to be "straightened out" and exercised into their natural, healhy state  by our conscious decisions that (hopefully) are closer to the reality, truth and nature

Nice words Inger, thank you. I believe you are on the right path. Don't attempt drawing too many conclusions for others  though, since we are all one, but we are not all equal! What works for you, surely works, but it does not mean it would apply to others. I believe your principles, though, are the right ones!

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: GCB:Eating meat regularly is harmful to health
« on: February 28, 2014, 07:13:01 pm »
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I don’t think anyone claims that, Micelte. Perfection doesn't belong to this world.
Exactly. This is why I liked GCB's latest definition (in the text you translated), when he was saying that instinctotherapy is nothing else than a human experiment. As thinking humans we like to follow patterns, we want to have rules, because it's just easier for our mind to be in control. But health is the opposite: the more we try to control it using our thoughts instead of our feelings, the more we fail. And the more we do research about it, the more we understand that it's useless. For example, the fact that fecal transplants are now under the spotlight, contradicting so many previous theories, is puzzling to most health seekers. They are even about to wake up Beschamp from his coffin ;)

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The environment is only part of the whole, it’s not everything unless you include us in the environment.
It wasn't clear, but I was including us in the environment. I did not choose the word thinking of it's French meaning but to convey a holistic sense. Of course we are part of the environment, since our very self is a full ecosystem - some would even say a universe in itself.

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Hot Topics / Re: Zero Carb and VLC/Ketogenic - A Lethal Recipe for Disaster
« on: February 28, 2014, 07:37:59 am »
Quote from Inger from an older thread:

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I do fishhead-smoothie from fatty fishheads, raw. Just cut the head into pieces with a scissor and add water and blend until smooth in a mixer. Drink. Isn't too delicious but I hold my nose. You can add the guts too and liver and all. Very healthy.

I did a smoothie from prefrozen sardines yesterday but I think that was not good idea. I got the runs tonight/morning and cramping in my stomach. I guess the fatty fish might have gone a bit rancid? Cause they do - even if frozen. Tasted great to me but sardines do have strong and salty taste so it might have covered the rancidness? I ate the meat of the sardines pure and raw yesterday without anything and it tasted great to me? Strange. Or it was plain too much fat.. It is so long since I had such stomach distress, it almost never happends to me. Or it could have been the raw prefrozen scallops that I had too, yesterday? No idea. Anyways, I just ate a huge breakfast with elkmeat, sauerkraut and coconutoil and I am fine now.
I guess I will stay away from the sardines a while though.. It might be something added to prefrozen seafood, that I don't know of.. stay nothing on the package though. But who knows!

I would by whole mackerel always. Then you get the roe and fishmilk and liver and all! So good for you. I use to take the guts out the same day as I buy the fish and then they hold fine a few days in the fridge. I do smoothie from the heads and guts and from the file ts I do sashimi or tartar or anything delicious! I always eat them raw. Fatty fish I never cook, does not sit well in my stomach. But non fatty is fine gently cooked - for me at least.

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: GCB:Eating meat regularly is harmful to health
« on: February 28, 2014, 07:32:52 am »
I feel the truth probably is that it is a joke to believe one can actually be instincto. GCB's theories are great as principles, but I feel very few people on earth can actually claim being true instinctos.

Why? Because the ENVIRONMENT is everything. I believe that our sense of smell and taste about a particular food can be greatly affected and bias our choices when we haven't lived as naturally as we should have.

Example: you haven't slept all night, and or you have been under huge stress, worrying like crazy: can you still trust your senses? Don't you think your instinct is still instinctive? At the opposite, imagine you've had a great workout and are now truely hungry: your senses are so sharp when this happens, and you are so far from thinking about what you "should be" eating that there is no question: your instinct is very pure.

If we were all living as our ancesters did, sure, our senses would guide us better... but the very fact that we are users of the RPD forum probably means we worry more than what we should to have unbiased senses, hence no one here could actually claim being a true instincto.

Anyone sees my point?

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Hot Topics / Re: Zero Carb and VLC/Ketogenic - A Lethal Recipe for Disaster
« on: February 28, 2014, 03:12:46 am »
In the next post, you are the devil by the way, Inger :D

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Hot Topics / Re: Zero Carb and VLC/Ketogenic - A Lethal Recipe for Disaster
« on: February 28, 2014, 03:12:16 am »
Great Inger, thanks for sharing. I am actually not criticizing low carbers here - just publishing what I found and what may be of interest to everyone...

In the end, anyways, it's the FEELINGS which matter, not the science ;)

Take care

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Hot Topics / Re: Zero Carb and VLC/Ketogenic - A Lethal Recipe for Disaster
« on: February 28, 2014, 02:47:00 am »
OK, and to go back to the subject (sorry my previous post was a little off...), here is an interesting selected extract from http://humanfoodproject.com/sorry-low-carbers-your-microbiome-is-just-not-that-into-you/:

A bit of a paradox in all of this is the increased likelihood that a low carb microbial community will most certainly lead to increased gut permeability – a well-known phenomenon whereby microbial parts (lipopolysaccharides, which leads to metabolic endotoxemia) and whole microbes themselves (bacteremia) leak from the intestinal track into the blood, leading to low-grade inflammation that is at the root of metabolic diseases such as type 2 diabetes, obesity and heart disease. So it is a paradox that a leaky gut that can be triggered from a low carb (high fat) diet – and a possible increase in gram-negative bacteria and a reduction in healthy bacteria like Bifidobacterium – doesn’t result in weight gain as demonstrated in study after study in mice and humans. Weird.

I hope people do not take this as some kind of attack on low carb diets – couldn’t be farther from the truth. There is NO AGENDA. Again, NO AGENDA. (It’s worth noting I consume a high fat, high protein, high fiber diet). Just wanted to point out some obvious concerns (maybe unfounded) and that if we get a large enough sample of low carb folks in American Gut, we might be able to provide some interesting insight – or not. Who knows, maybe low carb folks have super healthy gut microbiota (whatever that is).

So to my low carb brothers and sisters out there, try and eat a little more fibrous material if you can – diversity matters –  and help your gut bugs help you. It’s what evolution intended.

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Hot Topics / Re: Zero Carb and VLC/Ketogenic - A Lethal Recipe for Disaster
« on: February 28, 2014, 02:37:19 am »
Thank you for the links. It's quite amazing to see that scientists are now starting to reveal to the world the importance of having straight contact and ingest microbes in order to gain health.

Here is an extract of another blog post from the same website (http://humanfoodproject.com/please-pass-microbes/) about Hadza's people litteraly eating the bacteria from their dead Impala:

Before the two Hadza men I was with jumped in to help skin and gut the Impala, I quickly took swabs of each of their hands (and 1 hour after, 3 hours after, and so on) to assess how the skin (palm) microbiota change throughout the day/week of a typical Hadza. As they slowly and methodically dismembered the animal, they carefully placed the stomach and its still steaming contents on the fleshy side of the recently removed hide. In a separate area, they piled the fatty internal organs (which men are only allowed to eat by the way). Once the animal had been processed more or less, I was amazed to see all three men take a handful of the partially digested plant material from the recently removed stomach to scrub off the copious amounts of blood that now covered their hands and foreman’s. This was followed by a final “cleaning” with dry grass for good measure.

While I was fascinated by the microbe-laden stomach contents being used as hand scrubber – presumably transferring an extraordinary diversity of microbes from the Impala gut to the hands of the Hadza – I was not prepared for what they did next. Once they had cleaned out – by hand – the contents of the stomach (“cleaned” is a generous word), they carved pieces of the stomach into bite-sized chunks and consumed it sushi-style. By which I mean they didn’t cook it or attempt to kill or eliminate the microbes from the gut of the Impala in anyway. And if this unprecedented transfer of microbes from the skin, blood, and stomach of another mammal wasn’t enough, they then turned their attention to the colon of the Impala.

After removing the poo pellets (which we collect samples of as well), they tossed the tubular colon onto a hastily built fire. However, it only sat on the fire for a minute at best and clearly not long enough to terminate the menagerie of invisible microbes clinging to the inside wall of the colon. They proceeded to cut the colon into chunks and to eat more or less raw.


As a conclusion, the future probably belongs to the bush, city dwellers good luck! ;)

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: GCB:Eating meat regularly is harmful to health
« on: February 27, 2014, 07:51:44 pm »
This thread is very interesting. Thanks all for the comments. I'd like to emphasize a point that I think has not been given as much importance as it should have: physical activity. I strongly believe that when this parameter is missing in ones life, one cannot actually be instincto. As simple as that. The instinct won't work, at least perfectly, when one does not use his or her body as it should be used. Don't use it = Lose it. A truth that we should all be accepting. Add to this the fact that lots of people spend so many hours sitting down in front of a screen all day, and you have the best recipe for a total health collapse. As a conclusion, if you want to be sure you are picking and eating the right food, and then that you are feeling the stop for it, make sure you have created an energy need before your meals.

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Instincto / Anopsology / Re: GCB:Eating meat regularly is harmful to health
« on: February 21, 2014, 02:56:07 am »
Not really sure whether GCB's new claims are questioning some of the fundamental principles of instincto-nutrition (doesn't meat often taste good to the point that we tend to overeat it? - I mean, even for wild one!) - I guess he would have to answer that himself...

But what I am starting to be convinced of, through my own experience, and which seems to be an evolution of anopsology, is that as humans, who are fundamentally more evolved than animals, the mental state in which we are at the time we eat is influencing *more* what the body absorbs and uses, than the food itself.

At this stage, I am still agreeing with most of the instincto principles, but I am nearly sure that humans have the potential to somehow control their instinct, that is, sometimes: benefit from a food that does not taste great, or, create some damage from a food that tastes delicious.

Mind over matter... Stuff that animals can't do but that we can.

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General Discussion / Re: hanging meat in your fridge
« on: January 31, 2014, 06:34:13 pm »
Fantastic pictures Iguana, I can't wait for the explanations, and I am now holding many other questions about preparing and keeping animal parts. Seems like everyone thinks that new section of the forum is a great idea, so could someone open it please?

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General Discussion / Re: hanging meat in your fridge
« on: January 31, 2014, 08:05:06 am »
Thanks eveheart, so before going further here let's wait for more votes... You are very right, one of the most important skill a raw paleo dieter has to acquire is the knowledge and practice of how to keep meat and fish!

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General Discussion / Re: hanging meat in your fridge
« on: January 31, 2014, 06:59:47 am »
Slightly off-topic: for the last 6 months I have also been hanging meat and fish on hooks in my fridge and realized how great it is, as it allows me to keep the meat much longer (more than a month for sure). Now, I'd like to try out drying my meat outside the fridge, perhaps in the sun, probably in a ventilated area, without any additive (like salt, etc.). Has anyone tried to do this? Since the discussion may be quite interesting, shall we open a new thread for it, perhaps?

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Instincto wannabe introduces himself
« on: January 30, 2014, 06:14:59 am »
Si tu lis l'anglais, l'equivalent de "Manger Vrai" est disponible sur le web a l'adresse suivante:

http://www.reocities.com/HotSprings/7627/ggindex.html

(traduction de GCB lui-meme apparemment)

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