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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Eating Animals vs Plants
« on: July 03, 2010, 09:33:45 am »
Nutrients can be essential or nonessential.  Essential nutrients are ones that cannot be manufactured by the body and must come from diet.

We know that you are what you eat, and this is the argument for eating animals.  We are animals therefore the argument goes we should eat animals as we are are going to be made out of them.  If we were to eat grass we would become grass - and if you look at raw vegans that's exactly what they look like - like leaves.

Now here is the problem.  Since we are the animals we eat, and they are us, it follows that whatever nutrients are essential to us are also essential to them - that is they can not manufacture them either.  They can't manufacture the nutrients that we need and the nutrients that we eat them for !  

Instead ALL of the essential nutrients in those animals we eat have come form PLANTS.  The animals have only acted as CONTAINERS for them.  They have added NOTHING to the nutrition in the plants they consumed that our own bodies could not manufacture.

And now we look for grass fed beef and omega 3 eggs - why ?  If we already know precisely WHAT plants the animals must be fed in order to absorb the nutrients that we need in them - WHY NOT EAT THOSE PLANTS DIRECTLY ?

Goodsamaritan explained to me that i should buy only Omega 3 eggs because they are made by hens who were fed flax seeds.  That's great.  But i can just drink flax seed oil directly.

Why is it acceptable to use animals to process and package the nutrients in plants but not acceptable to use a Vita-Mix to do the same ?

With beef or eggs i have to take the farmer's word for what went into that animal.  With a Vita-Mix i put the ingredients in MYSELF.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Splain this to me Lucy
« on: July 03, 2010, 01:25:20 am »
This question is for people on the weight loss diet.

Let's make 2 assumptions:

1 - you are more intelligent than a cow
2 - you have more money and freedom than a cow

Then your diet should be better than that of a cow.  Then your own adipose tissue should contain higher quality fat than adipose tissue of a cow.

By eating the adipose tissue of cows ( or any other animals ) you are telling your body - keep that high quality fat you have where it is - in form of a huge belly.  Use this low quality fat instead.

So instead of being healthy and lean as you would be if you skipped that fat in your diet you are instructing your body to be fat and less healthy.

Now explain to me - where is the logic in this ?

PS:  yes this is a troll.  unfortunately you still have to answer :)

this is my first raw animal food.  i went out to trader joes and got some organic plus omega 3 eggs.

i blend them into my usual protein shake.  instead of having 2.0 scoops of protein in the shake i now have 0.7 to 1.0 scoops of protein and 1 to 2 raw eggs in it.  so i am keeping overall calories similar but now my shake has more fat and less protein.

but perhaps more importantly now my diet has animal fat, because before ALL the fat in my diet was plant.

so the actual contents of the shake are:

* chia seeds ( about an ounce ) // omega 3
* hemp seeds ( about two ounces ) // omega 3 and 6
* some inexpensive nuts or seeds // calories, fat
* a scoop of whey protein // ~ 20 grams protein worth
* organic raw egg // fat, vitamins
* cacao powder
* splenda

yeah i know splenda is not exactly for purists ;) but IMO compared to sugar it is the lesser evil.  at least splenda does not cause a narcotic like reaction in my body like sugar does.  and the shake comes out to a delicious chocolate taste and texture - it tastes just like really fatty chocolate ice cream that was allowed to melt.

i have to say though that if Omega 3 is what you're after Chia seeds are TWENTY PERCENT ( 20% ) OMEGA 3 BY WEIGHT while an "omega 3 egg" only has 0.3 gram of omega 3.  if you love to mega-dose nutrients as i do you should really consider it ;)

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Nuts vs Seeds ?
« on: June 21, 2010, 07:41:14 pm »
I find that on the average nuts taste better to me than seeds, except Hemp Seeds which i love.

But anyway, which is healthier ?  Can a generalization be made ?

at Whole Foods Hemp Seeds are $12 / pound.  most nuts at whole foods are $10 / pound which is almost as much.  if Hemp Seeds really are that much healthier it would appear that i should be mega-dosing them ?  Or is there such a thing as too much Omega-3 ?

I have no intention of "jumping in with both feet" into this deal, i want to sort of tip toe into it.  I am happy with my current diet ( which consists mostly nuts and seeds ) but there is always some room for improvement. 

my diet is already LOADED with protein, both vegetable and animal.  in a day i probably consume about 60 grams of vegetable protein from nuts and seeds plus another 200 grams of animal protein from whey protein powder ( 4 - 5 shakes per day with 1.5 - 2 scoops each ).

my diet also has TONS of fat in it, but all of this fat ( and i mean 100% ) is currently from vegetable sources ( nuts, seeds and olive oil ).  i would like to add some high-quality animal fat to the diet.  by high-quality i mean both raw and with a good profile of fatty acids.

i am thinking of what foods of what i have eaten i the past could pass off as raw paleo - caviar comes to mind.  what do you think about it ?

another thing that comes to mind is that bright red salmon stuff.  but is it actually raw?  or did they do something to it ?

also i have to say both the caviar and salmon that i have tasted in the past seemed salty - is that inherent to it or did they add salt to preserve it ?

thanks for any input !

Welcoming Committee / what i don't understand
« on: June 18, 2010, 06:51:48 pm »
i understand the point of eating raw animals - that makes perfect sense to me

what i don't understand is - isn't it dangerous ?  aren't there parasites and stuff ?

i am already close to 100% raw but the fear of parasites in raw meat has driven me to a vegetarian diet.  and i am a protein junkie - a guy that used to eat about 2 pounds of chicken per day.

but now i understand that cooking is whack so i can't grill chicken like i used to.  at the same time i am afraid of eating meat raw.

basically right now i am on 5 huge whey protein shakes a day - that satisfies my urge for huge amounts of animal protein without actually eating raw meat.  but people are pointing out to me that half of my diet is ultra-processed which contradicts my own beliefs that processing food is evil.

so what can i do ?  i would like to at least add raw fish to the diet but i am scared.  i keep seeing that image in my mind of that japanese guys' brain eaten by worms - the guy who liked sushi.

can somebody explain the deal to me ?

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