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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Body by Science - 12 min workout a week
« on: April 17, 2013, 08:50:56 am »
i think i have been misunderstood. My legs werent in pain. I could walk perfectly fine, they just felt like they were still healing.
Oh totally different. I understand what you mean. That's perfectly normal and expected on a true HIT routine which is what the workout you posted seemed most similar too. Like I said I've heard of one of my friends clients only seeing him once a month due to her long recovery period (she is older). She's not in pain but you can still feel fatigue in the muscles. For example my legs aren't experiencing DOMS but it takes more effort to walk up the stairs because the all of the muscle fibers aren't fully recovered and ready to be worked out again.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Body by Science - 12 min workout a week
« on: April 14, 2013, 12:09:53 pm »
yeah but iv just started high intesnsity and have yet to do a leg workout on this program. THis long lasting soreness was from a particularly intense squat session with both feet together rather than shuodler width.
I'm not sure. I never do squats/leg press closer than shoulder width apart. That distance is sufficient for hitting all parts of the quadriceps. I think the "both feet together" scenario places too much emphasis on the vastus lateralis rather than the whole muscle group. At that angle you could've pulled or strained muscle or tendons as well. Without real testing it might be hard to pin point the exact cause of the increased soreness.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Body by Science - 12 min workout a week
« on: April 13, 2013, 02:48:01 pm »
haha awesome lordchaos, you know I was just giving you sht, but much respect on pushing that much weight.
Haha I know.

As for the recovery time. It is possible for muscles to be fatigued and need to recover for that long. As far as DOMS I've never heard of it lasting 3 weeks. A change in the duration of DOMS could be due to your recent change in training routines. The program that you posted, when done correctly, is at a much higher intensity than the bodyweight workout you were doing (which was most likely moderate intensity). The deeper strength inroading process caused by higher intensity workouts would certainly increase the duration of recovery for the muscle but that is in terms of fatiguability not DOMS.

In my experience, when I first began working out my muscles would take a long time being sore and gradually they recovered faster as my fitness improved. They again went through the same process when I adapted to a higher intensity workout like you switched to.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Body by Science - 12 min workout a week
« on: April 11, 2013, 12:05:04 am »
lordchaos in my imagination, when your avatar pans down, you have really tiny little legs.............hhhahah sorry, but you are lookin ripped dude, why cant I find someone to get strong wit uuuggh!
Haha I used to neglect legs a lot like a good majority of people. I'd make excuses to miss leg day or whatever. Haven't done that in a while. I've kind of become a masochist in that respect, leg day is probably the most painful day in the gym but I love it. I wouldn't say I have huge legs but when I was practicing traditional bodybuilding they were strong.

I attached a picture. That was me in 2011. I forget how much weight I was pushing but the max I've leg pressed was 1500 pounds for 6 reps. I still think I have small legs (and small muslces in general, kind of get that from looking on the huge steroid guys in bodybuilding).

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Body by Science - 12 min workout a week
« on: April 09, 2013, 11:06:02 am »
what clients? are you a personal trainer?
Yes I am. Mostly middle-aged adults. A few younger people.

Off Topic / Re: Extraterrestrial races
« on: March 13, 2013, 10:16:46 pm »
I think a lot of our thinking is human-centric as well. Like another poster said above in terms of scifi geeks and biological compatibility. A lot of mainstream thinking is well in order for a planet to have life it has to be a certain temperature (the goldilocks effect), it has to have water, oxygen, carbon-based lifeforms etc. We think this way because it is what we would need. Perhaps other alien lifeforms are completely beyond our understanding. Perhaps don't need water, survive at super extreme temperatures and the like. I always thought it was a little egocentric to think that the alien life would have to be like life on earth. But that is most people's understanding of what life needs to exist (but it may only go for our planet).

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Excercise frequency
« on: March 13, 2013, 12:22:00 pm »
I second Eric. Body by Science has kind of become the new bible of HIT. Any of Mike Mentzer's books are a good place to start (although they are a little out of date). Searching for Body by Science in Amazon leads to a few other books that cover the topic of proper HIT techniques. Ideally you're looking any literature that talks of slow repetitions and brief, intense exercise. Great for strength increases, nothing like taking an exercise to complete failure to where you can't even move the weight an inch to incite your muscles to get stronger.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Excercise frequency
« on: March 09, 2013, 10:54:33 am »
A good workout frequency is the time necessary for your muscles to fully recover from the previous workout. It may not be detrimental to workout before that but it will hinder growth and strength since you are not giving your body proper time to recover enough. This is especially true in the true HIT style of training. The higher the intensity of the workout, the more inroading you place upon the muscle, the longer recovery time you might need. Some people need as little as a week for recovery, some can need as much as a month.

I spend about 15-20 minutes training. 1-2 minutes on the machine, 1 set to complete failure (I cannot positively perform the exercise, positive being the first third of the exercise movement). I'll do 4-6 exercises. Sometimes it will take longer depending on whether I'm waiting for someone to finish with what I want but generally you want to accomplish it with as little rest as possible in between exercises. I've made amazing gains switching from "traditional bodybuilding routines" to this true HIT.

Keep in mind the stronger/bigger your muscles get the longer they will take to recover. The frequency will have to get more spread out. You will not lose strength/hypertrophy that fast. But diet will take an even more important role unlike exercise routines that can offset diet by performing them nearly every day (which I am in no way advocating). As for Jessica's comments I agree with Eric I don't consider them exercise but they are part of an active lifestyle.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: working out while slightly sore
« on: March 08, 2013, 03:37:46 am »
Is this bad? Im thinking that its good to completely master body weight excercises before doing any weights. Perhaps I should break my bodyweight excercises into sections like people who lift weights do?
It doesn't matter whether you do body weight or weights or machines. Your body responds to the stress you place on it. All it knows is there is a significant resistance against it that must be overcome. If you can fatigue your muscles with bodyweight exercises it would be a similar stimulus as doing it with the others. The trouble comes when you are unable to properly fatigue your muscles with bodyweight exercises due to increased strength. If the body weight exercises are working for you then keep doing them.

There is no need to split up the exercises by target muscles. If you are someone that recovers fast then I'd say to try it and see how your time/reps are. Everyone has a slightly different recovery period. Some are really long and some need very little. A friend of mine told me of a client he had that saw him once a month because that was how long it took her to recover from the previous workout. Recently I've seen this in myself. I had been training 3x a week for a good period but 2 weeks ago I realized my TUL wasn't increasing as much as I was hoping (my progress was slowing). I decided to consolidate day 1 and three, cut out some unnecessary exercises to keep it short and switch to a 2 day/week routine. My time is much better these past two weeks. The stronger you get the more recovery time your muscles are going to need.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: working out while slightly sore
« on: March 07, 2013, 10:37:38 pm »
Each workout creates an inroad into the muscles strength. Working out before your muscle is fully recovered, while not detrimental, will only further deepen the inroad and your strength gains will most likely stall. It's like starting at 100 units of strength and after a workout you're at 70 units. You could workout at 80 or 90 units since you've recovered a bit but you'd rather be at 100 again, and if you wait long enough you might reach 110 units of strength (an increase in the weight or TUL that you use). Dr. Doug McGuff explains this inroad process really well in his book "Body by Science".

When trying to increase strength, it's always best to err on the side of waiting longer. Rest and sleep are what help muscles recover and grow, you won't lose strength for taking an extra day to rest.

General Discussion / Re: Horrific eating of raw meat in public
« on: March 07, 2013, 11:31:27 am »
Iv eaten slabs of raw meat with my bare hands on the train several times out of necessity (not enough time in the day). THis included much gnawing and tearing with my teeth sometimes. Needless to say I got many weird looks and people moving away from me. I found it hilarious.

My friends want me to start doing freakshows on the train in middle of the night while everyone is coming home drunk for fun and money. Maybe ill record and post it one day.
That sounds really fun. It would provide them with a great story when they wake up the next day.

Made this the first time today. Came out great. I feel I might have used a little too much onion. Mine also weren't red, maybe that makes a difference. Any other spices you can use besides just salt and pepper? I've seen some sights with garlic and nutmeg.

Hot Topics / Re: Paleo-Libertarian Connection
« on: March 06, 2013, 12:51:35 pm »
I think the reason for more paleo dieters leaning towards libertarian/anarchism is the ideologies behind the movement (at least in the states). Many other parties are more inclined to tell you what you are and aren't allowed to eat while these two allow you the freedom to choose more. While others are fighting against raw milk, healthier forms of food, no GMO labeling. These parties are more for allowing this things and giving you the freedom of choice to do what you want. After all, what you put in your mouth is none of my business.

General Discussion / Re: more evidence
« on: March 04, 2013, 11:39:55 pm »
I read this as well. I'm glad he did this to show that cooking changes the nature of fats and cholesterol but it might give average readers more of a reason to hate/blame fat/cholesterol for heart disease which is not the case. They would have very little effect without the inflammation and tearing or arterial walls caused by chronic insulin levels due to a high carbohydrate diet. He might have done a service for raw versus cooked but people might still blame the wrong suspects for the problem. He should do a subsequent study of why the LDL/calcium builds up on the arterial wall to do it justice.

Also, like the fact that he implicates poly-unsaturated fats.

General Discussion / Raw crab meat
« on: March 02, 2013, 04:49:00 am »
I was trying to find information on raw crab meat. Whether it's safe to eat or not. What should I look for in the meat, can I eat it right out of the crab (after catching)? Any info would be helpful.

General Discussion / Re: Raw beef fat
« on: February 28, 2013, 09:05:04 am »
Yeah the one I just tried the other day was very chalky. I'll have to look for better sources.

General Discussion / Re: Raw beef fat
« on: February 28, 2013, 07:42:54 am »
Is there a special way of eating the raw beef fat? I have tried bigger portions of it right off the meat and it tasted kind of funny. It wasn't as delicious as the actual meat? Is there some kind of process you do to it or is it just an acquired taste that comes with time?

General Discussion / Re: Horrific eating of raw meat in public
« on: February 28, 2013, 07:30:34 am »
I'll have to keep this in mind for this year. Nothing beats real blood. It might be a conversation starter as well to the joys of raw food eating.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: raw food builds muscle (advertisement)
« on: February 28, 2013, 05:54:39 am »
I purchased this. It's basically interviews and a few introductions on raw food eating, a video on a simple meal, and radio interviews with Josh and Randy. Josh has said that they are working on a book. I came to them through looking at proper exercise training and it led me to this as well. Josh is a good example of bodybuilding with proper exercise and nutrition as you often have to wade through the bullshit of the fitness industry before you get to the real facts. I'll see if I can copy some of the stuff to share.

Hot Topics / Re: Almond butter
« on: February 28, 2013, 05:06:52 am »
If you live on long island I would invest in a salt water fishing pole
Yeah I've thought about that. Just not sure how safe the waters around the island are.

Hot Topics / Re: Almond butter
« on: February 28, 2013, 12:45:49 am »
Well from what I was getting out here, the farms seem to be a little cheaper. They're currently out of stock so they don't have a price on the marrow to compare but they seem to be about 2 dollars cheaper a pound then the meat I was getting here. Just gotta pay shipping on the order though.

Hot Topics / Re: Almond butter
« on: February 28, 2013, 12:23:15 am »
True I'm looking around. It's hard being on Long Island. I just joined a CSA that delivers from PA once a week from two different farms. They have a whole array of different animals. Just have to find where my budget is and get some variety. Still haven't ate any raw chicken though. Next order I'll have to pick some up and eventually try it.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: What to eat and what to not eat?
« on: February 28, 2013, 12:15:37 am »
lol what's crazy about that? it's actually usually 2-3 oz. but nonetheless whats crazy about that lol
I believe he was calling it crazy because meat (particularly red meat) is high in creatine by itself and would do the same thing as the supplement you're taking if eaten before a workout. I used to take a bunch of supplements (bought into the whole bodybuilding needs). Preworkouts, intraworkouts, post-workouts, you name it. Eventually they started to dwindle down to a few things. Than some natural BCAA's and biochemistry precursors. The supplements felt great but I realized they might also inflate my strength on the exercises and I'd rather know what I can actually lift compared to the boost that some of them give.

Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Getting muscles on RPD
« on: February 27, 2013, 11:55:05 pm »
The arbitrary amount of protein is a joke. If you're eating a RPD you will most likely hit a good protein amount that is sufficient to gaining muscle while keeping fat accumulation down. Most meals I have give me at least 80-100g of protein, 2x a day and you're set. Don't go for a number, if you're eating RPD you're getting what your body needs or it would give you biofeedback of what it's lacking.

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