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General Discussion / Where do you get all the organic grass fed meat?
« on: October 11, 2011, 03:34:46 am »
Bison over here in Michigan is expensive.


A lot of meat that Whole Foods has is like 15 bucks per pound. Its outrageous!

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I think usually the problem with fruitarianism is people don't balance and sometime their food is not absorbed, thus creating malnutrition. Of course, if you have undigested food in your stool and your eating 4 tomatoes, your digestive system is moving too quick as though the food is not being absorbed.

There are different ways to do the raw food vegan diet. You could eat only fruit. You could eat nuts and seeds and greens, but less fruit. Or you could eat more vegetables and less fruit and nuts and seeds.

Plus when people restrict themselves too much, they end up with deficiencies.



Me being on the cooked paleo diet was ok, but I felt like I was getting too sleepy all the time and couldn't concentrate. I felt like I needed sleep during the day and night. My goals with diet are to get to the point where I could improve my concentration.

I might get back to paleo in the future, but I am trying out raw frugivorism(with small amounts of cooked meat) to see if it works for me, and if it doesn't, I'll probably have to come here and eat raw meat.

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No I am not, but I am a fan of the liferegenerator(Dan the Man, Dan McDonald). He doesn't seem malnourished to me, at least at this point.

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Ah I have seen many fruitarians who have had success but most of them are 80 to 90 percent raw. I have seen a few bad ones too. On the meat eater side, I have seen many ones have success, and I have seen few bad ones(there was one particular case where Durianriders was criticizing his friend for having parasites and eating raw meat)


Well, even apes are not 100% vegans. I have never seen a frugivore ape not include meat in their diet.
Even gorillas, who are herbivore, will include small amounts of meat in their diet.
In fact, the frugivore diet does include some raw meat, just in smaller amounts. A 100% vegan diet doesn't even exist for apes, because if apes went without meat for a while, they would become malnourished too :)

There is no such thing as a frugivore diet without small amounts of meat or insects. But regardless of whether monkeys eat small amounts of meat, they are are still classified as frugivores, because the majority of their diet is fruit.




Even in the vegan world, mixing fats and sugar is bad. Having both experience on a cooked paleo diet and a semi raw vegan diet, I can say that when you are eating a lot of meat or fatty foods, then you must limit carbs, but if you are fruitarian, then you must limit fats. Mixing the both of them is a mistake.

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Hot Topics / Do you guys totally dismiss veganism as a healthy lifestyle?
« on: October 10, 2011, 08:41:03 pm »
I know that all of you haven't had great experiences with raw fruitarianism, but do you totally think of it as an unhealthy lifestyle?

What do you say for the people who have had success on a raw fruitarian lifestyle?

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General Discussion / Does raw paleo work in the long run?
« on: October 10, 2011, 08:20:38 pm »
How many of you have been doing paleo for 10 years or longer?


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Hot Topics / Why are raw vegans so weak?
« on: October 10, 2011, 12:09:56 pm »
Durianrider appears like a little weakling without any muscle, so do the rest.


Without any protein, the body will eventually emaciate itself just like every little raw vegan's body has done.

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