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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2015, 09:45:06 am »
Trump is no less an asshole, business failure, or racist than he was the last 2 times he ran for President. Fuck Trump. He's gone bankrupt HOW many times now? And never pays his own debts. He just defaults. He's a fraudster and a troll. Electing him would he like electing the town crackhead.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2015, 10:40:29 am »
Oh please, we don't need the Dalai Lama in the white house blessing the world with his holiness. What do you even think politics is about?

We need someone who will fight for our interests on the global scale and win. We're already getting screwed by Mexico and China in trade deals. Do you really think someone like Vladimir Putin will have any more respect for Bernie boy than his embarrassing relationship with Obama? Donald Trump is the only person in the running who has a proven track record of acting successfully under that kind of pressure. He has failed in the past, but check the profile of most billionaires and I don't think you'll find many on his level who came through unscuffed.

Even if it was a ruse and he was jus' tryna' trickya’ for le kekkeroni; it's not like anyone else stands a chance at providing what Trump can bring to the table, nor is it a given that any of the other candidates(all career politicians) are any more trustworthy.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2015, 11:58:49 am »
I like Trump.  He is nothing like Paul but he also does not have a chance.  Too polarizing for general elections.  Same goes for Sanders and Paul Jr.

Whoever wins Florida gets the whole thing.  I think Rubio has the highest chances of taking Florida.

If Sanders looses primary (and I think he will) and enters the race as independent Dems got no chance, no matter who wins Rep primary.

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Hillary Clinton Calls Donald Trump a RACIST… And Trump FIRES Back in an EPIC WAY!

"    Failing candidate Hillary Clinton, who is desperately trying to hold on to her lead in the democratic primary against Bernie Sanders, is knowingly putting out lies about my stance on illegal immigration. I said “Mexico is sending”— I’m not knocking immigration or immigrants, but rather am very critical of the country of Mexico for sending us people that they don’t want. Likewise I am very critical of illegal immigration and the tremendous problems including crime, which it causes.

    She is desperate, she is sad, and she is obviously very nervous when she has to revert to issues that have already been settled given the absolute accuracy of my statement. She speaks about “my tone” and that’s the problem with our country’s leaders. They are more worried about tone than results! It’s not about being nice— it’s about being competent.

    Hillary should spend more time producing her illegally hidden emails and less time trying to obfuscate a statement by me that is totally clear and obviously very much accepted by the public as true. I am honored, however, that she is attacking me, instead of Jeb Bush. Obviously she knows that JEB is no longer her real competition. The last person she wants to face is Donald Trump."


Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-clinton-calls-donald-trump-a-racist-and-trump-fires-back-in-an-epic-way/#ixzz3g0SLC4t9

What I foreigner can see is that Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush are on the same team.  The powers that be want a Clinton vs Bush show down because both of them are on the same team.  That is how TPTB want this election to come down to.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2015, 09:26:29 am »
Not sure why you are interested in Trump.
When it comes to foreign policy he is a hawk.

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Few respect weakness. Ultimately we have to deal with hostile nations in the only language they know: unshrinking conviction and the military power to back it up if need be. There and in that order are America’s two greatest assets in foreign affairs.

Foreigners are usually rooting for softies like Paul and Sanders.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2015, 09:37:10 am »
I gave you my selfish reason above.  With a Trump President he will kick the Chinese out of the Spratley Islands and surrounding waters they erroneously claim for themselves, depriving the rest of the ASEAN nations.

Philippines is a defacto USA colony.  We would rather have the USA than China as master.

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On a selfish note, the Philippines needs the USA to be strong because we are in the sphere of influence of the USA.  Chinese imperialism is a real threat to us.  They have already taken over the islands in the Spratleys and more and made a ridiculous 9 dash line that says all the ocean there is theirs... that's why it is called the "South China Sea"... so the past year they implemented a naval blockade preventing our tiny fishermen from fishing in those islands.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2015, 11:41:43 am »
I've been saying that for years.  China is building aircraft carriers with one purpose only - to grab its neighbors land.

Trump would have been awesome to counter China.  Unfortunately it is highly unlikely he will get nominated.
I think Rubio or Walker has better chances.  I like their foreign policy as well.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2015, 02:08:10 pm »
ys, You keep saying things like "unfortunately it is highly unlikely that he will be nominated." The problem with this sort of mentality is that it sounds like you're making some sort of compromise with the old fashioned 'keep the party in office' mentality. I kind of get where you're coming from, but I don't buy it as Rubio and Walker are pretty much irrelevant, and I wouldn't underestimate Donald Trump. If he's going out, it would be the way of AV.

Maybe you watch television and they give the others more attention? As far as the internet is concerned it's Trump vs Sanders.

Hillary Clinton Calls Donald Trump a RACIST… And Trump FIRES Back in an EPIC WAY!

Back to that point: Sanders and Clinton just went to visit a group called "La Raza" whose founder has openly advocated murdering white "gringo babies" and conquering the southwestern United States. Long story short, Bernie Sanders licked the salt off their balls.

What I foreigner can see is that Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush are on the same team.  The powers that be want a Clinton vs Bush show down because both of them are on the same team.  That is how TPTB want this election to come down to.

Agreed, but that would be the most boring event in history. Nobody really believes in either of them. The ol' tow the party line people might support Jeb, and the untouchables might support Hillary, but expect people to be waking up left and right if that happens.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2015, 02:21:25 pm »
Maybe you watch television and they give the others more attention? As far as the internet is concerned it's Trump vs Sanders.

Maybe TV is still more powerful than the internet?
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2015, 02:36:24 pm »
On an individual basis, those who watch television are still mostly buying into the scheduled programming.

TV consumers tend to have a belief system of inevitability with little or no expectation of volatility, many are becoming disillusioned.

At some point self-curated subscription via the internet will prevail, we might already be there. It's hard to tell. How much of middle America is on the internet? How many elders are on the web? How many are already fully engulfed? Very interesting questions.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2015, 09:33:19 pm »
At some point self-curated subscription via the internet will prevail, we might already be there. It's hard to tell. How much of middle America is on the internet? How many elders are on the web? How many are already fully engulfed? Very interesting questions.

Yes, VERY interesting! Consider that, even now, internet videos that "go viral" are featured on the television news, and there are daily shows that feature videos that are trending on youtube.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2015, 06:07:23 am »
Has anyone considered the possibility that Trump is merely a distraction and his early on mainstream publicity is just a ploy to lure people away from supporting other mainstream candidates , such as Rand Paul who are not supported by the plutocrats. Then come next year hocus pocus trump loses the primary and stands down, but still manages to take enough of the fringe votes to allow a Jeb Bush to win the nomination, then of course Jeb will be the ringer against hillary.

Despite all the freedom of expression the internet gives us, and its potential for empowerment of the lower classes, as an open source information matrix, I am still skeptical as to whether or not it is "yet" able to allow the will of the people to prevail and topple the existing political power structures. Instead it is very well possible that the "Beast" is adapting itself to the new media, and still works to control the minds of the people in other ways... using even the most progressive millennial bloggers as its unwitting minions...or unleashing an ocean of distractive information which has no relevance to the true reality at hand...or by creating false prophets which claim to be the alternative, when in fact they are only mislead hacks that lack vision, and are only able to foggily mirror the dualities perpetrated by ever pervasive human ignorance... 

These are interesting times indeed, so much knowledge is so freely spread, yet we must not be so arrogant as to take everything being projected by both the mainstream, or the inter-web as gospel... Truth and change must come from within  and be projected from the heart of a living humanity, its not something to be seen emanating from ether a tv  nor a computer screen. If you let these electronic media apparatuses dictate the focus of your mind, then either way you chose to get your information, a part of you will become entrapped in the matrix, and you will loose touch with your own ability to enact change within the real world, as one who is fully alive and awakened.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2015, 01:09:54 pm »
We've always had "distraction" candidates. "Miss Piggy for President!" It's part of the American sense of humor. "Bert and Ernie for President!" We love to make fun of everything, even our highest office. "Pat Paulsen for President!" Complete freedom of speech allows us to be playfully irreverent. "Snoopy for President!" Sometimes we get ultra-rich candidates with sensible-sounding platforms, but we're still being playful. "Ross Perot for President!" And some ultra-rich presidential candidates have platforms that could only be implemented by a dictator who disbands our Congress and our Courts. "Donald Trump for President!"

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2015, 05:13:00 am »
Interesting point, eve.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2015, 08:33:35 am »
From what Ive been seeing and reading. The current POTUS is already a dictator.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2015, 08:47:50 am »
From what Ive been seeing and reading. The current POTUS is already a dictator.


You lived through Ferdinand Marcos. You ought to know better than to post bullshit like this.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2015, 09:47:48 am »
You lived through Ferdinand Marcos. You ought to know better than to post bullshit like this.

Exactly! Yes I know better and I'm saying it is so.

It's called constructive criticism.

I dont post bullshit. I post truth.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2015, 10:35:23 am »
From what Ive been seeing and reading. The current POTUS is already a dictator.


Exactly what do you see the Supreme Court "dictating" outside of its function to interpret the constitutionality of laws? We have layer upon layer of courts in our local, county, state, and federal judicial systems. They all do the "judicial thing" and nothing else. They rule on disputed issues, the way courts are supposed to. They listen to all the factors in each case, inasmuch as those facts are presented, and they wade through passionate and often contradictory rhetoric to try to reach some semblance of judicial wisdom. They are no more or less infallible than any other human endeavor, hence, they have supporters and detractors. I see you are a detractor, but I beseech you to make some sense instead of making outlandish and unfounded fantasies about what someone else told you is going on.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2015, 11:47:16 am »
eveheart, you're talking about SCOTUS when even in your quote it says POTUS. Remember that guy? The one who makes public comment on criminals' funerals, blaming the white people and police, causing tremendous instability within their communities.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2015, 12:26:15 pm »
eveheart, you're talking about SCOTUS when even in your quote it says POTUS. Remember that guy? The one who makes public comment on criminals' funerals, blaming the white people and police, causing tremendous instability within their communities.

Yes, sorry for my hasty reading mistake.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2015, 01:29:26 pm »
No other candidate is worth supporting, Trump has become mainstream by sheer force of his own will.

We need strength, some of you aren't grasping the severity of this situation. Edwin's home will be captured by the Chinese if our country is not strong enough to protect the Philippines. They are already laughing at us. On our end, our southern border is non-existent and being breached by a people who want to conquer the southwest and kill "gringo babies," all while Mexico and China are given trade deals at a cost to the American economy.

Fortunately many are waking up, let me remind you, Donald Trump is still ahead in the polls.



You lived through Ferdinand Marcos. You ought to know better than to post bullshit like this.

Exactly! Yes I know better and I'm saying it is so.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2015, 04:52:20 am »
Well, at least everything was spelled correctly in the previous post.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2015, 10:10:14 am »
Trump is a protectionist, warmongering national-socialist (http://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism). The good news is, he has no chance of winning. The bad news is, somebody worse than him will win.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2015, 11:49:39 am »
Isnt being protectionist good?

Give Americans jobs?
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2015, 12:25:27 pm »
Give Americans jobs?

Isn't that an oversimplification of the role of the president?
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