What are the ideal foods to introduce after lactation

[norawnofun]

Which should be the first foods to be introduced to babies/toddlers? I know they should be soft and mashed, but what types of foods should one give? What do the HG introduce first? Raw milk, cheese, Raw beef (ground)? Or should you start with mashed veggies, like sweet potatoes, potatoes, tomatoes, zucchini? Raw (obviously not sweet potatoes and potatoes) or cooked? Would raw meats be overkill since some bacteria might do more harm than good for a non-fully developed immune system?

[TylerDurden]

 I only know what I was partially fed on, which was mashed carrots before full weaning. Unfortunately, pasteurised buffalo milk was apparently a (forced) staple  to a great extent after weaning. My recommendation would be to feed as much RVAF diet food, including raw ground meats right at the start, but only after weaning. Imo, HG tribes routinely breastfed their babies for a full 2 years after birth - while this was partially for contraceptive effect, it also helped boost the infant immune-system etc.  Also, another key aspect is that the baby already gets used to the taste of foods in the womb - if the pregnant mother already is eating cooked junk foods that won't help much. In my own case, I  was helped a bit by the fact that my mother often carelessly left out pieces of fresh, raw kidney which I would duly steal and swallow - plus my father had a preference for raw aged cheeses and raw oysters.

[norawnofun]

I remember the HG 2 years breastfeeding advice from you and it makes sense. I think beef tartare would be a good start. I also read about the taste of the womb, I think that these preferences may apply for some time, but I don´t think much into older age. It then depends on what you feed your child for the following years. I remember a poster on the carnivore fb forum saying that it was a tradition to eat raw beef balls in his family, and until this day he likes them. How does your father play a role? Did your mum eat aged cheeses and raw oysters when she was pregnant because of him? And as a consequence you liked them up until a certain age?

[TylerDurden]

No, she did not feed on raw oysters or raw aged cheeses during pregnancy. Mostly, it was raw wild trout from Kashmiri lakes during that time, apparently. The point was that because my father recommended some raw animal foods during my childhood, I was better able to switch to RVAF foods by the age of 30. Another point I should add is that pressure to eat processed, cooked foods comes shortly after weaning, what with synthetic baby foods, McDonald's etc. I know many relatives who ate McDonald's crap during childhood and, since then, could never overcome their addiction to junk foods.

[thehadezb]

I would say liver, meat or fat. Every food is difficult to digest for babies. The mother has to help the baby. It could be by chewing, pounding, blending, grinding, etc., depends on the babies capabilities.

[Sol^Sa]

Imo whatever the child chooses/desires ofcourse the quality is important besides that, nothing processed also provide variety and let choose, observe. I would try to trust the Childs instincts. Simple. Sometimes Babies refuse low quality mothers milk (too f***** ironic and degenerative), alternatives would be goat/sheep. My sister for example as a kid would steal raw butter out of the fridge and eat it just like that sometimes. Processed foods/chemicals and sickness maybe ruins an adults instincts for Food. I for example lost my sense of smell when I was in Boarding school and eating their "healthy" meals while supplementing with McDonald's Burgers. I got it Back for one day last year but it lasted only one day...

[norawnofun]

I would somewhat agree to that. But you need to be careful. If the child gets a taste of carbs, even if it´s raw fruit, that instinct can turn into an addiction. And once you have a baby that was fed on cereal and pasteurized dairy, it can be hard to get it off that. Early adaption to animal foods will keep the instict alive, but if a child has lost its natural insticnt due to eating processed carb garbage, it can be hard to reverse that addiction.

[Sol^Sa]

Agreed. I meant unprocessed, natural (wild) seasonal animal foods at least as the base. Even when eating processed carbs, refined flour as a kid/teeanager. I would refuse/protest when my mother/sisters prepared "cakes" and **** for food. My desire/instincts for sweets was low as my digestion was normal back then, I wouldn't overeat on those or carbs. Still better to stay away from them. The real damage starts with long-term exposure to processed foods out of the store/McDonald's/vaccines/chemical exposure. White flour might be bad but the others are probably way more harmful. Isolated nutrients probably generally not a smart thing. Add to that accumulated soil depletion over hundreds/thousands of years due to agriculture and we have the modern hell/misery we are living in. The "fertile" crescent used to be fertile "lol". Maybe rename to "degenerate crescent" nothing fertile about it right now imo.