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Offline smokeyquartz

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Using Diet to Heal
« on: July 27, 2021, 08:29:23 am »
Reposting this again because when I finally hit "submit" the "DNS could not be reached" error message came up.  Hope I'm not wasting my time twice!

I've been here a while but have not followed the advice completely.  Right now my major problems are serious skin disorder (wounds take a very long time to heal if at all, I also have dry, flaky patches on my face that are noticeable even with makeup), anhedonia (lack of pleasure/motivation), weight gain, and muscle weakness/fatigue. 

I know the major thing I need to do to reverse this is stop eating sugar/caffeine.  A major part of my lack of motivation, I believe, is how I feel trapped in my life.  I can see myself doing the same thing forever, and nothing will ever change, and then I die.  It doesn't make me sad or cry; I'm not depressed.  But I just can't get any enjoyment out of my life as it is, and I don't have any motivation to try to "improve" myself for a life that doesn't please me.  My life is pretty much a pointless existence and my only "pleasure" lately is through consumption of goods (shopping), food (chocolate/lattes), and entertainment.  It's like an endless rewind of the same stuff over and over.  My life is "The Morning Half-Life Blues" by Marge Piercy.  I'm not really alive.

I don't know if I can do totally raw carnivore for healing for multiple reasons.  A major reason is that it's not possible socially.  I've gotten over my fears of parasites since reading some of Aajonus's ideas about how they can only be harmful in a body that doesn't eat a regenerative diet (they eat dead tissue, which is regenerated by the raw diet), and I do incorporate raw meat into my diet now.  I love raw chicken with honey and spices.  Even if I had the self-discipline to eat this way at all times, it would be extremely difficult socially.  I have to hide my raw meat eating habit now as it is because I do not live alone.  For this reason, I've thought of eating a more plant-based raw diet but still incorporating the raw meat.  I've been reading the authors Carol Alt (who eats all raw, including eggs, fish, and meat but a lot of produce) and Natalia Rose (she only eats raw produce, but cooked eggs and fish as well).  I think this would be best for me. 

I don't know how to get my motivation in order to be disciplined.  Otherwise, I'm a very responsible person, and the "anhedonia" doesn't affect my work life at all - I get everything done, on time or ahead of time.  I don't know where to start because a major reason for my indulgences in these bad dietary habits (sugar/caffeine) is simply to escape from my life.  There's a major emotional component; I feel trapped.  Many times I simply drive to get physically away from where I am.  Even if I broke free, I would hardly know what to do with myself, lol. 

Just sharing thoughts with, hopefully, people who can understand.


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Re: Using Diet to Heal
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2021, 03:00:31 pm »
The truth is that if you aren't willing to eat raw meat, you won't change your anything about your health and feel stuck in this negative cycle forever.

For me it was easier, all the foods that you ''cheat'' with actually make me feel terrible. I had to start eating raw meat just to feel alive/OK, that makes it easier.

A tip I can give is just to make sure you eat 200g of raw meat a day. As long as you sneak that in there every day you will be making progress, though slower than going all raw. Also, try to avoid the sweets and addicting stuff by eating raw meat instead when you get the urge for those addictive foods.

If you truly want to heal quickly/efficiently without eating a lot of raw meat every day, making a good ''high meat'' is the way to go. A properly fermented high meat (3/4 months old, fridge fermented, aired every 2 days, I recommend chicken) is so powerful that merely eating 1 piece every 3 or 4 days yields a ton of benefits for your body. Still, it requires dedication by buying a small mini fridge and taking care of the ferment, and I don't know anything about your living situation so it is possible that this interferes with your social life.

My point is, you have to get real and commit to this diet. If that takes telling your surroundings about it, then that is a step you must take (we've all been there). Once you actually start eating it you will realise that it is easy; eat the right food and you will feel better, there is nothing else to it.

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Re: Using Diet to Heal
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2021, 06:08:13 am »
Is it ok to eat chicken gallbladder?  Are there any benefits from it?  I just bought some chicken livers, and noticed something weird with one of them.  It looks just like in this picture: https://jen-elise.blogspot.com/2010/04/chicken-gallbladder-surprise.html 

I'm finding the liver itself already extremely bitter, and I don't know if I can even finish it.

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2021, 03:25:05 pm »
It is okay, but the gallbladders are what is making the chicken livers very bitter  ;D

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2021, 05:48:53 pm »
For me social aspect is part of the healing process, and it's about choice. Am I afraid to stand out? To maybe to eat alone, to -  sometimes - sacrifices communal dinner/community life for true health?
I eat often alone, not always, but that's because I realise the positive aspects of my raw paleo nutrition are stronger than the feeling of sharing a meal together with others. Especially in the long run.
There is only one person around here who really knows about my raw meat habits, this is a very conservative place where veganism has become huge, and bakeries the biggest dealers lol...
Outside of this place I know some people who are more open to raw paleo/raw meat, so actually I know more people outside of my hometown that would be more into it.
So the point it to not be afraid to do what you need to do for promoting health, be selfish in a good way. In the end, it's about caring for your self. Do you want sacrifice yourself for the sake of what others think about you?

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2021, 10:19:27 pm »
I found an Italian butcher shop near me that has all kinds of "weird stuff."  lol.  And most of it is supposed to be antibiotic-free, etc.

I got chicken chicken hearts, but I can only eat a couple at a time.  Like this morning, I tried to eat 10 of them, but when trying to eat the 4th one, I gagged on it.  So, I am ashamed to say I did end up cooking the others so I could get them down and not waste them.  I don't find the taste of chicken hearts to be bad; it is pretty mild, but for some reason I just gagged on it.  The chicken liver that I ate previously was not from this butcher (and the one that I had that tasted bad actually wasn't attached to the gallbladder at all, it just tasted bad all on its own); so maybe chicken livers from this butcher will be better.

I continue to eat raw chicken with honey and spices, and I think that instinctively right now I am drawn to really mild-tasting raw foods like white meats.  I don't know if I should just continue to follow my instincts or should I try to "push" myself past them in order to get better.  For instance, should I have forced myself to eat the rest of the chicken hearts raw even if I was gagging?  I don't know.

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2021, 03:33:47 pm »
Maybe you like raw red meat better than white meat?

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2021, 05:38:14 am »
So an update on the chicken livers.  This time I got Bell & Evans Air-Chilled chicken livers from a local supermarket.  They are fed grain but no antibiotics.  Well, they are great.  I can't eat a whole lot of them at once, but the taste is just on the other side of mild.  It's the first liver that I actually want to eat it raw and I don't gag or grimace!  You can tell the difference between these livers and the others that I got.  These chicken livers are a dark red color and the others that tasted so bitter were pale and pink-yellow looking.  So, if you see Bell & Evans chicken livers, don't be afraid to buy and eat them.  They are good!  I wish all the meat could be this good quality.

Hopefully I can find beef liver that tastes this good one day.  I always find beef liver extremely bitter, and I've even drove over a half-hour to a farm to get grass-fed organic beef liver.  One thing I find odd about grass-fed beef liver is that, in addition to the bitterness, it has a "medicinal" taste to it, if that makes sense (the ones I've tasted anyway)...not pleasant.

I'm still finding it hard to eat 100% raw because of the social difficulty.  I have to eat alone and hide my meals.  But I know it's also an excuse that I use in order to not change, because change is both painful and exciting at once.  When one thing changes, everything must change... I really believe that is true.  If you are unhealthy and you become healthy, all the energy in your life must change because you are essentially a "new" person.  This unspoken energy is everywhere; people pick up on each other's moods all the time and it affects everything (at least for me, maybe that is why I eat bad food a lot in order to numb myself to not pick up on things).  So, if you have an energy mis-match to your environment after you heal yourself, you can't stay in that same environment.  The energy has to match, just like heat transference in physics. I know maybe this sounds weird/absurd to people, but I know it is true.  So, if I don't match my environment anymore, then what will I do?  Must leave the things that make life secure; this is the reason underneath, I think.

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Re: Using Diet to Heal
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2021, 01:09:23 am »
I eat beefliver at the moment only when it is high. I get mine fresh, but eating it fresh does not really do much for me. I do not really like the taste, but i think that is due to the quality. These cows are taking proper care of on a smallish farm, and live a pretty natural live. But not 100% grassfed and living outside at all times.

I also buy (via the post, so frozen) beefliver 100% grassfed, always outdoors, no hormones/injections/anything. It is from Scottish highlander cows, with all the hairs i guess they do not mind the cold Dutch winter weather. That liver however tastes like dark chocolate, amazing. So i have learned to never 'swear off' any food based on trying it once from one source. There really can be a world of difference. I enjoy trying food from as many different places and pick out the best. The modern hunter haha

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2021, 06:06:35 am »
Thanks MarkR and everyone.  Dark-chocolate liver sounds good, lol.

Chicken update - I'm wanting to eat less chicken now.  I liked the taste before, but now what I like most is the raw chicken marrow and chicken blood inside the bones.  It has a spicy taste to it, like the spices I use.  So, I really want whatever has that taste to it.

I think I am going through a detox, as they say here, because today I don't feel so great.  But, when I try to eat 100% raw, I eat a lot less and I think I'm not getting enough calories. 

Today I ate some ground beef (grass fed) from the butcher.  But it was previously frozen.  It has more of the spice taste to it than the chicken, but a lot of red meat still has a kind of anemic taste and is not really bloody enough. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2021, 09:09:40 am »
What I ate today... some raw beef (left over from yesterday), supermarket cooked shrimp (it was pink not gray like the uncooked kind, but still cold), raw bone marrow with raw honey, and, my cheats - DD frozen matcha latte and a kit kat bar.  I think the latte cravings are for the creamy dairy in them.  The raw marrow is really creamy when it gets room temperature.  It's so good.  But I still have a hard time eating adequate calories when eating raw meat.

I'm worried right now.  So worried about whether I will be forced to take the jabb in order to keep my job.  I guess I could decide to be fired from my job for not taking it and preserve my health, which is already bad to begin with.  I actually have a problem that is under control through medication but I haven't specifically mentioned it here.  People who are on this medication have children with birth defects if they take it during pregnancy.  But it keeps my condition under control, to the point that I don't even realize I have it most of the time.  Some people who have gone off the medication have had their condition return after one or two years, even worse than previously.  I am afraid of how the jabb will make me deteriorate, maybe make my condition worse than ever.  So scared.  But what are my choices?  If I am fired, then what will I do?  I can't get another job because then every employer is going to make the jabb a condition for employment, and most of the other jobs will pay less than the one that I have.  It would have to majorly overhaul my life in order to not be forced to have this against my will - become homeless or something.  I hate Byden.  He is a terrorist thug.  With his speech, he has basically said to all Americans, "It's your money or your life."  If we give up our life (take the jabb) then we can keep our money (job).  If we keep our life (not take jabb), then we must give him the money (give up our job). Just like a thug in a dark alley.  He is despicable.  It should never come to the point where some greedy idiot in DC makes a decision concerning my private health. 

I want to be free, live without so many possessions anymore so that I don't have to worry about "losing" things.  Just get rid of possessions because they hold you back.  The big one that ties everyone to their jobs in the US is the "health benefits" (as if anyone has actually benefited from them in the past 4 decades... we just get sicker and sicker here in the US).  If you have no insurance, you better own nothing at all because the "heroes" in the healthcare field must be paid greatly for their good deeds... it's not done out of the goodness of their hearts.

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2021, 06:05:16 pm »
It took me a long time (and i think im still not really used to it) to figure out portion size when eating raw. My plate sometimes looks very empty, but still my body tells me im done with food. Since raw meat is so easy on the body i do not check in with my stomach usually. Because my stomach will always feel 'empty'. When im really done with eating is when i do not feel like eating anymore. The food really start to loose flavor in my experience and eating starts to feel like something im doing against my will. I also never feel the typical SAD hunger anymore. In my case 'hunger' feels more like becoming slow in the brain and sleepy/weak in the body. I personally many times do not feel like eating at all, I still do it because im trying to gain some weight/fat. But im not sure whether it is really smart to go against what my body tells me.

Kitkat bar, haha, i used to love those. Haven't tried them in probably 2 years. I doubt they will still be as tasty as they once were. Never have any craving for any of that stuff anymore.

The Vax situation is f*cked. I work in the Netherlands for a big tech company, so i think it will be a matter of time before they also start with mandatory Vax. I have saved up a lot of money over my last 5 years of working so i have some buffer. My work is very relaxed and i get by with doing very little and getting payed well, although i do not like the job at all. I think i will stay for now, but i will eventually have to make a switch to a more meaningful job, with or without the forcing of the vax. Is your boss already harassing you about the Vax? All the media is fearmongering, to ruin your life basically. And your worrying might at the moment not be needed, worrying about the future is even more pointless, who knows what will happen maybe your boss/company will not agree with Biden and also not mandate anything. It would be better to spend your energy in this moment to constructively think about your options. I'm for instance, already doing as much homesteading as possible (i would like to buy some more land one day). Learning the skills and technics for growing food, learning how to sew, preserve food etc etc. These things keep me busy, i learn stuff and im not spending time engaging in the fear mongering of the media. If you know which changes you want to make in your live anyway, start with them now :-). For you, maybe you can have a look at where the conditions seem better in the US? I hear there are quite some states that do not go along as hard as some other states. Maybe it is time to move?

I think the vax will at best not do you any harm, but i really doubt it. I cannot be good for your health. Taking any kind of pill is not good for you health i would say. It might help with some symptoms, but your health will always deteriorate slowly due to not fixing the cause of the symptoms and slow poisoning due to chemicals. I would take my changes with 'health benefits' and not worry about that. Unfortunately in the Netherlands it is mandatory to have health insurance. So i 'have' to throw away 80 euros (that is the cheapest i can find, but of course it gets higher every year) per month on it.

 

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