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Raw supermarket meat
« on: December 01, 2009, 01:37:43 pm »
Last night I was feeling really congested in the sinus and throat, in a way beyond normal. I thought it might have been from smoking the night before; after I ate some raw honey it went away and today I was ok. Later on today, I had half a pound of chuck eye from the supermarket, not organic. Immediately after and still now after several hours I'm feeling the same horrible throat and sinus congestion and realized that actually last night I started to feel the same after eating the same kind of meat. It might be the toxic substances they inject into non organic cows? It really dries the throat and sinus. Or maybe is this a normal reaction?
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 02:17:43 pm »
    I wonder.  I bought organic chicken rather than at a health food store, one time at a supermarket.  It tasted disgusting, like detergent or something.  I have a sensitive tongue and nose.  I couldn't eat it, thank goodness.  My cats wouldn't touch it either.  I wondered how cooked meat eaters could eat this?  I think it may not only be the spices they use, but the cooking itself may melt off the fat they are so scared of.  Fat absorbs any toxins around.  Supermarket air and their kitchens are full of soaps and cleaning solvents.   
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 02:25:48 pm »
Detergent is the word. That's the after taste. I'm gonna have to buy the organic chicken they sell at the supermarket, but I'm not used to chicken, more normally I eat red meat. Well just in the meantime while I get my venison on Friday. Is raw organic chicken good by itself? or is it better to marinate it?
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 02:56:43 pm »
    Organic chicken may be raised on organic grain diet or even organic soy.  Free range can be safer, better if labeled pasture raised.  A lot of people prefer eating raw chicken marinated.  I prefer the taste and texture un-marinated.  I like it plain or with some (raw) extra fat and sometimes a little unheated honey.  Enjoy your venison too!   
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 06:04:39 pm »
Like RawZi said, even organic chicken is usually raised on 100% grains diet, and so rawists who are particularly sensitive to grains(coeliacs etc. etc.) can get an allergy/food-intolerance to grain-fed meats as a result.
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 08:44:05 pm »
Like RawZi said, even organic chicken is usually raised on 100% grains diet, and so rawists who are particularly sensitive to grains(coeliacs etc. etc.) can get an allergy/food-intolerance to grain-fed meats as a result.

I'm one who has this reaction. I have the same reaction to grainfed meat even if it's raw.

If I was you Mentisafer I'd look for grass-fed red meat or chicken that is labeled as not eating a grainfed diet. A fairly effective stop-gap measure would be the Australian lamb in the supermarket as it's supposed to be raised on grass not grain.
The venison you're getting should also be a big help; just make sure you supplement with extra fat or carbs (if you eat them).
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 08:56:43 pm »
    The first time I tried (raw) chicken after going without it for numerous years, I made sure it was very fresh, organically fed and humanely slaughtered, but not that it had not eaten any grain.  No one else seemed to notice, but I smelled on myself an odor of (rancid?) corn oil (which I never had previously) for the next few subsequent days that just kept emanating from my skin.  I resolved to make sure not to get possibly grain fed again, have eaten (raw) chicken numerous times since and only had good smell after eating chicken.  Wait, one time I ate rare chicken and it was of dubious source, since.  Right after got an intense cold and it lasted several days.  What would that constitute possibly?  A grain sensitivity?
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 01:30:55 am »
    The first time I tried (raw) chicken after going without it for numerous years, I made sure it was very fresh, organically fed and humanely slaughtered, but not that it had not eaten any grain.  No one else seemed to notice, but I smelled on myself an odor of (rancid?) corn oil (which I never had previously) for the next few subsequent days that just kept emanating from my skin.  I resolved to make sure not to get possibly grain fed again, have eaten (raw) chicken numerous times since and only had good smell after eating chicken.  Wait, one time I ate rare chicken and it was of dubious source, since.  Right after got an intense cold and it lasted several days.  What would that constitute possibly?  A grain sensitivity?

Grain sensitivity is possible but corn sensitivity is more likely in this case. I'm allergic to both so I'm not sure which upsets me but something does upset me quickly. Within minutes I have a runny nose and sore throat.
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 02:07:30 am »
I said venison but it's actually bison that I'm getting on friday, organs and fat. But for now I thought about bying chicken at the supermarket. They have a brand called "Smart Chicken". In the web site it says it is free range too.
I thought that my reaction to the non organic beef I eat yesterday had to do with antibiotics and hormones they inject more than with the grains they feed them.
What do you think? I don't know if I'm allergic to anything, I'm southamerican and we don't look into that stuff.
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Re: Raw supermarket meat
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 05:00:53 am »
Nevermind, I just went to the market and the butcher lady was honest enough to tell me that Smart brand is not certified organic meaning it could have been altered before hatching with antibiotics and hormones. But she got me some frozen organic beef  and wild caught oisters. I've been just a few days on this plus egss and avocado and watermelon and my libido is driving me crazy  -d lol
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