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Offline shannon

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ketosis numbers
« on: September 24, 2010, 07:16:28 am »
how many carbs does it take to get one into ketosis?
now are these total carbs or net carbs?
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Re: ketosis numbers
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2010, 08:57:03 am »
I don't really get it either... I've read that anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1 (these numbers are the ratios of calories from fat : protein + carbs)
diet is ketogenic.

However, someone who is eating minimal amount of food daily no matter the ratio is not burning fat??.. I just don't feel that the ratio really has to matter if there is enough disparity between the energy taken in vs. used, but IDK.
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Re: ketosis numbers
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 03:08:11 pm »
It depends on the many factors - age, sex, physicial activity.
There is ketonemia and ketonuria.
You can eat 100 grams of carbs a day and still have got ketonemia; but rather not ketonuria.
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now are these total carbs or net carbs?
 
Net carbs, without a fiber.
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Re: ketosis numbers
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 06:02:33 am »
What is the difference between ketonemia and ketonuria? And if one is interested in losing excess body fat, is ketonuria (which I assume is presence of ketones in the urine, and indicated with ketostix) an adequate scenario on its own for fat loss, or is it possible to have achieved this state and still not be losing fat from the body?

I ask because I am eating low carb (<100g/day) and am interested in primarily regaining my health, but secondarily losing excess body fat. If further carb restriction might help lose the weight faster, I might be interested. I should do the experiment on myself to know for sure, but what is the theory here?
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Re: ketosis numbers
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 08:45:40 pm »
Quote from: Rob on September 28, 2010, 06:02:33 am
What is the difference between ketonemia and ketonuria?
Ketonemia - higher amount of ketones in the blood but without excreting it in the urine
Ketonuria - presence of ketones in the urine
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