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Fluoridated Babies
« on: February 28, 2011, 03:35:20 pm »
I usually try not to use my time on this forum to spread wild rumors about the medical establishments eugenics protocol. But Dammit if I didn't just spend 20 minutes listening to a doctor tell me she wanted to give my premature infant at least some fluoride. She was completely serious and believed that fluoride was a necessary element of good health.

Having 4 Babies born in a hospital I have witnessed some very questionable practices. But to stay on topic I would like to inform the people that now days there are recommendations that babies be sent home with a whole bottle of this stuff labeled vitamins, but on the insert it also says fluoride supplement, now premature babies don't have teeth and they definitely arnt in danger of becoming fluoride deficient, so why is it now hospital policy to does every last baby born , with fluoride. The vitamins are also synthetic and contain polysorbate80 and sorbitol, and god knows what else. They have given my child about 10 doses of these fluoride laced vitamins before I discovered what was on the label. I immediately informed one of the nurses that I wouldn't be using the vitamins, and when asked why, I  said that fluoride is nothing I want to feed my baby. Well she was low on the pole and sent a doctor over to give me a speech about the wonders of fluoride.

It was completely insulting to my intelligence, and I had to listen to her tell me to at least mix her some formula with tap water so that she gets some fluoride, and how although to much fluoride is poison that to little will cause bad teeth when they are older. Can you believe they're still selling this lie in 2011. She then said I could at least buy some fluoridated baby water they sell at the store. It was a painful experience to be scolded by a doctor for not wanting to fluoridate my newborn.

 I wonder if the fluoride is used in the nursery as a tranquilizer, it makes they infants more sedate. so they are cheaper to care for. Why are they so desperate to make sure my child is fluoridated, I just don't get it.
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Re: Fluoridated Babies
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 04:19:51 pm »
I just don't get it.

There is nothing to get, they are fucking idiots.
The ones higher up "the pole" tell them it is good, therefore it is good until science(ie corporate interest) deems otherwise. Last Spring I went to the dentist for a check up. Since I was a fruitloon, I had cavities. They were very assertive in my "need" for fluoride, they made this a point at least 10 times. Even giving me a little tube of fluoride toothpaste on my way out. Thanks to raw animal foods I only have a few sore spots, but I am yet to go back for another check up. FYI the dentist killed himself, I am not sure if this is related to fluoride but in my brain, the connection was made.

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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 06:33:10 pm »
I think it comes down to the quality of your healthcare system to be honest. Ours treat fluoride as a unwanted but needed agent. The reason dentists argue its case is because of our rampant sugar consumption. It is their last line of defense against rampant tooth decay caused by suger consumption. They they would rather have people stop eating as much sugar. They dont reccomend fluoridated toothpaste to children who still have their childs teeth either, since those will fall out anyway. No need for fluoride. 

To give it to babies is nuts, crazy. Are these hoppers out of their frigging mind?

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 02:58:56 am »
There isn't any amount listed on the bottle and its given Daily for the first few months to almost all newborns. The doctor says that they need some fluoride but they never know how much is actually going into these babies. If tap water is 4 parts per million who knows the concentration of what they are calling supplemental fluoride.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 06:14:37 am »
what were the excact reason offered up by the good doctor?. I did not adress it before but this;

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that to little (fluoride) will cause bad teeth when they are older

Is not just misleading, it is a hostile lie. Complete bogus. Humbug. The deal with fluoride is that it is a fairly good locally working agent. This means. It is good for teeth usually bathed in coca cola throughout the day, when you put it on the teeth. The toothpaste label tells you not to swallow it!!! Because if too much get into the body you can trigger a disease known as "Dental fluorosis" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_fluorosis) not to mention a host of other problems fluoride can cause when ingested regularly.

It is ludicrous. its absurd in the worst sense of the words. I am shocked and appalled. It is quackery of the highest magnitude and this guy should be tarred and feathered. It does not adress why we use fluoride at all. There is no thought given to prevent the problems from arising in the first place, which is what a sane medicine man would tell you to do. I'm not a doctor, but I can tell you the truth about children and teeth. Heres it is:

Dont feed them too much sugar. Brush their teeth every day and get them into a habit of using dentalflosh at least every 2nd day. There you go. Free of charge. No poison needed.

It didn't click at first but this shit got me well mad! Its fucking voodoo as far as im concerned.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 06:23:31 am »
I sit here with "Dental Carries - The disease and its Clinical Management -Edited by Ole Fejerskov and Edwina Kidd" (edit: I found an newer edit here The whole book is not available i realise, but I found a very interresting snippet). This book is part of the curriculum for dentist students in several places in Europe. After a long section about the history of fluoride, how various methods of transfer was tried (water, milk, salt) the consensus was that these methods were useless at best but toothpaste had practical appliances in relation to carries. I quote:

"For young children, brushing should be supervised and it is important that the toothpaste is out of their reach to minimize the rish of children eating toothpaste. When brushing, children should use a pea-sized amount of paste"

This is what dentists are told to tell their clients in upper Europe. Dont let the kids near this stuff on their own, but in American they bottlefeed it to infants...what the motherfu,.5t4Q&%¤&/



AND ITS GREAT FOR TEETH TOO!
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 03:55:06 pm »
In America you can go to about any supermarket and buy fluoridated water to be used with infant formula. I have seen the results of these bottle fed fluoridated babies, and I am appalled. This type of poisoning is right out in the open, and yet developmentally challenged children are just being considered the new norm. While exceptionally bright and gifted people are a rare occurrence. This is no delusion, I bare witness to whats going on and fluoride is just a part of the issue of lowered intelligence and vitality.

If a woman goes into labor they will often pump her full of pain meds and muscle relaxants, a dose of steroids and some prophylactic antibiotics. Then if the child is born at under 35 weeks gestation they are put on at least two days of low dose antibiotics, shot up with genetically modified hepatitis, and given daily doses of fluoride(which the amount is never specified)

Most often the early exposure to antibiotics leads to a yeast overgrowth that causes diaper rashes as well as making the infant prone to other infections. They use nystatin on the majority of children with bad rashes, and even have oral anti fungals for severe cases. The problem is that usually within three weeks there are severe rebound infections that require more drugs to treat, luckily I knew all about this before my children were born, and I have managed to avoid the trap.

So to sum it up, the average infant born today in a hospital will get

Prophylactic antibiotic
fluoridated vitamins
Hepatitis shot
vitamin k shot
Boys get mutilated(circumcision)

This is just the first day and applies to perfectly healthy babies,
an infant with any other health issues will be likely to get a bunch of other drugs added to it.
90 % of the hospital protocol I agree with totally, Its mainly the chemical concoctions they force upon everyone that I gripe about.

We arw just happy to have just gotten my little one home today she is fine and is about as happy as any baby I know

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 08:32:49 pm »
she's beautiful sabertooth!

i want to have child(ren) someday, but i have no idea how i will handle doctors and nurses.

a coworker is due next week with her second.  last week she was talking in the break room about which formula she is going to use (whatever is supposed to be the 'best')  bcz breast feeding was so difficult, she says 'why would i try to go through that again?'

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 08:35:10 pm »
In America you can go to about any supermarket and buy fluoridated water to be used with infant formula. I have seen the results of these bottle fed fluoridated babies, and I am appalled. This type of poisoning is right out in the open, and yet developmentally challenged children are just being considered the new norm.

If you read the link I provided and you know how to read through the neutral tone scientists are supposed to have in these kinds of papers, an obvious disgust with the places that force fluoridate their population is obvious through several snide remarks: "this clearly demonstrates how slowly some scientific results are transferred into public policy", "Certainly in those populations where the doctors and dentists followed the reccommendations from the National Board of Health children did develop white, opaque teeth as they experienced various degrees of dental fluorosis"  :o. In a scientific paper this is pure mockery (adressed to their colleagues abroad), completely biased against the practice.

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Prophylactic antibiotic
fluoridated vitamins
Hepatitis shot
vitamin k shot
Boys get mutilated(circumcision)

You have to wonder how our species got this far without all these wonderfull stuffs. "Medicine is a poison that also have wanted side effects". You should never medicate or operate lightly because of potential complications. I am in shock at what you write. I had no idea....




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90 % of the hospital protocol I agree with totally, Its mainly the chemical concoctions they force upon everyone that I gripe about.

Absolutely. We shouldnt turn to headless scepticism towards something that has done humanity as a whole so much good just because it is in a bad and abusive relationship with poison manifacturers at the moment. Politely tell your doctor that the science he is using is 60 years old and many of the trials were of such poor quality that they should have been archived vertically from the start. We are talking Ancel Keys 'science' here. Only worse.  

What a beautyfull child you have gotten there. Good work mate.

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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 08:45:10 pm »
EDIT: I removed my post.



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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 08:46:09 pm »
i want to have child(ren) someday, but i have no idea how i will handle doctors and nurses.

Don't handle them, just give birth at home without them but with the help of your RP friend!

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  bcz breast feeding was so difficult, she says 'why would i try to go through that again?'

 ???  Breast feeding is normal, nice 'n' easy, especially when you eat raw paleo! (I know, i did it for my son  ;D ;D !!)
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 08:50:26 pm »
When I was borned I got some sort of vaccine injected in my left arm I still have this little thing on my hand from that injection.
and in school one day they told me and my parents that I need to get a tetanus vaccine injection and my parents paid the mother fucker money so he inject it to me I had to vomit all day after this + crazy headache.

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 08:51:02 pm »
Congrats and may she turn into a free thinking rebel like yourself.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 01:09:29 am »
Kentucky has a history of neutrality, its first settlers where the mountain men who could live without much need for outside authority. Most people where neither rebel nor Yankee, and some of that spirit has remained to this day although I think for the most part it has been effectively stamped out. This may seem grandiose and far fetched but I have noticed how my people have been hit hard by eugenics since probably around after the first word war.

The fist generation of shots came around and did untold damage to the health of people in Appalachia. This genocide has been covered up, many were damaged and nothing was ever reported of it. About after World War 2 the quality food that these people where making for themselves began to be replaced by mid west grains.

My grandmother remembers living mainly off of beans, and meat,potatoes, garden vegetables, some raw dairy as well, the only bread available was home made with gram flour. Then all of the sudden by they time she had kids, there are mass efforts to fluoridate the water and vaccinate the children, while at the same time a lot of corn, oats and wheat are becoming the main food stuffs for the children. I don't know exactly if it was done out of the ignorance following the new deal, or was an outright effort to render incompetent, the legacy of those people who opted out of the insanity of the empire. Its a real Grey area.

My mother grew up off of rations of oats, and cornmeal mush. Its a testament to the ruggedness of my ancestors that they manage to grow up as well as they did. They were all malnourished(literally every one of my aunts and uncles have some mark of malnourishment) and once the hill people lost the ability to get top quality food from the woods, and from raising animals, it became impossible for the to gain the type of health that once belonged to the people of Daniel Boons generation.
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2011, 07:36:53 pm »
thats a good vid ST. This is a subject that comes up again and again. Perhaps we need a "all in one fluoride" thread with information about it?

Anyway. I think this is interresting http://www2.fluoridealert.org/Alert/United-States/Alaska/Military-bases-water-supply-overloaded-with-fluoride

http://www.adn.com/2010/04/28/1254268/military-bases-water-supply-overloaded.html

(do they deliberately ramp up the volume in military bases? Do anyone know if military bases usually have their own seperate water pipeline?)


Denmark is a largely socialist project. The state regulates everything here. But faced with suggestions of forced fluoridation back then, it was rejeccted flat out on grounds of being unreasonable interference with the individuals right to self governance. In gods own country, the most free nation in the world in which every man is his own sovereign and maker of happiness the government felt differently. I think thats well odd.


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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 11:02:45 pm »
As the video show Fluoride also contaminates agriculture so just eating vegetables watered and fertilized with fluoride can be contaminating. Its my opinion that people are being universally saturated with low continual doses of fluoride and it is preventing people from reaching their potential, and along with other issues like chlorine and other pollutants can be completely debilitating. I have traveled all over the country and have found water in some areas undrinkable. The chlorine taste is so overwhelming in some parts, that I swear most of the people have already been poisoned retarded. Whole communities are full of pale looking dull eyed people who have no spark of life left, and they mull about completely unaware of the poisons in the food and water that are steeling their life force. Its proven that children with even low leaves of fluoride in urine test have almost no chance of developing genius level intelligence. Every now and then some bight person may slip through the cracks , but without a greater intelligence in the community, the ones that aren't completely retarded get co-opted into some prefabricated position, were their intelligence is shacked to establishment run endeavors.

Their was once entire communities of brilliant people that existed all over America. Whole families with multiple gifted children in each household were a common thing. I am not claiming that fluoride alone is responsible for the disappearance of American genius, but its a huge factor, considering how little fluoride it takes to measurably reduce intelligence. I have the basic holistic opinion that at the same time fluoride was being put into the water, there were other factors at play as well. Midwest grains were being sprayed with all type of stuff, including fluoride contaminated fertilizer. These grains became the main staple of children across the country. The high reliance on these grain, along with the disappearance of old fashioned cooking where things like lard,raw dairy, and meat were staples, defiantly had an overall impact on the intelligence of our nation. Then all the one room school houses were replaced with propaganda factories that built a cage around creative intelligence, and forced the intelligent mind to work in circles on trivial pursuits.

The scope of the transformation of the American way of live within the past two generations is almost to large to comprehend, I may even concede that some aspects of culling individuality are necessary for the greater good of progress, but when it comes to the use of biologically poisonous agents, and the uses of foods that are proven to cause malnourishment, and an educational system that was designed enslaves young minds, then I am going to speak out, as well as seek out safer and saner alternatives.

Some times I wish I was just paranoid or deluded, but I just have too much solid evidence that things are chaotic and crazy beyond reason, and to go along with the illusion and pretend that all is well, is just not an option.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2011, 09:00:25 am »
Having 4 Babies born in a hospital I have witnessed some very questionable practices. But to stay on topic I would like to inform the people that now days there are recommendations that babies be sent home with a whole bottle of this stuff labeled vitamins...

I just discovered this recently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_K#Vitamin_K_injection_in_newborns

Another unnecessary and at times harmful practice.  Circumcision is another.

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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2011, 09:12:15 am »
a coworker is due next week with her second.  last week she was talking in the break room about which formula she is going to use (whatever is supposed to be the 'best')  bcz breast feeding was so difficult, she says 'why would i try to go through that again?'

OMG does she have any sense as to why she is breeding? 

This breeding pen we call "civilization" is subsidized in such as way that none of us should be surprised to see so many stupid, weak and ugly people reproducing from one generation to the next.  Civilization rewards such behavior (or removes most of the penalties).

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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2011, 09:14:51 am »

We arw just happy to have just gotten my little one home today she is fine and is about as happy as any baby I know


She's going to be strong with a father link you.  Congrats!


 

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