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Offline Iguana

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Re: Is coffee really all that bad?
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2012, 11:07:08 pm »
 
Interesting. Do people provide it at work and social parties too?
Yes, sure, mineral and spring water are very common.

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Yet not everyone in the world agrees with you that that is necessary or beneficial, so the debates will continue. Surely you have had enough people disagree with you to reveal this to you?
Yes, useless debates usually last long after a new and more adequate scientific theory has been devised. It’s always been the same and even Einstein’s special and general relativity remained a subject of debates for several decades.

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There are many reasons to eat organic produce beyond just the pesticides. I don't buy organic because of pesticides, though that's an additional nice benefit. Plus, there's at least some potential for some evolutionary adaptation to plant and cooking toxins over the 250,000 or so years that I think Tyler said that humans have been cooking--though I doubt there's been full adaptation--whereas pesticides have been regularly used for less than a century or so.
Yes, I agree.

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Plus, I don't notice any benefits from consuming pesticides, but I do from one particular coffee (YMMV), and other people have reported benefits in this thread and elsewhere (one study even reported that the more the coffee was heated, the better the benefits). For me, the benefits of small, intermittent consumption outweigh the negatives. I do recognize that this is not the case for some others, such as you.
There are plenty people reporting short term “benefits” from various cooked, Neolithic or modern foods. This doesn’t prove much as long as the person’s immune system is still in state of tolerance for the toxins contained in those foods.   
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Re: Is coffee really all that bad?
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2012, 08:06:59 am »
Yes, sure, mineral and spring water are very common.
Wow! That's quite different than it is here.
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Re: Is coffee really all that bad?
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2013, 05:59:39 am »
Yes, it is all that bad.  No more coffee for me. :) 

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Re: Is coffee really all that bad?
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2013, 06:02:26 am »
I am now on day 5 of no coffee. It's not easy. But that alone almost tells me how bad it is for me.
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Re: Is coffee really all that bad?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2013, 01:00:10 pm »
Iv had coofee on two occaasions and it sucked both times. I dont know why people drink it. Theres a slight euphoria but every other aspect sucks.
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