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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 14, 2012, 02:18:31 pm »
Alive? really?

anyways I was wrong it's 40% of Males 80% of females historically. Makes you wonder why we busted our arses as working bees when we could of fought back, or sat on the couch playing video games or go surfing.

 

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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 13, 2012, 07:43:25 pm »
I haven't made my personal viewpoint just bantered back and forth - nor am I going to in such an environment. How can you judge if they make common sense or not when the points were never made? That to me makes no common sense. You don't even have a CLUE what I think/feel/experience or my perspective yet you say nonsense about men losing semen - that has NOTHING at all to do with anything I was referring to. So what if men masturbate? I don't judge that. Do you? Why bring that up? Are you talking about another discussion I had explaining tantra to Adora? That's something completely different and only one way of looking at things and totally irrelevant.

This thread is a waste of my time/energy and continuing to converse with me over something not expressed is a waste of other people's time obviously since there is no interest or openness.

Attack all you will, or observe, make up things, twist my words into what you want them to mean or whatever you want to call it. I'd prefer it if you stopped though and just went on with your conversations without me without attacking, judging, observing any more.

If you want to continue, please know that I am not going to be reading it - so you can dis (dismiss, disrespect, disparage) me to everyone else instead if you like, but no more of this for me.

Thoth, I'm surprised. I thought you were an open-minded kind of person in general. :(


Why choose Buffy?

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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 13, 2012, 07:40:23 pm »
The point is that in paleo times most men held (or were able to procure) valuable material resources, not just a few or some men as in today´s capitalistic or class societies. If many or most men hold valuable material resources, women do have a broad choice between different men and therefore enjoy a fair amount of freedom in their choice (meaning they don´t have to look predominantly for material resources when it comes to mating, because almost every man is able to procure the material resources necessary for his children to survive and get a strong social position in their tribe). I would bet that there was much more social equality in paleo times than there is in today´s western societies. Just look at HGs!

What gives you this idea? In my parents´, grandparents´ etc. generations, almost every man had at least two children.

only 20% of men have passed on their genes and 80% of women. Some science article I read. Makes sense too.

How do you know their children were theirs? alpha for genes beta to bring home the bacon.

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General Discussion / Re: Raw meat becoming increasingly disgusting
« on: July 13, 2012, 07:18:20 pm »
Exactly the topic subject! The more beef I am eating the worse it is getting  -v

I basically hate the taste of raw beef now. The raw liver is fairly tasteless, but I am tending to make myself raw liver curry and that's pretty nice. The kangaroo is better tasting than the beef but is still getting pretty sickly, and lamb no better. I couldn't afford to have salmon or fish every night, and I can't live off organs because I would probably OD on something like Vit A, plus they are 'oversatisfying' by which I mean I eat a little then I am 'satisfied' even though I am still quite hungry.

What do I do?!

Large pizza and a 6 pack. Cheap, filling/bloating

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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 10, 2012, 02:07:08 pm »
but women also appreciate to be loved and want to feel that their potential partner cares for them, so I don´t think that few men would get all the sex.
Regarding money / rich men, there will never be true sexual freedom for women if few men have all the money and women have to prostitute themselves for these rich men simply to survive or be able to feed their children (as seems to be the case in the Phillipines).

Men have always been the ones who have held resources. It's our bargaining chip..you girls have the beauty. What is happening now in germany and the west is not normal. Plenty of men have never had true sexual freedom as most have never procreated.


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Off Topic / Re: A message from DopeDivinity
« on: July 10, 2012, 08:54:49 am »
I had a chat with him and he has decided to leave the forum and experiment with other diets for a while.

He said he may come back eventually but until then he needs to find what works for him.

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Health / Re: raynaud syndrom
« on: July 08, 2012, 09:04:30 pm »
Lucky or unlucky it's Psychosomatic.

Better eating may help you feel better and cope with issues better but it's you body displaying stress, tension or some other emotional issue.


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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 08, 2012, 08:59:29 pm »
Guaranteed Sabertooth will meet younger hotter babes between now and 50 years.


I would bet on it.

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Off Topic / Re: documentary Sicko by Michael Moore
« on: July 08, 2012, 08:57:43 pm »
I have watched a few of his movies, Bowling For Columbine, fahrenheit 911, and Sicko.

There is truth in what he says and also a certain amount of liberal style dishonestly. He is so good at his craft that he makes a great story.

However the right in the US has expended a great amount of energy attacking Michael because he exposes their weakness for money and corruption in an elegant and hilarious fashion..

I agree with Sabertooth about the whole system being rotten to the core, but from the strict point of view of the average citizen who has swallowed the allopathic Kool-Aid whole, MM is correct. The Canadian system is free if you want drugs and slice and dice and I do not agree with that because there is no incentive to take care of yourself.

I know of only one person who goes to the US for healthcare and he happens to have a company which has a large branch in the US and he gets his insurance through them and he uses his company aircraft to fly him to a US clinic. He just believes he is getting better care. I know of a number of ways to have prevented his illness, but he has bought the Allopathic Kool-Aid. He's probably worth 100 mil.

I travel to the US periodically and it is hilarious listening to the people there who truly have swallowed the Kool-Aid that they have a superior medical system and that there are line-ups for months to see a Doctor in Canada. That is BS.

My 90 year old mother had eye surgery. No line-up. I went for my pilot medical and got a prescription for a blood test, ECG. Total waiting time at the drop-in clinics was maybe ten minutes. Cost - zero. Return trip for the results - zero. No arguing with HMOs or discussing with the 'Department of Exclusions.'

He is good at documentry making but a big girl.

That's if he really believe's what he saying and not coking it up with pro's like the rest of the faux liberals.

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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 08, 2012, 08:34:22 pm »
sabertooth, for your deal to work out you both have to be with someone, so at the same time you're both full of the "love hormones" that are pumping in the first few months you fall in love with someone.
Otherwise jealousy will very likely ruin the relationship.
Just writing my thoughts.

What if Saber meet's a woman who his wife knows is younger/hotter than her? female hypergamy in reverse and hyperdrive

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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 06, 2012, 01:49:26 pm »
Thanks Wodg.

Do you mean that you would be open to having more than one partner as long as it wasn't her or do you mean that she wouldn't want to have another partner involved?

Are you still with this woman?

Having place and work settled is important. Like what GS was talking about - Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Hard to really think too much about general societal trends or even others much when you don't have your own basic needs of shelter, food and safety handled.

With that set, do you feel like you're ready to start letting down some of the barriers yet?

Ok for me, yes and...wow you ask some pretty hard questions. You got enough dirt on me...



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General Discussion / Re: Late onset dyslexia
« on: July 06, 2012, 01:17:42 pm »
Are you doing any heavy mental/emotional/spiritual work lately?  This can cause similar symptoms as well.  Big energetic shifts, eft, emotional release, spiritual work, etc.

I rarely get angry but chucked a big spastic (in the privacey of my own home ; 0 ) when I spilt all my offal order on the floor. I had already spilt it in the carpark on the way home.

I really got annoyed threw a few things then wham my vision went weird in my left eye and the other symptoms I mentioned.



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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: July 01, 2012, 11:54:03 am »
I have a lot barriers up and have been single most of my life, I have worked hard to own my place, started my business to protect myself from the whims of other people...

I picked a girl who my mate took  party a year ago. Nothing happened with them, we went out.

I don't know about having more than one partner, I woud be happy for me to have more than one partner not her.








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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: June 30, 2012, 12:21:55 pm »
Thank you for explaining your culture GS. The US is relatively a new country (when not taking into consideration the native inhabitants) but most of the cultures from which we all came from here in the past were pretty much the same as yours unless they just abandoned the women.

The difference in this day and age is that women are able to take care of themselves and their children often on their own not having to live with a man that they no longer love or that can satisfy them sexually (or that they were never attracted to or loved - just chose because they have money). In your culture would it be ok with you and your extended family for your wife to go out and find herself another man? Would it be ok for her to get pregnant with another man? Would you still stand by her? In our culture there historically were outrageous double standards.

Of course there is more to love than sex - but you said yourself earlier that you thought that your wife never really loved you. If my husband never had sex with me again I would stay with him. Love is MUCH more than sex. But my husband and I would talk about it. I guess in your culture it's all set up where you don't have to talk about it. You are expected to go out and get mistresses. Often though, even if it is accepted, it doesn't mean that the woman is truly happy with the situation. You also probably in your culture are not taught how to really pleasure a woman - or there wouldn't be so many women that stop wanting to have sex with their husbands. In other cultures that I'm familiar with the women are considered to be the pleasure objects of the men and when a woman stops it's not up to the man to figure out how to make it better - they just leave for another woman. It does affect the children - especially the girl children dramatically. The girls expect that they will have little chance at real happiness - that's for the men.

It sounds like you married more than your wife - you married her family. That's actually a beautiful thing. In a sense in your culture in a way you learn how to divorce without divorcing. You still will take care of her and the children financially but go off with other women to meet your emotional and sexual needs. But where does that leave your wife? What will that do to your daughters if you have them?

It sounds like something was created that is better than abandonment - yes, but it sounds like a world of continuing hurt for so many women.

Hey Dorothy

Your last statement was full of craziness. I think you need to re-read GS's previous post again and not project.

Wodg


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General Discussion / Re: The price of grass fed and game
« on: June 30, 2012, 09:28:54 am »
I heavily disagree. I have never found raw, grain-finished to be any good. It's "less worse" than fully grainfed meats but that's all. Read this article for further info re this:-

http://donmatesz.blogspot.co.at/2011/01/practically-primal-guide-to_21.html

In the UK, I have found raw wild game to be far cheaper(eg:-  a whole raw wild hare carcass for 13 pounds sterling, which lasts me 2-3 days) and raw, grassfed meats are cheap provided I only buy raw organ-meats(which I anyway prefer) or raw grassfed minced meat. In Austria I cannot get hold of raw organ meats of suitable quality and the raw wild game is pretty expensive(but far more exotic, such as raw moufflon, raw wild boar etc.) but I stick to c.700g of raw meat a day and that still only costs me c.82 euros a week.

Standard tips on reducing costs for all members who want to save cash:-

1) When buying raw grassfed meats only buy raw organ-meats or raw, minced meats. Buying raw grassfed fillet or rump steak is sheer madness, and utterly pointless  - I actually find the cheapest cuts of meat to be more nutritious, not less. I've known many farmers give some of the raw organ-meats to me for free since I also buy some of their raw muscle-meats as well, and no one else wants the organ-meats, because they're stupid and brainwashed.

2) Buy raw wild game if possible as it's (often but not always) cheaper. If you have a hunter/farmer friend you could even get wild game carcasses for free.

3) Go in for Intermittent Fasting(only 1 large meal a day, eaten within 4 hours):-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting

Trust me, you'll feel better if you do the above rather than following Aajonus's foolish advice to eat dozens of tiny small meals throughout the day. The less stress you put on the body re digestion, the more energy/effort the body can divert away towards healing.

4) If you're near the coast,  some of the raw seafood should be very cheap. You still have to be selective - I mean, raw lobster, raw scallops and raw wildcaught salmon will still be too expensive, while raw mussels, raw crabs, raw sardines and raw sprats/mackerels etc. should be dirt-cheap.


5) Re fats:- Raw organ-meats like raw marrow, raw tongue, raw brains, raw suet are mostly or wholly fat.

6) There are online groups which cater to those pet-owners who want to feed their pets on a high-quality raw(prey-model) diet. I know that US farms like Slanker's sell pet-grade food which people like Lex find perfectly acceptable for humans, that's a great way to cut down on costs. I'm too much of a snob to have tried that route yet, as I prefer raw wild game to any mere raw  grassfed meats, but I think it's worth a shot.

7) I understand that Australian Aborigines eat raw foods like the live witchetty grub. I don't suppose there's a chance that you could find some specimens and grow them for food? Just an eccentric idea.


Grain finished is not bad and sometimes it's really good. I eat it when traveling for the most part. If I had to rely on grassfed I would starve or could never be further than a short drive of my house.

I eat it all the time. Plus our cattle spend most of their lives on pasture,

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General Discussion / Late onset dyslexia
« on: June 30, 2012, 01:12:26 am »
Over the last few days I've had trouble reading/spelling
I will read a sentence and get the letters jumbled and read something different, for instance I will read 'sport' when it actually is reports. This has been happening for two days.
Then I was trying to write 'tall' I  wrote 'dall', and stared at it and couldn't work out what was wrong. Then I came up with 'fall'.  All the while I was saying' tall' in my head but couldn't spell it. This has been happening all day.

My vision had been weird too, one eye has been like a kaleidoscope

I've started a business so there is the added pressure of that. Hopefully this is the cause.

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Off Topic / Re: Vitalis on monogamy vs. polyamory
« on: June 29, 2012, 05:44:41 pm »
Let me help you understand our cultural differences.

- sexless does not mean love less

- marriage means more than just sex.  There's children, there's in laws, there's family and extended family. 

- if she became fat and ugly and unattractive I would still love my wife because I made a commitment to her and my children... and the children need us as parents and grandparents and great grand parents.

- of course if my wife was fat and ugly and unattractive, she wouldn't be such a tease and cause me blue balls every day...

- my philosophy in life is the purpose of life is to make more life, I believe the tradition of a rock solid family and extended family is a good recipe for reproductive success... with bastards on the side... are bonuses and insurances in this game of life. ( as stated in the book Sperm Wars )

- culturally in our culture, mistressing is too common and expected... what is frowned upon are divorces and abandonment, especially those who abandon just because the wife is no longer sexual... that is really really mean and nasty.  Abandoning wife and children may mean starvation and death.

Because there is no government big brother mandating and insuring survival in our country.  There is no government apparatus to enforce child support or give EBT cards to mothers or unemployed in need.  We have to stick together to survive... the old fashioned way... United we stand... divided we fall.

In the big cities there are just too many women because of migration for jobs.  The women have learned to share in good men.  Where a good man at least has a job and some money.... or he has good genes.  Many men are jobless drunkards womanizers.  So get a man who has a job, is not a drunkard, will give child support.  Or hear your biological clock tick away and be childless... a fate many women refuse to accept.

There are 2 types of reproductive women... the #1 wife type... and the mistress types.  The mistress types know their place and are immensely attracted to married, committed men, and know their place and follow the ettiquetes for mistresses book.

Culturally, our Muslim brothers and sisters in our own country and cities are enshrined in law that they can have up to 4 wives and can marry legally beginning 16 years old.  And we can see so much harmony and strength in their families.  They have to be strong because they themselves have to endure tribal / family wars... woe to those with weak families.

Culturally, we love children and family... many here are not in the "me" only divorce culture.

So you find out your man has a mistress?  Welcome to the club where literally all worthy good men have one.

Some men also get by with just prostitution when their wives cannot deliver.   Some #1 wives prefer this.



Wow so interesting.
We have more men than women.
Opposite dynamics.

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So what if she didn't have a family? Maybe she didn't want one. In our country it was almost impossible for a woman to do what she did and have a family and be married because she had to work 100 times harder and longer than any man to do it. It's the culture and system. Or maybe she couldn't have children or whatever. That's why most women wouldn't choose (even if they had what it took) to do what she did - but they might like to get paid the same thing as the man next door when doing the same job better at a Wall Street firm.

And why when I discuss things do you think I am stirred up? What is your definition? What did I say that made you make that comment?  A woman replying to you constitutes her being stirred up?  Why, are you trying to stir me up? If you think my replying to you here is stirred up you have no idea what that really means - at least when it comes to me. I'm totally cool just discussing something with another person that doesn't seem to have a clue hoping to make a dent.

PS - If you don't realize it, you came across as stupendously condescending in your last post.

 

I mean't it to be taken light heartedly :)

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Ok - You deserve it! Sorry Tyler - but he's making me do it. I'm changing my picture back to Oprah. Or maybe I'll change it to Muriel Siebret! Don't blame me - if y'all don't want to see the face of a powerful/wealthy woman looking at you (no matter what else you think of her) then tell Wodg to stop saying silly things to taunt me.

For those that don't know - to make it on the stock exchange as a women you have to be 100 times better than the men. Siebret is the best of these.


...So dedicated to her career she never got around to getting married and having a family.

ps you're so easy to stir up

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The same reason why women are not on Wall Street is the same reason why there are no female Facebook/Apple/Microsoft multi billionaires.






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Obviously the gender bender's plan is to put more women in more powerful roles so they have control over greater wealth. Who's at the very top is not important. They are so unbelievable wealthy it doesn't matter... it's the power they enjoy.

If women want to complain they don't earn as much as men and should be powerbrokers at the top then they should start up their own companies. It's not hard, just register your name, organise your structure and off you go...or are we stopping you from doing that too?

I can't think of one start up self made female millionare/billionaire




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Off Topic / Re: Humans came from Asia, not Africa.
« on: June 25, 2012, 10:25:19 pm »
Can't remember the name of the guy, but my recollection is that Darwin wrote about, but was not the originator of his brand of evolution. ie he did not 'discover' evolution.

Wallace I think

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Substitute 'train' with 'shame' heh


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Waaaat? Not even a little smiley face? Ok, I'll do it - just like it always is, the women having to pick up the slack. ;D

; ) you know why women have small feet?

So they can stand closer to the sink.

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Women now earn more the men...more women graduate college..live longer...get better health care...more benefits...more time off...preferential custody and divorce arrangements...

Many men are without jobs. Especially in construction..trades...men are getting lazier because the cards are stacked against them.









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