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General Discussion / Re: Should one supplement with cod oil?
« on: September 13, 2010, 04:58:43 pm »
kurite:

That is true, I forgot to account for omega-6 in the oil...but that seems pretty negligible :
1 teaspoon has about 40-50 mg, a small fraction of the ratio...

And with the grain-fed beef I guess it depends where you get it from, some may have more omega-6 some less.
But even if it has twice the amount that nutritiondata states like you say, and plus the tiny amount in the oil,
then I can just take 2 tablespoons (cod liver oil) on a day eating grain fed meat and the ratio would still be ok.

goodsamaritan:

I often gorge on salmon, red tuna, trout and marlin (not sure which kind but the meat looks light red), sometimes I eat the farmed one if they don't have wild, yes it's more "polluted" but its still pretty good for you and I never felt sick from eating farmed raw fish (maybe some farms are better then others), quite the opposite actually, fish makes up for 30% to 50% of my meat meals...If I lived in the right place I'd make it more like 80-90% :P That's why I think it makes sense to drink fish oil if you eat a lot of meat other than fish or no fish, because even grass-fed meats and game meats can have a much higher omega-6 then omega-3.

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General Discussion / Re: Should one supplement with cod oil?
« on: September 13, 2010, 03:19:15 pm »
well I got curious so I checked http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3689/2
and an "all-grades" raw chuck roast (calculating for a 6oz steak) has
61.6(*6)= 369.6 mg - omega-3 and
132(*6)= 792 mg - omega-6
...so then I will need about 422.4 mg of omega-3 to balance it.

According to label on Calson Cod Oil ( http://www.swansonvitamins.com/CSN009/ItemDetail )
5ml of oil has 1100mg omega-3 fatty acids (which is a teaspoon)

So that means I should take about half a teaspoon with a small steak.
I have drank this stuff in shots before since I like the taste, I don't think a teaspoon of cod oil a day is much at all.

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General Discussion / Should one supplement with cod oil?
« on: September 13, 2010, 01:18:51 pm »
From what I learned so far, grain raised animals, organic or not, have too much omega-6.
Although I do try to get grassfed sometimes I get grain-fed because it is cheaper, or that's what the store has that looks good or most appetizing.

So should I supplement with a high quality cod or krill oil when I do eat the grain-fed meat? Would that balance it out a bit?
And if so then how much oil do I take with for example an average sized grain-fed steak?

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General Discussion / Deer
« on: September 11, 2010, 02:07:45 pm »
I found a store where they're gonna deliver fresh deer tomorrow...so I am gonna run and grab some.
I have had it quite a while ago slow-cooked as stew and remember it was very delicious.
Now I am going to eat it raw so I am wondering what it will be like? How does it compare to raw cow?

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General Discussion / Re: Nut Butter
« on: September 11, 2010, 02:03:35 pm »
It is too delicious, that's too bad it would make you feel horrible, cause of all the sugar and nut oils you mean?
I don't have them often once or twice a week but when I want that chocolate high its the thing! Heh, when family see me making them they start stalking and prowling around the kitchen, and then I have to make them stop trying to thief them before they're frozen...

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General Discussion / Re: Nut Butter
« on: September 10, 2010, 05:50:05 am »
I love macadamias and pine nuts...somehow they are just more "juicy" then the other nuts...
I mainly eat these nuts if I want a dessert thing...
I make raw truffles using the macadamia and pine nuts.

I made these yesterday and they were awesome:
- macadamias and pine nuts ground in a coffee grinder till buttery but still a little crunchy.
- dried Goji berries ground in coffee grinder
- lots of raw cacao powder
- some raw honey
Mix & mold above ingredients into a "dough" using hands
Roll it into balls
Roll the balls into cinnamon to coat them
Freeze for half an hour or so to harden them and mold flavors

And that's my fave raw desert, and the only one I eat besides fruit...it really satisfies any chocolate/sweet cravings for chocoholics :P And they make me really full so I eat this dessert as a separate meal actually (yes its kinda high sugar due to the honey but the nut fats seem to balance it out for me)...

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General Discussion / Re: salt-cured fish
« on: September 10, 2010, 04:46:37 am »
Really? That's interesting, I guess we all react to salt differently, just like some people can eat more veggies and fruit then meat and others have to eat mostly meat to feel well.

But you know, pulling a fish out of the salty ocean and eating eat right away it may have lots of salt on it  >D

From what I know unprocessed sea salt has many benefits (as long as you don't gorge on it):
- Many minerals - iodine, zinc, manganese, potassium, calcium, magnesium, and iron
- lowers blood pressure
- slowing down the aging of skin
- maintain the electrolyte balance
- powerful antihistamine
- helps to balance blood sugar levels

I have been doing the raw diet and I do use sea salt, not having any adverse effects, in fact I feel very good ingesting some sea salt each day.
And salty raw fish is soooo yummi!
Which is why I was wondering in the first place.

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General Discussion / Re: salt-cured fish
« on: September 10, 2010, 04:34:06 am »
OK I see what you mean...
I think it really depends on the location you were living in then.
This summer I could have gathered heaps of salt from the dried rock puddles if I wanted too (but I didn't want to spend my vacation doing that ha ha), in those more primitive times people didn't have jobs or much other things to do (besides surviving) other then foraging and hunting the natural land so I imagine they could have gathered lots of it without the use of salt-mines IF they lived in the right area.

Also we eat raw beef one day then only salmon the next day if we so want etc (oh what choices we have) ... it not like the people back then had a choice, so I guess eating TRUE paleo is eating ONLY the things available where you are at the moment (if I did that I should move out of the city ASAP). Using this logic to be TRUE paleo I also can't eat pine nuts cause they're not growing here, that will NOT do for me I love my pine nuts, and am happy modern technology has a way to bring me raw foods I wouldn't otherwise be able to get.

So I guess I am asking in the terms of health-wise modern raw eating rather then TRUE paleo, has anyone who eats completely raw (not necessarily true paleo but just all raw or almost-all-raw) experimented with salted fish? Where there any adverse effects?

And does anyone know a scientific reason of exactly how raw unsalted fish differs from salt-cured besides the fact that it has more salt and less moisture? Also I like salt water fish and those live in the same salt water that we can get sea-salt from so it kinda makes sense.

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General Discussion / Re: salt-cured fish
« on: September 10, 2010, 04:03:07 am »
Hmmm I found so much sea-salt congregated on the rocks while camping this summer, I am not sure how gathering sea salt that is not paleo... since from what I know paleo is a diet of things that can be found and gathered in nature and eating them without processing, and sea salt is easy to gather from rocks, very easy, at least where I was!
The fish is raw to begin with, then all I am doing is placing/mixing the raw fish on the salt and letting it sit there a while. If that is considered processing, then shouldn't dehydration of fruits and meats should also be considered processing and not paleo (since its even more of a process to dehydrate fruits then slob some salt on a fish)?
What about raw honey added to fish - that should also be not paleo then, honey is harder to find then sea salt in some areas i can never find any honey lol....
Not trying to be picky just interested in scientific reasons or any other explanations.  -\

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General Discussion / salt-cured fish
« on: September 10, 2010, 03:21:37 am »
Is home made sea-salt-cured fish considered raw?
Whatever your answer I'd be curious as to the reason you think why.

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