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Title: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on March 25, 2011, 08:40:53 am
I thought I should add this so I can put down my various thoughts, experiences and so on, now that I have been eating a RPD for over a month so it seems like it is working quite well for me.

The first month I ate raw lamb, mostly muscle meats but also some organs from a grass fed lamb that I bought.  I also included raw eggs from pastured free range chickens, and a little grass fed beef from the local farmers' market.  My fruit intake was typically a meal of fruit in the morning until I was satisfied, then meat the rest of the day.  Some days I also had fruit for lunch and a large dinner of raw meat.  I wasn't hungry at all but I made myself eat because the calorie intake was so low and I was losing weight.  I cut out olive oil, coconut oil, vegetables and dairy after the first few weeks.  A week ago I treated myself to seafood and fish: tuna, cod and scallops.  I also had some honey a few weeks ago, but I didn't like the sugar rush it gave me.  In the last week I found myself eating only one or two pieces of fruit a day and significantly more meat.  But today I suddenly felt sick of meat this evening and so I ate a large meal of all fruit.  I also stopped taking vitamins and omega-3 supplements as I think they are no longer necessary.  I also eliminated tea from my diet.

I began exercising.  I stretch when I first wake up in the morning and I do some weight training when I feel the desire.  I also stopped using furniture (I now crouch or sit on the floor and it is becoming more and more comfortable) and sleep on a thin mat on the floor without a pillow.

Improvements to my health include improved attention, more sexual control and satisfaction, elevated mood, more energy (most of the time), more restful sleep, decreased craving for alcohol, improved digestion, improved elimination, and loss of fat and improved muscle tone.  I had a twitch on my face that went away, I can now stand up quickly without feeling dizzy, my skin is tougher (I get less cuts when shaving), my gums have become pinker and hardly bleed when brushing my teeth (it used to look like I was punched in the mouth), I had soreness on my anal area that went away, and fatigue with leg soreness and cramps that has disappeared. 

Every morning I wake up completely alert and excited about facing the day, knowing I can accomplish anything.  I see my diet as a beginning rather than an end, I see a spiritual path before me that has been opened up by eating a raw paleo diet.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: laterade on March 25, 2011, 12:49:03 pm
I can now stand up quickly without feeling dizzy...

Oh man, I can totally relate. This has happened to me in the past so many times, not at all recently  :)
Before you were a vegan right?
You might want to share what you were eating in the past. For contrast.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on March 25, 2011, 05:09:54 pm
Oh man, I can totally relate. This has happened to me in the past so many times, not at all recently  :)
Before you were a vegan right?
You might want to share what you were eating in the past. For contrast.

I was eating a SAD before.  Here is my background:

Birth to 15 - SAD, but on the healthy side (home cooked meals, a variety of meat, fish, vegetables, whole grains, full fat milk, very little sweets)
15 to 22 - vegan, lots of veggies, tofu, fake meat products, beans, rice, and so on
22 to 31 - SAD, more or less what I grew up eating, but I developed a carb addiction, lots of pasta, rice, beer

Then I ate paleo for a few weeks and now raw paleo.  On cooked paleo meat was making my gut throb so I tried raw and it was much better.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: Max on March 26, 2011, 12:50:38 am
Hello Magnetic,

That is an interesting story.  I am happy this WOE is going well for you.  It is going good for me as well.  Was there any specific event or condition that brought you to RAW PALEO?
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on March 26, 2011, 01:40:27 am
Hello Magnetic,

That is an interesting story.  I am happy this WOE is going well for you.  It is going good for me as well.  Was there any specific event or condition that brought you to RAW PALEO?


I was just feeling shitty, overloading on carbs, drinking a lot of beer, feeling depressed and in general poor health.  Changing to raw paleo improved many aspects of my life.  I had made some small changes before changing my diet.  I quit smoking a few years ago, began drinking more water and walking to work.  I cut out all sugar and high fructose corn syrup 6 months before switching to cooked paleo.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on March 30, 2011, 08:29:09 pm
I have been feasting on organs from my grassfed cow that is currently aging.  I ate the less appealing organs first, though by the end of eating lung and spleen I had developed a bit of a taste for them.  I also ate thyroids and blood, and eyes.  This morning I ate the last of the face meat.  Today I am having heart.  Once that is eaten I only have a whole liver and tongue, but I should be getting my muscle meat soon.  I specified that the meat not be frozen, so it should taste fresh and delicious, which should help with my appetite, which has been very low. 

It hasn't helped that I have been trying to extend my meat by eating more fruit, which I think has contributed to my low energy.  I may try eating more low sugar fruit and less high sugar fruit in the future.  The problem is bananas, of which I can't seem to get enough.

The problem may also have been psychological.  I now have no aversion whatsoever to muscle meats and certain organs like liver and heart, and I love bone marrow.  I think the less appealing lungs and spleen may have killed my appetite and been the cause of low energy.

I felt so weak yesterday evening I ate a whole tub of cottage cheese.  I enjoyed it and it was delicious, and I handle dairy fine, I just wish it were raw and free of additives.  It definitely satisfied my cravings more than meat could at the time.  It bothered me that it had all those strange added substances.  It was the first dairy I have eaten in over a month, since starting eating RPD.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: Josh on March 31, 2011, 02:38:19 am
Cool about the cow. Might wanna watch out for the opioids angle in craving dairy.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on March 31, 2011, 06:37:51 am
Cool about the cow. Might wanna watch out for the opioids angle in craving dairy.

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: Josh on March 31, 2011, 02:52:08 pm
Well dairy is high in opioids...addictive substances which is one reason why people crave it. So I'm just saying if it satisfies cravings, you want it more than meat, this might not all be a righteous craving.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on March 31, 2011, 03:48:41 pm
Thanks, I will consider that.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on April 06, 2011, 04:44:39 pm
In the past few days I have added soaked/acidified non-gluten grains to my diet for energy.  The most prominent group (in the U.S.) that mentions such methods is the Weston A. Price Foundation.  Also, I have acquired a cow share and will be getting raw milk soon.  So it looks as though my diet is moving from LC/VLC RAF (eggs, chicken, lamb, beef, fish and seafood) to more of a WAP diet.  I am trying this to see how my energy levels and appetite change.

I have had brown rice and oats, and both digested well.  I also had some soaked black beans. Cooking was confusing at first, and introducing a new food type also made me think about how I should incorporate the food into what I eat during the day, which naturally led me to the principles of food combining.  On eating a RAF diet I mono-ate, eating fruit in the morning and animal foods later in the day.  Food combining is an extension of the mono-eating principle/theory. 
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on May 14, 2011, 08:18:20 am
A month ago, I was losing too much weight and feeling weak so I added in non-glutenous whole grains to my diet. That was a mistake. Carb cravings took over and soon I was eating pasta, sugar, beer, just about everything. Over the past month I have felt terrible but unable to make changes. The only food I was eating that was supplying adequate nutrition was raw milk and raw milk kefir.

I realized that I am lazy and don't like having to prepare my food. The next order of meat I put in it will be all ground beef. I now have a meat grinder so I can grind organs. I think there is a benefit to chewing and tearing meat off the bone, the action strengthens the jaw. But in my case I need it to be easy to eat, for now.

Also, I am leaning towards a zero-carb diet. I have noticed that I feel better the less carbs I eat. Today I bought 5 pounds of wild seafood as a treat to go with the last of my beef, before I place my next order. I fasted over the last 24 hours. I ate some scallops, high meat and ground beef and I feel much better now.

I hope to be able to maintain my weight and become more toned, and feel more alert mentally.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: laterade on May 14, 2011, 10:33:10 am
Were the grains cooked or raw?
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on May 18, 2011, 08:47:45 pm
Were the grains cooked or raw?

They were cooked. I would soak them first in an acidic solution for 24 hours (48 hours for legumes) to remove antinutrients and boost the nutrient content.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: laterade on May 19, 2011, 06:12:39 am
Interesting, wild rice has been working great for me every other day. I do it a bit different though.
Soak about a half cup for 72 hours in spring water in glass.
Cook then let cool to about 100deg
Then cover in 3 tablespoons of butter, add herbs & spices(almost always mustard or chile).
Eat with home fermented sour kraut.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on May 19, 2011, 08:59:55 am
I think the problem is that you can cook and I cannot.  ;D

I actually just ate some cooked grass-fed beef. I have been eating RZC for the past week and today I was disgusted by the ground beef I was eating earlier in the day. I think it may have tasted off because it has been frozen for over 6 months. The Amish at the local farmer's market have a real hard time selling any of their grass-fed beef so it is all really old.

I need to experiment more to find the right balance of foods for me, eating RZC I again had no energy, while at the same time inflammation was way down. I need to eat so that I am getting the right proportion of Omega-3/Omega-6 FA to keep inflammation down, while maintaining appetite so I don't lose 20 pounds and look like a skeleton.

Raw weston price diet didn't work because raw meat doesn't go with cooked rice, veggies and so on.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: laterade on May 19, 2011, 01:20:36 pm
Raw weston price diet didn't work because raw meat doesn't go with cooked rice, veggies and so on.
Very true for me as well, I eat them at least an hour apart.
Fermented foods in between always. Be it kraut or mead, lots of yeasts and bacteria work wonders for me.

....I think it may have tasted off because it has been frozen for over 6 months....
Yes, frozen is simply not the same. Still good stuff though. Yet again, fermented foods should help.
You tried high meat, right?
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on May 19, 2011, 08:06:13 pm
Very true for me as well, I eat them at least an hour apart.
Fermented foods in between always. Be it kraut or mead, lots of yeasts and bacteria work wonders for me.
Yes, frozen is simply not the same. Still good stuff though. Yet again, fermented foods should help.
You tried high meat, right?

I made 10 pounds of high meat from never frozen grass-fed ground beef. I aired it every day for over a month, and it definately became very high and stinky. I liked the smell and was eating it but my girlfriend and roommate is convinced it gave her stomach flu, which makes no sense. I ate about half of it, it was giving me very vivid dreams and I was waking up with original music in my head. Since it is her apartment (I pay half the rent and expenses but I am subletting from her) I agreed to get rid of it. She fled from the smell to a friend's apartment for a few days. I fed about 4 pounds to some ducks we are raising next to our apartment. At least it did not go to waste and I can eat the ducks in a few months.

I have been drinking raw milk kefir, except when I was RZC for a week. Now I am drinking it again and drink 4 cups each day, 2 in the AM and 2 cups PM. I have never had any problems with dairy, and I am not at all pro-dairy I just think I have the genetics to digest it properly. Anyways, I am considering trying cooked WAP diet or one of those anti-inflammatory diets, but still eating raw animal foods regularly, like sushi, steak tartare and such prepared raw dishes, or ones of my own creation.

If I can limit the Omega-6 fats I think I will be okay.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: laterade on May 20, 2011, 02:53:53 pm
... it was giving me very vivid dreams and I was waking up with original music in my head....
That's nuts, I have some that has developed a cheese like cream from the juices. It's intimidating to look at. :o
I could use a trip though.  ;D
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: laterade on May 25, 2011, 02:53:57 pm
btw, I cut out the starch. It was good for a while, but last night I made the decision to give all raw another chance.
The weight gain made me optimistic, while other factors were ignored until recently.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: HIT_it_RAW on May 25, 2011, 07:46:42 pm
A month ago, I was losing too much weight and feeling weak so I added in non-glutenous whole grains to my diet. That was a mistake. Carb cravings took over and soon I was eating pasta, sugar, beer, just about everything. Over the past month I have felt terrible but unable to make changes. The only food I was eating that was supplying adequate nutrition was raw milk and raw milk kefir.
I know what you mean. I tried eating a bit of cooked starch (french bread) a while ago and immidiatly got massive carb cravings. Fortunately I could control myself somewhat and only ate crap for one day. The next day I overate (on purpose) on fruits to get rid of the carb cravings. After that I ate meat again and all was fine. Those refined carbs are so very addictive.

For me VLC/ZC doesn't work either. I eat ~50-80grms of carb a day from fruits/raw kefir. That way I feel fine. Stil is very low carb compared to your average SAD diet. I noticed, like many, that I don't crave carb if i eat a lot of fat. Luckily I also digest dairy well so I can eat lots of raw butter(delicious).

Maybe eating more fruits/fat works for you too to keep carb cravings down. AV's nut formula is pretty sweet too!
Title: Update
Post by: magnetic on July 24, 2011, 08:54:24 am
I had a bad spell eating SAD food, not terrible though as I continued eating cooked grass-fed beef, wild fish, raw grass-fed dairy, and so on. I was not doing well on the raw paleo diet I was eating, I had no appetite and was losing weight rapidly. I have put a good 20 lbs back on. I was reading posts, or maybe it was a journal by "The Bear." He said that he is never hungry eating RZC. This was my problem, and the reason behind my weight loss. I thought I should only eat when hungry. But if I am never hungry when eating RZC then it makes no sense to wait for hunger to eat. I am going to try RZC again, and make sure I eat enough to maintain my weight. I have more variety of meats now as well. I never felt better than when I was eating little or no carbs, so if I can maintain my weight I think all will go well. I have been transitioning from SAD to raw paleo, by eating cooked paleo the last week. Tommorrow or Monday I am starting raw paleo, RZC.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 24, 2011, 09:11:01 am
I know what you mean. I tried eating a bit of cooked starch (french bread) a while ago and immidiatly got massive carb cravings. Fortunately I could control myself somewhat and only ate crap for one day. The next day I overate (on purpose) on fruits to get rid of the carb cravings. After that I ate meat again and all was fine. Those refined carbs are so very addictive.

For me VLC/ZC doesn't work either. I eat ~50-80grms of carb a day from fruits/raw kefir. That way I feel fine. Stil is very low carb compared to your average SAD diet. I noticed, like many, that I don't crave carb if i eat a lot of fat. Luckily I also digest dairy well so I can eat lots of raw butter(delicious).

Maybe eating more fruits/fat works for you too to keep carb cravings down. AV's nut formula is pretty sweet too!

I have tried LC/VLC but any amount of carbs throws off my desire for meat (I have none). VLC leads to LC leads to moderate carbs, then high/nothing but carbs. I may eat some "carb foods" in the future, but for now I need to try ZC for an extended time.

I drank raw milk kefir for the past few months, 2 cups every day, that I made at home. I think it does have addictive qualities (re: opioids), and leads to the same chain of actions listed above (I would be happy drinking nothing but raw kefir every day if I were to follow my "instincts"). So I am eliminating dairy as well.
Title: First Day RZC
Post by: magnetic on July 26, 2011, 09:39:26 am
Today was my first day eating RZC. The day before I had 2 cups of grass-fed raw milk kefir and 1/3 coconut + coconut milk for breakfast. Later in the day I had some buffalo marrow bone stock (with lots of fat in it) with cooked vegetables (carrots, onions, garlic and radishes) and spinach cooked in pastured pork lard. Now I have nothing but raw meats and fish to eat.

I didn't break my fast until a few hours after I got home from work, at about 8pm. I was not hungry during the day, which is likely due to the low amount of carbohydrates and high amount of fat that I have been eating in the past week, transitioning to RZC. I had plenty of energy during the day, except in the afternoon when I was a little tired and could have taken a nap. I always nap on my day off. I think that if I could, I would nap every day in the afternoon. But work gets in the way so I have no way of knowing what a more natural sleep schedule would look like for me.

I must have drank 2 liters of water today, it was very hot (about 85 to 90 Fahrenheit) and my work does not have air-conditioning.

For my meal tonight I ate a good amount of heart (maybe 1/5 lb.) along with about a pound of Slanker's High Fat Ground Beef (78%/22%). I enjoyed it and hope it will sustain me until tomorrow night. I have not noticed any physical changes other than a general feeling of well-being, which I attribute to eating LC in general over the past week. But as I am now eating ZC I expect to experience physical/mental/emotional changes.

I finished my meal over 1 hour ago and it is digesting with ease, no discomfort whatsoever. If I had eaten the equivalent amount of cooked meat my stomach would likely be throbbing right now.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 27, 2011, 07:05:26 am
I had a little less energy today. I have been walking to and from work, it is about 3.5 miles round trip. I was a little exhausted and very hungry when I got home. Again, I did not eat all day, and I was not hungry until late afternoon. I ate the same as yesterday, but also 3 raw free-range chicken eggs. I ate until I was very full. My energy was a little low during the day, at least lower than yesterday. I expect my body is in ketosis, it has been 48 hours since I have eaten any food with significant carbohydrates in them. I don't know how long that takes. I am going to read more about what others refer to as becoming "keto-adapted," as this naturally intrigues me. My mood has been steady, so the depression has remained at-bay.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 28, 2011, 08:05:12 am
Today I had a bit more energy than yesterday, which must be due to the slightly larger meal that I ate last night. I think that I still have an energy deficit from not eating enough at my meal to give me energy until the next evening. Hunger struck a little earlier than yesterday. I was very hungry by the time I got home. I ate 4 eggs, a pound of high fat beef with extra fat added and about 1/4 pound of buffalo heart. I am very full and it will be interesting to see when hunger returns tomorrow. I had my first bowel movement in 3 days this evening. It was diarreah-like but only mildly discomforting.

I am still adapting to my current metabolic state. I read in a textbook on metabolism that the human brain uses more ketones only gradually, rising to 75% after 40 days of fasting (which I assume is the metabolic state I am in or entering). There was no further information on whether the brain continues to use more ketones and what the upper limit is (or conversely, the lower limit for necessary glucose).
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 28, 2011, 06:47:38 pm
I woke up fully rested and with a lot of energy today. I did wake up after only 4 hours sleep, but I was able to get back to sleep after about 10 minutes. This is the first day I feel fully rested in the morning in a few weeks. I hope it continues.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 29, 2011, 07:40:42 pm
Yesterday my energy was the same as the day before. My mood was steady, not high but not low either. I had a bowel movement in the morning, a Type 3 on the Bristol Stool Scale and a very dark brown color. At times I have experienced what feels like a shortness of breath, but it passes quickly. I at about the same amount as the day before, but I did not feel as full. Maybe my stomach is adapting to eating such a large volume of food in one sitting. I also drank about 8 cups of water yesterday. This morning I had another bowel movement, which appeared the same as yesterday's, but larger. I am not sure if they are my meals from before eating RZC or bodily waste from burning fat, but I do not think that they are from my raw meat meals; the transit time would have been very fast.

Last night I ate the last of my 78/22 ground beef from Slanker's. I have 20 lbs. of grass-fed ground beef from a local farmer that I was getting raw grass-fed milk from. I do not know the fat content of the beef though, so I will have to experiment a little to make sure I am getting adequate fat and not too much protein (if that is possible). From what I understand, excess protein is converted into glucose, and protein requires the most energy to digest, which are both reasons I want to eat a moderate protein, high fat diet.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 30, 2011, 08:03:35 pm
Yesterday I had good energy and my mood was elevated. I ate 2 big kefir grains around noon. They were left over from making raw milk kefir and I could not find anyone to take them so I just rinsed them off and ate them. For my evening meal I ate 1 lb. of yellowfin tuna, 2 chicken eggs, then a dozen raw oysters a few hours later.  I also spent an hour at the beach in the sun, but was driven off by biting flies in the end. I did not have a bowel movement. I feel like I am getting pretty used to eating one meal a day. The only reason for the spacing in my eating yesterday is that it took me a long time to get the oysters all opened. Last night I ate only when I started getting hungry (around 6pm), whereas the last four days I noticed hunger creeping in earlier in the day (usually around 3pm) and I was really hungry by the time I ate (between 6pm and 8pm). Perhaps my body is learning to use the food I am giving it to last longer, so it no longer "expects" to get more food earlier in the day.

Yellowfin tuna is 92% protein and 8% fat:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/finfish-and-shellfish-products/4150/2

Eggs are 35% protein, 63% fat and 2% carbs:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/111/2

Oysters are 44% protein, 33% fat and 23% carbs:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/finfish-and-shellfish-products/4189/2

So my food was lower in fat and higher in carbs than it has been. I did not realize how much carbohydrate oysters are! I did know that scallops, one of my favorite seafoods, are high in carbs. Well, tonight I am having beef, beef fat and liver.

I added it up and I ate 6-7g of carbohydrates yesterday.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 31, 2011, 06:36:47 am
Today my energy was a little lower, I think this is due to my meal yesterday being low in fat. Tonight I ate a pound of beef with a good 1/8 lb. of fat added (I estimate), and 1/5 lb. of liver.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on July 31, 2011, 11:07:37 pm
No bowel movements yesterday, but I had one this morning. It was large (bulky), somewhere between a 3 and a 4 on the BSS, and a bit moist. I have good energy, better than yesterday, which I attribute to the extra fat I ate with my meal last night. I have been sleeping well, around 8 hours a night.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 01, 2011, 09:36:00 am
Tonight's meal was the same as yesterday's, eaten a little later because I was not hungry until later. I am going to place an order soon for grass-fed meat/organ mix and marrow bones, which will be my food for awhile, once I have exhausted the ground beef, beef and pork organs, ground pork, and wild fish in my freezer. I don't have much fat so I am going to order some suet to eat with the meat in my freezer. I really like fatty meals and want to settle on a regimen that's 80-85% fat for awhile and see how I feel. I also ordered a scale so I can weigh my food and have a better idea of how much I am eating.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 02, 2011, 06:52:23 am
I ate much the same meal today as yesterday, but a bit more liver and more fat. No bowel movements. I put in an order for ground beef and bone marrow. Energy was pretty good. Since I ate a bit more than yesterday it will be interesting to see how my energy is tomorrow. I have been increasing my caloric intake a little each day by adding extra fat. Once I can go a whole day, have high energy and not be hungry at my normal feeding time (6-7pm) I will know I am eating enough fat, and can back off a bit on the amount of the previous day. Then I might weigh the food until I get a better feeling for how much to eat. The volume is far less than what I am used to (SAD).
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 02, 2011, 08:09:00 pm
I finished reading Lex's journal last night (currently at 136 pages, 1353 posts). It was an interesting read.

One thing he mentions is that for him, energy levels have more to do with mood than anything else. While this may be true for him, I find that energy levels and mood are completely disconnected. I can have a high mood and low energy, or low mood and high energy, and many variations in-between. He has been eating ZC for much longer, however. It may be individual (biological) differences between us, subtle differences in our diet, or the fact that I have not been eating ZC for long. Time may tell.

I did not see any mention of depression in his journal either, so we do not have that in common (I think). My reason for eating this was is that it is the only thing that seems to help with my depression (as evidenced by eating LC/VLC). I have not tried any prescription drugs or herbs, nor do I have any desire to take them (and I do have health insurance). No animal gets depressed (the mother that loses its child is only temporarily saddened). I theorize that if I eat the diet that my physiology has evolved to process then that might alleviate or extinguish my mental problems. For me, depression is extremely debilitating, more so as my diet approximates a standard western diet (high in grains, legumes and dairy).

I have been eating RZC for a week now. I feel good. But it is too early to tell whether this way of eating will solve my problem with depression.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: Busgrw on August 02, 2011, 08:28:55 pm
I finished reading Lex's journal last night (currently at 136 pages, 1353 posts). It was an interesting read.

One thing he mentions is that for him, energy levels have more to do with mood than anything else. While this may be true for him, I find that energy levels and mood are completely disconnected. I can have a high mood and low energy, or low mood and high energy, and many variations in-between. He has been eating ZC for much longer, however. It may be individual (biological) differences between us, subtle differences in our diet, or the fact that I have not been eating ZC for long. Time may tell.

I did not see any mention of depression in his journal either, so we do not have that in common (I think). My reason for eating this was is that it is the only thing that seems to help with my depression (as evidenced by eating LC/VLC). I have not tried any prescription drugs or herbs, nor do I have any desire to take them (and I do have health insurance). No animal gets depressed (the mother that loses its child is only temporarily saddened). I theorize that if I eat the diet that my physiology has evolved to process then that might alleviate or extinguish my mental problems. For me, depression is extremely debilitating, more so as my diet approximates a standard western diet (high in grains, legumes and dairy).

I have been eating RZC for a week now. I feel good. But it is too early to tell whether this way of eating will solve my problem with depression.

Stick at it Magnetic. You're doing a brilliant job and I for one am enjoying your posts. Hope you get all the health and happiness you search for.  ;)
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 02, 2011, 08:49:44 pm
Stick at it Magnetic. You're doing a brilliant job and I for one am enjoying your posts. Hope you get all the health and happiness you search for.  ;)

Thank you for the words of support. Only time will tell whether my chosen diet is successful, so I thought it would be a good idea to post regularly so that I do not fool myself about what I am doing.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 03, 2011, 07:24:07 am
I wanted to note that I have experienced headache-like symptoms. But unlike actual headaches, they never fully develop and always go away within 15-20 minutes. I have been getting them on average every other day since I started eating RZC. Otherwise, I have not had problems with headaches in years. I used to get migraines a lot but some change I made in the past ended those. It was either quitting smoking or cutting down on sugar.

Also, I remember reading (I think it was in Lex's journal) about small, hard deposits behind the lower front teeth. It supposedly is calcium (if I remember correctly). Well, I can feel such deposits with my tongue, they have been there for a few days now. Not sure what to do (if anything). Maybe they will go away eventually. I am going to take a picture of my rotting gums to post here, as I am curious if they will show improvement eating RZC.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: eveheart on August 03, 2011, 09:54:45 am
Also, I remember reading (I think it was in Lex's journal) about small, hard deposits behind the lower front teeth. It supposedly is calcium (if I remember correctly). Well, I can feel such deposits with my tongue, they have been there for a few days now. Not sure what to do (if anything). Maybe they will go away eventually. I am going to take a picture of my rotting gums to post here, as I am curious if they will show improvement eating RZC.

Those deposits sound like dental calculus. Are you against cleaning your own teeth or having your teeth cleaned by a dentist? I believe that rotting gums can be a source of toxins to your own body, and you can pass toxic dental bacteria to others by kissing.

I had a lot of gum problems in the past. I believe that, if I had had a better diet, dental problems would have never started. My father lost his teeth at 40 due to bad dental hygiene. Losing my first tooth to root decay convinced me that I wanted to take better care of my teeth. I have practiced dental self-sufficiency for almost a decade from information I learned at mizar5.com (http://mizar5.com). I get low-cost dental cleanings with my dental insurance, and the dentist always compliments my good dental hygiene.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 04, 2011, 08:40:20 am
Those deposits sound like dental calculus. Are you against cleaning your own teeth or having your teeth cleaned by a dentist? I believe that rotting gums can be a source of toxins to your own body, and you can pass toxic dental bacteria to others by kissing.

I have some tooth decay, which I am hoping can be halted or reversed by eating RZC. I dont't know if I need to clean them eating this was, there is almost no sugar in my diet. Just the tiny amount of glycogen here and there in liver and such.

I had a lot of gum problems in the past. I believe that, if I had had a better diet, dental problems would have never started. My father lost his teeth at 40 due to bad dental hygiene. Losing my first tooth to root decay convinced me that I wanted to take better care of my teeth. I have practiced dental self-sufficiency for almost a decade from information I learned at mizar5.com (http://mizar5.com). I get low-cost dental cleanings with my dental insurance, and the dentist always compliments my good dental hygiene.

I have not been to a dentist or a doctor since I was 18 or 19 years old. I am now 32 years old. If my diet is healthy I should be able to avoid such practicioners for another decade. I do want to see a doctor to have him check my various vitals.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 04, 2011, 08:47:22 am
Tonight I ate a pound of 22% fat beef, about 3-4 oz. of buffalo heart and a lot of bone marrow (about 1/3 lb.) from a buffalo leg bone. The bone marrow was extremely rich, it has been awhile since I had raw marrow, I forgot how delicious it is. The only thing I can compare it to is eating butter.

I had good energy and my mood today was excellent. Tomorrow I am getting a large shipment of meat and fat so I should be set on food for awhile. I also should be getting a scale soon so I will have more accurate records of what I am eating.

I also have been looking into getting beef brains. I have contacted several farmers and I might have to talk to some USDA inspectors. I am prepared to pay a lawyer to write up something for me if I meet a lot of resistance from the inspector. Hopefully I can find a reliable source.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 05, 2011, 08:35:32 am
I felt great today, mentally and physically. I ate the same as yesterday. No bowel movements since the morning of the 31st of July, over 4 days now. I expected this so I am not surprised. I have been feeding my cat a raw meat diet and he only goes about once a week.

I should mention that I have been drinking about 2 liters of water a day since I started eating RZC. I am not sure how much I was drinking before, but I have been keeping track since I started eating this way. I am usually thirstiest in the morning and drink a lot of water then, but the amount tapers off by the afternoon. And I never drink water and am not thirsty after my meal, unless I go to sleep at a late time.

My sleep has been a little erratic due to socializing with friends, I have lost a few hours here and there from staying up late. Tomorrow I do not have to work so I will probably take a nap in the afternoon and get recharged. I usually want to take naps in the afternoon but cannot on days when I work.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 06, 2011, 12:11:01 am
I had a bowel movement today around noon. It was pretty normal looking, a type 3, normal dark brown color. It has been just over 5 days since my last BM. Everything seems fine without fiber so far.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 06, 2011, 08:02:43 am
I ate a half pound of 78/22 ground beef along with 2 large pieces of heart (about 8 oz.), and about 1/3 lb. of bone marrow, washed down with blood from the heart. It was very satisfying. I felt great all day, doing some strength exercises earlier in the day. My mood is very good. The higher amount of fat I have been eating keeps hunger at bay for a long time. I was hungry today but not nearly as hungry as yesterday or the day before. If this continues I will not be hungry until Sunday. If that happens I may cut down on the fat a little, but for now I am enjoying it.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 07, 2011, 06:57:47 am
I had another one of those "fake headaches" today. It was notable only because it lasted a little longer, about 1.5 hours. But it went away without developing into anything seriously painful. My guess is that my brain exhausts my liver's store of glucose, then becomes glucose-starved and that is when I begin to feel a "headache." Eventually, my body gets the glucose by breaking down fat or from the protein in last night's meal (through gluconeogenesis). The glucose is fed to my brain and the "headache" goes away.

I am not sure if that is what is happening, it is really just a guess.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 07, 2011, 07:49:06 am
So my estimates of the amount of marrow in my marrow bones was incorrect. I was told by the vendor that they were about 1/3 marrow, which might be correct by volume. By weight, the number is much different. I got my scale recently, though, so now my food can be weighed.

I ate:

3 oz. of marrow which was all of the marrow in 17 oz. of beef leg marrow bones
16 oz. of 78/22 high fat ground beef
3 oz. of beef heart

According to NutritionData, this is 1950 calories, broken down as 80% fat and 20% protein. It includes 93g of protein and 172g of fat, with 0.1g of carbohydrates. It is only 88% of the calculated necessary calories for my body, so I may need to increase my food intake. I do notice that hunger begins to creep in a few hours before my meal. I just calculated that 3 raw eggs brings me up to 98% of caloric requirements, so I am going to eat 3 eggs now and see if hunger is kept at bay a little longer tomorrow.

EDIT: I am using the NutritionData information for suet because there is no entry for marrow. I may make a customized entry for marrow, if I can get good data to use. Fitday has elk marrow, which might work for this. Ounce per ounce, raw marrow has a little more fat and calories, and more protein than suet according to Fitday.

EDIT: With the eggs added, I am at:
2165 calories (98% of DV)
78% fat, 22% protein cals
112g protein
187g fat
1.3g carbohydrate
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: Tsurugi_Oni on August 08, 2011, 01:58:24 am
  Hey chump =P
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 08, 2011, 03:05:34 am
  Hey chump =P

Well hello, I thought you might lurk here.  ;)
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: Tsurugi_Oni on August 08, 2011, 04:03:07 am
  Hehe very rarey, but I do hunt for some good information here occasionally =]. 

  I decided to hop on to check ur journal.  Love reading dietary journals.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 08, 2011, 08:15:03 pm
  Hehe very rarey, but I do hunt for some good information here occasionally =]. 

  I decided to hop on to check ur journal.  Love reading dietary journals.

It's boring but it's something. I hope to get more gadgets in the future so that I can post more information, pictures, etc. Also, some blood work, testing for nutrients and all of that would make things more interesting.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 08, 2011, 08:22:12 pm
Yesterday I did not have a "headache", I had loads of energy, my mood was great. I did not get hungry until about 7pm, and my meal times have been between 6pm and 8pm, so it seems like the extra eggs I ate the day before helped stave off hunger until meal time. I had a good meal last night, lots of marrow, heart and ground beef. I did not get to measure it because I was away from home. But I ate more heart than usual, about a double serving (6 oz. instead of 3 oz.). I should be satisfied all day today. No bowel movements since the last one. I slept on a futon instead of the floor (my usual "bed"). I did not sleep as well on the futon, but maybe I will get used to it.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 09, 2011, 06:30:14 pm
The extra heart I ate 2 days ago did not sustain me yesterday like the eggs I ate 3 days ago. I was hungry beginning at 4pm. Heart is very lean (68% protein, 32% fat) and has little fat, whereas eggs have a good amount of fat (35% protein, 63% fat and 2% carbs). And 3 eggs have more calories than 3 oz. of beef heart. Of course I could eat extra protein for calories, but (1) I prefer fat (2) fat is more easily digested than protein and (3) I am already consuming more than 100g of protein a day, which should be enough.

I ate late yesterday because I forgot to thaw out my organ meat in advance. My meal was eaten around 10pm instead of between 6pm and 8pm. I ate extra beef marrow, 4.5 oz. instead of 3 oz. Other than that I ate a pound of ground beef and 3 oz. of liver. This is a little low calorie-wise. I might bring eggs to work today in case I get hungry.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 10, 2011, 07:54:48 pm
Yesterday my energy and mood were good (or should I say, sufficiently high?). I experienced some stressful situations recently and I seem to be handling stress better, as observed by others. In the past, stressful situations would often be a catalyst for bouts of depression.

I ate lots of marrow fat yesterday, 6 oz., along with 1lb. ground beef and 3 oz. liver. That's approximately 2300 calories, 115g protein, 203g fat and 3.3g carbohydrates. This is more fat than I have eaten before in one sitting. I shouldn't be hungry until my meal tonight, around 8-9pm.

I had a bowel movement this morning. I was expecting one soon, based on my last one occurring 5 days after the previous one. Today's bowel movement occurred 4 days after the previous one.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 11, 2011, 06:48:15 am
I had a bowel movement this morning.

I should add that it was maybe 5 inches long, type 3/4 on the BSS.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 11, 2011, 07:56:32 am
http://www.ketotic.org/2011/05/total-ketogenic-ratio-tkr.html (http://www.ketotic.org/2011/05/total-ketogenic-ratio-tkr.html) has some interesting equations that give an estimate of the level of ketosis based on macronutrient intake. My KR has been between 2.6 and 2.7 for most days over the past 2 weeks. If I roughly halved my protein and increased my fat intake to make up for the difference in calories, KR would just exceed 4. This is what I came up with playing with the numbers in a spreadsheet.

http://www.iom.edu/Global/News%20Announcements/~/media/C5CD2DD7840544979A549EC47E56A02B.ashx (http://www.iom.edu/Global/News%20Announcements/~/media/C5CD2DD7840544979A549EC47E56A02B.ashx) gives USDA suggested macronutrient intakes. For me, a male aged 32, the recommendation is 130g carbohydrates, 20-35g of fat and 56g of protein. From the low-end for fat to the high end, the "recommended" KR for me is then: 0.26 < KR < 0.34.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 11, 2011, 09:50:50 am
Tonight I ate 1 lb. of raw grass-fed beef, 5 oz. of raw grass-fed liver, and 7 oz. of raw beef marrow.

The macronutrients are: 129g protein, 229g fat, 5.4g carbohydrate. 2610 calories.
KR=2.57

This is more calories than I have been eating, due to extra fat. I might not even be hungry tomorrow evening, unless I do extra work.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 12, 2011, 08:47:04 pm
Yesterday's meal was a bit lighter. I ate late as I did not get hungry until late, around 10pm. This is obviously due to the very large amount of fat I ate the day before (7 ounces). My meal yesterday night was: 1 lb. of ground beef, 3 oz. liver and 4 oz. marrow.

The macronutrients are: 112g protein, 156g fat, 3.3g carbohydrate. 1865 calories.
KR=2.29

I have had none of the "fake headaches" mentioned above since August 7, which is now 5 days. I have experienced slight muscle soreness at times, but nothing extreme, at least I do not think it is as bad as described by others. If our bodies can maintain some of the changes from past periods of fasting or eating very low carb, such as increased metabolic flexibility from the production of mitochondria and other cellular adaptations to metabolism with less dietary glucose, then I am finding the switch to becoming keto-adapted easier in part because of past periods of eating very low carb.

According to research cited in this article at Gnolls.org,http://www.gnolls.org/1984/the-science-behind-the-low-carb-flu-and-how-to-regain-your-metabolic-flexibility/ (http://www.gnolls.org/1984/the-science-behind-the-low-carb-flu-and-how-to-regain-your-metabolic-flexibility/), exercise is important for regaining metabolic flexibility. It is a very interesting article, as are all of the articles on the site.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 12, 2011, 09:07:41 pm
I just had a BM, and it was pretty much identical to the last one, no pain or anything. I was surprised because they were spaced out 5 days and 4 days, for the last two. The last one was 2 days ago. I guess the fat I am eating is doing what it is supposed to do.

This article on natural defecation is interesting: http://www.gutsense.org/gutsense/constipation.html (http://www.gutsense.org/gutsense/constipation.html). From the article:

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There is only one reliable way to prevent the drying up of stools and ensuing costivity — move your bowels after each major meal, because the act of eating ALWAYS initiates the sequence of events that stimulate defecation. These successive unconscious events are called, respectively, the gastrocolic reflex, peristaltic mass movement, and the defecation urge. That’s how our gut is wired by nature to move the bowels.

Unfortunately for most Westerners, once the potty training begins, the parents and teachers work really hard to unwire this miracle of nature. That’s so that you can finally leave the house without a diaper and sit through a class without interrupting it. It’s possible because the final stage of defecation doesn’t take place until you consciously permit it by relaxing your external anal sphincter.

Wikipedia, on the gastrocolic reflex:

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The gastrocolic reflex or gastrocolic response is one of a number of physiological reflexes controlling the motility, or peristalsis, of the gastrointestinal tract. It involves an increase in motility of the colon in response to stretch in the stomach and byproducts of digestion in the small intestine. Thus, this reflex is responsible for the urge to defecate following a meal. The small intestine also shows a similar motility response. The gastrocolic reflex helps make room for more food.

I have found that I am always having bowel movements in the morning, and I eat late and go to sleep soon after eating, so the two are close together, since most of the time separating eating and having a bowel movement is sleep, a time when my body "shuts down."
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 12, 2011, 09:26:48 pm
My mouth is usually quite dry in the morning, which I have been interpreting as thirst. It returns throughout the day, and I drink water to slake my thirst. But I am wondering if my diet is deficient in salt. I have some Himalayan Sea Salt, I think I will begin taking a teaspoon (6g) a day. Salt deficiency can lead to hypothyroidism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothyroidism#Signs_and_symptoms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothyroidism#Signs_and_symptoms). Some of the symptoms could be confused with symptoms of early ketosis, and I do not want to confuse the two. My diet has been very low in salt for over 2 weeks now, with the exception of the oysters and scallops that I ate at the beginning of the current experiment. Also, my body does not know what I am drinking, it only knows to tell my body to drink. In the paleolithic world my thirst would have been quenched not by tap water, but by water from rivers, lakes, springs, dew on leaves, etc. So I would have been consuming mineral-rich water, not sterile, fluoridated and chlorinated water.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: miles on August 12, 2011, 10:50:54 pm
Tap-water, and even the mineral water from the stores that I used to buy, does not hydrate me alone. I feel like I also need to eat some fruit or veg, even though I'm just thirsty and not hungry - I dislike this.

However, when I was drinking from lakes and rivers for 2-3 months I did not have this problem... It was brilliant, I just drank as much as I felt like, until I was no longer thirsty. It would hydrate me and I would not feel thirsty any more for a long time.

Tap water on the other hand tastes horrible and does not hydrate me unless I also eat some vegetation, and often makes me feel even more thirsty than I did beforehand - causing pain to my throat, headache etc... It feels like it causes problems with my digestion of food as well.

After I eat meat, I get thirsty 30mins-1hr afterwards... Here I have to drink some water and eat some veg(which messes up the digestion of the meat), if I were to just drink water I would feel I needed to keep on drinking, and would feel more thirsty the more I drank - but drinking from lakes/rivers I just drank as much as I felt like and felt perfectly hydrated.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: TylerDurden on August 13, 2011, 12:29:25 am
I feel the same re London tapwater, can't stand the stuff and my appetite disappears if I drink it. My solution was to drink alkaline mineral water(PH 7.8 to 8.4) as the more PH neutral mineral waters were also a bit useless in my case.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 13, 2011, 01:19:17 am
I have been thinking about sourcing some water, and as I learn more I am doubtful whether "spring water" sold in plastic bottles is any better than tap water, or worth the extra money. I am leaning more towards mineral water in glass bottles, which may be very expensive, possibly too expensive. I have not looked at prices anywhere yet. I am by a river... the Detroit River. I don't think that water would be very good to drink, no better than Detroit tap water.

There is Silver Spring in Northville, http://www.findaspring.com/category/usa/michigan/ (http://www.findaspring.com/category/usa/michigan/), I suppose I could make regular trips and fill up jugs of water. I would consider paying the owner of a private spring to fill up glass jugs of water every week, but I do not want to spend a lot of time and (gas) money on obtaining water.

I do not know if I would benefit health-wise because I have been drinking tap water for years. But I will report if I notice anything positive, and if not I still think that mineral water will be a lot healthier for long-term health.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 13, 2011, 05:51:06 am
I purchased a case of Ferrarelle mineral water, which is 12 750mL bottles. I started my search at some upscale grocers, which only carried Perrier and Pellegrino, at $2.39 a bottle. Neither listed the mineral contents. I next tried a beer and wine specialty store, which had the Ferrarelle, Perrier and Pellegrino, at $1.99 a bottle. I purchase Ferrarelle because it listed the mineral contents, and a case only cost $18.99. The contents lister are:

carbon dioxide at source: 2310 ppm
hydrogen carbonate: 1403 ppm
calcium: 365 ppm
silica: 86ppm
potassium: 52ppm
chloride: 20ppm
magnesium: 18ppm
sulphate: 3ppm
nitrate: 5ppm
fluoride: 1.1ppm

Nutrition Facts lists 10mg sodium and 10% daily value of calcium. Not bad, for water. Also, it lists "conductivity at 20C uS/cm 1810, pH at 18C 6.1."

This is the best water I can easily obtain right now, though I may look into ordering online of finding another local source. Also, I imagine it should be easy to precipitate the minerals out of the water and sell tablets that could be added to purified water, which would turn it into mineral water. This would mean cost savings as the consumer would not have to pay for the shipment of water in glass bottles halfway around the world. I don't know if such tablets exist, though.

According to the company's website, the water is filtered to remove arsenic, which exists at 6ppm before treatment. That is the only processing, apparently.

A little blurb on Ferrarelle mineral water: http://www.aquamaestro.com/innerview.asp?catid=6 (http://www.aquamaestro.com/innerview.asp?catid=6)
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 13, 2011, 09:57:06 am
Today my meal consisted of 1 lb. of ground beef, 3 oz. beef liver and 7.5 oz. marrow fat. I had measured 4 oz. of liver, but my cat stole some while it was warming up on the plate. And that was after I put a big 1 oz. piece in his bowl. He loves liver.

Food totals are 118g protein, 239g fat and 3.3g carbohydrate, 2646 calories, KR=2.82

This is the highest the ketogenic ratio has been.

I have noticed that sometimes the marrow is very moist, other times very dry and crumbly, but most often in between, with a consistency either chalky or buttery. I prefer it moist and slimy and wish it was all like that. I am not sure what makes it dry, perhaps it is old and has dried out in the freezer?
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: miles on August 13, 2011, 10:43:20 am
The long thin bone has the moist marrow and the short wide bone has the dry marrow. I prefer the dry marrow.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 13, 2011, 06:46:12 pm
The long thin bone has the moist marrow and the short wide bone has the dry marrow. I prefer the dry marrow.

Thanks, so much knowledge here! It is hard for me to tell the difference between the bones, they appear about the same thickness and are cut to equal lengths. It seems strange for marrow to be so dry, I assumed it was always a soft, moist solid. Are the thin ones lower leg bones (tibia) and the thick ones upper leg bones (femur)? I don't know if they use the same names as human bones... wait I found this, from http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Anatomy_and_Physiology_of_Animals/The_Skeleton#Objectives (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Anatomy_and_Physiology_of_Animals/The_Skeleton#Objectives):

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Anatomy_and_physiology_of_animals_Mamalian_skeleton.jpg)

You have humerus, radius, ulna, femur, tibia and fibula, for leg bones.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: miles on August 13, 2011, 07:25:49 pm
(http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/12300/12383/skeletoncow_12383_lg.gif)

Femur is short and wide, tibia/fibula is long and narrow.

http://www6.ufrgs.br/favet/imunovet/molecular_immunology/organsimmune.html

Maybe this is why the marrow is different. The femur marrow has more recently changed from red-yellow it would appear.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 14, 2011, 10:14:59 am
I noticed that I have not been posting about my mood and energy. Both have been excellent for the past several days. I am not going to post about them unless I experience any noticeable shifts or changes. I may have hit a plateau or I may be at a peak, I do not know.

Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 2 oz. beef liver, 3 oz. beef heart, 7 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 127g protein, 230g fat and 2.3g carbohydrate. 2592 calories, 80% fat, 20% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.68

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water. One in the morning, one in the afternoon and one a few hours before my meal.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 15, 2011, 08:48:53 am
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 2 oz. beef heart, 9 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 114g protein, 274g fat and 0.1g carbohydrate. 2930 calories, 84% fat, 16% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=3.19

I also drank 2 750mL bottles of mineral water in the morning. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 16, 2011, 06:23:23 pm
Yesterday, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 2 oz. beef heart, 6 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 128g protein, 242g fat and 0.3g carbohydrate. 2729 calories, 80% fat, 20% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.80

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I had a bowel movement in the morning, 3 days after my last one. It was more of a type 4 than 3, passed easy, a brown/gray color.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 16, 2011, 07:24:12 pm
I started sun-gazing yesterday. It was too intense for me to look directly at the sun, so I looked just to either side. I gazed for about 30 seconds. It was refreshing and only temporarily disorienting (in terms of vision). I did it again this morning, I think for a little longer, and this time looking directly at the sun a little. It was easier, not as intense as yesterday. Both times I gazed when the sun had just risen over the horizon (which is blocked by trees and buildings in the distance). I am going to continue this as part of my morning routine, which also includes tongue scraping an drinking a bottle of Ferrarelle mineral water.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 17, 2011, 07:58:56 am
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 3 oz. beef heart, 7.5 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 116g protein, 240g fat and 0.1g carbohydrate. 2627 calories, 82% fat, 18% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.95

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I had a bowel movement shortly after dinner. It was a 3 on the BSS, 4-5 inches and brown, nothing unusual. I suppose my gastrocolic reflex is working normally. This article illustrates the difference between normal GR and GR for individuals with IBS:
http://www.helpforibs.com/footer/gastrocolic.asp (http://www.helpforibs.com/footer/gastrocolic.asp)

I never had IBS, but I have never been so regular as I am on my current diet. And there is never any need to wipe (really, believe me).
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 18, 2011, 10:44:03 am
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 3 oz. beef heart, 7.5 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 116g protein, 240g fat and 0.1g carbohydrate. 2627 calories, 82% fat, 18% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.95

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I guess I could have said "same meal as yesterday." My food was frozen this morning, so I put it out for a few hours. I was going to put it back in the fridge but I forgot. So it was warm and ready when I got home from work. I liked it better, and the marrow was very wet, not dry at all.

My mouth is still quite dry in the morning, I am going to drink an extra bottle of mineral water, making it 4 750mL bottles a day, for 3L total.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 18, 2011, 08:54:23 pm
I had a BM this morning. Same as the last one.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 19, 2011, 07:38:57 am
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 3 oz. beef heart, 10 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 121g protein, 299g fat and 0.1g carbohydrate. 3185 calories, 85% fat, 15% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=3.24

I also drank 4 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I only have 2 more days of marrow left, I have been going through it much faster than I expected. I thought it would last a month. I started this experiment July 25th, and thought the marrow would last until August 25th. I also have only 2 days of the regular grass-fed beef. I have 20 pounds of high-fat grass fed beef, 2 lbs. of ground buffalo, 1 lb. of buffalo liver, 6 lbs. of ground pork and 2 lbs. of pork liver, and 4 lbs. of salmon. So I am going to make some changes to what I am eating soon.

I ordered some more marrow, but it won't arrive until Thursday next week.

I would like to finish the buffalo and pork, as I have had it in my freezer the longest. I haven't been able to get any pork fats. I can get pastured lard, but I want to avoid cooked fats. I could just keep the pork frozen until I locate some good pork fat. I also have a little fat on my belly, which could come in handy.

I am finding that I really like organ meats, and I am considering including more organ meat and less muscle meat in my diet. If muscle meat is as difficult to tear off a carcass and eat (without aging) as some people say, then perhaps early human hunters had a diet of mostly organ meats and fats. Maybe they did not eat the difficult to chew muscle meats. I know that organ meats are easy to chew right out of the animal, based on my experience eating them the same day the animal was slaughtered.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 20, 2011, 09:17:02 am
Today, my meal consisted of 2 chicken eggs, 1 lb. ground beef, 3 oz. beef heart, 5 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 124g protein, 190g fat and 0.9g carbohydrate. 2212 calories, 77% fat, 23% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.48

I also drank 4 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I ate the eggs a few hours before my meal, because I had to leave for a few hours to pick up mineral water. The store I go to could not get Ferrarelle, so I am stuck with Pellegrino and Perrier for the next week. Hopefully, they can get some Ferrarelle next week. I am finding it difficult to drink 3L, so I am going to go back to drinking only when thirsty, which ends up being around 2.25L total of mineral water. It has been cloudy so I have not done as much sun-gazing.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 20, 2011, 07:55:06 pm
I started drinking Perrier this morning. Here is the mineral composition I found online (http://mineralwaters.org/index.php?func=disp&parval=1953 (http://mineralwaters.org/index.php?func=disp&parval=1953)) and the amount per 750mL bottle, as well as a comparison to Ferrarelle:

Acidity (pH): 5.46
Total Dissolved Solids: 475 mg/L = 356mg/750mL
Calcium: 147.3 mg/L = 110.5 mg/750mL >> Perrier has less than 1/3 as much
Magnesium: 3.4 mg/L = 2.6 mg/750mL >> Perrier has about 1/7 as much
Sodium: 9 mg/L = 6.75 mg/750mL >> none listed for Ferrarelle
Potassium: 0.6 mg/L = 0.45 mg/750mL >> Ferrarelle has about 115 times as much
Bicarbonate: 390 mg/L = 293 mg/750mL >> Ferrarelle has almost 5 times as much, it is much fizzier
Chloride: 21.5 mg/L = 16.1 mg/750mL >> only 20% less than Ferrarelle
Sulphate: 33 mg/L = 25 mg/750mL >> 11 times more than Ferrarelle
Fluoride: 0.12 mg/L = 0.09 mg/750mL >> Ferrarelle has about 10 times as much
Nitrate: 18 mg/L =13.5 mg/750mL >> Perrier has about 2.5 times more

After drinking a bottle of Perrier, I can say I definitely prefer Ferrarelle. I have a case of Perrier so I will be drinking it for the next 3-4 days. Maybe I will acquire a taste for it.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 20, 2011, 08:11:25 pm
One thing that stands out about Perrier is the relatively high levels of sulfate and nitrate. There seem to be conflicting studies regarding whether nitrate is healthful or harmful at certain levels. For instance:

Can nitrate affect adults?

Although red blood cells quickly return to normal, some health conditions can make people more susceptible to health problems from nitrate. Individuals with the following health conditions should not drink water with more than 10 mg/L of nitrate:

    * Individuals who don’t have enough stomach acids.
    * Individuals with an inherited lack of the enzyme that converts affected red blood cells back to normal (methemoglobin reductase).
    * Women who are pregnant or trying to become pregnant. High nitrate levels may increase the risk of spontaneous abortion or certain birth defects.
(http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/dw/Programs/nitrate.htm (http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/dw/Programs/nitrate.htm))


For half a century, inorganic nitrate has been associated with negative health effects, but more recently, evidence of the contrary has mounted. In the 1990s, a research group at Karolinska Institutet demonstrated how the body can convert nitrate to NO, a molecule involved in many important bodily functions, such as blood pressure regulation, the immune defence and cell metabolism. These compounds can ameliorate mitochondrial dysfunction related diseases, The results, which are published in Cell Metabolism, are of sports-physiological interest, as they show that nitrate reduces oxygen consumption during physical exercise; however, they are also of potential significance to diseases involving mitochondrial dysfunction, such as diabetes and cardiovascular disease. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrate#Human_health_effects)

For sulphate...

Adverse effects have been noted in individuals whose drinking water source contains high levels of inorganic sulfate. Osmotic diarrhea resulting from unabsorbed sulfate has been described and may be of particular concern in infants consuming fluids derived from water sources with high levels of sulfate. Some association between increased hydrogen sulfide production and risk of ulcerative colitis has been noted as well, but has not been adequately evaluated. Overall, there is insufficient information available to set a Tolerable Upper Intake Level for sulfate. (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10925&page=424 (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10925&page=424))

Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 21, 2011, 08:43:26 am
Today, my meal consisted of 1 lb. ground beef, 4 oz. buffalo liver, 7.5 oz. beef marrow fat, all raw.

That's 124g protein, 240g fat and 4.4g carbohydrate. 2684 calories, 81% fat, 19% protein, less than 1% carbs. KR=2.72

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt in the morning.

I am now out of my regular grass-fed beef and marrow bones. The only animal fat I have access to is raw grass-fed butter and pastured pig lard, so maybe I will try those. I get more marrow bones on Thursday next week.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 22, 2011, 07:16:17 am
I had a BM last night after my meal, same as usual. I also had one tonight after my meal, though this one was diarrhea-like. It only lasted a short time and was not too painful. I am not sure what caused it. Perhaps it was those eggs that I ate? Everything else has been beef until the buffalo liver I ate yesterday.

Today, my meal consisted of 13 ounces ground buffalo, 6 oz. buffalo liver, and 1 chicken egg, all raw. I also had a tiny bit of lard left over from my cooked-paleo transition to raw paleo a month ago. It was less than an ounce, about a spoonful or 1/2 ounce, I would say.

That's 114g protein, 51.3g fat and 7.1g carbohydrate. 956 calories, 48% fat, 49% protein, 3% carbs. KR=1.26

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

This is a departure from what I have been eating, but now that I am out of marrow I will have to rely on my body's store of fat for a little while. The calorie intake is low, but if my body is adapted to burning fat, it should be able to easily switch to using my belly fat that I have stored. I have a few extra pounds on my belly from eating so much marrow, now I will find out if my body is ready to use it. I am relying on mostly protein to take care of hunger.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 23, 2011, 06:30:36 am
Today, my meal consisted of 14 ounces ground buffalo, 3 oz. buffalo liver, and 2 chicken eggs, all raw.

That's 109g protein, 41.3g fat and 4.2g carbohydrate. 829 calories, 45% fat, 53% protein, 2% carbs. KR=1.22

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

What I found surprising was that I was not hungry all day, not until my meal time. I ate around 5:30pm yesterday and just after 6pm today, so my small meal yesterday was enough to keep hunger at bay. I suppose my body is using its fat stores. Today's meal was also small. I finished the buffalo and free-range chicken eggs, next on the menu will be pastured ground pork and pork liver.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 23, 2011, 07:00:17 pm
Here is a picture of my rotting gums. I have no picture to show recent improvements, but my girlfriend tells me that the pink area has expanded, the dark red areas above the teeth used to go much higher but have receded. The brown decay on the teeth used to extend several times further down on the teeth. She looked at my teeth closely back in January, before I started any kind of paleo diet and was still eating a high carb, processed food diet.

I am hoping for improvements and I will continue posting pictures as time goes on.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 24, 2011, 07:51:41 am
Today, my meal consisted of 16 ounces ground pork and 3.5 oz. pork liver, both raw.

That's 97.3g protein, 99.4g fat and 2.4g carbohydrate. 1320 calories, 68% fat, 31% protein, 1% carbs. KR=1.95

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

Again I was not hungry all day, not until my meal time. I ate just after 6pm yesterday and around 7:30pm today. I liked the ground pork but not the pork liver. It tasted okay, like beef liver but milder. But the texture was rubbery. Beef liver is moist and slimy in comparison.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 25, 2011, 10:32:42 am
Today, my meal consisted of 21 ounces of raw keta/chum salmon.

That's 118g protein, 22.2g fat and 0g carbohydrate. 706 calories, 28% fat, 72% protein, 0% carbs. KR=1.05

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

Again I was not hungry all day, not until my meal time. I ate just after 7:30pm yesterday and around 10pm today. I wasn't excited about pork, I think I will give it away to my friends or the cat. The cat loves the liver so getting rid of that will be easy.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 26, 2011, 09:22:15 am
I have been on my current diet for about a month now and I seem to be doing great.

Today I got more marrow bones. I could not get beef kidneys so I got pork kidneys. I did not mind them as much as the pork liver, but I don't like them too much either. I like ruminants much more.

For my meal I ate 3 ounces of pork kidney and 3 ounces of high-fat ground beef, and 9 ounces of marrow fat. I am going to eat adequate protein, high fat for awhile and see how I feel. My meal had 0 carbs, 235g fat and 45.3g protein, 2304 calories and KR=4.67.

With so much fat and such limited protein, my diet will be much more ketogenic. I want to stay on this for the next 2 months, at which time I will have been on an all-animal food diet for 3 months. I plan on going to a doctor and getting some tests done at that time.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 27, 2011, 06:16:55 am
Today, my meal consisted of 6 ounces high fat ground beef (78/22) and 8 ounced beef marrow, both raw.

That's 44g protein, 225g fat and 0g carbohydrate. 2211 calories, 92% fat, 8% protein, 0% carbs. KR=4.64

I also drank 4 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I am still craving carbs, completely apart from hunger. The strongest cravings are for fruit and dairy. It is strange, maybe there is something else my body needs. I want to stay eating 100% animal foods until I get my physical in November though, just to see where the numbers are at on this diet.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 27, 2011, 08:47:42 am
I have been drinking San Pellegrino for the past 4 days, I like it much better than Perrier, which has a bitter aftertaste. pH is 5.2. Here is the mineral content:

Calcium: 178mg/L
Sodium: 34.9mg/L
Potassium: 3.3mg/L
Fluoride: 0.56mg/L
Magnesium: 50.4mg/L
Bicarbonate: 194mg/L
Nitrate: 0.64mg/L
Chloride: 55.4mg/L
Copper: not detected
Sulfate: 439 mg/L
Arsenic: 0.0031
Lead: not detected
TDS: 864
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: miles on August 27, 2011, 09:25:56 am
WOW! I thought Evian(which I've been drinking now for the last few weeks) was high at 80mg calcium/L. How does that San Pellegrino stuff taste? The taste of Evian is very smooth, kind of sweet and has something of the taste of milk in it, very nice.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 27, 2011, 06:45:56 pm
WOW! I thought Evian(which I've been drinking now for the last few weeks) was high at 80mg calcium/L. How does that San Pellegrino stuff taste? The taste of Evian is very smooth, kind of sweet and has something of the taste of milk in it, very nice.

Pellegrino is sweet and sharp, but not as sharp as Ferrarelle, which I like better. The sharpness comes from the carbonation. Give it a try, it is easy to find. Ferrarelle is a bit harder to locate, my supplier is having trouble reordering it.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 27, 2011, 06:50:30 pm
I had a BM this morning, 5 1/2 days since the last one. This isn't surprising given my much lower fat intake. It was very dark brown, very heavy and concentrated. Still, no trouble passing it. If you look back, I had no bowel movements since my last high fat meal. The most fat in any meal since 5 1/2 days ago was 100g, and most meals had much lower fat intake. Last night's meal was high in fat.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 28, 2011, 07:00:29 am
Today, my meal consisted of 8 ounces high fat ground beef (78/22) and 6.5 ounced beef marrow, both raw.

That's 50.8g protein, 200g fat and 0g carbohydrate. 2019 calories, 89% fat, 11% protein, 0% carbs. KR=? (I'm not at my computer with the spreadsheet I normall use to calculate this)

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I was really weak all day, I think it must be due to my diet being more ketogenic, with the lower protein intake. I also experienced the other symptoms besides muscle soreness: shortness of breath and the "fake" headache. I increased my protein intake a bit today to see if it helps alleviate the symptoms.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 28, 2011, 06:39:55 pm
Okay, KR for my last meal was 4.11.

I had a BM this morning shortly after waking. It was gray and clay-like in appearance and consistency, a type 4 on the BSS, and it passed easily. I am not sure what accounts for this change. Maybe this was the pork that I ate? Maybe pork just looks different coming out than beef? I would like to get some activated charcoal so I can time stuff going in and coming out, and to help some friends who have constipation issues. I think I shall buy some.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 29, 2011, 07:41:51 am
Today, my meal consisted of 8 ounces high fat ground beef (78/22) and 7 ounced beef marrow, both raw.

That's 51.8g protein, 212g fat and 0g carbohydrate. 2130 calories, 90% fat, 10% protein, 0% carbs. KR=4.19

I also drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day. And I took 1 tsp. of Himalayan sea salt.

I had more energy today, I think I am meeting my protein needs.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on August 30, 2011, 07:37:22 am
I did not eat anything today.

I drank 3 750mL bottles of mineral water throughout the day.
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: RawZi on December 31, 2011, 12:40:29 am
With so much fat and such limited protein, my diet will be much more ketogenic. I want to stay on this for the next 2 months, at which time I will have been on an all-animal food diet for 3 months. I plan on going to a doctor and getting some tests done at that time.
I am still craving carbs, completely apart from hunger. The strongest cravings are for fruit and dairy. It is strange, maybe there is something else my body needs. I want to stay eating 100% animal foods until I get my physical in November though, just to see where the numbers are at on this diet.

    What's going on? Can you try to get your salt from meat?  I think there's salt in the blood and kidneys, not to mention ocean fish.  Do you eat brain or other unfrozen fats? Any poultry? What kind of high meats if any?
Title: Re: Magnetic's Journal
Post by: magnetic on December 31, 2011, 09:07:04 pm
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What's going on? Can you try to get your salt from meat?  I think there's salt in the blood and kidneys, not to mention ocean fish.  Do you eat brain or other unfrozen fats? Any poultry? What kind of high meats if any?

I reintroduced carbs into my diet, then switched to a different diet. I am eating vegetarian w/ raw animal products, a yoga or sattvic diet. I find myself unable to stomach raw flesh foods. So I am currently eating:

Raw Dairy: limited to raw grass-fed milk, yogurt, butter, ghee and cream. I do not eat any other dairy. No cheese, sour cream, kefir, etc.

Cooked vegetables: a combination of organic vegetables, typically a root vegetable and a green leafy vegetable or brassica. I have been eating lots of beets, swiss chard, collard greens, sweet potato, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, etc. I do not eat any garlic or onion, or other pungent vegetables.

I am not eating fruit or honey as it is winter here in the northern hemisphere and I am of (predominately) Northern European descent.

This is my diet 99% of the time. I use little or no spices, and no salt. I drink nothing but spring water.

Most of my protein is raw animal protein from grass-fed animals, since I do not eat legumes, grains or nuts. My Omega-3 to Omega-6 ratio is 1:1, since all of my fat also comes from grass-fed animals and vegetables. I have been tracking what I eat for the past few months on Cronometer. Nutritionally, the diet is excellent and balanced, and I feel as healthy as I did eating RZC.

Eating 100% raw grass-fed flesh foods was very therapeutic and did wonders to restore insulin sensitivity and overall balance to my digestive system, but I am not interested in eating that way long-term.

I could never get brains or testicles, though I wanted to try them. I made some high meat in the past.