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Journals / Re: Karl Loren's Journal
« on: September 28, 2009, 11:42:34 am »
Hey Satya - its TL.

Hi TL and Satya.

Hot Topics / Re: Raw Meat Diet For Humans
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:49:33 pm »
id love to be able todo a raw meat diet, but i just cant manage it!!

i did eat a raw steak, but it gave be really bad gas, i could tell it would very hard to digest.
I find that raw meat digests very easily for me.  I eat my meat as Bear discribes.....just seared on the outside, raw in the middle.  When I eat fully cooked meat, it feels like a rock sitting in my stomach for hours.

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: How many carbs do you need?
« on: November 14, 2008, 12:16:31 am »
I took a look at the forum/blog.

Weel, in my opinion the situation is as usual: Charles as well, seems to train 1 every 3-4 days.
Another proof that on ZC recovery is so longer.

Again, I believe that to train consistently some carbs are needed, the amount depending on training volume.
While Charles does only run twice per week, he also lifts weights twice per week.  He does acknowledge more recovery time is required, but he also firmly believes that running twice per week is all that is necessary.  Training smarter, not harder.  Charles always finishes in the top 10-15% in his races.  And he usually runs in races that have several thousand runners.  Not bad, I'd say.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: October 25, 2008, 12:08:23 pm »
Lex, great news about your colonoscopy and all the other "numbers".  I'm due for my turning 50 colonoscopy in a couple of years.  I hope mine goes as well as yours.  But then, I know of no reason why it shouldn't.

Journals / Re: Kristelle's Journal
« on: September 30, 2008, 01:50:15 am »
Yes, I'm eating more fat. The last 24-48 hours have been unbelievable. I can't even describe the feeling other than to say that it's like being on a high constantly without any of the side effects of drugs. Life is good!
I'm glad you're finally discovering what zero carb can be like!  I'm so happy for you.

Journals / Re: Kristelle's Journal
« on: September 29, 2008, 08:03:56 pm »
Energy levels are wayyyyyyyy up, skin is much better and I'm barely hungry. Life is good, estrogen is bad! LOL.
Kristelle, are you eating more fat again, now?  Glad to hear you're feeling better!

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: September 26, 2008, 11:29:45 pm »
I have no personal experience to add here. But it seems you could test this out very easily by using the much advertised glycogen reloading window and having a "sports drink".  I would think that a single test would be enough to know based on your rather dramatic decline in jogging ability, assuming it is due to "fuel" that is.

Charles over at Jimmy Moore's forum doesn't seem to have your issue though.  He eats the same as you except that he cooks it.  He is, I think, a good 10 to 15 years younger than you.  He runs half-marathons.  I'm not a member over there so I can't post, but I'm sure there are more than few that read this thread that CAN post your question over there to get his response.  Maybe even that Jeff guy who is everywhere.  ;)

Yes, Charles confirms that the recovery time is longer on zero carb meat and water.  But at the same time, he finds that less exercise is required to maintain fitness.  Charles only runs twice per week.  He doesn't jog.  I believe he does mostly interval work.  He also lifts twice per week, but he has been running alot of races lately, so he has not lifted for several weeks in a row.  He found that even after going several weeks without lifting, there was no loss of strength.  Charles is in his early 40's.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: September 21, 2008, 11:24:07 pm »
Hi Jeff,

And a welcome lurker you are.

Hi, Craig.  It's great to be here.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: September 20, 2008, 02:46:47 am »
Because this is WAY too interesting and informative a thread for you let go by.

OK, actually I just lost track of all places I keep seeing you and assumed you were here too.  ;D

Yeah, I'm everywhere!

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: September 19, 2008, 11:06:46 pm »
I went back and checked what Taubes actually said and it wasn't that high fat would not cause weight gain, but that a lack of Alpha Glycerol Phosphate (a primary source of which is the metabolism of BG in the presence of insulin) would interfere with the ability to create triglycerides which are required to transport and store body fat and therefore weight gain would not occur.

If the dietary fat itself contained Alpha Glycerol Phosphate, then the body could use it to create the triglycerides necessary to transport and store body fat and you could gain weight.  It may also be that the digestive process is not an efficient way for AGP to enter the system so the weight gain only seems to occur when very large amounts of fat are consumed.  Another interesting idea is that Alpha Glycerol Phosphate would only be present in animal fat and not in plant based fats.  I know of several people who consume a large percentage of their diets as plant oils and fats and do not gain weight, however they don't seem to maintain robust health without added carbs in their diet either.
Hi Lex.  I believe Taubes also said that the AGP came from glucose metabolism inside the fat cell.  It will not be transported there.  Triglycerides cannot be stored as body fat......they are too large to pass through the adipose cell wall.  Fatty acids may well enter the fat cell, but if there is no AGP inside the fat cell, triglycerides cannot be formed and the fatty acids will be released back into the bloodstream.

Both you and Kristelle have reported gaining weight on zero carb, very high fat.  So if Taubes is correct, you must be creating glucose and this glucose must be finding it's way into the fat cell.  As you know, I have personally eaten a very high fat diet with 1000 extra calories per day and did not gain weight.  So apparently glucose was not getting into my fat cells.  So the question is, why is this different for me than it is for you and Kristelle?

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: September 19, 2008, 10:46:38 pm »
But Jeff, who I believe is lurking about, has been VLC for long enough I think to make a valid test of it.

E., how did you know I've been lurking about?   Indeed, I have been.

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