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General Discussion / Aajonus Vonderplanitz questionable diploma?
« on: September 23, 2012, 07:13:41 am »
Please don't hit me!

 I am new to the whole raw paleo, and I have not eaten cooked meat this entire week!  It has all been raw (ground beef and salmon)  However, I love animal products, an truthfully enjoy them much more cooked (Except for fish, love sashimi)  However, being new even to paleo I just want to make sure my decisions in becoming a RVAFer really has benefits over eating cooked food paleo.   But since it seems that Aajonus name seems to associated with eating raw animal products  maybe even the reason many do raw paleo.  It makes me a little more leary in maybe becoming full RVAFer.  Please understand I am keeping an open mind, and I get the bacteria/enzymes/heat sensitive b vitamins in raw meat, and that it might be better for us...

Any comments?

General Discussion / Re: Raw Meat Digestion Question
« on: September 23, 2012, 02:38:19 am »
That's funny.  I also use raw eggs to help offset the negative effects of cooked meat. 

how does it offset it?  is it the whole egg or just the yolk?  if it is the whole egg what about the avidin?

Okay, the uncovered ground meat in the fridge was a good idea, I really liked the outside where it began to dry, it almost was like jerky, could I possibly flatten ground meat really thin on a plate so it will dry faster and just eat it? 

2.  After I thawed it I prepared it with onion/garlic/allspice/cinnamon/salt/pepper and drizzled olive oil on it. 
how long will it keep in the fridge?  Is this time also the same for unseasoned meat? Do different meats last longer?  i.e. fattier meats, organ meats, etc.

keep the meat uncovered and well ventilated.  your seasoning mix with actually start to "cook" the meat, you will find that garlic powder has this effect, as well as lemon juice and vinegar.  it can leave a more pleasant texture depending on your prefference.  i like to make things like this, basically raw meat balls or meatloaf, if you are not adding fresh herbs and use proper storage it can last as long as you appreciate the taste.  you can eat at room temp and put it back in the fridge as long as you keep it uncovered and ventilated

Uncovered and ventilated huh?  I thought that would increase the rate of spoilage? 

TylerDurden, okay I will check out the newbie page, and the high meat seems interesting, probably something I won't try at first, I really want to get used to the taste of meat, though I think it might have been a mistake to start of with ground?  I remember eating a piece of steak (filet mignon to be exact) seared (and by seared I literally mean just waved over the fire for a second, since it was thick it didn't even cook inside, and I really enjoyed the steak, however I enjoyed it with the GMO/high fructose corn syrup rich sauces I got to pour all over it.  However, I did find that the cinnamon really gave it a nice pleasant taste along with the onion. 

Thank you all for your input II really appreciate it

Thank you for your responses, I want to learn all I can.

Excuse my Ignorance,  POV?

What is "High Meat" and this hanging method?   

I tried to google things on raw meat and I keep getting results that lead to websites  talking about dangers of raw meat, safe handling etc. etc. Is there like a manual?  like "Eating raw meat for dummies" or something I want to learn how to make jerky, and all that stuff.

I am not sure how I can get fresh unfrozen meat, most of my local farms use USDA places to process meat, and they only have it frozen?  I guess whole foods may have grass fed thawed meat, i will have to inquire to see if has been pre frozen

Getting into organ meats, I was thinking of grounding my own meat and maybe doing 85 muscle and 15% organ and slowly increase the organ ratios until I get used to the organ meat?

So I am just starting my quest with raw paleo today I had raw grass fed ground meat for the first time and it was delicious, I felt a little weird while eating it but had a good flavor and texture.   I buy my meat from grass fed sources from a local farm that I have visited to see their healthy cows. 

I have a few questions

1.  I had it frozen for two weeks for parasites, (I have a good source of grass fed)  is this step necessary?

2.  After I thawed it I prepared it with onion/garlic/allspice/cinnamon/salt/pepper and drizzled olive oil on it. 
how long will it keep in the fridge?  Is this time also the same for unseasoned meat? Do different meats last longer?  i.e. fattier meats, organ meats, etc.

3.  Can I let meat go to room temp to eat it?  how long can I leave it outside of the fridge?  Any big No-Nos to meat handling/preparation?

4.  raw Poultry, Rabbit, Pork, elk, bison, etc...   same principles in eating raw beef?

5.  What about parasites, E. coli 0157:H7, bovine spongiform encephalopathy. Trichinosis, salmonella?

6.  Any good raw meat preparation recipes?  I do strict paleo and  I don't include nightshades,

Personals / Re: California
« on: September 19, 2012, 03:41:18 am »

Personals / Re: California
« on: September 18, 2012, 04:29:12 pm »
Milk fats/cholesterol are very delicate and become rancid due to pasteurization, if I am not mistaken rancid fats = free radicals?   :(

Raw Weston Price / Re: Meal planning
« on: September 16, 2012, 07:30:40 pm »
Hello, I live in Downtown san jose, near san jose state university.  Would like to get to know people people who eat raw meat, so I can see how they prepare it, I don't think I could eat it on my own but if i saw other people eating it i think I could do it to!

Personals / Re: RAFers Across the World!
« on: September 16, 2012, 07:13:07 pm »
-Name   Robert (real)   eoterm (on rawpaleonet)

San Jose, CA 95112

-Type of RAFer you are 
umm.. not sure omnivore, raw seafood so far, trying to grow a pair and eat raw meat :)

-And if you want your avatar as the image that shows up on the map please just tell me.
I dunno how to put an avatar picture, I tried to edit, doesn't show, but yes if I figure it out

Personals / Re: Any RAFers in San Jose, CA? or surrounding areas..
« on: September 16, 2012, 05:55:28 pm »
Awesome, I personally get all my meats from Markegards Family Farm in Halfmoon bay, I been to their farm and it looks legit, they have happy animals and they feed them well, they are grass fed/finished and their prices aren't too shabby I would like one day to eat raw meat, and though its a strange request but if I had someone to eat the meat raw with (hint hint lol) I might be more inclined?  also, I wouldn't mind if you wanted to tag along when I go buy meat/ and pastured eggs in half moon bay they also have rabbit/duck (upon request, you have to let them know a week in advanced).  I also sometimes go to Santa Cruz farmers market where I get grass fed beef from and Aurellios Farm is there for pastured chicken.

Personals / Re: Any RAFers in San Jose, CA? or surrounding areas..
« on: August 28, 2012, 09:41:18 am »
Where are you favorite places to shop?   What have you eaten raw?  I am still a little hesitant, if I could find someone to do it with I might be more inclined.  Where do you eat out if you do? 

Personals / Any RAFers in San Jose, CA? or surrounding areas..
« on: August 27, 2012, 02:50:32 pm »
I am pretty new to all these things but would love to find either an experience person or a person thinking about doing this? 

A little about myself:

I am a physics student at San Jose State University, I live about a mile from the campus.  Would love a buddy who I can eat with, and maybe hit up the farmers markets/farms/springs with.  Honestly its kind of lonely doing these primal/paleo type diets all alone, I am still refining my diets since I been only doing this for 3 weeks.  Would love to find an experienced person or someone who wants to start eating this way, and is dedicated (I don't cut corners).  I been trying to venture into Raw foods so far I managed to eat raw egg yolks, tuna, octopus, and salmon roe. I am trying to get the courage to eat more raw meats. 

Anyway,  don't hesitate to hit me up, or email me :)


Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello
« on: August 27, 2012, 10:18:35 am »
I read the book too had great results, I put my mother on it too she doing amazing!

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