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Off Topic / Re: "Reject basic assumptions..."
« on: August 01, 2009, 08:20:31 pm »
Phil - Either, but I was initially shooting for an examination of the basic assumptions of modern western society. Perhaps that first, then your personal assumptions.

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Off Topic / "Reject basic assumptions..."
« on: July 31, 2009, 11:18:03 pm »
I posted this elsewhere, too....

Had a conversation the other day.

I'm sure I was being complimented when he quoted the Tyler Durden character: "Reject the basic assumptions of civilizations (especially the importance of material possessions)". Not that he knows me well enough to know if I embrace such a view, but it begs the question:

What ARE the basic assumptions of civilization? Of modern, western society?

Tyler was attacking consumer culture only, so ignore "Fight Club" (those assumptions, presumably, extend far beyond just the scope of Chuck's book) and tell us: What is YOUR LIST of basic assumptions?

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General Discussion / Re: Man the Scavenger like a Vulture?
« on: July 31, 2009, 10:13:28 pm »
If further replies are on their beliefs / theories / hypothesis about human origins, I suggest they be taken to http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/hot-topics/human-creation-evolution-quantavolution-alien-origins-etc/


Goodsamaritan,

Evolution and human origins are not the same topic. Little green men tossing people on this planet only says how we originally got here, not about our development since that time.

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General Discussion / Re: Man the Scavenger like a Vulture?
« on: July 31, 2009, 08:46:14 am »
William,

If you choose to disbelieve in evolution (or relativity or Newtonian mechanics or quantum mechanics or the germ theory of disease or the Copernican heliocentric model or...) or even in the scientific method, that's your business.

However, words have meanings. If you we wish to engage in meaningful discussion with each other, to exchange information and ideas, then we need to use words properly. It is destructive to a productive exchange of ideas if you decide unilaterally to redefine words - words like "neolithic" and "evolution".

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General Discussion / Re: Man the Scavenger like a Vulture?
« on: July 31, 2009, 04:48:36 am »
There is no proof that man evolved
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The fact that we bother to discuss this off-topic irrelevancy is proof that we, neolithic man, have devolved.
Shrunken in body and mind indeed.

This is a joke - right?

Modern man is not "neolithic" man. The neolithic period was the last part of the stone age. It ushered in the first agricultural age - this was the so-called Neolithic Revolution - that saw the end of the paleolithic period.

The neolithic period was roughly (very roughly, since it depends upon region) 12000 BC to 1000 BC.

Evolution is not a "theory" in the layman's sense of the word. "Theory", as used by science, is not "theory" as used by everyone else. The misunderstanding is a linguistic one.

Evolution is a scientific model (let's say "Theory" with a capital T), not a small t "theory" like someone's opinion. As a model (formal structure designed based on severe rules of logic to explain empirical data/observations) it is EXTREMELY successful. More so than most...even those that give rise to things like, say, watching TV live via satellite or landing a ship on the moon or building a nuclear bomb. Science uses models (rather than stating "facts") because scientific proof is not concrete, but provisional (Newtonian mechanics works damn well, but Relativistic mechanics works in areas where the Newtonian model breaks down).

It is as close to "fact" as science gets, and science works.

In short, you can take it to the bank...right along with the "theory" that you need to breath air to live.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Different Types of Exercise
« on: July 30, 2009, 12:11:53 am »
Played tennis yesterday for the first time in years.

Great workout!

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Off Topic / Re: Bill Maher: Not Everything has to make a profit
« on: July 27, 2009, 09:53:18 pm »
Interesting piece, but Mayer is being disingenuous at best.

"Loss leaders" are part of profit-generating entities and always have been. With a few exceptions, hospitals have always been run in an attempt to turn a profit (that's how you generate cash to re-invest in better gear, for example).

He makes some excellent points (war profiteering, for example), but he has an axe to grind with profit (though I don't know why, since he personally generates plenty of profit) and with capitalism, ignoring the fact that MOST of the ills blamed on capitalism and the "unfettered free market" have far less to do with markets being free and biz trying to turn a profit, and much more to do with government intervention, government boondoggles, and biz turning to gov for protectionism.

Severe the ties between biz & gov and the vast majority of those problems go away.

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Different Types of Exercise
« on: July 27, 2009, 09:45:13 pm »
At the moment, I do exclusively body-weight exercises (sit-ups, push-ups, pull-ups, chin-ups, squats, calf raises, etc) and cardio (rope or similar).

I like riding my bike, but haven't at all this year. I used to swim almost every day when we lived by a lake, but now I don't do much swimming, either. Gotta rectify those situations soon.

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I'd be wary of using the word "evolution" that way, as if it's a one way street forward to getting "better."

VERY good point.

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Interesting piece - thanx for posting!

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Off Topic / Re: thought i'd share...
« on: July 17, 2009, 09:57:21 am »
Cool.

Reminds me of a discussion I had with someone years ago - they were complaining about my consumption of raw meat and refusal to cook my veggies. In the course of the discussion, they asked why I thought humans cooked food now, and how it got started.

I replied that I figure it started as a treat (like candy) and, like humans often do, we just got carried away. You know, like when I was a kid, eating at a restaurant happened once a year, candy once a month, blah, blah. Now, kids eat out every day and expect a sweet chocolaty dessert to follow. And soda. And a candy bar for snack.....and....

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FYI: I hope my frustration didn't seem pointed at you--it was aimed at Sussman and his ilk, who seem to adopt a political agenda and then seek out information to confirm it.

I should point out that Sussman is not practicing science if he is guilty of seeking info only to confirm what he wants to believe.

Science proper is exactly what humans (and chimps) were doing when we first started making tools.

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Off Topic / Re: Commitment thread
« on: July 10, 2009, 08:59:18 am »
Cheating.

Odd concept.

I'm not certain what other thread you refer to, but when you say "cheating", I assume you mean eating "forbidden" foods?

I'll give this one some thought.

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Health / Cholesterol Query
« on: July 10, 2009, 08:55:43 am »
Cholesterol is the question people keep asking me when I splurge on meats.

I have no ready answer for them because I eat mostly by instinct (except when I'm intentionally experimenting).

How come you folks who eat far more meat than I (not to mention dairy and such, which I don't consume at all) don't have rocks for arteries? Is it due to the fact that what you eat is RAW?

Do non-raw paleo eaters have issues with high cholesterol?

Oh...they also ask about kidneys. too. I suspect because of the Atkins issues.

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2. There is no reason that within a couple of 100,000 years man magically evolved to being 40% carnivorous EVERY SINGLE DAY. 

There is not a single "raw paleo" diet. Some folks here eat meat every day. Some eat only meat. Some tend to eat mostly fruits & veggies and splurge on meat. There are many other variations.

That you dislike red meat does not mean others dislike red meat.

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General Discussion / Re: Man The Hunted
« on: July 08, 2009, 08:51:03 pm »
The notion that humans are either exclusively prey or predator makes no sense and never has. Humans, which popped on the scene about a 1/4 million years ago, may be at the top of the food chain, but they've always been a tasty treat for bears, lions, and gators.

Humans are an opportunistic species. Humans, and earlier primates, may well have been avoiding large critters, but clearly at some point we began chasing their asses down, too. And eating them.

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General Discussion / Re: Were you sick when you started?
« on: July 06, 2009, 08:13:35 pm »
I find there are generally two types of people found in the raw/natural health movements: people who were sick and couldn't find relief from medicine or people who are into experimental and fringe things or perfection seekers
Interesting observation, Kyle.

I don't know that the latter (especially "perfection seeker") would aptly describe my position, but I've certainly never had any major illness. No hospital stays, no operations, no meds for chronic conditions. I've broken a couple of bones and had pneumonia, but that's about it.

"Experimental" might sum me up. But it's worth noting, as I've said elsewhere, that I've always leaned heavily towards raw, and always eaten meat...even LONG before I knew there was a "raw movement" of any kind. So I guess "intuitive" plus "experimental" probably sums me up best.

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The were studying endurance, but the author keeps saying "fit" as if the terms were synonymous.

The answer to the question, I suspect, is "no". You can increase your endurance, it seems, but I would guess that if one is looking to be "fit", one has to work out a bit more than that.


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Personals / Re: Who's on Facebook? Let's add each other as friends.
« on: July 02, 2009, 09:25:57 am »
You sound like you're from the same school of thought as Lex and me, David (which is "old school" LOL)--and I mean that as a compliment.

Hahaha!!!

Taken as a compliment!

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General Discussion / Re: Further article on AGEs
« on: July 01, 2009, 10:48:45 pm »
I'm gonna have to find a shorter article - no time to read all that at the moment!

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Personals / Re: Who's on Facebook? Let's add each other as friends.
« on: July 01, 2009, 09:41:26 pm »
Interesting. Why do you think diet would effect your employment?

Why do either of you think said technologies create "instant access"?

Granted, I do not use instant chat systems or twitter (the former because it interrupts other activities; the latter I explained above), but cell phones are only "instant access" if you interrupt every face to face conversation to answer a call (which, to my mind, is just rude).

Facebook, myspace, tribe, email, web forums, and the like are not even close to instant access and the amount of info you provide the world is under your complete control.

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Health / Re: Are you taking prescription drugs? What, why, what for?
« on: July 01, 2009, 09:35:02 pm »
Ooops - I forgot to answer the other questions.

It's hard to say how long I've followed this sort of dietary thing. I consciously increased my raw intake way back in 1991 or so. I've always eaten raw & extremely rare meats (even before the 90s and before I heard a fancy name for it). I probably wasn't what would be considered "high raw" (80%+ raw by calorie) until 2003 or so, though.

Most of what I eat now is raw, but I am paleo in the sense that I eat no traditional grains like wheat (no breads at all, though once in a blue moon I'll eat rice or raw corn), and no dairy or any kind. I eat fruits, veggies, & meats - the vast majority of it raw.

Lifestryle? No, I don't drink soda or coffee or use most traditional soaps or household cleaners.

I work out several times a week (mostly body weight exercises & cardio) and am self-employed (musician).

I grow my own veggies in my backyard organic garden. I drink on occasion (wine or hard liquors, not beers).

I embrace technology completely.

What are you trying to define? Paleo?

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Talk about Durian
« on: July 01, 2009, 08:16:21 am »
I've never had durian. Guess I'm gonna have to go get one and try it out.

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Personals / Re: Who's on Facebook? Let's add each other as friends.
« on: July 01, 2009, 08:14:13 am »
Interesting perspective on technology and control. I'll have to ponder that.

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