I did ZC for about 5 days.  I was feeling tired, no energy, but otherwise okay.  Then I binged on SAD food that weekend when my friend came into town.  I am now back on ZC for the last 2 days.  I want to stay 100% ZC until August 6.  That is my mom's birthday (50) so I decided since we would be traveling to see relatives I would eat what everyone else eats.  An then after that day go straight back to ZC (if its working for me still).

This WOE gets old but I can see results even from my lax implementation of the diet.  I want to try and be 100% raw so that I am not taking two steps forward and one step back.  I want to stay 100% raw ZC and see where it takes my health.

Hey CHK91,

I had pretty similar symptoms actually.  I don't know what caused it, but I have a few theories.  If you want to check out my journal I go into pretty good detail on the matter.  I got sushi the day before and drank some sake at the restaurant.  Then I cleaned my house (a lot of dust).  Then I was drinking spring water from questionable sources.  Then I was violently ill with fever and other symptoms you describe.

Anything in common with what you did?

Eveheart, I am getting a whole lamb from a grassfed farmer early this fall.  I can't wait.  I've only had lamb a few times, and that was many years ago, and cooked.

I am on day two of Raw ZC and I feel tired.  I could barely stay awake today, even though I had over 8 hours of sleep.  I put in an order to slankers for pet food.  I hope I find that more palateable than the organs I've eaten whole.

On a side note I started running sprints last week mon, wed, fri.  Then today I ran my first sprint and I pulled a muscle in my inner thigh.  I walked home after that.  I hope the injury heals itself fast.  I don't think I will be sprinting for a few weeks (maybe a month).

I've started ZC today.  I just ate a 1/3lb of kidney.  I didn't like it.  Maybe I will try and eat a 1/2lb of organ meat 5 times a week.

Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Concerns?

I am currently taking a bite out of a medium sized piece of suet right now.  It doesn't taste bad and the texture is fine.  Not much flavor at all really.  I get my suet from slankers and sometimes I cut it up and mix it with meat or sometimes I put a hunk of suet with my meat and I take bites off it throughout my meat meal.

Hey All,

I am considering trying the Virgin Coconut Oil (VCO) Detox that is reccomended by GS.

I am a little worried that it might set back my health a bit.

I was wondering who on the forum has done it?  And if the results were positive or negative?

I know I contacted a few of you via PM, but feel free to comment on your experiences as well.

Thanks,
-Max

That looks awesome.  I want to get Randy's first book.  I will pobably get whatever other books he writes too.

I too found it a good read.

Carb Cycling, who's done it?  Did it work?  Did you gain Muscle?  How did it make you feel?

I was thinking of trying carb cycling for fat loss/muscle gain.  I heard Randy Roach talk about it in a radio interview but he didn't give specifics.

I was thinking two Zero Carb days a week(non-consecutive).  One unlimited carb day per week, and four low carb days a week.  How low do you think low carb days should be?

I don't know,

But if I had to take a stab at it... Eat as much healthy raw grassfed meat and wild game as you can.  Hunt yourself, or make friends with hunters for meat.  Try and find a source of healthy grassfed meat and try to make a deal where you can buy organs and fat cheap.  You can try organic grainfed meat raw and fresh and see how you react.  Then I would eat a lot of eggs (free range, pastured) and eat fruit to make up the rest of your calories.  Also you could try things like coconut butter, and Raw Honey to get your calories.

Do your best, one step at a time.  Make lifestyle changes to give yourself more money for raw foods.  Move if you have to (and want to).  Think of changing careers if it would make you more money, happier or both.  Do the best you can one step at a time, one day at a time.

And keep posting on this forum.  (It has helped me a lot.)

My stomach still has some ache today.  I am going to not drink the spring water for the next few days and see if it will go away.

p0wer, How long did it take for your symptoms to improve after you stopped drinking spring water?

Strange Occurrence.

I had a cold, a jaw ache and the sniffles Friday night.  I woke up Saturday with the same symptoms.  Fresh air seemed to help.  I spent most of Saturday tracking down locations for natural spring water.  It was quite an adventure.  I talked to a stranger about an old spring house (the roof had collapsed) on her property, then I collected some water for 'testing'.  I drank the water.  Not much maybe a cup.  Felt fine.  Then next spring I found I had to hike through tall grass, weeds and brush, waist high, to get to it.  It was very difficult, that one was unattended and had a more dubious nature about it.  I drank probably a cup of water from there as well.  The last spring I went to was an artesian well, that is widely used for drinking water by people in the area.  I drank a lot from that spring and gathered about 3 gallons.

I got back home at around 9pm.  I stopped drinking water at 8pm, and other than the same sniffles that I'd had all day I felt fine.  I ate some meat and fat (1/2pound).  The same meat and fat that I had had earlier in the day (probably 1/2 pound at 1 pm)  At 10pm I started getting a stomach ache.  That turned into the 'stomach ache of the century'.  I also got feverish.  I laid down in bed and covered myself in blankets.  If I got out of bed I was shaking because I was so cold.  I while in bed I was sweating like crazy.  I had very interrupted sleep for the first 3 hours.  I felt horrible the whole time.  My mind was trying to figure out what did this.  Was it the water?  Was it the food I ate yesterday?  After 7 hours I woke up.  Still with a bad stomach ache still with a runny nose.  I wanted to try and sleep this off a little more.  I slept for another 7 hours.  About 14 hours of total sleep. 

I didn't have a runny nose today, my stomach still hurts, but not as bad as yesterday.  I decided not to eat anything today, because I thought it would help with healing, and I wasn't that hungry.  My stomach is still sore (lower abdomen area, below navel). 

I hope I feel better tomorrow.  I haven't been sick in a really long time.  I hope this is a minor setback in health, not a major one.