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Health / Blood in Stools
« on: December 09, 2011, 10:14:51 am »
What are some of the causes and meanings of blood appearing in the stool?

Since I began the Milk Diet I've noticed that blood appears in my stools more frequently than before. The blood doesn't seem related to any pain and I generally feel that it may be good, as if I'm removing something harmful. Could this be a negative manifestation, such as malnutrition?



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General Discussion / Re: The coconut
« on: December 09, 2011, 10:08:24 am »
I was gifted several old coconuts. How would you recommend that I utilize the fat that is in the coconut? I have a blender and a juicer at my disposal but would prefer a raw, simple technique.

In the Philippines I asked how does one enjoy the coconut meat and the most common reply was to use it in cooking.

Although this requires cooking, I was thinking about just tossing the meat in a bone broth and allow the fat to slowly separate and join with the animal fat. Doesn't that sound yummy? :)

I'm in need of some recommendations from the coconut eaters!

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Vegetable Juice Fermentation
« on: December 09, 2011, 10:01:33 am »
I'd say most veggie juices wouldn't have enough sugar to really ferment very much, with the exception of beet and carrot.  Certainly apple and grape juices will ferment (into cider and wine), and I've fermented orange juice plenty of times.

I thought the same thing but how would you explain the fermentation of sauerkraut within the brine of sauerkraut? Or what about beat kvass? This liquid surely doesn't compare to the sugar content of carrot juice but still touted as beneficial and probiotic. As to whether or not the liquid is truly fermenting is debatable, but somehow the fermentation process imparts something into the liquid to make it deemed beneficial.

I suppose just enjoying the vegetable juices fresh would be best.

KD, do you have any recommendations to get the hydration of vegetables without all the fiber in a simple way?

Juicing requires too much technology and is wasteful unless a blender like a Vitamix is used.

I may experiment with wadging, but then again this seems wasteful and time consuming.

I feel the best method is to vigorously agitate the vegetables and ferment them. In this way, the fiber is pre-digested; the vegetable still provides hydration (yet, still less than pure juice); and this can be done manually without any waste.

Most raw vegetables just don't seem appetizing these days, but I do prize them for their structured  hydration they provide.

Any suggestions?

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: December 07, 2011, 11:42:12 pm »
Artificial Sun Tanning: The Day After
I don't think I've ever felt that good after a session out in the sun. I decided that I'm going to experiment with sun tanning regularly. I feel warm and relaxed even now several hours afterward.

This experiment with sun tanning has made me realize that all the stress I've applied to my diet have been unnecessary. Re-introducing raw meats, avoiding most grains and so forth have been good changes but beyond that I feel I've been much too concerned with how I eat. Generally I do more harm then good because I worry about minute details too much.

Winter Diet
I've decided just to follow a simple routine that includes:

vegetable juices
sour milk
eggs
red meat

I've noticed that after beginning to eat red meat again I started to crave liquid and sometimes milk doesn't hydrate me quite right. Vegetable juices will serve this purpose.

I have two obstacles to overcome: I don't own a juicer. To be honest I don't want to juice my vegetables because of the technology involved. I'd prefer a diet that is simple. I'll have to has out a more simple way to stay hydrated. I wouldn't mind steaming my vegetables but the water I have access to is unfit for human consumption in my opinion.

The second obstacle: All the meat I have access to is pre-frozen. This means I need to slaughter animals regularly. This is one detail I've yet to obsess too much over and I feel it is necessary because as of yet I've hardly been able to eat fresh meat.

Other than that, I'm going to try to avoid thinking too much about food until spring. This means, cooked vegetables, bone broths and the like will all be acceptable (if I can find a decent water source). I think this will bring a good balance.

When I spend my time outside in the sun, or with friends and family I find that my mental and emotional health is far greater and transmutes to better nutrition in general--even if I am eating cooked foods. Everything is related and transmutable. If I spend too much time worrying about nutrition the other aspects of my life begin to suffer and destroy any potential benefit that my diet may provide because I was too concerned to even enjoy it in the first place. Now that I understand the simple principles to a healthy raw diet I should try to stick to these healthy principles, be mindful of instincts, and just forget everything about food and nutrition so as not to be overly concerned.

Whew.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Vegetable Juice Fermentation
« on: December 07, 2011, 11:20:38 pm »
It is generally advised to consume vegetable juices fresh within minutes of juicing the vegetables.

However, I'm interested in fermenting vegetable juice to see the benefits. I suppose this would be something like making beet kvass but from all different vegetables such as carrots, squash and so forth.

I figure there is a window in which the juice is most fresh, which lasts about seven minutes or so before the juice becomes oxidized by oxygen and then begins to ferment and for the juice to become well ripened it will take about the same amount of time it would take to ferment sauerkraut.

Would there be greater benefit to fermented juice over fresh juice?

In particular I'd like to hear KD's opinion on this.

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: December 07, 2011, 08:45:24 am »
Experiment: Artificial Sun Bathing
I tried artificial sun tanning for the first time. It felt good although I definitely prefer full traditional, full sun exposure. The light seemed to help my posture as I found the light relaxing.

It's interesting how all the experiments I attempt that are unrelated to food seem to produce the greatest results. This is probably because I execute nutritional experiments the worst, ha-ha! I can't seem to commit intelligently, and find myself just hurting myself in the end.

Clay
Today, I decided to begin to mix clay with my morning milk. I accidentally used a metallic spoon so I'm doubtful this batch of clay will be beneficial anymore. I'll be sure to be more careful with the next batch.

For now, I consume two tablespoons per cup of milk.

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: December 06, 2011, 11:43:33 pm »
History of Fat Consumption
I just realized yesterday that when I was a vegetarian I also craved fat such as peanut butter and chocolate. I remember buying dark chocolate chips in bulk to sprinkle peanut butter with chocolate chips and spoon them heavily. I thought it was healthy because it was one of my only sources of fat. Now, I do the same with fat trimmings. I also enjoyed raw butter to no end.

I'm not sure what this mean but it may have something to do with my weight and my ability to absorb food efficiently. I'm still underweight at 140 pounds and at a height of 5 feet and eleven inches.

Effects of the Milk Diet
I noticed that my bowels have become quite regular since re-introducing solid foods this time around. I'm not sure if it is due to the Colosan, the curative effects of milk, or both.

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: December 06, 2011, 11:33:05 pm »
the depression may be from opiate withdrawl


No, I have a feeling it was a bit different. Besides, I still drink milk daily just a single quart though.

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General Discussion / Food Safe Utensil, Cutlery Alternatives
« on: December 06, 2011, 03:54:06 am »
For cutlery, I'm looking into a set of ceramic knives and scissors. For utensils I'm trying to find a set made of wood.

Could anyone make any recommendations for brands or for information as to how I might be able to craft utensils. I saw a spoon made from coconut shells the other day and I think I'm going to try to craft one.


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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: December 06, 2011, 01:20:34 am »
Milk Diet: Beyond Milk
So I've transitioned back to eating solid foods. I gorged on fat and frozen stew meat the other evening--I just couldn't help myself. I had a heavy dose of depression and loneliness the next morning, but it faded after some exercise and fresh sunlight. Even though I've been craving fat, the fat trimmings I binged on didn't quite satisfy my craving as well as I thought it would. The wild goose fat dipped in yolks, however, was awesome!

When I experimented with goose meat dipped in yolks I found myself feeling satisfaction only for the yolk.

I've been taking one teaspoon of Colosan (thanks to Eve), which seems to ensure that my bowels don't sit too long in my gut. I like it. I move bowels in a much more normal fashion in my opinion.

This is interesting: when eating goose meat, it is more difficult to over eat. I also find that because I can't binge (as I usually do on pounds of pre-frozen meat) my body doesn't require an excessive amount of water to digest the wild goose meat. However, when I eat pre-frozen beef, I find myself eating too much and then dehydrating myself! Water is generally unsatisfying as well, which makes it difficult to hydrate my body. This supports the point raised by GCB on the greater difference between fowl and humans which is assists the accurate use of our instincts in this thread.

Cooked Meal
I had dinner with friends and threw all caution to the wind to see how I would fare against cooked foods. My friend follows a cooked Paleolithic-inspired diet. We had bone shanks slow roasted with vegetables and a desert of fresh fruits.

The meat that had been slow roasting for a day tasted like cardboard. I will never choose to voluntarily eat cooked meat. It makes no sense! Meat tastes terrible cooked unless  lightly cooked in heavy amounts of fat.

The vegetables, though, were amazing! I found myself relishing the carrots, garlic and onions all covered in bone marrow broth. I think I will re-introduce some cooked vegetables and make a broth of bones I have lying around for some warm nourishment.

Next Phase
Well, I binge on domesticated, pre-frozen red meat and can't find too much satisfaction in the trimmings; I enjoy yolks and milk, still; Cooked vegetables and rendered fat sounds yummy so I may try some of that; wild goose meat is fairly satisfying so I'll stick with that some more; I just made a batch of sauerkraut so I'll nibble on that from time to time. Over all I'd say this is going to outline the majority of my diet for this winter: milk, eggs, goose and I'll occasionally add in seafood, domesticated meat, broths and fermented vegetables.


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General Discussion / Re: Eating Egg Shells
« on: December 05, 2011, 03:49:56 am »
Just to add to the body of knowledge: You can also use egg shells in vegetable ferments to create a biologically available form of calcium as describe on this website. Although the author doesn't suggest that you should eat the shells, I'm not sure of the harm of doing so.

I recently made two large batches of sauerkraut and I think I will add some ground egg shells to the 'kraut for kicks.

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:00:26 am »
Re-introduction of Red Meat
I ate some goose last night (as stated above) and again this morning. I felt quite acidic thereafter. Sometimes I feel this creates a build up of acid that causes me to move less easily. I noticed it today when I rode my bicycle: I felt that my joints and muscles seemed to be grinding rather than moving fluidly and smoothly.


Food Combination Idea
I just got the great idea to dip red meat in eggs while eating. I'll try this for lunch today. Thank you, Ioanna and Sully for the inspiration!

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General Discussion / Re: Denise Minger on fruit
« on: December 03, 2011, 03:46:31 am »
I am happy to find very recently that I can really enjoy vegetables if I do it right (drench them in fat), and this can replace some of the fruit I was eating. Cause my body doesn't react well to real high protein, at least, not as a regular thing.

By high protein do you mean a large amount? If so, what do you eat on a daily/regular basis?

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Hot Topics / Re: Vitamin D
« on: December 03, 2011, 03:41:24 am »
There are also probiotic bacteria that live on the skin that produce other proto vitamin substances that allow for better absorbing of vitamin D through the skin. People who take antibiotics or over-wash with antibacterial agents will lose the ability to to make and absorb vitamin d from the sun.

Intense! The implications are profound!

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: December 02, 2011, 12:42:28 pm »
Milk Diet: Recent Observations
I recently have noticed that a scar on my head has been shrinking in size. This scar has been with me since I attended elementary school and only just recently have I noticed a significant and sudden decrease in the size of the scar. The skin on my head in general feels more soft and less brittle then it has in the past. I've had a mild problem with dandruff before.

My skin has become quite dry. Specifically, the skin covering my achilles tendon. I'm not sure but I believe it is due to the combination of the dry, cold air and the shoes I wear which rub on that portion of my skin. The skin on my face looks relatively healthy and more elastic then it has in previous months.

I've recently become almost certain that for the time being the Milk Diet has provided the maximum benefit it has to offer. When I first began this diet I relished the sweet milk for its building properties. I felt like I was rebuilding something inside of me every time I drank milk. Now, I'm not interested in sweet milk in the slightest. I could handle whole milk before and now I must skim the milk before I enjoy it or otherwise my metabolism will crash or my body will force up the cream. My appetite for sour milk and kefir has increased greatly although in general I feel that after one quart of milk I'm feeling quite satisfied.

My mood and energy level was most astounding when I was purely drinking milk (before I re-incorporated goose meat around Thanksgiving. At this time, my satisfaction in the nourishing sweet milk was at its greatest as well. My mood hasn't risen to that height since. I've heard descriptions of cravings and desires as functions of fungus or bacteria (as KD mentions here) and I'm not sure if my mood was being swayed upward because I was feeding a fungus or bacteria that thrives on carbohydrates (as there's a high sugar content in the milk in the form of lactose) or if it was because I genuinely was thriving because of the milk. This element can be quite confusing and I've yet to make any solid deductions.

My appetite for raw butter has greatly increased! My first meal of butter consisted of only a few teaspoons. Now, I can handle much more and enjoy it much more, too! Perhaps my body was unprepared and needed time to adjust but it seems to have done so. I wish to understand why, though. Also, it should be noted that before I ever ate raw butter I experimented with pasteurized butter and was able to eat two sticks before I felt the need to stop. I think this demonstrates the inherent weakness of cooked dairy.

I also have come to realize that the consistency of my stools is symbolic of the amount of milk that is ideal for me: When drinking three quarts of milk or more in a day my first stool is solid and the remaining movements I have are increasingly less congealed until I finally will simply pass liquid. I think this means that my body is digesting about one quart of milk well and the rest is passing through undigested. My stools have shown this pattern consistently for weeks.

I also have been experiencing cravings for cooked foods, raw foods other than dairy and still fat! I find wild goose muscle meat to be extremely nutritious and satisfying when I crave protein, but there is hardly any fat on geese and this fat is not all that satisfying.

With all these considerations in mind, I feel that it is time that I stopped drinking more than a quart of milk per day, effective immediately.

Potential of Single Food Diets: The Meat Diet, the Milk Diet and the Effect on Sense
Experimenting with a zero carbohydrate diet and now the Milk Diet has been largely successful for building my intuitions. By re-educating my body of what a single food (in this case meats and milk) has to offer by starving it of all other foods I become much more aware of how a food can affect me. Now, when I eat or drink a food I can sense much better than previously what this food has to offer; what nutritional and physical satisfaction it will be providing; and when that need has been met. I believe that this is almost entirely due to the inclusion of milk in my diet. Muscle meat and fat is far less nourishing in this regard (and therefore damaging unless executed fastidiously and with determination, as in the case of Lex_Rooker) relative to milk because milk is a whole food. Before, I would overeat meat because whenever I felt hungry or felt a craving I would rely on mostly muscle meats--which is foolish! Now that my diet has a greater relative variety it is much easier to control myself and respond to my body.

When I tried raw yolks to supplement my diet the time that I ran short of milk, the eggs seemed to provide a similar nourishment to a certain threshold. I ate a little less than twenty-four eggs before I could feel that the eggs weren't benefiting me any more. This threshold is much more palpable in respect to all foods.

Just now I ate some goose meat and could tell I didn't feel too interested in any of the muscle but was craving some fat since I had just finished all the butter I had available and still felt a craving for butter. Nonetheless, I tried a bit of organ, some fat and muscle meat and found the muscle meat to provide a great satisfaction that lasted very briefly and the fat provided little satisfaction even though I was craving fat. After the satisfaction of eating muscle disappeared I didn't feel the desire to continue to eat, but rather was able to simply stop despite the amazing flavor and draw to continue eating the delicious, tender meat of the goose.

It seems that once again as true everywhere in this existence that balance is the key. My personal experience seems to suggest a contradiction to the theory that man survived on a diet rich in animal foods and scarce in carbohydrates, because I obviously require some amount of carbohydrate intake--and at the moment that requirement is quite high. However, this could be due to damage caused over the years and personal habit that I cannot handle a diet that is carbohydrate scarce. Once the necessary repair has been accomplished perhaps my body may naturally tend to function better with a smaller and smaller carbohydrate intake.

For the time being I will base my diet around my milk consumption because it is so nourishing. From there I will eat other foods that I perceive to be decreasingly less wholesome (but still nourishing in their own regard). For example: Milk, eggs, blood, fat and then lastly all other meats. By doing this it will keep me from overeating foods that are solid (and thus more difficult to digest) and foods that are much easier to abuse because of their limited nourishment. I feel that milk is wholesome, therefore I should begin my day with milk, then after eating simple, light foods such as eggs and blood I could easily recognize and respond to my nutritional and physical satisfaction requirements before I ate too much meat.


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Hot Topics / Re: Raw Vegan propaganda
« on: December 02, 2011, 10:02:25 am »
This is not propaganda.

Shooting a duck is a hundred times more morally sound than tucking into, say, an intensively reared pig. If you let your children grow up thinking of meat as a disembodied protein that comes coated in breadcrumbs and shaped like a T. rex, you are not protecting them from anything – except their own responsibilities.

I believe one of my biggest qualms in this community is that (aside from people like sabertooth who have shown initiative to be involved in the process of sourcing/slaughtering their food) we often spent too much time debating and not hardly enough time being responsible for our food.

For all that wild game you enjoy, have you ever killed a wild animal/slaughtered a domestic animal, TylerDurden?

We often speak of perfect ratios of protein, fat, and carbohydrates, but if you were asked to procure such theoretically balanced diets would anyone be able to do so? Let alone, procure much of anything?

I think it would behoove everyone who practices a carnivorous diet (Paleo-inspired, raw, or not) to be responsible for the food that they enjoy--whether that means trying to hunt or raise animals. Otherwise you are missing out on the true benefit, which is the connection one establishes with their food source. This is something that can't be mimicked or understood unless genuinely experienced through the art of raising food (plants or livestock) or hunting.

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Hot Topics / Re: Vitamin D
« on: December 02, 2011, 09:44:31 am »
So what are some ways to get a healthy and high dose of vitamins A and D from wild sources? Is there a food source that secures 5,000 IU of vitamin A and D? Does FCLO provide that much for you Citrus High?

Also, Citrus High, do you use Green Pasture FCLO and FSLO?

I tried searching for a local source of FCLO and couldn't find one. I would prefer not to have to rely on  a food product I have to order over the internet, but I don't know of other sources of vitamin A and D.

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General Discussion / Re: Denise Minger on fruit
« on: December 01, 2011, 02:40:15 pm »
I don't think KD is bashing on fruit as much as he is clarifying the point of Denise Minger, which balancing-act does a poor jog of doing (please do not take any personal offense).

In the Philippines it may make sense to enjoy the delicious small saba (banana) because: (1) it hasn't changed much since there are still wild strains intact and available; (2) GS is a direct descendant of the people who ate these bananas historically; (3) GS eats them seasonally and with moderation; (4) and GS is capable to digest them well because he has overcome fungal issues.

Thank you for your post, KD. I found it particularly clear and informative. It nicely sums up the caution one should practice when eating fruit (especially the hybridized fruits of today).

Also, what does this clause mean?: "eating a healthy diet should pose no desire for sweet foods."

I believe KD meant that fruits such as Granny Smith apples didn't exist in the past, so it doesn't make much sense for our bodies to need whatever that fruit provides because it didn't evolve naturally--it was genetically hybridized by man and in most cases such fruits are selected and produced for their sweet flavor. Thus, when eating mindfully, it is simple to realize (both logically and intuitively) that such foods aren't necessary, for they shouldn't be in existence in all sincerity. They weren't created by the design of nature. This diet and this lifestyle advocate the re-connection with the natural environment and what is has to offer so that we may reap the benefits and correct the damage wrought by unnatural elements that poison our environments and our bodies.

KD will have to clarify, of course. I just felt like offering my interpretation.

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Hot Topics / Re: Vitamin D
« on: November 29, 2011, 04:20:29 am »
In what form do members of this board take vitamin D?

I've heard of cod liver oil being a good source. Are there others?

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: November 28, 2011, 11:38:28 pm »
Raw Paleo Diet and Eyesight
Since I've begun experimenting with a diet primarily based in raw animal foods in May of 2011 I have noticed a significant decrease in my eye strength. It takes me longer to focus when the focus of my eyes changes from an item from one depth to another. I interpret this as a good sign of a deficiency due to poor dietary choices. I have underestimated the necessity of organ meats or a small amount of vitamin-rich carbohydrates since I began this diet.

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: November 28, 2011, 11:31:26 am »
I get kind of constipated if I eat only lean raw meat. I need some fat.

I've yet to eat just lean meat at any meal. I still feel my digestion is to blame. However, I will be sure to keep eating raw fat and butter to help push a bowel movement.

Thank you for the tips, Inger!  :D

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Hot Topics / Re: Update
« on: November 28, 2011, 11:27:09 am »
Although others on this board would have you believe milk may be the devil I and some others have been having success with raw milk. I suggest you look into including raw milk/kefir in your diet.

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Journals / Re: Juzeza's Journal
« on: November 28, 2011, 02:00:33 am »
Milk Diet: Transition to Solid Foods
After three days of drinking milk and eating goose in the evening I finally passed a bowel on the fourth morning. One of the reasons I don't enjoy eating too much meat is because of the length of time required to have bowel movements. I feel a bit congested waiting around with all that sludge inside of me. Hopefully, bowel removal time will decrease over time--especially if I vary my diet to include softer foods such as yolk, milk, butter and so forth.

By the end of December I should only be consuming one quart of raw milk per day and consuming solid foods throughout the rest of the day. Now the goal is to secure a steady supply of wild meats. The goose I ate was a treat and I'm not sure if I'll be able to procure more.

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Hot Topics / Re: what happend to neolithic eden
« on: November 28, 2011, 01:55:20 am »
Contary to sabertooth's nostalgia expressed here, HSBC has other plans for the future. I found this advertisement in a recent edition of The Economist.


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Raw Weston Price / Website: Modern Nomadic Man
« on: November 28, 2011, 01:09:17 am »
I found a website called Vagabond Journey about a man who practices perpetual travel, similar to nomads but in a modern context.

The author travels to Göbekli Tepe, a sanctuary built in southeastern Turkey just north of the Syrian border. He travels to Göbekli Tepe in order to learn more about the transition of man from nomads to sedentary citizens. Göbekli Tepe is hypothesized as the birthplace of agriculture and civilization (or at least one of them). Most believe agriculture to have arisen to procure food, but the head archaeologist, Klaus Schmidt, suggests that alcohol could have been the reason behind the advent of agriculture and eventually civilization:

“You can use it [grain] for food, and you can also use it for beer,” he explained. “There are now ideas that the beginning of cereal domestication was not so much in connection with bread and with food, but with beer making, for brewing. It is easy to do it, it is not like our beer, all you need is water and if let to stand in some container it will start to produce alcohol. So maybe it was beer making at the beginning.”

The authors conclusion to the article:

"The people who built and worshiped at Göbekli Tepe were initially nomadic hunters who knew neither grain nor how to sow it, but they began to change the world around them, and eventually set the stage for the infectious spread of civilization over the planet. In a period spanning roughly a thousand years, the mechanisms where put in place through which the plains and plateaus that surround Göbekli Tepe were transformed from forest to field. I went to Göbekli Tepe, stood on the mound and looked out across an expanse that was once a lush forest full of game, herbs, shrubs, and sustenance for hunter-gatherers. That same expanse is now looks beat, having been set upon for thousands of years by goat, sheep, and plow. A lone tree sits on top of Göbekli Tepe, seemingly reminding us of a lost era in human history, a lost sense of innocence before man moved on to control the ebbs and flows of nature, of a time before my species laid down their satchels and spears and picked up hoes and plows.

The modern human is not completely the same animal as was our migratory hunter-gatherer ancestors, and I soon realized that my search for my species’ lost nomadic roots just lead me into a study of people who had a physical and mental makeup that was slightly different than my own. I am the product of 10,000 years of super charged genetic adaption which was suppose to equip me to be a part of a sedentary, agricultural, civilized society. My biology is that of Cain the farmer not Abel the nomad, but I know that the restlessness of the nomad still lives inside of the modern human, as the wolf still lives inside of every dog."

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