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Hot Topics / Re: Raw Vegan Annette Larkins at 70 looks like 30.
« on: March 01, 2012, 02:14:54 am »
I've known people in their 70s who haven't gone grey yet; Annette's dark hair doesn't discredit her, as far as I'm concerned.

I think there's room for success on a raw vegan diet as long as one has ready access to enough raw fat and freshly-picked, mineral-dense fruits, vegetables and seeds. It's also worth noting that she started eating raw after she stopped growing and having children (and mostly likely after menopause too), so her body's nutrient demands were and are lower than most of ours would be.

I don't think I'd do as well on her diet as she seems to be doing, but perhaps I'm wrong. I tried the raw vegan path for several months during my late 20s, and while it went great for the first few months my health went downhill soon after and I stopped. I think raw vegan, for most people, is a great detox diet, but for those of us who are younger, still growing, still menstruating (for women), still having kids, I'm not sure it can meet nutritional needs over the longer term.

What about the winters? I hear they are trying...

I don't find them to be trying. Temperature-wise, the winters aren't all that bad. This winter in particular has been very mild, and I've been able to swim in Lake Champlain and even sunbathe pretty much all winter long. Granted, the water temperature falls to 32 Fahrenheit and I've been sunbathing in air temps sometimes below 40 Fahrenheit, but our bodies can get used to this if we give them the chance.

As far as Vitamin D deficiency, I've never noticed any symptoms in myself, although I spend a good amount of time outdoors building and maintaining reserves so maybe I'm an outlier.

Phil, you want to add to this discussion?

Hot Topics / Re: Bill Gates, Monsanto, and Eugenics
« on: March 01, 2012, 01:56:05 am »
This is a big issue, but the other side of it is whether or not we can actually support 7+ billion people on Earth while providing them with a healthy diet. Right now we support 7+ billion, but most are forced to eat a sub-standard diet that most of us would (and do) turn our noses up at.

I live in the Champlain Valley, in Vermont. It's pretty nice. Lots of interest in local food, grass-fed livestock, green and wild space, and decent hunting opportunities. PaleoPhil lives here too.

General Discussion / Re: chicken pluck
« on: February 27, 2012, 09:39:39 am »
I wouldn't scald it either, I'd skin it and toss the skin & feathers. The skin is usually what introduces salmonella to a butchered bird, so it's not something I'd be willing to eat raw anyway.

General Discussion / Re: meat storage
« on: February 27, 2012, 09:36:25 am »
The hanging method works when you can keep the temperature down below 40 degrees. If you hung your goat in your attic in spring it would be festering with maggots within days, and while the interior meat might be fine to eat I doubt it would be very tantalizing to look at and the maggots will get most of it.

I've never tried burying, but it's a method that I'm personally interested in. Anyone know of online references that discuss the method?

General Discussion / Re: Wild Deer / Bone Marrow Question
« on: February 27, 2012, 09:31:46 am »
Deer (and other land animals) are hung to age at temperatures usually between 32 and 38 degrees Fahrenheit, so yes the marrow should be fine.

Where do you live that you can purchase wild deer? I'd be worried that they were grain fed on a ranch and not raised on a natural, diverse diet of herbs and grasses.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' real name and PhD?
« on: February 26, 2012, 08:22:05 am »
If that obituary is accurate, and as of this moment I have no reason to believe that it is not, then that's an interesting find and I'm grateful you spent the time.

I never thought to doubt AV's (or JRS's) claims to severe childhood illness, but I wonder if there's something worth looking deeper into here?

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' real name and PhD?
« on: February 26, 2012, 06:42:32 am »
I actually didn't find my way to my current diet through AV's work. I found my way here through a simple Google search, "eating raw meat". I was inspired to do the search back in late 2009 because I had recently killed my first deer and so had a huge amount of wild, fresh meat and was curious about the diversity of ways that I could prepare it.

I only bought AV's books later, and got rid of both soon after reading them. The only idea that I've held onto is the use of 'high' meat, although I haven't made or eaten any in a very long time.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' real name and PhD?
« on: February 26, 2012, 06:34:45 am »
I certainly wouldn't do that...

I didn't mean to imply that you, personally, did. I got the sense that another person was.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' real name and PhD?
« on: February 26, 2012, 03:04:31 am »
Fair enough, I'm certainly no stranger to bad health advice from 'certified' nutritionists, or from medical professionals more generally. It's amazing to me that the people who organized the Cancer Control Society conference at which he spoke didn't double-check his PhD credential before advertising it.

The main reason I'm interested in this is because I have a PhD myself (not in nutrition), and I actually earned it with 4 years of hard labor at an accredited institution. It bothers me when others claim the credential without earning it, and further bothers me when others justify lying about such credentials.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' real name and PhD?
« on: February 25, 2012, 11:59:17 pm »
And on further inspection, I don't even see any undergraduate programs in nutrition, or anything remotely related to nutrition.

Primal Diet / Re: Aajonus' real name and PhD?
« on: February 25, 2012, 11:58:05 pm »
I don't either. In fact, I don't see any PhD programs listed as being administered by this University at all.

I've never gotten a woman pregnant here in the US so can't speak from experience, but I think the description you've been given is a little extreme. I look forward to reading what others with more direct experience might say.

Hot Topics / Re: shaolin monks
« on: February 25, 2012, 07:02:23 am »
Well, this piqued my interest and I did some research of my own. I was not able to find reference to any Caucasian 'mummies', but did find this Discovery Channel documentary called Ice Age Columbus in which the theory is put forward that Europeans crossed an ice bridge from Europe to eastern North American about 17,000 years ago. As evidence they cite

1. A spear point found in Virgina dated to 17,000 years ago that replicates the style of spear point manufacture common to Europe at the time

2. A genetic marker found in supposedly pure-blooded remains of many eastern Native Americans that these populations share with Europeans

I've pasted the documentary below. Folks might find it interesting that the re-enactments portrayed in the documentary show the European colonizers eating all of their meat (and plants) RAW.

Ice Age Columbus, Who Were The First Americans?

Primal Diet / Aajonus' real name and PhD?
« on: February 25, 2012, 04:04:49 am »
I've read We Want to Live and Recipe for Living Without Disease, and while I think there are nuggets of useful information in both books I can't help but remain skeptical of AV himself. After reading widely about him, I have two questions for those who might know him personally:

1. What is AV's real name? He mentions his first name was either Richard or Dick in WWtL, but I've read that 'Vonderplanitz' is a new-age take on the German translation of "Beyond the planets" and isn't his original (or actual) last name. Any insight on this?

2. Second, I have read that AV claims to have a PhD. I'm curious what discipline his PhD is in, and what the degree granting institution was. Anyone know this?

Hot Topics / Re: shaolin monks
« on: February 25, 2012, 03:53:42 am »
...there have been many caucasian mummies dug up here going back further than any american indian remains.

Off topic, but this sounds like a pretty extraordinary claim. I assume you mean in the United States?

Hot Topics / Re: shaolin monks
« on: February 22, 2012, 08:05:35 am »
There are a lot of people on this website who believe that cooked foods kill. I personally think this is silly. There are people who live to be over 100 years old and live healthy lives eating cooked foods. What more proof is needed to show that cooked food isn't necessarily harmful? Industrially processed Franken-foods, well now that's a different issue...

General Discussion / Re: Alternative Uses for Bone Marrow Bones
« on: February 22, 2012, 06:33:52 am »
If the marrow bone has a large flat area, I clean it off and cut that part off to make bone arrow heads for hunting. Otherwise I make bone broth from it, then compost whatever is left.

Very cute. Mommy & baby chewing on opposite ends of the same carcass!

Off Topic / Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA
« on: January 25, 2012, 01:59:18 am »
I found it entertaining that Romney finally released his tax returns. 13.9 percent on $20+ million in income. Am I wrong to vomit explosively upon seeing that figure?

Raw Weston Price / Re: The Great Dance: A Hunter's Story
« on: January 08, 2012, 03:12:53 am »
Some of the bushmen eat white man's food all year round, others never eat it. Depends on which tribe they're in. Jon's told me that the tribe of Naro bushmen he spends most of his time with rarely eat civilized food.

General Discussion / Re: Raw paleo diet and BODY ODOR
« on: January 08, 2012, 12:00:26 am »
I've never had much of a problem with body odor on any diet, cooked or otherwise. Right now I depend on fat for most of my calories, but I still don't seem to get a noticeable body odor.

Raw Weston Price / Re: The Great Dance: A Hunter's Story
« on: January 07, 2012, 09:19:18 am »
Do you know what that means for them - that their individual hunting licenses have been revoked..?

Things were very challenging for the bushmen for a while, but they've recently won a series of court cases against the Botswana government and have since been allowed to re-enter the nature reserves and access water there and hunt there. As a people they are still walking the razor's edge between extinction and assimilation, but they're holding on.

A friend of mine, naturalist and tracker Jon Young, spends a couple months each year visiting with one particular tribe and he tells me for many years they were embarrassed to be bushmen, but within the last five years they've started to be proud to be bushmen again.

Raw Weston Price / The Great Dance: A Hunter's Story
« on: January 05, 2012, 07:59:46 am »
This documentary was made in 2000, but it speaks to the Paleolithic lifestyle a lot. I did a search and didn't find any reference to it, so I thought I'd provide a link. The title is The Great Dance: A Hunter's Story. It is about the San Bushmen of Africa, in particular their hunting practices.

Link on YouTube:
The Great Dance - A Hunter's Story [2000]


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