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Offline BransonEs

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Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« on: January 26, 2019, 03:35:20 am »
Hello, everyone!

I am wondering if anyone has some advice for how to possibly get over food allergies by healing your body and increasing immunity.

I have allergies to eggs, dairy,  and red meat. Makes eating raw a bit difficult. Especially in regards to eggs. I avoid red meat except for on occasion. I break out in hives and get itchy both inside and out whe. I eat red meat.

I think I either have low immunity or an overactive immune response to certain food proteins. Has anyone experienced healing of/from their allergies from going raw? Raw eggs are such an easy and accessible food for just about anyone but I have a definite immune response when I eat them. My ears start ringing, I get a rash, and I get an intense headache and some aching in my joints.

I am trying to build up eating them slowly, so I don’t know if I’m overdoing it. I’m just wondering if anyone has “cured” allergies to animal products by eating raw and if they have any advice about maybe what the best foods are to focus on for overall healing.

Thanks in advance! :)

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Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2019, 06:16:13 pm »
You need to start bombing your gut with probiotic food and healthy bacteria.

https://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/index.php?topic=316.0
This thread has information on making ''high meat'' which is fermented meat, essentially.
It will help you digest your food and give you healthy bacteria to strenghten the gut.

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Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 07:19:56 am »
I would not call them allergies, but rather current food sensitivities. I developed a lot when I ate a plant-based diet. In the end I could only eat white fish, chicken and i think 5 types of vegetables. Everything else caused big issues. I healed a lot of these sensitivities with a cooked carnivore diet plus a lot of raw dairy. A carnivore diet is the ultimate elimination diet. This should heal your vili and leaky gut, which you will likely have due to your previous veganism. If you don´t eat meat for a long time, ur body is not used to it, doesnt have the bacteria to digest it and you stomach acid will likely be very low. It´s always better to eat a raw carnivore diet rather than cooked, im sure that you can speed up your healing, but cooked worked for me too. After 6 month into carnivore I made big improvements when it comes to digesting meats (red meat was impossible for me to digest before). I also had issues with eggs, now not anymore. Pasteurized dairy I would not recommend.

Now I feel that I want to give other foods another try, so I decided to slowly transition to keto, to see if I can tolerate other foods again, and I started with fats like avocado, olive oil, coconut oil and macadamia and pecan nuts. Generally I would suggest that you eat a lot of fats, more than protein, maybe 70:30 ratio, because the meat protein could be an issue, since you increase something that ur body is not used to. I also found that my pancreas were deficient due to the previous lower fat plant-based diet. Stomach acid is only one key, bile is another important factor to break down fats. So you could be taking HCI tablets without any results, because your pancreas are not working properly. That´s at least what I think happened to me, as HCI tablets proved to be useless. Whenever I overeat protein I feel my pancreas are overworked, so I suggest to take it easy on protein. Your body might be different, just giving my point of view. Some people here question raw dairy, but for me raw cow dairy helped a lot. Especially fermented one. Raw kefir can sometimes help too. High Meat as Dingeman suggested would be a good option too, but looking back raw dairy helped me more than high meat. But u´ll see. But I think the key is to go carnivore, with absolutely no plant foods, even herbs. You could try keto instead if u can tolerate, but carnivore in my opinion is king, high fat is essential and low carb vital to lower inflammation.

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Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 03:03:31 pm »
If you focus your diet on having tons of raw fresh = never frozen animal fats like butter cream eggs and marrow which are easy to digest that will do everything you want and more
Never treat nuts and oils as fats.

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Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 01:51:42 am »
Thank you to all for the in depth responses! I’m glad to hear that others have healed allergies/intolerances to food with raw.

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Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2019, 12:44:13 pm »
I haven’t tried high meat yet. I am both scared to eat it and to prepare it. I’m afraid I won’t do it right. I’m afraid I’ll get sick when I eat it. I’m afraid of screwing something up in the preparation and killing myself.

Any advice for how to overcome this fear? I’ve read about how to make it. I’m just a bit scared to actually do it. I’m also worried about what my family will think. Lol.

Would frozen salmon work or would it need to be fresh caught? I don’t really have access to fresh trustworthy seafood, am allergic to red meat, and have no desire at all  to try chicken raw much less high.

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2019, 11:24:31 pm »
I wouldn't totally write off red meat just yet. Fish can work for some people, but obtaining good quality and the right fat profile can be very difficult and expensive, unless you have a direct source.

Perhaps you are still eating other foods which are increasing your overall immune sensitivity and triggering red meat allergies?

I would recommend doing a couple day water fast, followed by a very small portion of a pasture raised fatty cut of red meat.....to see if you still react to red meat when the body isnt being affected by any other food?

If that doesn't work I would recommend trying various other types of meat in small mono meal amounts...to see which animal food may best suit your body....If beef doesn't work out so well, then try sheep, goat, wild game, or fowl.
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Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 02:37:17 pm »
I wouldn't totally write off red meat just yet. Fish can work for some people, but obtaining good quality and the right fat profile can be very difficult and expensive, unless you have a direct source.

Perhaps you are still eating other foods which are increasing your overall immune sensitivity and triggering red meat allergies?

I would recommend doing a couple day water fast, followed by a very small portion of a pasture raised fatty cut of red meat.....to see if you still react to red meat when the body isnt being affected by any other food?

If that doesn't work I would recommend trying various other types of meat in small mono meal amounts...to see which animal food may best suit your body....If beef doesn't work out so well, then try sheep, goat, wild game, or fowl.


Thanks so much for responding to all of you. I had written replies previously and they would never post. @Sabertooth, I am going to try your advice with the water fast. I am still eating other foods and haven’t completely transitioned over yet. I have cut most grains out and most veggies and fruit because of allergic reactions. I can have blueberries. I’ve been depending a lot on raw milk and kefir for the last month. I have been having raw eggs but have allergic reactions to them. I breakout into hives on my neck and chest. I have started having raw beef marrow and seem to be fine so far but I’m eating it in small amounts.




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Re: Allergies, Immunity, and Healing
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2019, 10:51:48 pm »
It's weird but I can now eat certain foods that used to cause me allergies without problems. Are these foods still bad for me? I don't know. Maybe improving in one area allows me to lax in other areas. I wonder if there is a threshold that if you go above certain foods start bothering you that previously didn't.

 

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