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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2009, 07:48:53 am »
What did the doctor recommend, did he view significant lung damage, and is he going to monitor for additional damage from the infection? It can do very serious and even lethal damage if active.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2009, 08:22:38 am »
What did the doctor recommend, did he view significant lung damage, and is he going to monitor for additional damage from the infection? It can do very serious and even lethal damage if active.

Last year the anthroposophic doctor tried her homeopathic and anthroposophic stuff, I let my wife handle that, she likes that doctor, but it wasn't working.

So we took him to another healer who did muscle testing, same observation, but he wanted supplements and zapping.  His zapper was painful, I found it painful myself plus I didn't like his supplements.

Took him to another healer... he recommends feeding, physical activity, hydration, shouting, some exercises and more feeding.

X-ray analysis just suggests TB.

Same with the dorn and energy healer, but he saw the bone sticking out of the chest as a non issue, aligned his skeletal system, found that rough spot, diagnosed same large intestine problem as the muscle tester.

BTW for some 2 years ago we detected parasites on the boy.  He poops them at times.  Pooped some more of them when he is herbal deworming with either barefoot or humaworm.  Muscle tester healer said not all the parasite strains have been gotten rid off.

Not much sun here since June, it is rainy season.

My other 5 year old son suffered from a painful eczema breakout almost like mine this year.  Everyone in the household saw how easy and methodical his healing went on 1 week of strict raw paleo diet.  So we are expecting good results with our 8 year old.

TB is very common in the Philippines.  In the 20th century it was the top epidemic in the whole country.  I'll post an excerpt in an old mid 20th century book here.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2009, 08:31:33 am »
The following factors contribute to the prevalence of the disease (tuberculosis)
in the Islands (Philippines):

( a ) Poor housing. (not our problem) Housing was a problem even before the war.
During the Pacific battles more than 300,000 homes were destroyed
as a result of fighting and bombings so that the problem is now
much more acute. Whole families have to double up, not in houses,
but in makeshift sheds, shacks, and lean-tos (the barong-barong)
without sanitary facilities. In the razed areas of Manila and its
suburbs, it is not uncommon to find three or four families squeezed
into a shed measuring four by five yards, which leaks like a sieve
during the rainy season and which is as hot as an oven during
the summer months. Thus, spread of infection by close and con-
tinued contact is supremely easy. The War Damage Commission
could do a lot to aid in rehabilitatlon by hastening the settlement
of claims although the results will be limited by the fact that an
individual claimant cannot get more than $500.00.

It must be mentioned here that whole communities have been
wiped out in some areas, the majority of their inhabitants mas-
sacred or maimed. I n Manila virtually every federal building has
been demolished, century-old historic buildings gutted, and some
churches, museums, and libraries burned down. There is no ques-
tion but that there is a dearth of public buildings and private
dwellings in the entire young republic today.

(b) Malnutrition. (filipino traditional diet is malnourishing) Even before the war it was an admitted fact
that the Filipino race was so undernourished that every year
beriberi killed more infants than did respiratory diseases. During
the forty months of Japanese occupation not only did no imports
reach the Philippines due to the blockade but the countryside
llgewtse was stripped to feed and maintain upwards of one million
unwelcome guests (the Japanese Imperial Army had no quarter-
master supplies to speak of). The Japanese saw to it that their
troops lived off the fat of the land, not caring whether the civilians
starved. Hence, avitaminosis reared its head, and malnutrition
contributed to the death of thousands.
Even now when nutrition is better, the high cost of living (the
purchasing value of the peso is only one-fifth of its prewar level)
is still taking its toll. Statisticians are agreed that for the next
few years llving costs wffl remain higher than the prewar level.

(c) Parasitism. (my boy definitely has this) Intestinal parasitism infests about 70 per cent
of the population. Ascariasis. Schistosomiasis, hookworm disease.
tineasis, and amebiasis form the bulwark of Philippine parasites
that choose man for their host. The ascarids, hookworm, schisto-
somes and strongylids, as they pass through the lungs in their
life cycle, may cause some injury to the pulmonary tissue on their
way to their respective habitat in the human body. Whether in
this manner they predispose the lung to subsequent lodgment of
the Mycobacterium tuberculosis has not yet been fully ascertained.
I t is a fact, however, that widespread parasitism in the Islands
not only contributes to the production of secondary anemia but so
lowers the resistance of the human host that either latent tuber-
culous foci or other intercurrent diseases may readily break out.

(d) Dust and Fly problem. (we got this) These two are peculiar to the tropics
-as is the mosquito problem. Tropical dust is the most abundant
in the world. Most Philippine highways were concrete or asphalted
before the war, but the Japanese did no maintenance, and thous-
ands of heavy U. S. Army vehicles have pulverized the best of the
asphalted roads during the past two years. The dust of the high-
ways, carried away by tropical winds, gets into your eyes, your
nostrils, and into your every pore. Hence, respiratory diseases
enjoy a Roman holiday during the dry months, thereby activating
many a quiescent tuberculous focus.
As for flies, they can be found in droves every day of the year.
With garbage and sewage disposal extremely inadequate since the
end of the war, fwd, milk and water contamination plays a con-
siderable role in the spread of infectious dlseases.

(e) Economic conditions. (we can still afford paleo diet and hire a few maids and a driver) In addition to inadequate housing, the
traditional low wages prevaliing in the Orient and inflated prices
of fwd and all other commodities contribute to a low constitutional
resistance resulting in malnutrition. Mlipinos were never m l ik
drinkers, for, in a large majority of cases, fresh milk produces
either diarrhea or tympanism.

As examples of these low wages, the common laborer earns an
average of $1.50 a day; physicians in the health service in charge
of a county receive not more than $75.00 a month; clerks and
teachers about $65.00 a month. Is it any wonder then that the
children are so undernourished that they are easy prey to tuber-
culosis and other contagious diseases?

I t must be stated here, in passing, that World War II's aftermath
w i l l be felt in the Islands for the next decade. While vital statistlcs
for the whole Philippines is incomplete, tuberculosis incidence in
the city of Manila, according to the Philippine health bureau, has
risen from the pre-war figure of 9.07 per cent to 21.84 per cent,
or an increase of 251 per cent. Last year there were 2.144 deaths
due to tuberculosis in Manila, or a city incidence of 280 deaths per
100,000. At the war's end in 1945, 11,258 cases were found by the
health bureau in the same city out of 51,550 fluoroscopic and x-ray
examinations, or an incidence of 21.84 per cent.

From

The Tuberculosis Problem in the Philippines
MIGUEL CANIZARES
Chest 1948;14;759-765
DOI 10.1378/chest.14.5.759
The online version of this article, along with updated information and
services can be found online on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.chestjournal.org/content/14/5/759.citation
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2009, 02:25:43 am »
GS, I hope your son is getting better.

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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2009, 06:10:49 am »
Thanks for the thoughts.
The primary complex / tuberculosis diagnosis is just that.
It's not like the boy is debilitated. He's just thin and not growing as fast as he should be.
He still runs around, does his x-stick and watches star wars clone wars, goes to school like any happy little boy.

He doesn't want to eat raw beef in school because he is ashamed to be seen eating raw beef in school.  Cooked food peer pressure.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2009, 06:51:46 am »
What about jerky, pemmican and meats cooked rare for school and save the unprocessed raw meats for home?

BTW, if any of the other kids try his pemmican at school, they should love it. Ray Audette said his son's classmates all loved pemmican and both of my nephews that tried it loved it too, especially the younger one who hadn't eaten modern foods as long before going Paleo.

As Lex has said, while pemmican is not as good as purely raw fat and meat, it's still a good food that's far superior to what his classmates eat. It is also easier to get more calories from pemmican than it is from plain raw meat and fat, which may help him put on weight.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2009, 10:57:13 pm »
GS, sorry that you're going through this I hope it sorts out soon. I just wanted to say that I don't think there's any 'shame' in doing mainstream medical treatment for something like this.

IMO a paleo man would not be at all immune to all the hardcore strains of diseases in the modern world however healthy they were.




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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2009, 11:14:33 am »
My son is progressing.
His daily diet has gotten better.
No more rice.
Paleo diet.
Some cooked meat still, but daily lunch of raw bloody beef with me.
I trick him into watching Star Wars Clone Wars and while he's watching I keep feeding him raw beef, lots of it.

I'm now working on lessening his fruits and upping the fatty meats.

We have gone through 3 beam ray treatments.  This should take care of the TB germs.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2009, 11:19:05 am »
Planning a beach trip beginning tomorrow Friday up to Monday.
Fresh air, fresh fish, lots of sunlight and exercise.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2009, 07:17:16 am »
you're in my thoughts and prayers and i'll be keeping up on the progresses you post!

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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2009, 08:07:56 am »
Gave up the raw cow's milk after the 2nd beam ray treatment.
The diagnostics of the beam ray operator says that we had bovine tuberculin germs... probably from the raw milk.
So I stopped giving raw cow's milk.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2009, 03:51:07 pm »
hey good samaritan you might want to have a look into using bentonite clay.  www.eytonsearth.org

it is claimed to rapidly detox mercury

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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2009, 02:46:27 am »
 ok so its a simple detox that seems to be happening. Vaccines cause the disease they are suppose to cure...LITERALLY aids in africa were created in a laboratory and sold to Africans who had not been less 'civilized' by european standards( standards that caused the black plaque and many other diseases).

 No need to be scared...well yes there is a need to be scared very scared. If you were'nt scared you would'nt have the courage to know all this about health. Fear is what feeds courage, cowards are people with little or no fear. Ok now that we are done with philosophy...

Viruses are produced by the body to clean it they are nonliving.

Bacteria are living they detox.

Don't kill the germs.
Look here for the explanation it explains I will have to look at it again but I like swine flu viruses are injected with pig cells since pig cells create swine flu There are also plently of toxins in the vaccines.

Your sons body could be detoxing the toxins and have the virus in him.

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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2009, 09:18:38 pm »
This is a run down of my eldest boy’s food intake for the day.  This boy has been through the beam ray treatments so any tuberculosis germs should be obliterated.  He’s not coughing and he has no mucus no cold.  We got rid of all colds and coughs in the house when I clamped down on the diet to an almost paleo diet.

Today they left early for school and the boys were able to play for 20 minutes in the playground and exposed to sunlight.

Breakfast was rambutan fruit plus 1 fertilized raw duck egg yolk.

In school my boy had for lunch lightly seared in ghee (3 seconds per side) – tanguige fish filet from a 5 kilo whole fish I bought yesterday.

Strange he said he ate no merienda.  We ran out of rambutan.  The kids did drink some freshly squeezed maasim (sour?) dalandan juice plus water when I got home around 5:30pm.

Dinner was a feast of oysters in several disinfecting dips: freshly squeezed lemon + some sea salt, sukang tuba (coconut vinegar), sukang iloko (sugar cane vinegar from ilokos)

I supplemented his dinner with freshly killed raw beef bone marrow and freshly killed raw beef sirloin.

He ate mostly oysters.  He loves oysters.  I remember gorging on a lot of oysters a few months ago until I hit my limit.  Seems my boy hasn’t hit his limit yet.  Maybe my boy is zinc deficient.  Zinc deficiency makes children fail to thrive.  Maybe this is why he likes oysters so much.  Now he wants me to buy live oysters in the shell instead of shelled oysters in a bag.

Last night he had halaan (clams) plus white rice with raw duck egg yolks on the rice.  Trying the high everything diet on him once a week.

I have been supervising his major meals every single day to the point of spoonfeeding him and me doing the marketing and food preparation / food preparation supervision.

Maybe every single day of nutritious meals will make him bounce up in weight.  Right now he is still slim, but I noticed he is very active and very strong and very playful.



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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2009, 10:19:51 am »
Does your son each much raw meat/fat/organs or mostly seafood and fruit?

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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2009, 10:34:11 am »
Does your son each much raw meat/fat/organs or mostly seafood and fruit?

I make it a point he gets raw beef / seared beef lunch every day at lunch

I try to give him oysters or clams every other day.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2009, 06:45:10 pm »
i hope your son becomes better soon i wish you and your family the best

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« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2009, 04:36:36 am »
    Must be even harder now, given the weather catastrophe.  Sending good vibes your way.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2009, 11:24:38 am »
    How is your son?  I hope he is all better.

    I'm remembering that I read a long time ago that Gerson gave Albert Schweitzer's wife raw calf liver, as her only animal product to successfully cure her tuberculosis.

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3) adding oxidizing enzymes continuously as long as they are not reactivated and built in the body (in the form of green leaf juice and fresh calf's liver juice). This will create a near normal condition of the oxidizing system in the body, to which malignant cells with the fermentation system cannot adapt."

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At this time, Dr. Gerson attracted the friendship of Nobel prize winner Albert Schweitzer, M.D., by curing Schweitzer’s wife of lung tuberculosis after all conventional treatments had failed.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2009, 07:20:12 am »
My son survived the flash floods 2 weeks ago.
But the destruction of our home and sudden move and changes has kept my boy and the whole family off rhythm. 
Trying to establish new rhythm.
But I cannot attend to him 100% as I also needed to shift my office from physical office to virtual office.
Because I cannot attend to him he gets to eat rice again as the default food of the rest of the family are rice eaters.
But during days I'm there at minimum he is on cooked meat paleo diet. 
I believe the durian + meat only days did well to stabilize his digestive system.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2009, 10:53:55 am »
8 year old Boy’s Primary Complex / TB cure progress – Solid Stools

Our 8 year old boy is progressing nicely.  I’m satisfied, my wife is satisfied.  From my wife’s point of view, he now seems to be gaining weight.  From my point of view, there are several symptoms that have been resolved and all are linked to his digestive and food absorptive capacities.

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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2009, 11:35:58 am »
That's good news. He does look healthier.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2009, 12:43:20 pm »
My grandma saw my son last week.
She is the toughest one to satisfy.
She says my son seems to be gaining weight... with a smile!

This means my son is almost there....

His rough spot on his right arm is almost gone.... just a little more.
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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2009, 11:24:46 am »
We are doing a 3 day orange juice fast beginning today, the 26th of December.
He asked for it.
I thought he wanted only 1 day, but he specifically asked for 3 days.
Hmmm... let's see.

Here is a recent video just before christmas.

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Re: My 8 year old son has been diagnosed with tuberculosis
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2009, 11:26:48 pm »
Did he say why he wanted it?
>"When some one eats an Epi paleo Rx template and follows the rules of circadian biology they get plenty of starches when they are available three out of the four seasons." -Jack Kruse, MD
>"I recommend 20 percent of calories from carbs, depending on the size of the person" -Ron Rosedale, MD (in other words, NOT zero carbs) http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ogtan
>Finding a diet you can tolerate is not the same as fixing what's wrong. -Tim Steele
Beware of problems from chronic Very Low Carb

 

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