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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2011, 10:18:02 pm »
I'm trying to talk my wife out of circumsizing our 2 boys.


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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2011, 08:50:45 am »
It's funny that fillipino females girls would produce more smegma. Girls are dirty  ;D

Shit when feminism finally hits the Fillipino fan, probably by the time your boys start dating, then what are the women going to demand? Be very scared




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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2011, 10:11:50 am »
It's funny that fillipino females girls ...
As opposed to male girls?  ???
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2011, 10:37:59 am »
As opposed to male girls?  ???

Well it is the fillipines  ;D
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2011, 11:42:31 am »
Here's some information for you all on the truth about circumcision:

Circumcision is genital mutilation and medically unnecessary. Do you want this torture to happen to your children? : A circumcision video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6584757516627632617# Doctors oppose circumcision: www.doctorsopposngcircumcision.org San Fran circumcision ban bill may soon ban circumcision in San Francisco: www.mgmbill.org www.thewholenetwork.org www.norm.org

 

 

 

Did you know many infants die each year just like this one who died from blood loss from circumcision and doctors never tell you? http://www.drmomma.org/2010/05/death-from-circumcision.html http://newborns.stanford.edu/CircComplications.html#inclusion

 

 

 

Did you know plastibell circumcision involves cutting?

 

 

Did you know mohel circumcision involving blood sucking can cause your baby to get herpes and die?  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6898403/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/

 

Did you know circ complications and the open wound after surgery INCREASES THE RISK for UTIS, infection and death like this baby: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/11/massive-infection-takes-over-body-after.html

 

 

Did you know babies are strapped down during circumcision just like with torture: http://circumstitions.com/Images/Glossary/circumstraint.jpg http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168271_10150091971953024_502498023_6102771_7741078_n.jpg?dl=1

 

 

Did you know doctors recommend circumcision because of the amount of money they make, misinform you, and do you know baby foreskins are in cosmetics, hand creams, anti wrinkle creams, surgical supplies, etc. CIRCUMCISION IS A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY: http://www.norm-uk.org/where_do_foreskins_go.html Circumcision is psychologically damaging and traumatic: http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/ www.intactamerica.org www.circumstitions.com www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org

 

 

Get informed on genital mutilation of men and women: http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/are-you-fully-informed.html www.circumstitions.com

 

 

MOTHERS AGAINST CIRCUMCISION: http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/

 

 

Jews oppose genital mutilation: www.jewsagainstcircumcision.org bris shalom is a practice that doesn't require genital mutilation

 

 

Muslims oppose genital mutilation: http://www.quranicpath.com/misconceptions/circumcision.htmlChristians oppose it: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/06/information-on-circumcision-for.html

 

 

Catholics oppose it: http://www.catholicsagainstcircumcision.org/

 

 

Buddists, Sikihsm appreciate the foreskin and atheists and agnosts can use rational thought, research and information.

 

 

Top Reasons NOT to cut: http://circumstitions.com/reasonsnotto.html

 

 

 

Phimosis is non-surgically curable and as long as you can pee and get off you're okay, it's more of a cosmetic thing and forcible retraction as a child or infant whereas the glans are fused to the penis as a child/infant/teen can cause scars which cause infection and phimosis later in life. Wash only with water, do not retract - www.thewholenetwork.org www.intactamerica.org

 

 

Men oppose circumcision and want to be whole once more: www.tlctugger.com www.norm.org www.foregen.org

 

 

As for hygine wash with some water and circumcision INCREASES the risk of infection, HIV/AIDS, UTIs, and STIs because of the loss of the foreskin's immunological system: http://www.norm.org/lost.html

 

 

Circumcision is sexually diminishing and mutilation because it's causes the loss of the prepuce and its various errogenous tissue of the prepuce called the frenulum and frenular delta aka the male g-spot, the ridged band, 20,000-70,000 nerve endings called meisners corpuscles located on the hands, feet, and balls (which is why they're so darn sensitive and the exposed penis head aka glans isn't) and everything lost to circumcision: http://www.wholebabyrevolution.com/The-Lost-List.html

 

 

Do a simple test: rub the bottom of your hand(palm) with your fingernail then the rub the top of your hand with your fingernail. The palm being intact and the top of your hand being cut is the amount of sensation you lose to circumcision. I know it's a lot to take in but eventually you'll see the truth of genital mutilation.

 

 

Some parents even take their children to be circumcised in full knowledge of the sexual diminishing to purposely prevent them from masturbation, or having sex, or to diminish it and their sexuality and even this knew bullshit to prevent boys and girls from being gay which was insulting to me when I found out being gay myself, through genital mutilation like clitordectomy even today in NY and circumcision because they think if we have so much sexual sensitivity as a guy with intact genitalia or as a girl with a large clitoris they'd enjoy it so much that they'd somehow turn gay, you can't turn into something that you're born... In NY (search FGM in New York http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPDGk14Jkw0) you can see how parents have full knowledge of the sexual diminishment of genital mutilation for their boys and girls to purposely hinder their sex. It's sick and saddening and I understand the truth of why this happened to me, not purposefully but its blatant effects : www.historyofcircumcision.net

 

 

Men ARE affected, many men comtemplate suicide after learning what was done to them as infants or children: http://www.circumstitions.com/Shane.html http://foreskin-restoration.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=61

 

 

Women are affected too because circumcision is the cause of dryness during sex when it is not the lady's fault it's the mans because of his dry penis, causing painful sex: http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com/ Children die each year from circumcision and circumcision related complications and infections

 

 

Do you really wanna risk your child's life for this?: http://newborns.stanford.edu/CircComplications.html#inclusion

 

 

It's not yours and when you are faced by your child when they find out the truth about your circumcision deal with them, your grief, and their grief of finding out they were mutilated?

 

 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNINTACT (CIRCUMCISED) AND INTACT (WHOLE) PENII: http://hphotos-snc6.fbcdn.net/175106_10150117141913024_502498023_6417515_3672720_o.jpg

 

http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/Botched1sb.html

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2011, 11:59:00 am »
You can't let her do it..

I need to go up against grandmas and grandpas and cousins and classmates aunts and uncles maids and drivers.

They will have to resist peer pressure.

I won't be surprised if they eventually circumsize themselves behind my back though.

Wish me luck.
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2011, 12:24:07 pm »
I need to go up against grandmas and grandpas and cousins and classmates aunts and uncles maids and drivers.

They will have to resist peer pressure.

I won't be surprised if they eventually circumsize themselves behind my back though.

Wish me luck.

Good luck! Hope you show them my sites and I know any parent couldn't or most in full knowledge after watching an entire circumcision video on full volume, and with the links on circ complications and how doctors dont tell you children die from circumcision every day from bleeding and infection like in my links and pics.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2011, 12:57:13 pm »
Come on miles, you have no idea how ingrained the circumcision culture is here.

My own father forgot about circumsizing me and when I was 13 I was the one who reminded him.

When you are a boy in his puberty and the whole school laughs at you, that is peer pressure.

It was like fighting the wheat culture a few years ago.

There was one time I literally grabbed my boy kicking and crying from the dinner table at my in-laws because they were feeding him wheat based crap.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2011, 01:10:08 pm »
Come on miles, you have no idea how ingrained the circumcision culture is here
Please don't talk like that, success is the only route.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2011, 02:25:11 pm »
Well, I suppose if your boy is eventually planning to work abroad, it wouldn't be an issue. It also wouldn't surprise me if circumcision rates drop worldwide over time as the Internet is a real influence on peoples' lives nowadays. I mean the anti-circumcision lobby in the US only got going in the last couple of years, for example but is now quite a big movement.
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2011, 08:04:51 pm »
[insert heated rant]...[/]

It is lunacy at its finest. More fertility cult nonsense. Prevent heart attacks be removing the heart? never have gallstones again, have the gall bladder removed at birth. The appendix, what do we need it for anyway?. We might as well just remove it since it seems to cause a lot of problems. And now that we are at it, what is the cure for migraine, if you follow this line of thinking?...

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2011, 10:57:52 pm »
I have acne, maybe I should just have my skin removed... LOL

Once I read that a study was done on an unsuspecting crowd of people at a mock environmentalist rally.
Hundreds of people signed a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide, because they said it was destroying the planet.
So many people simply suck and are walking fails.
This is why I remain suspicious of all claims against carbon. Probably bullshit, and even if it is a problem there are worse ones to focus on.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2011, 12:06:25 am »
Once I read that a study was done on an unsuspecting crowd of people at a mock environmentalist rally.
Hundreds of people signed a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide, because they said it was destroying the planet.

    ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2011, 01:47:47 am »
[insert heated rant]...[/]... Prevent heart attacks be removing the heart? ... And now that we are at it, what is the cure for migraine, if you follow this line of thinking?...

    Thankfully we in this forum may have eyes that see.  Example, some extreme vegans basically preach that if sick animals that are then burnt in the flesh is unhealthy for us to eat, that healthy flesh becomes an unhealthy food, just by the fact it is animal too.  Their wills prevent them from waking up, and their fear, not just their fear of being natural.  I hope all people stop lying to themselves soon about health, for themselves the world, for the present, future and their ancestors.  How can they allow themselves to continue to be so brain-dead in their lack of paying full attention to their health?  Wake up world of people!!

    Be a healthy piece of celery, eat a raw stalk today :)  Ask your doctor or pharmacist.  Get circumcised today, it cleans off that dirty skin.  Rest your head, the certified and licensed will think for you, so you'll never want to learn how.  Ignorance is bliss.  
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2011, 05:01:53 am »
Once I read that a study was done on an unsuspecting crowd of people at a mock environmentalist rally.
Hundreds of people signed a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide, because they said it was destroying the planet.

Oh Lawdy... ;D

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I hope all people stop lying to themselves soon...

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2011, 06:49:22 am »
I have acne, maybe I should just have my skin removed... LOL
You'd fit right in in the American medical community. ;D

Catholics oppose it: http://www.catholicsagainstcircumcision.org/
If you mean that some Catholics oppose it, that's true (is there some kind of ban against using the word "some" on the Internet for some reason ???  ;D ). I wish it were true of all Catholics, but it of course isn't, as GS has pointed out that there is much pressure to circumcise in the Catholic Philippines, and my parents are devout Catholics and had me circumcised.

I was very active in the US Catholic church up through my mid 20s and was more versed in the Catechism than 99% of Catholics and I never heard of opposition to circumcision in the Church until I started seeing it get mentioned in this forum. As a matter of fact, I don't recall ever hearing about any opposition to it or controversy until I came here, beyond the fact that the hospitals used to do it without anesthesia until rather recently. They used to stupidly assume that babies felt no pain from it (why? because they can't talk and tell the doctor it hurts? super dumb) until someone actually researched it and found the opposite--babies are more sensitive to pain, not less.

I even listen to the BBC and have never heard about the issue from the Beeb. All I've ever heard about on the news is female genital mutilation controversies, never male. So this has been very eye opening. Thank goodness for the Internet!
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2011, 09:35:25 am »
[insert heated rant]...[/]

It is lunacy at its finest. More fertility cult nonsense. Prevent heart attacks be removing the heart? never have gallstones again, have the gall bladder removed at birth. The appendix, what do we need it for anyway?. We might as well just remove it since it seems to cause a lot of problems. And now that we are at it, what is the cure for migraine, if you follow this line of thinking?...

Prevent drowning,  ban water!

Exactly. The geniuses who cultivate this nonsense seem to have expertise at it - if it can get infected - remove it!

It exposes mucosa that's not meant to be air-dried all day, or be in contact with clothes fabric. Good luck GS, success will be important in the long term.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2011, 06:07:49 pm »
Ignorance is bliss.  

And yeah PaleoPhil you're right just posted it as catholics opposed it to get the message out. I appeal too all audiences and religions :) cause circ is religious and people will do anything a book says ie fgm and mgm in this world. So many people will fight arms against fgm but few will fight mgm. Genital integrity to all. An end to genital mutilation of males and females.


DID YOU KNOW THE CDC RECOMMENDED FGM LAST YEAR AKA FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION? GOOGLE CDC RECOMMENDS FGM, THE CDC HAS NO CREDIBILITY FOR RECOMMENDED GENITAL MUTILATION OF MALES AND FEMALES.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2011, 01:47:17 am »
DID YOU KNOW THE CDC RECOMMENDED FGM LAST YEAR AKA FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION? GOOGLE CDC RECOMMENDS FGM, THE CDC HAS NO CREDIBILITY FOR RECOMMENDED GENITAL MUTILATION OF MALES AND FEMALES.

    I hope you know I didn't mean that "ignorance is bliss" thing.

    All I found was http://icpa4kids.org/Wellness-Articles/cdc-set-to-recommend-male-circumcision.html

    Do you have a better link showing the CDC recommending it?
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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2011, 05:20:50 am »
Do you have a better link showing the CDC recommending it?

Cut your penis or you will get HIV and die!! (possible exaggeration)

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm

They even say that some men report better secks after penis filet time.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2011, 07:35:11 am »
    I hope you know I didn't mean that "ignorance is bliss" thing.

    All I found was http://icpa4kids.org/Wellness-Articles/cdc-set-to-recommend-male-circumcision.html

    Do you have a better link showing the CDC recommending it?


Oh no I meant you were right RawZi lol. Ignorance is bliss for the sheeple of the world :p


CDC recommends FGM aka female genital mutilation: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UnNews:CDC_advocates_female_genital_mutilation best article I could dig up even though it's from uncyclopedia.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2011, 07:02:17 pm »
Lloyd Schofield of San Francisco was successful in collection 7,700 correct signatures for his suggestion to make male circumcision illegal. It has been confirmed by election administrators that his suggestion will be on the city's November ballot. But the suggestion will meet opposition in the form of United States Representative Brad Sherman's measure to stop San Francisco and other cites from prohibiting circumcision. The proposed measure is called the Religious and Parental Rights Defense Act of 2011. I read this here: San Francisco to vote on circumcision issue.

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Re: Circumcision to become mandatory in the United States?
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2011, 01:59:46 pm »
www.SFMGMBILL.org

The San Francisco Male Genital Mutilation(all forms including circumcision, castration, infibulation, pricking, etc) is still up.

The text:

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Welcome to the San Francisco MGM Bill website

Your support will help us to protect ALL infants and children in San Francisco from the pain and harm caused by forced genital cutting.   Damage ranges from excruciating pain, nerve destruction, loss of normal, natural and functional tissue, infection, disfigurement and sometimes death.



Initiative Language

ARTICLE 50: GENITAL CUTTING OF MALE MINORS



SEC. 5001.  PROHIBITION OF GENITAL CUTTING OF MALE MINORS.

Except as provided in SEC. 5002, it is unlawful to circumcise, excise, cut, or mutilate the whole or any part of the foreskin, testicles, or penis of another person who has not attained the age of 18 years.



SEC. 5002.  EXCEPTIONS.

(a) A surgical operation is not a violation of this section if the operation is necessary to the physical health of the person on whom it is performed because of a clear, compelling, and immediate medical need with no less-destructive alternative treatment available, and is performed by a person licensed in the place of its performance as a medical practitioner.



(b) In applying subsection (a), no account shall be taken of the effect on the person on whom the operation is to be performed of any belief on the part of that or any other person that the operation is required as a matter of custom or ritual.



SEC. 5003.  PENALTY.

Any person who violates any provisions of this Article shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction such person shall be punished by a fine not to exceed $1,000 or by imprisonment in the County Jail for a period not to exceed one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. "

 

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