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« on: September 19, 2010, 07:09:24 pm »
Hi,

I want to add raw eggs to my already increasing raw diet.

However I am concerned about Salmonella, mainly because I can currently only get Organic Free-range eggs from the supermarket (Tesco). It says on the box that the chickens are vaccinated against Salmonella, which I guess is not the best of moves!

What is the general opinion on this?

Is it not worth the risk, unless I can find a good local supplier?
Or would you go for the raw option over cooked even with supermarket eggs?

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2010, 07:45:52 pm »
I personally don't consider supermarket eggs as real eggs.  They're fake.  No sperm.

Maybe the other guys can help you with sourcing real eggs.
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2010, 08:23:34 pm »
I'm consuming supermarket eggs and I am suspecting that the egg yolks are making my face look puffy. I can't think of any other foods right now..

Is it possible to be intolerant to raw egg yolk or any hormones in the yolk causing the facial puffiness ? I have been consuming free range and cage eggs on and off.

For the thread poster. I have never gotten ill from consuming supermarket cage eggs. Although I always was the shells before cracking them.

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2010, 08:32:04 pm »
Thanks for the advice.

Anyone else any thoughts on this matter?

I am going to have a look round for some decent eggs.

What am I looking for?

And what to avoid?
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2010, 11:34:08 pm »
I personally don't consider supermarket eggs as real eggs.  They're fake.  No sperm.

Maybe the other guys can help you with sourcing real eggs.

How do you know if eggs have been fertilised, and what is the difference?
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2010, 11:51:42 pm »
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2010, 01:55:34 pm »
Supermarket eggs are of inferior quality to pasture raised ones. It's upto you whether you want to eat them. I've experimented with eating organic, cage free eggs but the yolk part tastes bitter raw, compared to the pasture raised one which has a pleasant taste to it.




Now, that said, I don't think you need to worry about salmonella from the organic eggs. Experiment with it, and depending on if you have access to other quality food, I would only eat
those eggs occasionally, and not as a staple.


I once contacted an organic egg farmer and I asked him some questions, he said sometimes they roast their soy grains before giving it to the hens. I also inferred from what else he said that they do not go outside much.....and a bunch of hens crammed into a henhouse does not seem healthy.


Now, I personally..have access to pastured eggs. If I didn't have access to it, I might experiment with the organic eggs and try them, but I wouldn't want to use them as a staple.

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 02:11:55 pm »
There is a simple way to tell the quality of an egg. The eggwhite. If it is slimy and thick, down with it. If it is runny or water like, dont touch...

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2010, 02:27:51 pm »
There is a simple way to tell the quality of an egg. The eggwhite. If it is slimy and thick, down with it. If it is runny or water like, dont touch...
That generally only tells you the freshness of the egg.
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2010, 02:41:07 pm »
That generally only tells you the freshness of the egg.

I have another experience. The supermarked cage ones are always runny, regardless of how fresh they are.

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2010, 02:52:23 pm »
I have another experience. The supermarked cage ones are always runny, regardless of how fresh they are.
Lol I guess that says something about the freshness of super market eggs.
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2010, 03:07:46 pm »
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 05:44:19 am »
I add raw eggs to a smoothie every morning.

Cage free, organic, and free range are all terms that don't mean much. The chickens can still be crammed into a building and never see the light of day. Look for "pastured" on the carton.

I drive out to the country and get my eggs from a farmer and can see the chickens running around the farm eating bugs. The yoaks are dark orange. I'm lucky.
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2010, 06:09:59 am »
I can get hold of high quality pastured eggs, I'm lucky too. In my opinion regular eggs aren't worth it. I would go for beef fat, even if grainfed.

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2010, 10:28:51 pm »
Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated.

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010, 05:13:26 pm »
Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated.
Hey technosmith; have you managed to track down any pastured eggs here in the UK?

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2010, 10:21:47 pm »
Hey,

I have found a couple of local 'farmers', who are selling free range eggs.

However, I am still unsure as regards freshness, and what they are feeding the chickens, so not doing the raw egg thing until I get those answers.

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2010, 10:49:31 pm »
Don’t worry about freshness, some people like very old raw eggs. Their taste is very different from fresh ones and different from one specimen to the other: some rot and get very bad but some may be tasty and therefore good. So, you may either like it or dislike it according to your own particular metabolism and body needs.

But all the farmers feed their hens with industrial chicken fodder and/or heated grain and even wheat and/or old bread and cooked leftovers. That makes their eggs unsuitable for us.
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2010, 12:02:42 am »
Hi Iguana,

So you are saying that freshness is kind of irrelevant when it comes to raw eggs, but don't eat them anyway because of what the chickens are fed on.

Right?

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2010, 12:25:22 am »
Right!

We have to find someone who supplements his free range poultry with raw stuff only, or else have our own poultry. We may perhaps eat once in way one or two commercial free range organic eggs, but not often and not many, unfortunately.
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2010, 01:39:22 am »
Hey Iguana,

Just wondered, I am going to be getting some fish to eat raw from a local fishmonger, however I am unsure of the quality and freshness of the stuff I am buying (Tuna, Swordfish, Mackerel).

Would you take an precautionary measures, such as freezing for 14days/ soaking in lemon juice, prior to eating?

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2010, 02:22:14 am »
I don't consume fish that has been frozen, so I just ask whether its fresh or defrosted. On Tuesdays, fish is generally fresh, otherwise it's from last week and they should not sell it. Anyway, you can also ask the fishmonger when the fish arrived. Tuna, swordfish and mackerel are wild fish, so in principle it's ok.

In instincto we do not mix different stuff, hence no soaking in lemon nor anything added. This way we feel rather exactly what and how much to eat and we don't eat something we shouldn't eat - just like our far ancestors did and how animals still do in nature.
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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2010, 02:31:15 am »
Thanks for the advice. Appreciated.

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Re: Raw eggs
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2010, 05:41:46 am »
In instincto we do not mix different stuff, hence no soaking in lemon nor anything added. This way we feel rather exactly what and how much to eat and we don't eat something we shouldn't eat - just like our far ancestors did and how animals still do in nature.
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I've always just seen that as a part of paleo in general.
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