Current news topics re bizarre male sexual behaviour

[goodsamaritan]

Ah, it seems that a private detective in the US has done a check of Schwarzenegger's private life and has stated that Arnie mainly prefers to have sex with ugly/unattractive women as he is a bit timid/shy in the presence of beautiful women.

That's interesting.  I had a classmate in college... handsome guy... always gets girlfriends who were ugly...

[wodgina]

Shriver knew all along. Women just know this stuff and they are prepared to share their alpha of all alpha males. She released the story because she was ready to cash in.

There is nothing less bizarre (TD) than an alpha spreading his seed indiscriminantely.

[raw-al]

Late Breaking News!!!!

In honor of Governor Schwartzenegger, a new commandment has been added to the Bible.   
Be sure to write this one in underneath the other ten:

"Thou Shalt Not Share Thy Rod With Thy Staff"

[goodsamaritan]

Shriver knew all along. Women just know this stuff and they are prepared to share their alpha of all alpha males. She released the story because she was ready to cash in.

There is nothing less bizarre (TD) than an alpha spreading his seed indiscriminantely.

I second the motion.
It's what alpha males do.
It's what males with extra money do.

[raw-al]

Had a conversation with a  lady from some Muslim African country last weekend. She said her grandad had 9 wives, her dad had two and she said she would not object under certain conditions if her husband did the same. He was there during the conversation and wasn't particularly concerned about what she said. She also quite seriously suggested that she was working on changing the face of the system to allow women to have more than one husband.

I also discovered that the system is not as simplistic as us western world/non-Muslims think.

There are rules for the game. There are also advantages for the women and society in general.

Our society lets nasty women run amuck with ridiculous rules about political correctness and - equality - whatever that is.

[sabertooth]

http://www.cracked.com/article_18559_6-famous-geniuses-you-didnt-know-were-perverts.html

Fun facts,
here we have six famous perverted geniuses, lol

"You can't blame me; we were young and she was willing
Albert Einstein

[TylerDurden]

Well, I have always been leery of Einstein's science so am not surprised that his behaviour outside that field was also dismal. James Joyce is one of the most boring writers I have ever read, so who cares? But Mozart on a par with Marquis De Sade re coprophilia? Well that's another one demoted from hero-status in my view.

[goodsamaritan]

Go Einstein!
That was funny.

[zbr5]

This idea of mono/poly-gamy occupies my mind a lot recently. I am getting married this summer and it might be the reason why it kicks in now. Because, funny enough the closer it is to wedding date the more I am in touch with my raw male energy that includes approaching women I do not know, flirting, physical contact, taking risks, wanting to show off with my good qualities and impress women I am attracted to but do not know yet very well. 

All of this was in the state of sleep before and it kicks in in this very moment. I know this might be a part of fear of commitment- I think everyone have it and need to deal with it.  But on the other hand I do not find my emerging desires unhealthy or unwelcome. It is good to feel all of this, regardless of what voice of my culture and my own superego has to say about it. And in my own mind it is nothing untruthful and bad too. Because the interesting thing is that my love to my fiancee is at its peak right now. It is my consciouss decision to marry her and existence this desires to flirt with other women does not mean that I do not  love her or I got tired with her or anything else. I know it is how she would think when she happened to know about it (she does not) and she would feel hurt and let down and unloved. But the fact is: in my male eyes I do love her and respect her and appreciate her and still long for sexual contact with other women.

And I am in really fucked up situation about it because:
1) I cant even bring it up with her because even discussing about it would hurt her and could spoil our bond together
2) I cant just act my impulses out freely - it would be cheating - it is too stresfull for me, and I have too much respect for her to risk the possibility of her embarassment disapointment.
3) I can pretend everything is ok and give up this part of myself as I was doind my whole life, but hey it is a vital part of me that is real and very important. Maybe someone suggests that I should work on bringing back the fire between us, into the relationship. But I think it is not possible - 10year old relationship has different kind of "fire" - we still have great intimacy and sexual relationship but it is definately not the same thing that I described in first part of this post.

So i start to wonder..is it me or has our culture gone astray in regards to our sexuality at some point? And it it is the case, what is ideal model? Because giving up marriange or lifetime relationships do not seem to work very well as we can see in swingers communities.

[nicole]

i've found that most men cheat on there wives because they arent getting the respect at home. that is why they usual cheat with some one they are older and superior to at work or someplace else. and most of the masculine men i've talked to would not feel okay with there wives cheating on them and would leave them in a second, my boyfriend especially. i dont think polymory is a healthy relationship because what if someone gets pregnant? who's kid is it?

[sabertooth]

If men cheat because of not getting enough respect from the home front, then why do wives cheat? And why can't the man just leave if he's not being respected anyway, instead of causing so much heartache and pain?

My wife just wanted to know?

[sabertooth]

And I am in really fucked up situation about it because:
1) I cant even bring it up with her because even discussing about it would hurt her and could spoil our bond together
2) I cant just act my impulses out freely - it would be cheating - it is too stresfull for me, and I have too much respect for her to risk the possibility of her embarassment disapointment.
3) I can pretend everything is ok and give up this part of myself as I was doind my whole life, but hey it is a vital part of me that is real and very important. Maybe someone suggests that I should work on bringing back the fire between us, into the relationship. But I think it is not possible - 10year old relationship has different kind of "fire" - we still have great intimacy and sexual relationship but it is definately not the same thing that I described in first part of this post.

So i start to wonder..is it me or has our culture gone astray in regards to our sexuality at some point? And it it is the case, what is ideal model? Because giving up marriange or lifetime relationships do not seem to work very well as we can see in swingers communities.

My(wife's) advice would be, BEFORE you make the lifelong commitment to be with this woman and this woman only... take a looong time to evaluate the situation, the reality of the situation, and if you can keep these feelings to yourself, let them go completely, or act on them. I guess at the heart of what I'm trying to say is... don't marry this woman who loves/trusts you, only to turn around and decide you cannot keep "pretending everything is ok" anymore two or three years down the road, possibly when children are now involved as well.  

edit
I feel your pain and would like to give you my Ernest advice but I cant because my better half wouldn't approve of me giving 'bad advice' to strangers. All I was trying to suggest is that you convince the woman you love to share you with a mutual lover, believe me there are women that are into that kind of thing and its worth thinking about, even if its only fantasy. If a woman truly loves you then she would want to do what ever makes you a happy man, even if it involves hot threesome action.

Thats the other part of my advice is to just be happy developing healthy fantasies as an outlet for overabundant sexual energy. You don't have to tell her everything(trust me they realty don't want to know EVERYTHING)just seek out some healthy boarders and boundedness and let her know that you will honor her, while at the same time testing her to see if she will allow for some hot side action. Pretty please with sugar on top.

Also
About the Muslim world, there is actually a secret acceptance of infidelity among the men . They say you are aloud to have up to 4 girlfriends on the side as long as you are discrete and don't get caught. They also say its fine to leave your woman if she Denys you sex for over a month.

At least this is what my Palestinian friend told me(I don't know how much of it is Bs.)

[goodsamaritan]

This idea of mono/poly-gamy occupies my mind a lot recently. I am getting married this summer and it might be the reason why it kicks in now. Because, funny enough the closer it is to wedding date the more I am in touch with my raw male energy that includes approaching women I do not know, flirting, physical contact, taking risks, wanting to show off with my good qualities and impress women I am attracted to but do not know yet very well.  

All of this was in the state of sleep before and it kicks in in this very moment. I know this might be a part of fear of commitment- I think everyone have it and need to deal with it.  But on the other hand I do not find my emerging desires unhealthy or unwelcome. It is good to feel all of this, regardless of what voice of my culture and my own superego has to say about it. And in my own mind it is nothing untruthful and bad too. Because the interesting thing is that my love to my fiancee is at its peak right now. It is my consciouss decision to marry her and existence this desires to flirt with other women does not mean that I do not  love her or I got tired with her or anything else. I know it is how she would think when she happened to know about it (she does not) and she would feel hurt and let down and unloved. But the fact is: in my male eyes I do love her and respect her and appreciate her and still long for sexual contact with other women.

And I am in really fucked up situation about it because:
1) I cant even bring it up with her because even discussing about it would hurt her and could spoil our bond together
2) I cant just act my impulses out freely - it would be cheating - it is too stresfull for me, and I have too much respect for her to risk the possibility of her embarassment disapointment.
3) I can pretend everything is ok and give up this part of myself as I was doind my whole life, but hey it is a vital part of me that is real and very important. Maybe someone suggests that I should work on bringing back the fire between us, into the relationship. But I think it is not possible - 10year old relationship has different kind of "fire" - we still have great intimacy and sexual relationship but it is definately not the same thing that I described in first part of this post.

So i start to wonder..is it me or has our culture gone astray in regards to our sexuality at some point? And it it is the case, what is ideal model? Because giving up marriange or lifetime relationships do not seem to work very well as we can see in swingers communities.

HOW MONOGAMY REALLY WORKS... hard truth.

Healthy men have abundant sex drive to go around. (you are raw paleo so you will have abundant sex drive until you die of old age)

You are normal.  Your thoughts are normal.

I will give you a tip on how monogamous marriages really work in the 21st century and has so in the past 20th century:

1. Man really loves his wife.  Wife (#1 wife material woman) really loves husband.

2. Wife initiates sperm wars before marriage and during marriage... see chick flick (movie) "Love Affair" 1994.  Women like being DISCREET.  Males like you must defend yourself by ensuring all the children she gives birth to are yours by DNA / Paternity Tests.  If a child is not yours, you let your entire clan know woman has cheated your ENTIRE CLAN.  Child is not your child, child is not their nephew, child is not their grandchild.

3. Man realizes wife does not match his continuous sex drive.  Women do not like sex when it is menstruation related, when they are sick, when they are pregnant, when they have just given birth, when they don't want additional children.

So man resorts to mistresses (you have a child with her), f*ck buddies, prostitutes (now called escort services, massage parlor attendants, KTV girls, etc.)

The trick here is that the ideal monogamous man knows his #1 love and commitment of time, money, effort is his #1 wife.  And the ideal monogamous man is DISCREET about all this.  He does not advertise to his #1 love that he "gets it off" of other women.  So make sure you have extra money for yourself, do not surrender all your money to your #1 wife, you have your own money for your sex budget... all the while still keeping your commitment to your #1 wife and #1 wife's children.

The #2 and #3 women / mistresses are totally attracted to monogamous discreet males like you.  They absolutely adore / love that you are happily married, that you are ENDORSED by a #1 woman.  They just want a piece of your time and your sperm for their child.  They don't ask much like your #1 woman.  If they want to be #1 you need to drop them.  So do not give your complete identity and complete contact numbers to these women so they don't go crazy and call your #1 wife.  You don't want that.

You can give a copy of the book ETIQUETTES for MISTRESSES by Julie Yap Daza to your mistresses so they know their place.

This is what I can say a template of how monogamous marriages / societies really work to balance out the sexual needs of people.

As you can see the women all just want a piece of you.  They don't want to be around you all the time.  If you stick like a lizard to a woman she will feel choked to death, not able to breath, women need space, they don't want a man to be there 100% of the time.  It is this realization in ISLAM monogamy that a good number of wives is 3 to 4 wives per good man.  If you talk with islamic women, they are happy with this arrangement and they like this arrangement.  Same with FLDS women... see reality show "sister wives."

The bottom line is you man --- make lots of money --- much much money --- and no wife will complain.  It is only when man lacks money that women complain.  So make sure you make lots of money.

We raw paleo dieters need to get together and do international trade.

[raw-al]

i've found that most men cheat on there wives because they arent getting the respect at home. that is why they usual cheat with some one they are older and superior to at work or someplace else. and most of the masculine men i've talked to would not feel okay with there wives cheating on them and would leave them in a second, my boyfriend especially. i dont think polymory is a healthy relationship because what if someone gets pregnant? who's kid is it?

You are very accurate about why men cheat.

The reason they cheat with younger women who report to them has little to do with appearance or age or position in the workplace. I say typically because men do not necessarily like women who are younger or better looking.

Women who are insecure think that, but it's not true. (I don't get that you are insecure BTW Nicole, quite the opposite...)

The reason is that as you mentioned the guy is treading water at home with someone who is leaning on them for whatever reason and when they get out of the pressure cooker (house) and are in the office, a girl working there (who might be younger or older) is really nice to them (women are very good at this, thank Gud) and it lights their fuse.

It's not typically anything to do with sex either. Even though guys are generally pretty motivated to do whooppee.... : ) I can't speak for others BTW  

It's generally about respect.

If I cheated on my GF or vice versa, that would probably spell the end, because that is the society we live in.

I am quite adept at looking at the menu, like most people, but I eat at home.

GS,

What is a KTV girl ?  FLDS woman?

I agree with what you say but our society frowns on that even though it is based on ignorance on our part.

My GF and I love being around each other a lot, doing whoopee etc but we do need the occasional break from each other.

[raw-al]

I remember taking a course with Landmark Education. The teacher was a gal who was not attractive at all. Not even a little. She was particularly unattractive! She told us a story about how she got married to illustrate how to be "unreasonable" to us students.

One day she noticed all her friends had babies and she had no BF. (long story left out  )

She decided she would get married in one year.

She started by saying something really nice to all the guys at the office every day whenever she saw an opportunity. She kept a log of all the times she said something nice and made a goal to do more each day. Pretty soon she became the hit of the office, had guys coming talking  to her and telling their secrets etc.

She was relentless and set goals of going on dates, had multiple suiters and was having a great time playing the field, having fun, not fun manipulating, but just enjoying being around guys. She learned which ones were a good idea and which ones weren't and gradually narrowed down the field to who she really wanted to father her children. In other words the ball was in her court that ensured she could do the choosing as much as it was in the men's court as they strutted their stuff.

She ended up figuring who was the lucky guy and then went for gold.

She didn't just sit around waiting for the phone to ring. BTW she wasn't a particularly flashy or gregarious girl either.

Sometimes marriage partners develop a sense of entitlement after awhile. Marriages morph as people take each other for granted and figure they are married to a verbal punching bag. This is why monogamy can be trying.

[nicole]

raw-al you're right about marriages being the punching bag. it seems like today a persons family are the people that they treat the worst: husband, wife, and kids. the home should be a refuge from the world not the place you are on your worst behaviour.
sabertooth: the husbands dont want to leave because of the children usually. the wives usually cheat for the opposite reason: they dont respect their husbands. Or the husbands don't demand respect. well thats just what i've noticed.

[sabertooth]

What is tricky for me is to know how to demand enough respect to keep her from misbehaving without becoming overbearing.

I would like to give the woman I love plenty of space to be herself and interact with others freely (within cyberspace), but it seems if I go too long without checking up on her she will go astray(there are so many cyber sluts out there to tempt her) and I will have to get a little real from time to time to let her know what I will tolerate as appropriate behavior.

What do you do as a man when you find these types of messages on her face book

      
Dougie
       So I noticed you. I think that's a good way to say it. And I know we haven't talked  before.But  if you don't mind. I'd like to get to know you a little better.
    * Is that too quick.....I never have believed in wasting time....

Sarah      No it's not too quick.

Dougie      I work, go to school, and do the same. My kids are pretty much my life. I bet I can bring the quiet right out of you Miss Sarah. By the way you have gorgeous blue eyes. Just had to throw that your way.
    *
      Or are they a ligt hazel/blue green? Either way, gorgeous
    *
      I guess my last message didnt go through...sorry..
    *
      I was saying that I work, go to school, and love my kids. And that you have beautiful eyes. This really wasn't near as good a message as the one I thought I sent.
    *
      ooh it did go through...now i just feel silly..lol
    *
      You think you could call me sometime...I'd like to ask you out to a movie or sometihing...If I could steal you away from your kids for a while

#

Dougie

    *
      Well if you think it's possible just let me know...my number is *. I look forward to hearing from you now...don't let me down......just playing if it's too fast or you're not interested just let me know..I won't be mad.,,,but it'll hurt my feelings if I didn't make a friend tonight Miss Sarah...Goodnight sweety...

 I am forced to send nasty messages to these whores all the time
and my little woman encourages them, that's whats really disrespectful and insulting

This is a tame example of the drama I have to deal with.

After a confrontation She will put up an indignant front but usually after a day of pouting and calling me a hypocrite , she will submit and let me dish out some reconciliation love.(and let me tell you its about the best kind of love you can get)

[sabertooth]

Anyone else want to air out some dirty laundry.

[eveheart]

Anyone else want to air out some dirty laundry.

I'm currently seeing two butchers. One has really good marrow bones. The other can give me fresh liver. They don't know about each other. I'm hoping I don't slip and tell the liver guy that I enjoyed the marrow, or vice versa.

[wodgina]

What is tricky for me is to know how to demand enough respect to keep her from misbehaving without becoming overbearing.

I would like to give the woman I love plenty of space to be herself and interact with others freely (within cyberspace), but it seems if I go too long without checking up on her she will go astray(there are so many cyber sluts out there to tempt her) and I will have to get a little real from time to time to let her know what I will tolerate as appropriate behavior.

What do you do as a man when you find these types of messages on her face book

      
Dougie
       So I noticed you. I think that's a good way to say it. And I know we haven't talked  before.But  if you don't mind. I'd like to get to know you a little better.
    * Is that too quick.....I never have believed in wasting time....

Sarah      No it's not too quick.

Dougie      I work, go to school, and do the same. My kids are pretty much my life. I bet I can bring the quiet right out of you Miss Sarah. By the way you have gorgeous blue eyes. Just had to throw that your way.
    *
      Or are they a ligt hazel/blue green? Either way, gorgeous
    *
      I guess my last message didnt go through...sorry..
    *
      I was saying that I work, go to school, and love my kids. And that you have beautiful eyes. This really wasn't near as good a message as the one I thought I sent.
    *
      ooh it did go through...now i just feel silly..lol
    *
      You think you could call me sometime...I'd like to ask you out to a movie or sometihing...If I could steal you away from your kids for a while

#

Dougie

    *
      Well if you think it's possible just let me know...my number is 8594926661..I look forward to hearing from you now...don't let me down......just playing if it's too fast or you're not interested just let me know..I won't be mad.,,,but it'll hurt my feelings if I didn't make a friend tonight Miss Sarah...Goodnight sweety...

 I am forced to send nasty messages to these whores all the time
and my little woman encourages them, that's whats really disrespectful and insulting

This is a tame example of the drama I have to deal with.

After a confrontation She will put up an indignant front but usually after a day of pouting and calling me a hypocrite , she will submit and let me dish out some reconciliation love.(and let me tell you its about the best kind of love you can get)

She's testing you it's how you handle these girl tests. Your not alone Saber ha ha.

[goodsamaritan]

She's testing you it's how you handle these girl tests. Your not alone Saber ha ha.

Yes, she's testing you.  Women test their men from time to time.
And yes, women will want a variety of sperm donors, we always should be ready for sperm wars.
Raw oysters are your friend.
As healthy raw paleos our sperm army should overwhelm the non raw paleo sperm wimps.
When in doubt, DNA / Paternity tests to the rescue.
It's just the way things are.

[wodgina]

Did a male really write those messages? hard to believe. Who writes like that? You should tease her about her facebook boyfriends, make fun of the facebook desperado's (which wouldn't be hard by the looks of it)

[nicole]

you should definitly tell her you wont stand for another man talking to her like that. and definitely dont give into her because you want to have sex. that is the worst thing you can do. let her pout as long as she wants and dont give in. my boyfriend would never allow another man to talk to me like that.

[raw-al]

I'm currently seeing two butchers. One has really good marrow bones. The other can give me fresh liver. They don't know about each other. I'm hoping I don't slip and tell the liver guy that I enjoyed the marrow, or vice versa.

ROFLMAO !!!!

Let us know how it works out for you.

It's a good thing you are not depending on another for some fresh heart. That could get confusing.

I gave my heart to this wonderful woman and she ditched me for some bone marrow.

[sabertooth]

Yeah the guy was a total loser

My wife claims she didn't delete the message and encouraged the guy to test my reactions.
I messaged the guy and told him to fuck off motherfucker, and then I messaged her girlfriend and told her to talk some sense into her. Now she is trying to act all sweet and loving because I am willing to fight for her love, but I know its just feminine deception.

All in all I think its just the wicked games that women play, and I cant resist her charms and forgive her time after time. I cant help it.

Perhaps I am being weak