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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: goodsamaritan on October 06, 2011, 08:35:05 am
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My 10 year old boy has an eczema outbreak! Very bad. Very painful. Cush will be missing class today again for the 2nd straight day. His eczema crept up on us until it became bad. Busy parents. We realized this on the evening of October 4, 2011 and I took the reigns and said… no compromise. Do what it takes.
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/06/child-eczema-treatment-child-eczema-cure-part-01-with-video/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/06/child-eczema-treatment-child-eczema-cure-part-01-with-video/)
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I recommend raw animal fats, vitamin D, and sun exposure. This is an autoimmune issue, and the vitamin D will calm down his immune system.
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It looks bad. Any idea what triggered it? I'm going to follow this. I want to see how it cures. Your son's face is beautiful. Would coconut oil on the skin help?
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It looks bad. Any idea what triggered it? I'm going to follow this. I want to see how it cures. Your son's face is beautiful. Would coconut oil on the skin help?
My guesses are:
- the known sand flies in his school woods area where they do gardening
- the laundry soap brand from Amway where my mother in law is a member of
- maybe his liver is just weak and cannot handle the above two plus all the cooked meat and rice... this son of ours the first born received all our bad pre-health aware crap ( soya in eutero, soya, vaccines, drugs in eutero )
I recommend raw animal fats, vitamin D, and sun exposure. This is an autoimmune issue, and the vitamin D will calm down his immune system.
Any vitamin D brand? Links to online supplements of Vitamin D you can recommend? I've never used vitamin D supplements.
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Fermented cod liver oil. The best source of food derived vitamin D. Also Duck eggs and fish roe.
www.greenpasture.org
I know humans aren't livestock, but the vet that I trust recommends upping the dosage of Boron in the mineral lick of stock suffering from Eczema.
The cows that I got from the dairy I worked at have eczema, but not nearly as badly as the ones still at the dairy. I took them down to half the feed I was feeding them, switched them onto organic feed, added kelp to their diet and also gave them redmond's salt block. I think next year they won't get eczema. Eczema in stock is usually brought on during periods of high summer heat.
Again, we aren't ruminants, but I think that a lot that works for them will work for us too.
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I just want to wish you the very best working with your little cutey pie Good Samaritan.
Will your wife support you and help you with the cure?
What is your son's diet like now?
Thanks for sharing the process with us.
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What is your son's diet like now?
Strinct raw paleo diet of course. (2 days now)
And asking his little instinctive requests.
He likes squid and rambutan.
I gave him clams, beef, fish, durian, duck eggs, calamansi and wild honey, coconuts
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What was he eating before the last 2 days GS when the excema developed?
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What was he eating before the last 2 days GS when the excema developed?
Cooked paleo diet + the ever present Filipino white rice.
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My guesses are:
- the known sand flies in his school woods area where they do gardening
- the laundry soap brand from Amway where my mother in law is a member of
- maybe his liver is just weak and cannot handle the above two plus all the cooked meat and rice... this son of ours the first born received all our bad pre-health aware crap ( soya in eutero, soya, vaccines, drugs in eutero )
Any vitamin D brand? Links to online supplements of Vitamin D you can recommend? I've never used vitamin D supplements.
Stop washing him with any kind of soap. That will only aggravate it. Avoid washing him with hot water, too...use barely-warm water, if you have to wash him.
The only brand I've found that works is Now brand softgels, but I've only tried two brands. Carlson's vitamin D drops definitely don't. You would probably want to give him about 1000 IU per day, for about 3 days, and see if that helps or not.
Definitely make sure he's getting some fat, otherwise the vitamin D won't work.
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Cherimoya, is there a minimum of fat necessary for the vitamin D to be effective or is it the kind of thing where the more, the better? Would putting something like coconut oil directly on the skin be helpful with absorption?
GS - white rice. That must have been hard for you to see with what you know. Glad you got hold of the reins!
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Another theory of cause my wife and I think is:
- in our retreat house that lasted 10 days our children ate a lot of deep fried duck from a duck outlet. Maybe they used some common commercial cooking oil that made that duck fat toxic. I know all 3 kids ate a lot of those ducks.
- I think it's weak kidneys and weak liver. Possibly from eating too much cooked meat and not enough fat.
- Or maybe my son is not built for cooked food. This is our 1st born son's nth health crisis.
- Our 2nd boy has some eczema himself. He's responding well to the probiotics.
- Maybe our 1st born son is allergic to the probiotics. I stopped those on him.
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The acupuncturist couldn't make it this afternoon so tomorrow morning my wife is taking our son to the chiropractor.
The acupuncturist comes Sunday morning.
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Cherimoya, is there a minimum of fat necessary for the vitamin D to be effective or is it the kind of thing where the more, the better? Would putting something like coconut oil directly on the skin be helpful with absorption?
You wouldn't want to go over about 80% fat by calories. Anything up to that is fine.
That's a good question about oil on the skin. I've wondered about that. My only concern would be that some oils might act as as sunscreen, reducing the amount of UV light that reaches the skin, and therefore reducing the amount of vitamin D produced. Otherwise, I don't think it could hurt.
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My wife took our son to the chiropractor Saturday morning.
Dr. Brush said:
"Cush's pelvic rings are counter rotated."
So he fixed it.
I wonder what those are.
But I'm sure that will help.
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The great Sifu Sam arrived this morning for Cush's acupuncture and chinese herbal medicine advice.
Sifu's best guess:
- Allergy to DUCK. (cooked duck to be precise)
- same as some people are allergic to chicken... from the looks of it, it is duck allergy
- and lately, this son of mine's favorite food is deep fried duck. (I do wonder what the supplier fries the duck in, maybe that too)
- Maybe raw duck is better.
But for the moment we are staying away from duck... even duck eggs.
So it is back to raw beef and durian for my boy. I remember that combo working really well for him when I treated him for primary complex / tuberculosis.
Sifu did:
- acupuncture
- with mox
- then gave armadillo pills for getting rid of poisons / duck allergen
- gave a chinese cream to be mixed with activated charcoal to help suck out poisons
- spirulina to tablets to help detoxify duck allergen
Sounds like a good theory so I'll give it a try.
The theory about what people are addicted to or have as favorite food may make them sick.
And of course we are sticking with RPD. I got lots of good beef.
In the first place, my son on RPD can't eat raw duck.
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/10/child-eczema-treatment-child-eczema-cure-%e2%80%93-part-03-oct-8-update-acupuncture-and-duck-allergy/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/10/child-eczema-treatment-child-eczema-cure-%e2%80%93-part-03-oct-8-update-acupuncture-and-duck-allergy/)
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10 October - We took our son to the anthroposophic doctor. Her opinion was weak liver and weak kidneys. Eruptions look like undigested proteins. She thinks son should go on a low protein diet for the moment. Wife mis-interprets this as NO protein diet.
Goes to show us healers need to be careful in wording our prescriptions. And we go on a continuous argument about this fact LOW protein, not NO protein.
Anthroposophic doctor of course gave her anthroposophic preparations for oral and topical. I agreed with the topical to sooth my wife's fears and 1 oral to sooth her fears.
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11 October - Supposed Coconut Juice and Coconut Meat fast. Then in the afternoon a meeting with the great metaphysical healer Marlo... we drove all the way to Calamba City, some 1.5 hours away... 60 kilometers away.
Marlo did his metaphysical and prayer thing. Then taught a herbal technique using freshly pounded turmeric in a hankerchief and scratched on the weeping wounds to bleed. Painful for the boy. He introduces 2 other herbs for us to try in the future.
We pass by the big wet market at Farmers cubao and buy raw beef for eating and raw beef meat therapy. My boy hurriedly ate some 0.15 kg of raw beef, some 40% fat by volume over muscle. Quickly before my wife comes back from buying fruits. As she squirms at the sight of eating bloody raw meat.
In the evening, we did the suggestion of Marlo to do RAW MEAT THERAPY on the eczema ravaged skin. I bought a big cut of freshly slaughtered beef and laid it on his left leg. It was there for almost 1 hour. Boy said it was soothing.
Wife cleaned up the boy with guava leaves concoction. But that seemed to negate the soothing feeling of the raw meat therapy. I believe this raw meat therapy should be left alone overnight.
Marlo says the theory is the waste that oozes out goes to the dead meat instead of sticking to human flesh. Sounds like a good idea.
The same time around 11:30am I called up Vander Gaditano and got approval from him to try coffee enemas on my boy. But this will have to wait as we were busy this afternoon going to and fro Calamba.
By the time this evening 8 pm that the coffee enema was ready, our boy was too tired and sleepy, it is his bed time. Sigh... so off he goes to bed.
Pictures of Marlo and Raw Meat Therapy are forbidden for public viewing at the request of Marlo and my son.
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I look forward to tomorrow 12 october where we are scheduled to do some 3 coffee enemas spread out through the day.
I'm using organic coffee from Kalinga province. And I have a brand new enema bucket.
This is the same brand of coffee used by my mother in law. And I'm using her preparation procedures.
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That's so funny GS because one of the first things I thought of was putting raw meat on the wounds - but wouldn't say such a thing. I feel it in my bones that you are on the right track with that! It's not only about absorbing the toxins - there are other healing elements to it.
Your boy was smart to choose you as a father.
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Child Eczema Cure 12 October: With Vander Gaditano – The Greatest Healer
Healing my own child at home is getting to be stressful with a wife who believes in a different paradigm of healing (anthroposophic)… and thinks she can mix it with my hands on healing eczema cure protocol — absolutely NOT and I refuse my son’s healing to be sabotaged by mixing unknown to me “medicines” where the efficacy of my treatments with untold side effects from mixing MAY compromise the health of our patient. There are just too many cooks in this kitchen.
click for pics and full story
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/12/child-eczema-cure-12-october-with-vander-gaditano-the-greatest-healer/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/12/child-eczema-cure-12-october-with-vander-gaditano-the-greatest-healer/)
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My latest update about my son, please read:
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/15/child-eczema-treatment-candida-yeast-parasites-angle/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/15/child-eczema-treatment-candida-yeast-parasites-angle/)
Our son's aggressive eczema has gotten worse and worse.
I've cured my eczema, my brother's psoriasis (and his son too), my 2nd son's eczema, other people...
But this 1st son's eczema is different, we need your help.
We resorted to topical steroids this evening so he can sleep.
I am asking for all your brainpower to help suggest things we can do to cure our son.
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I got a recommendation for:
- goji berries and raw eggs
- aconite nerve oil (for the pain)
- get blood tests and stool tests (look for deficiencies and parasites)
- Vitamin D supplements from NOW herbs.
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I know you're in a hurry to relieve your son's suffering GS but it seems like you're jumping all over the place with treatments like the more the merrier.
With this kind of thing where there is a definite, acute cause the best thing to do is clear the system of everything questionable and feed only what you are sure isn't harmful.
So that means the cessation of
cooked foods
Sugars (even fruits!)
Exposure to any kinds of chemicals
Any foods with known reactions.
Meaning that you son should be eating only a very narrow group of known-safe nutrient dense foods. Typically that would be something like beef organs, muscle, fat and marrow. And everything else should be cut out. Raw green veggie juices are ok too as long as they are not root or high sugar veggies. The only other thing I would agree with is the green pastures fermented cod and/or skate liver oil, it is different from all other supplements in that it is essentially a food, not a fractured, highly processed substance. It is essentially high cod liver or high skate liver.
Then you wait for things to clear up.
Once they do, you expose him to extremely small doses of the most likely culprit, whether it be the duck or amway chemical or whatever you suspect most. Then you wait to see if there is any reaction, don't just look for skin reactions, notice if there are any reactions at all. If nothing happens after a week. Then either increase the dose of the suspected culprit or move on to a small dose of the next suspected culprit. Wait a week. And keep this up until you've isolated the offending substance(s).
It is an involved endeavor but because there is a cause that can be known and once known, controlled, it is worth the effort.
The other thing is this has apparently been an ongoing thing with your son so a diet and lifestyle journal is indispensable. If maintained dutifully and accurately it will quickly allow you to correlate outbreaks with certain stimuli and give you the power to guide your son's health.
Best of luck, these kinds of situations where the other guardian is not on board with what would cure the victim of the suffering are very difficult. I'm in nearly the exact same position as my baby sister suffers from bad eczema also and though I know what will cure her, my naive and ignorant, well-intentioned parents would rather pump her full of drugs and heavily processed "health" foods instead of even seriously considering my perspective with 5 years of intense study looking at what has the greatest impact on health.
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How are his stools? Are they loose/runny?
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Just my thoughts...
Did you think about mercury?
I read in a French forum a long time ago that eczema is caused by mercury poisoning and that is a way for the body to get ride of it.
Was it exposed to any sources of mercury?
IF eczema is really a way to get ride of mercury you should stick to raw paleo diet for a while to help the body detox and maybe do a chelation protocol.
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My fault too, just for him to eat, I give in to cooked stuff.
Crap.
I put his raw bone marrow and dunk it in a soup because he refuses to eat raw bone marrow from the bone.
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Maybe like, answer my question?
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How are his stools? Are they loose/runny?
He's been having coffee enemas the past 3 days and stopped yesterday so no stool yet. But they seemed normal prior.
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Thanks to you guys, I am resolved to smash through with 100% raw paleo diet enforcement.
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/17/child-eczema-it-has-to-be-raw-bloody-meat-raw-animal-fat-paleo-diet/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/17/child-eczema-it-has-to-be-raw-bloody-meat-raw-animal-fat-paleo-diet/)
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Thanks to you guys, I am resolved to smash through with 100% raw paleo diet enforcement.
I wish my son who is sick was three or four in a sense. Past that age he's so very strongly known what he wants, and especially past age eleven or twelve there is no use providing food he didn't ask for. It seems raw animal meat and fat is really the cure for all health ills. I'm not saying this without experience, as I've stayed with people with terrible ills and have a good bit of experience really trying with some great success with a fairly wide variety of other systems of healing and health eating.
I feel bad your son is having such bad eczema, and that you did. I recall the pictures. I couldn't imagine such a case.
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Hey Edwin,
Have you tried 'Grounding'? Sleep grounded etc
Not sure if it will help, but just a thought?
Phil
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We know now that the root cause is Candida - Yeast - Fungus, those idiots.
Beam Ray is direct hit at those culprits... and it is intestinal
But the problem was the boy had his first beam ray session Saturday evening.
And he did not poop the whole of Sunday.
From talking with a fellow health advocate, we picked up vinegar enema for candida.
My son needed an enema anyway in the evening to clear his guts.
But I have no experience with a vinegar enema, so I did 2 consecutive vinegar enemas on myself first.
Feeling confident that the mixture I did was safe, I gave my son 2 consecutive vinegar enemas too.
Sure enough 1st blow smelled really bad...
2nd blow had lots more.
Should have done a 3rd one but it was too late at night.
I believe the vinegar enemas are a great addition to this healing protocol.
Beam ray in the morning must be followed up by vinegar enemas. I may adjust the strength of the vinegar enemas, but of course test it on myself first.
Let's wait for my boy to wake up tomorrow and see if he slept better and improved a bit.
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Get him out in the sun, so he can get some vitamin D--the more skin exposed, the better. Have him spend at least an hour a day mostly-unclothed in direct midday sunlight, maybe even more like 3-4 hours.
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Definitely agree with the last post as well.
Sunlight healed my eczema in a matter of days.
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I agree with CitrusHigh - cut out all sugar, including fruit and honey. So only eat organ and muscle meat and fat. The only exception to this that I would allow is coconut and coconut water. I assume he's aready resting plenty, but if not the transition into ketosis will probably sort that out.
I also definitely agree that sunlight helps tremendously.
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The battle is against candida / yeast / fungi as the beam ray confirmed.
Yesterday's diet was good. Very low carb.
Coconut water (he does not like coconut meat at all, never did)
Raw beef fat and muscle
Green juice of cucumber, celery and lemon.
Today's diet was good too. But he was losing energy in the mid afternoon. (very low carb diet adjustment thing.) So I gave in and bought him a FRESH ripe durian. Never frozen, never refrigerated. ( I've got frozen durian, but in his case, I'll stick to all fresh).
Coconut water (he does not like coconut meat at all, never did)
Raw beef fat and muscle
Green juice of cucumber, celery and lemon.
A big expensive ocean prawn.
Fresh Durian (never frozen, never refrigerated)
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Raw beef liver, raw beef heart and raw white onions.
( he kept repeating to me this combination of beef liver and onions for 2 days, I finally got some fresh today.) I found the beef heart delicious, he did too.
He had a pretty good appetite today. I'm happy diet wise for him.
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We had a breakthrough with vinegar enema. Beam ray morning should get a vinegar enema at night, must make sure all those dead germs are expelled via his poop hole. Diagnosis is mostly intestinal candida and more stuff.
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We've been had. Chinese cream we were told to put on yesterday turned out to be a steroid as I checked the net. Grrr....
This morning and evening we went with Barefoot Herbalist MH spray III to spray on new spots where it itches. It is hot. But it damn stops the itching. And we know it's not cheating. It really seems to dissolve the expelled toxins.
Son has no courage spraying on the open wounds with spray III, too blindingly painful he thinks.
I thought we had killed all the itching by late afternoon. An hour before bed he started itching real bad on his open left leg.
I just got him to sleep for an hour so far.
Tomorrow is another beam ray early morning. And a raw paleo diet day. And anthroposophic medicines day with added pulsatilla comp for yeast infections.
My wife just arrived from palawan and the healer there gave her neem + aloe, his own preparation for eczema. Will see.
I'm looking at crocodile oil to order.
Our program so far, comments welcome:
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/18/child-eczema-cure-18-oct-progress-breakthrough-raw-paleo-diet-very-low-carb-vinegar-enema-beam-ray-anthroposophic-meds/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/18/child-eczema-cure-18-oct-progress-breakthrough-raw-paleo-diet-very-low-carb-vinegar-enema-beam-ray-anthroposophic-meds/)
I need all your help and thoughts. Thanks for reading.
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Reminder to myself to get Vitamin D supplements for my son.
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Suggestions for vitamin D rich foods?
sardines (cooked and bottled)
raw ocean shrimp ( he loves this)
raw liver ?
raw oysters?
raw clams?
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/18/child-eczema-treatment-vitamin-d-deficiency-food-and-supplementation-exploration/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/18/child-eczema-treatment-vitamin-d-deficiency-food-and-supplementation-exploration/)
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Goodsamaritan, did you get my message?
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Get him out in the sun, so he can get some vitamin D--the more skin exposed, the better. Have him spend at least an hour a day mostly-unclothed in direct midday sunlight, maybe even more like 3-4 hours.
I will do this with him later.
Thank you.
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id caution on midday sunlight to begin with, especially for parts that are often clothed...morning sun is more gentle for those parts, you can be out for an hour before 10 each day for a week and build up melanin and not harm the skin, gradually increase til there is no need cover up or go in midday due to the intensity of the sun
perhaps its different in your climate, humidity, altitude but i would still use caution
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id caution on midday sunlight to begin with, especially for parts that are often clothed...morning sun is more gentle for those parts, you can be out for an hour before 10 each day for a week and build up melanin and not harm the skin, gradually increase til there is no need cover up or go in midday due to the intensity of the sun
perhaps its different in your climate, humidity, altitude but i would still use caution
They're Phillippino, not white. They have brown skin, don't burn easily.
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If he's not used to a lot of sun exposure then for sure, work up to it, even with darker skin. But that can be done midday, it just means very short exposures to begin. 10-15 mins.
It is important that you get him out there between 10am and 2 pm. The sun is at too low of an angle outside of those parameters to generate vitamin d. It is actually destroying vitamin D the rest of the day, UVA destroys vitD UVB generates it.
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The sun is at too low of an angle outside of those parameters to generate vitamin d. It is actually destroying vitamin D the rest of the day, UVA destroys vitD UVB generates it.
Interesting. How does it destroy it? I know through glass the best rays don't get in, and the other rays can trigger health problems.
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raw ocean shrimp ( he loves this)
raw liver ?
raw oysters?
raw clams?
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/18/child-eczema-treatment-vitamin-d-deficiency-food-and-supplementation-exploration/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/18/child-eczema-treatment-vitamin-d-deficiency-food-and-supplementation-exploration/)
Raw wild tuna, raw pasture poultry liver and and yolk, raw wild herring, raw pasture pork fat all have very high D.
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This eczema is not your regular toxemia eczema.
It is something else.
Beam Ray operator says it corresponds to "Mycosis Fungoides".
As my boy scratches when the beam ray turns on to the frequencies for Mycosis Fungoides.
Any help is welcome.
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Stress from having a female teacher tellling him to sit still all day at school instead of learning, hunting and having adventures?
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Stress from having a female teacher tellling him to sit still all day at school instead of learning, hunting and having adventures?
That's a nice theory with conventional education.
But my wife and I ahead of time didn't want our children to experience that.
So we enrolled them in a Waldorf school.
They really like going to school.
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Here is my latest news and theory:
The core problem is large intestine structure integrity mixed up with candida - yeast - fungus / impacted stools in pockets. There are no exotic "germs", just pleomorphism at work.
Saturday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday beam ray sessions.
Yesterday Wednesday afternoon we started giving him Sanchi Yae, a very very fast blood detoxifier, the exit of the detox is through his colon. Wednesday... no poop. Thursday afternoon, still no poop. (beam ray and sanchi yae are supposed to generate lots of poop detox).
This evening 6pm we gave him just 1 vinegar enema to coax him to poop out what the Sanchi Yae and the Beam Ray machine had worked on.
Problem was before exit was rock hard stools.
When those initial rock hard stools popped out, a flood / sludge of dirt was pooped out.
But afterwards, rock hard stools again.
So this means that the rock hard stools formation is intermittent.
Anus - rock hard stools (in pocket?) - sludge - rock hard stools (in pocket?) - maybe the next sludge - maybe the next rock hard stools (in pocket?)
Maybe his colon has pockets where things get stuck / infected / fungus - yeast - candida growths occur + rock hard stools. Colon needs rehabilitating.
We need to give him oil enemas again, virgin coconut oil, olive oil, to help unlock any other rock hard stuff in his colon.
This is a throwback to last year's intussusception - there is still something wrong and it needs to be fixed.
I need to flood him with hydration and raw animal FAT FAT FAT. To restore his colon.
I'm also thinking of my great experience with Barefoot Herbalist MH's LBB capsules which restored my colon to Superman status. Maybe there is LBB junior. Let's see.
I really think the root cause of his small and less muscular status is malabsorption of nutrients in a bad / wrecked colon.
I plan to put him on an almost Zero Carb diet beginning tomorrow. Eat only:
- fresh raw coconut juice
- 10 seconds each side 1 inch thick seared super fatty beef (this makes him eat a lot, and with the thickness, I get away with a lot of raw goodness for him)
Plus he still drinks the Sanchi Yae detoxifier. He drinks his anthroposophic meds.
I will have him miss the beam ray session tomorrow. He needs big big rest.
I feel the enema and disposal of lots of gunk last night will put him in healing / sleeping mode. Just as Aajonus Vonderplanitz and other healers describe healing mode as 15++ hours of sleep straight. I will not be waking him up. I may even encourage the putting up of curtains to darken the room in the morning so he sleeps and sleeps and sleeps.
I really need your expert inputs and thoughts guys and gals, criticism welcome, no need to PM, just reply here.
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Updated theory here:
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/20/child-eczema-cure-oct-20-2011-grand-unified-theory-root-cause/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/20/child-eczema-cure-oct-20-2011-grand-unified-theory-root-cause/)
I really need your expert inputs and thoughts guys and gals, criticism welcome, no need to PM, just reply here.
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It seems my next phase to cure is:
Diverticulitis is a condition where herniated pockets begin forming in your colon. The pockets will ultimately catch and trap feces. In time, the feces will build up and lead to blockages and problems evacuating stool properly. Colon constipation will result and ultimately could lead to bacteria and toxins being re-released back into the body.
How do you cure Diverticulitis?
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One thing, stay away from seeds!
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GS - Do you now feel that the core issue is diverticulitis and what is growing in the pockets alone or are you still thinking that candida and fungus in general are the issue?
There are some very specific candida protocols that can be used to kill out the candida and to re-establish the beneficial bacteria. For instance garlic is often used to kill yeast.
Diverticulitis is usually only diagnosed by a colonoscopy procedure. Why do you think that it is diverticulitis now - only by symptoms or did you get him tested medically? Is he having pain in his abdomen, bloating, nausea, fever? Not having bowel movements can get the stool stuck in pockets that form with the bowels not being in proper shape from lack of proper muscle movements and weakness. If things are getting stuck in pockets and becoming infected he would show the symptoms of diverticulitis above (infection in pockets), but then again, those symptoms (which include either constipation or diarrhea) can be caused by other things too. Sometimes it makes sense to use the medical establishment just for their diagnostic abilities in order to get a fuller understanding of what you are dealing with even if you do nothing that they prescribe.
Most doctors/therapists/healers would say that he needs more fiber in order to give his bowels the proper exercise and have enough bulk to move out the feces. I however have a particular viewpoint on fiber that is completely my own thought process. When the body is getting a toxic diet and nasty things need to be removed then fiber is important. It is how the bile gets cleaned up (the fiber is where the bile dumps the toxins for removal so when there is not enough fiber the bile goes back still dirty and the body has no way to dump toxins) and if the bile is thick and gall bladder filled with sludge or stones from the toxins leftover in the bile from not enough fiber, the liver and pancreas can therefore process fat properly. When someone is eating a pure diet without a big load of toxins the fiber is not as necessary because, well, the bile isn't getting all thick and nasty like it does when someone is eating things that create a load on the bile.
So, what you are trying to do, in my view, is to go directly to the ideal diet, but with a body that is not at a point where it can handle what that ideal diet comprises. Are you following me? If the boy's liver and pancreas and/or lungs are compromised and there is sludge in his bile and his intestines are backing up - he is not getting out the toxins and might not be able to process high amounts of fats with a liver/bile system that is debilitated. Most children that get excema first have some form of lung problem like asthma; that was suppressed in their history. Excema is the body trying to get out deep toxins. Your wife's anthroposophic helpers would agree with this. His body is dehydrated. It's a lack of flow of toxins to the point where the skin (the largest organ and often the last avenue of disposal after all the others fail) is oozing out the toxins. Dehydration necessitates fat, but the body is as yet not able to process the fat that will heal and which is the most natural food.
It's a catch 22 situation. Sometimes, one has to sit back and look at the bigger picture on how to get the toxins out enough to give the body the strength to handle even what in a healthier person would be the most healing. Some people still have a system that is strong enough to process enough of the toxins to heal, others like your son, as of yet, do not.
A healthy person eating a clean diet won't need fiber, but your son is not that person yet. The lungs, liver, pancreas, gall bladder, and intestines all need help in moving and healing. Excema is more than just skin. It is very good that you are handling this now because later on excema has a tendency when older to become arthritis. It goes deeper and deeper until it gets to the bones. Even though this is horribly painful for your son (and you), the very worst thing that could ever be done is suppressing it with things like steroids. All the things that you can come up with to get things flowing is what he needs. The boy might need a good deal of help breaking down fats right now. Lecithin, lipase enzymes, pancreatic enzymes and the like are what I would suggest along with the other wonderful suggestions that you have gotten above like vit D and direct sun shine etc. Of course, only raw fats make any sense for him. That is a strain enough and needed - whereas cooked fats will likely only gum him up more. Cooked white rice is devoid of fiber and yet create toxins at the same time. His body is telling you that he can handle no more of it! He needs the good gentle fiber to clean his detoxification channels - that you are already familiar with - and which is paleo. I have a list of favorite herbs for supporting the liver, gall bladder/bile, pancreas, lungs etc. that are non-toxic and gentle that I would suggest if you are interested so that you could research them further. They comprise for me the intense nutritive approach when there is weakness. There are also particular foods that will nourish particular organs and help them to release if you want me to talk more about them. I also would not take fiber out of his diet entirely until you know that the majority of the toxins that he is trying to purge are removed and he is able to process his fats well.
This is my own little thought process and what I would do if I were in your shoes and of course not medical advice. I believe firmly that no matter what - just by stopping the flow of junk that has been going in and letting the boy's body release without suppressing, you are doing him a world of good.
Your wife's viewpoint is not all that at odds with what you are trying to achieve. You are very lucky she doesn't want to slather him up with steroids like most Americans would.
Stay strong through it all. You know this already, but you are laying the foundation for a lifetime of health for your son. It must be stressful and very intense...... but those in the know, your friends here, at least ME!, are all with you sending you support.
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He needs the good gentle fiber to clean his detoxification channels - that you are already familiar with - and which is paleo. I have a list of favorite herbs for supporting the liver, gall bladder/bile, pancreas, lungs etc. that are non-toxic and gentle that I would suggest if you are interested so that you could research them further. They comprise for me the intense nutritive approach when there is weakness. There are also particular foods that will nourish particular organs and help them to release if you want me to talk more about them. I also would not take fiber out of his diet entirely until you know that the majority of the toxins that he is trying to purge are removed and he is able to process his fats well.
Hi Dorothy,
Thank you! Please continue and discuss what you have in mind. I read every word you typed. Thank you for taking the time!
I wholeheartedly agree with the gist of what you are saying. I myself had to go through my own transformation stages to get to where I am right now. I just did not get to my personal health best today by switching overnight. I couldn't digest fats or anything this well until later.
Which medical diagnostics do you suggest?
I read the colonoscopies can be injurious. The dye can kill your kidneys et al. How to make it safer?
What fiber in which form do you suggest?
Your list of favorite herbs?
Yes go on. Loving and appreciating it all.
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It is 6:25am.
The boy is still sound asleep. We have darkened the room as much as we can. Morning light still seeping in.
We opened a coconut and put coconut juice in a glass beside the boy so when he wakes up he just drinks the coconut juice and goes back to sleep.
I spiked his coconut juice with Adoxy, 10 drops. Part of his detox process.
His left leg is all wet from the weeping eczema.
When he wakes up today we will do a virgin coconut oil enema and an extra virgin olive oil enema to root out any other old compacted fecal matter from his colon.
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Hi Dorothy,
Thank you! Please continue and discuss what you have in mind. I read every word you typed. Thank you for taking the time!
I wholeheartedly agree with the gist of what you are saying. I myself had to go through my own transformation stages to get to where I am right now. I just did not get to my personal health best today by switching overnight. I couldn't digest fats or anything this well until later.
Which medical diagnostics do you suggest?
I read the colonoscopies can be injurious. The dye can kill your kidneys et al. How to make it safer?
What fiber in which form do you suggest?
Your list of favorite herbs?
Yes go on. Loving and appreciating it all.
Oh good - I'm glad if I can be even a little bit of assistance. There were a couple of things that came to my mind later that I thought might possibly help during this period of extreme skin difficulty in his detoxifying. I was wondering if clay/mud might help to pull out the toxins from his skin. I don't know much about this and it seems that Cherimoya is more familiar with clays and it might be worth researching. Clay baths are "supposed to" pull toxins from the skin and be very gentle but with open wounds I have no idea if they would be safe or effective - but thought I throw out the idea for you perhaps to research if it sounds right to you. You could do a warm bath with some clay in it or here in the states there are places you can go to have clay smeared all over you and even be submerged into an entire bath of mud.
The next thing that I thought of was aloe vera. It has incredible healing properties for the skin. It can help pull out toxins, dissolve old and damaged skin and sooth and protect new skin. Fresh aloe plants seem like something that might grow where you are? Just scrape out the middle and paste it on the skin. Aloe is also supposed to be extraordinarily healing to the digestive system if taken internally - and extremely nutritional too... but there is nothing else as healing to the skin as fresh aloe.
With anything like these things I would of course first try a small area to see how he reacts.
There are other soothing herbs that can be used as poultices, but the above two ideas were the first that came to mind.
When it comes to cleansing the bile there is nothing better in my experience than peppermint. It dissolves bile sludge and stones and cholesterol that gets built up in the bile. For the liver nothing is quite as good as milk thistle for support and beet/carrot juice for cleansing... but you have to be extremely careful how much you make the boy cleanse right now - he can't even keep up as it is - so it's best in my opinion to build rather than to make the body release more so I would be careful not to do too much beet or carrot if any. After he is built up more you can cleanse with juices and even burdock but not now. Those kinds of things I would think might just make thinks worse right now. Milk thistle is an herb that makes the liver strong without pushing detox - it builds the liver function and is extremely gentle. It's a phenomenal herb.
For the intestines I again would go gentle with a nutritive herb like slippery elm. People that are so sick that they can eat nothing else can usually keep this demulcent herb down. It's coating and soothing to the intestines and provides "slippery" fiber. Again - it is building. What Zi is saying about seeds is quite true if he has diverticulitis because pieces of undigested seeds can get stuck in the pockets but as yet you do not really know if he has diverticulitis or not...... Either way, seeds are difficult to digest and right now he doesn't need that added stress on his system even if seeds can offer certain nutrients and can be worth the body effort in a healthy person. For someone with compromised digestion seeds general can be problematic. For me personally, I would not do a colonoscopy because for me, it would not change the treatment if he does have it and every procedure is adding a risk. I just wouldn't assume that this is the core of his problem. I would just do what I could to help his digestion, add good fibers in fruits and herbs to exercise his colon which he needs anyway whether he has pockets or not - since he is so constipated. Without knowing what the real cause is or not I would do a general empowering, building and gentle detoxification program of the entire system and not focus in on that one possibility of a "cause". The body is a whole system.
I would really suggest things to help him digest in supplemental form at the beginning stages including enzymes - especially for the fats. He needs the fats but I doubt he is digesting them well otherwise his liver would be handling the toxins more than his skin, so I would definitely add lecithin to his diet when he has fat and lipase enzymes. I think that might be really pivotal because the liver is usually the go-to organ for detox. He needs the fats so, besides giving him sulfured dairy to make the fats by-pass the liver, the best one can do is support the liver with milk thistle, lecithin which helps to break down fats and enzymes that the pancreas is probably having trouble producing at this point. I'm repeating a bit here because I think it might be the crux of the matter. Needs fats, can't digest fats. Needs enzymes, likely not producing enough enzymes.
In terms of kidney support dandelion greens are a great supportive, nutritive herb food. With his digestive problems tea or juiced greens would be the forms he could absorb. Dandelion also is a gentle cleanse and a definite support for the liver as well, and can help with blood cleansing.
As far as blood cleansing red clover is the gem there. It's the little wild clovers that grow in most places and people do eat. It can be bad if you eat too many because oxalic acid, but if in a tea form when needed it can really help gently cleanse the blood of circulating toxins.
Most of the things I'm mentioning are foods on purpose. When you can eat something every day you are approaching disease not in the medical model or even the "detox" model - but the strengthening, building, nutritive model - which is the safest and often in the long-term, the wisest - especially when making very general suggestions for someone in such a general way without knowing them or even the details of history, symptoms, diet etc.
I won't even mention anything for the lungs now because that would have to come later. You can't do more than one new thing at a time to make sure that he does not have a bad reaction and all these other things at this stage of crisis are more important and direct.
If you have someone to do muscle testing of course that's best, or even if you can do that, to see if particular herbs are right for your son as an individual at this time.
Well, that's enough for this bout. Before I go on, let's see if any of these things seem like they make sense and can help.
The sleeping is GREAT btw. When we sleep is the only time that the immune system gets access to protein and other nutrients and can really work. During the day other system take precedent. The more he can sleep the faster he will likely heal and rebuild.
I hope some of these ideas are useful to you and your family. I'll make sure to keep checking in here in case anything I wrote wasn't clear or any questions come up or if other ideas are needed.
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Your son needs exercise. He needs to climb up, climb down, bend, twist and needs to massage his belly.
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I think both aloe and healing clay are worth experimenting with, both internally and externally.
Get some vitamin D into him. Get him into midday sunlight. He can even lie down in the sun, but get him out there. That vitamin D from the sunlight will calm down his stressed-out immune system.
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Do not use edible clay (drink) if constipated!
I usually have no problems with constipation, but when drinking clay I always get a little constipated. For one day or so.
Maybe mixing the clay in water, let the clay sink down and just drink the water - not the clay - might be OK.
I feel a little sorry for your guy having to go through all these enemas. I am not sure it is good. Might disturb the gut flora even more, coconut kills bacteria, and wee need bacteria in our guts. Really. -[
It might psychologically also be not ideal for him? ...like.. everybody is doing strange things to his body.. he has no control..
I would suggest, let him sleep as much as he wants. Always. Sleep heals. Let him be out in the nature a lot. With minimal clothing, naked is best. Get a lot of sun, swim in clean seawater if you have access to. Sunshine kills fungus and bacteria too! So healing. He needs to get it touch with nature. Beautiful nature. Takes stress away. Eat wild edibles, the ones you know are good.
Fatty meat like you thought, I think are great. I would not stress with too many cures etc. -\ It might only add stress to him. Which will not help healing eczema.
Do not forget, our mind is so, so important when it comes to healing. Sun, fresh air, good food, herbs.. he sure will soon be healthy again. :)
Inger
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Wow, so many good inputs. Thanks. Keep them coming. I am keeping records of all these.
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Diverticulosis diet suggestions?
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Raw meat and a lot of raw fat.
Not much vegetable matter, as fiber might irritate the colon further. I would go for only wild herbs.
Fat is great for the colon AFAIK. Raw fat. Dunno, it might be individual though.
I am not so sure your son has diverticulitis as usually it develops over time, elderly people used to have this. -X
It could be only regular constipation, small hard matter (like hard balls) is not so unusual to occur, with a quite healthy colon too. I have this if I have taken edible clay, and if eating very little fat too. It does not concerns me at all.
Psychological stress very often is the cause for constipation. People cannot "let go" and so they literally get constipated.
Inger
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Do not use edible clay (drink) if constipated!
I usually have no problems with constipation, but when drinking clay I always get a little constipated. For one day or so.
Maybe mixing the clay in water, let the clay sink down and just drink the water - not the clay - might be OK.
Completely really raw unsalted grass pastured or foraged "hard" cheese cleans up the colon for some people. Also, do not use (sodium) bentonite (pasteurized) edible clay. The smallest amount done as prescribed has constipated me so bad I went into detox mode. Make sure it is completely unheated and calcium based rather than sodium. Shower water in the Philippines is fluoridated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation#Use_around_the_world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation#Use_around_the_world) and it enters through the breathing and skin http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/removingfluoride.htm (http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/removingfluoride.htm). Fluoride ruins the thyroid and causes constipation. Fluoride is an antibacterial, and your skin needs good bacteria. I've seen peoples skin get very bad from washing with tap water, ten much better washing with real water. Like Inger says, mix the clay with water. Let it sit a couple days. Then drink it. The calcium clay will take the fluoride out. If you are sure there is no fluoride in your water already, then eat the clay. This kind of clay, terramin mormalite, cleans the colon too.
I feel a little sorry for your guy having to go through all these enemas. I am not sure it is good. Might disturb the gut flora even more, coconut kills bacteria, and wee need bacteria in our guts. Really. -[
It might psychologically also
I agree. No colonics, no colonoscopies, no oil enemas, especially not with coconut oil, if you do an enema, do a small one with only warm water or with sea water, pehaps mild fresh wild herbs blended with water and strained through a sieve.
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Raw meat and a lot of raw fat.
Not much vegetable matter, as fiber might irritate the colon further. I would go for only wild herbs.
Same experience here. Vegetable matter was part of disgustingly unhealthy constipation. Raw fat, raw meat, wild herbs big part of help. Raw eggs help a lot too. Fiber-less vegetable juice, like celery and zucchini are fine, drank at separate time from meat meal. May add clay or honey or egg to juice.
I'm not sure which herbs, perhaps mallow, but there are some that soften the actual stool.
Psychological stress very often is the cause for constipation. People cannot "let go" and so they literally get constipated.
Calmly bringing up topics without any pressure no embarrassment, something he might not have let go of, may turn that around quite quickly.
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http://www.irisandyou.com/Iridiagnosis-And-Other-Diagnostic-Methods.htm (http://www.irisandyou.com/Iridiagnosis-And-Other-Diagnostic-Methods.htm)
if you can find it on this page, he has some wonderful information on how to treat the skin and all systems to rid of toxins and heal:)
it has less to o with iridology and diagnosis and more to do with how to enhance the function of glands and organ systems using nature(sun, temperature) as well as things like saunas, skin brushing, and lympth stimulation (i.e trampoline, jumping, etc..)
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Pooped tons and tons yesterday Thursday evening.
Pooped tons and tons today Friday evening.
Must be the work of the Sanchi and the Beam Ray.
But he is still itching mad this evening.
Maybe its because we saw my wife's doc and she approved the cooked sweet potatoes.
Aajonus has an opinion on diverticulitis:
DIVERTICULITIS is inflammation in one or more of the sacs of the
intestines. It can result from food that has collected and adhered to the
sac, or toxins within the intestinal walls in a given area. It most often
results from a fat-deficiency, usually accompanied by protein
deficiency. Often that results in the body’s inability to produce proper
or enough mucus to protect intestinal walls. There may be several
reasons for fat deficiencies; see Appendix O, pages 145-150.
Symptoms: abdominal cramps or pain, irregular bowel movements,
gas, lethargy and continued abdominal bloating.
Eating 1-2 eggs every 1-2 hours following that with 1?2 tablespoon of
butter/honey mixture for 3-7 days calms this condition. Afterward,
eating more raw fat with everything that is eaten, and eating raw meat
corrects diverticulitis. Eating vegetable salads often slows digestion
and irritates the intestines; it is healthiest not to eat salads except as the
very last food of the day. Drinking raw fresh vegetable juices soothes
intestines. If experiencing intestinal cramps, eating 1?2 raw papaya with
1?2 avocado, or other raw fat (except cheeses) usually relieves cramps.
Eating whichever raw meats that are appropriate for you will
strengthen and tone your intestines.
and something about allergies:
“I’m allergic to everything but grapefruit juice that I squeeze
myself. Literally, I can’t eat anything. Not even whole grapefruit. If
I do, I break out in hives that itch so intensely that I feel like I want
to tear off my skin,” Owanza said.
“I see two problems. You do not form enough healthy resilient
mucus. And you are not lubricating and protecting your cells. There
are two basic reasons for that. Either you do not eat enough fat and
proteins, and/or you are not digesting, assimilating and utilizing fat
and proteins properly. Eating raw protein and raw fatty foods will
relieve the hives in time. Probably within two hours,” I joke.
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Hey Good Samaritan, letting go of the poop is great news! I realized that I never really talked to you about the fiber like you asked. I was talking about paleo fiber. There are two forms of fiber, soluble and insoluble. When most people say fiber they are talking about the insoluble fiber foods and supplements that go all the way through the intestines undigested. In nature we would get a little of these like in my part of the world in apples and such, but the advice to eat lots of grains to get lots of insoluble fiber is not necessary. Fruits have lots of soluble gentle fiber and just the right amount of insoluble. All that white rice he got had all the fiber removed from it. When we are sick in nature we look towards greens for healing and they have some more fiber - but we wouldn't necessarily eat a lot of them. The herbs foods I mentioned would be in tea form to build nutrition and strength of specific eliminatory organs and not stress his organs more. It does not seem like there has been much of any bulk in his diet yet difficult items. The sweet potato might actually be partly responsible for his intestines moving. The fibrous bulk of potato is fiber. There are better kinds on a long-term basis. Fiber does not have to be cooked in order to be effective.
In terms of exercise, that totally depends on what is going on with him and how high his fever is. Diverticulitis is infection and is accompanied by fever. If he is fighting a high fever how you treat him and how much activity he needs is going to be different. Have you been monitoring his vital signs? Temperature, blood pressure, oxygenation levels, ph levels etc.? That's important information to have. Up until 103 the aberrant cells, viruses, bad bacteria and other simple cells will be damaged and the immune system will be strengthened. When it goes over 103 that's where stress is put on healthy cells. The heat of the sun is also good in this respect. If the body goes up much over 103 there are fruits that will help to control it some along with cold compresses on the forehead and neck to protect the brain and on the wrists.
When I told you about clay I meant only for the outside of the body. I would not give the boy clay with constipation either. I meant it to sooth his skin and draw out the toxins. The aloe though can be soothing inside and out.
As far as all the enemas go.... I wondered about these as well.... but I am assuming that you are not giving high enemas - I hope. Low enemas just in the lowest part of the intestines is not likely to kill out the rest of the gut bacteria in the very long intestines humans have, but I wondered if it was really going to do him any good when the lack of fibrous material up higher in the intestines to push the material down and to absorb toxins was the problem as I perceived it.
Instead of the sweet potato there must be amazing produce where you are. Liquified and soft fiber is going to be the best - like the sweet potato - just not cooked. Avoid any supplements that include fiber that is hard and scratchy. Vegetable matter of course uncooked is going to be hard on his digestive system at this point unless it is very specific to healing and in a form that can be easily digested. Slippery elm for instance should be finely powdered. I would put some of this mixed with fruit. This would expand in his intestines, make them work gently and coat it with slipperiness to help things move, add nutrients and sooth the inflammation that usually accompanies diverticulitis. It's not something to do continually, but more of something to help un-do his previous diet and get things moving again without going the cooked vegetables route - which does not add the same level of nutrients and certainly does not add the powerful demulcent (soothing slipperiness) activity.
Choose your therapies with great care. Research thoroughly what anyone suggests - especially in terms of using with a child. Choose one at a time to try. If I were in your shoes I think what I would try first, if your full research shoes that clay is useful with an intense excema outbreak, is to put some clay on a spot to see if it soothes. The second thing I would do is the aloe. The sun is just a granted that he needs that. My main and first concern would be to dry, soothe and help heal all those open sores for your son's comfort. My next big concern would be to get some gentle, soft, soluble fiber going into him to absorb toxins and keep him moving without the use of enemas. Even if some or all of our ancestors didn't eat fiber, they had parents and grandparents that were eating right and weren't eating cooked foods that were hard to digest, weren't exposed to our current toxins and were raised on pure foods from the beginning. It doesn't mean that he can't move towards an all meat diet, but to do that when he is so blocked up and all at once could backfire - especially if his liver/pancreas/bile system is backed up. He needs the next step up....... whole, natural, raw, soft, gentle, absorbable fiber.
I'm glad your wife in a way is there. Better to have things moving even if it's with cooked sweet potatoes!
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Diverticulitis is infection and is accompanied by fever.
No fever. No fever.
He's stopped scratching and ate seared lamb with my wife.
He's asleep now.
I get so stressed seeing him scratch. Great he is asleep now.
If this was an adult with mature organs, dumping 2 big ones two days in a row should cure the adult immediately. Seems children like this with immature and maybe faulty organs don't seem to follow that pattern. Or maybe I'm impatient and more stressed when its my own child.
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Ah - of course it is different with your own GS.
Remember - people are individual. Clearing the intestines once or twice has not cleared other cases of excema I have known either.
No fever - that's very good. Does he have the cramping, bloating, nausea - what are the symptoms that are making you think he has pockets then?
He might just not have enough fat, not be able to digest fat well enough or have irritation in his intestines or just simply need enough gentle fiber to get the toxins out that he is trying to remove. His intestines might simply not have been moving enough so his body worked on releasing the only way it could - through the skin.
It's easy to think the worst when you are worried parent. He might just be getting rid of some gunk and there might be a lot of it. But you are doing well. Remember, you are doing better for him than just about any other parent with a child getting an excema outbreak. Stay strong and let his body heal itself. You're doing great. Hang in there.
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Many thanks for starting this thread GS, my nephew (7 months) is also struggling with eczema. We are playing with his diet, if I have any success I will be sure to report it.
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Eczema is the body attacking fungus on the skin. The fungus is ever-present however, so the body cannot win. The process of attacking the fungus damages the skin, and as the fungus cannot be eliminated, the skin condition will continue to become worse until the body stops trying to kill the fungus on the skin.
The body is attacking fungus on the skin, because of a body-wide attack on fungus. The reason the body is attacking fungus is because there is an over-growth of fungus in the intestines. The reason there is an overgrowth of fungus in the intestines is because food is not being properly digested and absorbed.
If one's faeces has a high moisture content(e.g. is runny or messy), this is evidence that food has not been properly digested and absorbed. This is likely to be accompanied by a feeling that ones digestive system is not moving along by itself, because it is difficult for the intestines to eliminate food which has been improperly digested and absorbed.
Therefore, to stop the eczema, one must eat foods which they can properly digest and absorb, and thus properly eliminate.
Despite its draw-backs, good cooking can make foods, plant and animal, easier to digest and absorb. Since your son's eczema sounds very bad, I would advise that you be open-minded in this regard. I think that if you were to feed him cooked starch-foods, fully cooked but not at all burnt meat, and raw herbs/salad etc, with the starch always coming earlier in the day than the meat, that his stools would become solid and his eczema disappear or at least drastically reduce in severity.
I would advise that you pay close attention to how he feels, remembering that the root cause of the eczema is improperly digested food. Anything that causes messy excretions and cessation of bowel transit, therefore, will also be contributing majorly to the eczema.
Raw food is better in many ways, but if you can't properly digest and absorb it, then you will need to either: Find a way to strengthen your digestive system; cook your food; find some other way to pre-digest it; or put up with poor digestive transit, intestinal fungal overgrowth and the accompanying conditions(such as eczema, itching and dandruff).
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Regarding gunk and toxins... Much gunk, and many toxins, are produced by 'bad' micro-organisms in the intestines, eating one's improperly digested foods. The micro-organisms produce these toxins to kill other micro-organisms and save as much of the food for their own species - which can handle the specific toxins they produce better than any others, and therefore they thrive in it. A lot of these toxins can then be absorbed into the blood and make one feel ill. The urine of the person in question will then likely smell bad and they will become dehydrated as their kidneys eliminate these toxins, and as water is flooded into the intestines to attempt to eliminate the improperly digested food, which cannot easily be moved along by normal contraction of the intestines.
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I'd really appreciate it if someone would remind me of the term for the oscillatory intestinal contractions which move food along, as it's slipped my mind at present.
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Awesome replies guys and gals.
Keep those thoughts coming.
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I'd really appreciate it if someone would remind me of the term for the oscillatory intestinal contractions which move food along, as it's slipped my mind at present.
peristalsis
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Yesterday we met with the anthroposophic doctor... the one my wife trusts.
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/21/went-to-the-anthroposophic-doctor-slow-and-sure-healing-prescriptions-and-fast-relief-too/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/10/21/went-to-the-anthroposophic-doctor-slow-and-sure-healing-prescriptions-and-fast-relief-too/)
This morning I wanted more anti-candida, less sugar on his menu.
I have junked coconut water for now.
Replaced it with 1 part lemon, 7 parts water - lemonade (without sweetener)
And a side tiny bowl of salt. He likes it. Says when he and his cousins are playing, they sneek in the kitchen and get salt for themselves like this. Hmmm....
He also requested kamias to go with his salt. Says kamias gives him energy. Who am I to say no to this instinct? Just happens we have 2 kamias trees. Though, the fruit are still tiny buds and sparse, we got a handful enough.
(http://www.stuartxchange.org/Kamias.jpg)
http://www.stuartxchange.org/Kamias.html (http://www.stuartxchange.org/Kamias.html)
(sour / maasim taste I personally do not eat, but he relishes this)
(if you check the link, his instinct may be right)
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Cush found his happy thought (a la peter pan) this morning at breakfast.
There was salad and the combination he wished for was tuna meat (cooked/canned) with his aunt's home made raw mayonnaise.
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I arrived back from the organic market at 9am and found him playing the harp for his grandma. Later on he and his brother are playing the apple i-pad borrowed from his grandma.
Had him adjust his position where what little sun shines.
Damn overcast every day. Sun playing peekaboo only.
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Eczema is the body attacking fungus on the skin. The fungus is ever-present however, so the body cannot win. The process of attacking the fungus damages the skin, and as the fungus cannot be eliminated, the skin condition will continue to become worse until the body stops trying to kill the fungus on the skin.
The body is attacking fungus on the skin, because of a body-wide attack on fungus. The reason the body is attacking fungus is because there is an over-growth of fungus in the intestines. The reason there is an overgrowth of fungus in the intestines is because food is not being properly digested and absorbed.
If one's faeces has a high moisture content(e.g. is runny or messy), this is evidence that food has not been properly digested and absorbed. This is likely to be accompanied by a feeling that ones digestive system is not moving along by itself, because it is difficult for the intestines to eliminate food which has been improperly digested and absorbed.
Therefore, to stop the eczema, one must eat foods which they can properly digest and absorb, and thus properly eliminate.
Despite its draw-backs, good cooking can make foods, plant and animal, easier to digest and absorb. Since your son's eczema sounds very bad, I would advise that you be open-minded in this regard. I think that if you were to feed him cooked starch-foods, fully cooked but not at all burnt meat, and raw herbs/salad etc, with the starch always coming earlier in the day than the meat, that his stools would become solid and his eczema disappear or at least drastically reduce in severity.
I would advise that you pay close attention to how he feels, remembering that the root cause of the eczema is improperly digested food. Anything that causes messy excretions and cessation of bowel transit, therefore, will also be contributing majorly to the eczema.
Raw food is better in many ways, but if you can't properly digest and absorb it, then you will need to either: Find a way to strengthen your digestive system; cook your food; find some other way to pre-digest it; or put up with poor digestive transit, intestinal fungal overgrowth and the accompanying conditions(such as eczema, itching and dandruff).
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Regarding gunk and toxins... Much gunk, and many toxins, are produced by 'bad' micro-organisms in the intestines, eating one's improperly digested foods. The micro-organisms produce these toxins to kill other micro-organisms and save as much of the food for their own species - which can handle the specific toxins they produce better than any others, and therefore they thrive in it. A lot of these toxins can then be absorbed into the blood and make one feel ill. The urine of the person in question will then likely smell bad and they will become dehydrated as their kidneys eliminate these toxins, and as water is flooded into the intestines to attempt to eliminate the improperly digested food, which cannot easily be moved along by normal contraction of the intestines.
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I'd really appreciate it if someone would remind me of the term for the oscillatory intestinal contractions which move food along, as it's slipped my mind at present.
Miles, would you please direct us (if possible) to where you got the information of excema being caused by fungus on the skin?
One would think that if what you are saying is true that coconut oil (which is a fungacide) might be particularly helpful. If sun bathing is during the day, perhaps the oil can be put on at night?
There are funguses that live in the intestines and are perfectly normal too. Has the particular fungus been identified?
GS - that tree and that fresh fruit - now THAT'S good fiber! :D
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Meat that's been frozen has caused skin rashes for many.
Giving a cool enema to fever can lower an extremely high fever faster than water on the outside.
You can put clay packs on his abdomen to help detox his organs and cool him.
Jethro Kloss for enema recommended catnip tea enema for children in his vegetarian paradigm. Remember Rudolph Steiner's philosophies although fantastic recommended little meat for ethical reasons, not health at all. Drinking artificially heated teas bring about swelling in some people.
The lecithin in raw eggs helps the body deal with other fats in the same meal, it does with butter or cream. The eggs also leave the intestines faster than many other foods, so it is not constipating. It's also healing to intestines and skin and follicles, whereas cooked eggs may make eczema worse.
You could try BioSET for his skin tissues. It took me a lot of treatments for bioset to help my skin, but my problem had not been eczema, though it was long standing.
Perhaps try NAET for foods that may be affecting him adversely.
If he has to eat cooked meat, and you want the cooking to break down the meat, it must be wet cooked very long.
Applying his own urine to his skin several days or more, possibly fermenting it too may help sooth his skin and facilitate detox. The first day it shouldn't do much.
What are aconite and iskador more precisely?
Yes, you are only half the parents, but you went through this eczema too, so you may have very valuable insights like no other. Of course your son's, wife's and who you trust for medical advice or treatment are important. I'm wondering what activities is Divina recommending for him.
He's not attending school indefinitely? There is the social aspect of school. You have his siblings, both parents, maids, extended family, perhaps if someone sees to his education, going out to school may not be necessary.
If he is still eating grain or other cooked starch, perhaps having his salt there might be good, and see if you can portion control salt, and that he gets a lot of good raw fat with the starch.
How are his adrenals? Has he ever eaten any vitamin C rich adrenal? What fruit is kamia related to? In Mexico the street vendors sell fresh salted raw sour fruit. I'm wondering how that combination is for a fat deficient person.
Canned tuna may give problems with mercury. Raw homemade mayo sounds wonderful, make sure the vegetable oils are cold pressed and not rancid. Oils make my skin burn anyway, sun or not.
Getting sun through glass is harmful to some people, while direct sun helps. Overcast sun may be helpful too, but can be stronger than you may think.
Fermented coconut cream in bathwater regularly has helped young peoples skin detoxes, and helped bring about good skin.
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Miles, would you please direct us (if possible) to where you got the information of excema being caused by fungus on the skin?
One would think that if what you are saying is true that coconut oil (which is a fungacide) might be particularly helpful. If sun bathing is during the day, perhaps the oil can be put on at night?
There are funguses that live in the intestines and are perfectly normal too. Has the particular fungus been identified?
You clearly didn't read or understand my post, which I explained very thoroughly. Of course the fungus is normally in the intestines, as it is normally on the skin... But when you do not digest your food properly, you have food undigested sitting in your intestines, and the fungus grows so much eating your undigested food that it starts to become a problem. The body therefore creates substances to attack the fungus, however the attack is body-wide, not limited to the intestines, and therefore attacks the skin where this fungus is also naturally present...
The way to stop the rashes on the skin is to stop the body from attacking the fungus, which means stopping eating foods which you can't properly digest.
If you had no fungus on your skin, then you would not get the rashes. But, the fungus will always be on the skin, because it's in the air. The problem is not caused because you have the fungus in your intestines either, because it's always there, it's in the air and on your food. The problem is caused because an ever-present fungus has proliferated too much within your intestines, due to undigested food, and is causing problems. If you are not digesting your food, then micro-organisms in your intestines will.
This is fact.
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GS has said that his son had pockets of messy stools interspersed with 'tidy' stools. I predicted that his son would have messy stools during the time when GS said his son has not had a bowel movement for days. Undigested food, which comes out as 'messy' stools, is difficult for the intestines to move by peristalsis, hence constipation. Food passes through the digestive system in the order it was eaten. The 'tidy' stools are from food which was digested properly, and the 'messy' stools are from food which wasn't. This undigested food is a breeding ground for fungus, which is what is causing his son's eczema.
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how does your son feel about all of the "treatments" and attention to his "ailments" and diet he receives?
do you ever just let the body try to recover itself, with patience, rest, fresh air, laughter, less testing or less interference?
do you think that by using all of these healing treatments you are accelerating his detox/healing to a degree his body cannot itself sustain and that is why he bounces back into dis-ease?
do you consider that the use of these healing treatments might make his body less able to detox and heal and function on its own in the future?
just wondering because i think we are often so impatient with result, think that if we can add a treatment, test, accelerate healing that that is the best, but i have done the same for myself, jumping from one thing to another in hopes to alleviate my symptoms and often thing that that was deleterious in another way.....stress, not allowing my body to figure things out for itselfs, much like taking antibiotics
i have noticed in my own healing that if i just practice patience and simplicity, it is usually better in the long run...there is too much stress associated with having all of the focus in ones life be their "dis-ease"
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I wonder if Jessica is into something here.. hm.
When some basic demands are fulfilled our bod should be able to heal itself. It just takes some time.
Sunshine comes through clouds too, quite a large %. So do not let cloudy weather hinder you from benefitting from the sun! Also fresh air does so good for the skin. Being inside houses is not as great for healing.
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I am scared of losing my son. I feel this full body breakout is no ordinary eczema. It may spell doom.
Thank you for the insights.
They are all helpful.
We did Zyto testing today (put your hand on the computer receptor and the computer checks for your illnesses, parasites, deficiencies, etc.
- B vitamins deficiency... biggest one is B5
- Molds and Fungi
- said Tamarind was bad for him... used in cooking their soups.
- stomach is the one under stress most
- pesticides are seen as a problem
I have to hunt down all the technical terms and make sense of them all.
I will be posting the results of this zyto test... the doc claims this is what astronauts use to check their health.
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I agree with RawZi, using his own fresh urine on his skin may help. Experiment by only using it on one leg for a couple of days.
I still say he isn't getting nearly enough fatty fish. Ginger might help too, to strengthen digestion.
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I am sorry your situation seems so dier.
I just wonder if there isnt some kind of psycho-somatic dis-ease thats caused by fear or worry that you are over looking.
How does your son feel? Like he is going to die?
I would ask him if he feels he only receives proper attention or the amount he would like when he is sick or having symptoms. Even if you think his answers are incorrect or that you give him enough, what he feels is his reality.
I hope you understand I am only offering this in addition to what you are already doing, by no means am I trying to question your ability to parent or your background in healing through nutrition!
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I'll chime in here, following the idea that stress slows healing. I am not a researcher in this area, but others are, and I have casually read many studies that support this concept.
In that connection, stress of a parent and stress between both parents impact children even when the parents think they are masking their concerns. Three areas of parent-stress that you have shared in this forum are:
You have direct and deep concern over the rash and weakness of your son, reasonable, but Cush can sense this and this adds to his own stress;
You and your wife have not reached accord on the topic of raw food, curiously, children can manifest symptoms to distract parental discord;
You have latent worries about your son's size and development, which he may sense even though you do not express your worry to him verbally.
In my own case, I am healing grave illness (including outward appearance of skin fungus/eczema) with gentle and confident measures, such as unsupplemented all-raw diet and semi-instincto-therapeutic food selection and preparation. I supplement this only with a meditative/spiritual practice that forbids worry and anger. Some days are symptom-free, other days are not so good, but I trust the process. I think you are a wise man, and can trust the process, too.
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its reasonable when in periods of relative health to challenge status quo, however any time someone presents some rabbit hole of a trap their raw knowledge and experiments have left them there is clearly one truth. - in periods of crisis, one needs to get out of crisis any means possible and 'stop digging'.
Even when pressed the most ideological people - from vegans and elsewhere - I have spoke to have acknowledged that should be the case, and that hard line advices even against medicines, supplements, surgeries or whatever are often thankfully compromised by succumbing to reality.
While the natural standpoint (of which I would agree) would be that the underling condition is clearly systemic, with causes innumerable in our un-natural world and diet,
the medical viewpoint is pretty strait forward :
Treating eczema herpeticum as soon as possible can help to halt the spread of the herpes simplex infection in your body.
Treatment for eczema herpeticum normally is begun immediately and even before test results can be concluded. The particular infection works fast and little time should be lost.
The most common treatments for this infection are acyclovir and valaciclovir. Treatment is begun quickly to help prevent secondary infections, such as streptococcus. If left untreated, this infection could overtake the body and cause problems to major organs, including the eyes, liver, brains, and lungs and can cause death." http://worldvillage.com/eczema-herpeticum-can-be-fatal (http://worldvillage.com/eczema-herpeticum-can-be-fatal)
Every occupant of the world according to many of these alternate theories (many of us ascribe to) paint a picture where every person is in a condition so vile that it becomes some great mystery how people can walk around at all never mind still live relatively healthfully much of their lives. Ironically as many people try to use that knowledge they can get absolutely no where or worse off than they started because such pictures become so convincing that they ignore everyone elses pictures.
The reality is that for whatever truth that our bodies are plagued by such fungal imblances, toxins, effects of drugs etc...that there is no real cohesive plan people have discovered that any groups here or even the larger world will agree upon for this or any other issue.
Its way trickier with kids. Many people on 'health' forums likely as kids had all kinds of abysmal health, taking all kinds of poor diets and medicines afterwards and still doing ok - enough to live another day anyway. The worst I've heard is children of 'alternate health' advocates - many of which were vegetarian of course. On the larger scale most people with access to health treatment are the ones that last into their later years to reasses what is working or not, where youth elsewhere ( in non tradtional cultures) routinely die of all kinds of things. Many of these people unhampered by medicine might have also easily succumb to 'detoxes' which would have been so intense to have killed them as children, often the case throughout history..unless people actually do get infected by things that have nothing to do with poor quality food...
I'll chime in here, following the idea that stress slows healing. I am not a researcher in this area, but others are, and I have casually read many studies that support this concept.
In that connection, stress of a parent and stress between both parents impact children even when the parents think they are masking their concerns. Three areas of parent-stress that you have shared in this forum are:
You have direct and deep concern over the rash and weakness of your son, reasonable, but Cush can sense this and this adds to his own stress;
You and your wife have not reached accord on the topic of raw food, curiously, children can manifest symptoms to distract parental discord;
You have latent worries about your son's size and development, which he may sense even though you do not express your worry to him verbally.
In my own case, I am healing grave illness (including outward appearance of skin fungus/eczema) with gentle and confident measures, such as unsupplemented all-raw diet and semi-instincto-therapeutic food selection and preparation. I supplement this only with a meditative/spiritual practice that forbids worry and anger. Some days are symptom-free, other days are not so good, but I trust the process. I think you are a wise man, and can trust the process, too.
I don't see how you can reconcile the good advice above with having all out faith in religion as you mention. The raw-food mantra/trap is often to claim future success when often all ones receives is misery and second rate results. forbiding anger (ala the secret) was never the intention of many root spirtual teachings which are to accept all feelings and emotions and not to 'create' positivety. These are tool of the unwell to live outside of and suppress reality and creates disease.
Stresses and a mixed 'diet' of both illegitimate or too strenuous/rapid detox, abundant sugars coupled raw animal fats and proteins, and otherwise mixed approach I'm sure would be found upon by many who have experienced eczema as trigger points. Often these systemic things aren't corrected even by the purest of diet with do need more specific and learned thinking and dietary/healing tools, which is why they end up on forums like this and primal etc...
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GS in a way you are probably right to think that the solution is some kind of even more extreme practice that often goes hand in hand with raw-eating triggering such things. Likely it would at least involve eliminating all sugar or the like as a almost automatic first step, but I don't think you should be focused on curing the root problem at all if it means added stresses and unknowns.
I personally would probably stick with the advice of one healer/practicioner schooled in solving the crisis (not focused on systemic stuff, or if so following things to the T along with any dietary conflicts to what is 'pure') or just outright bring him to a conventional doctor. At that point you use your nutritional knowledge to feed him the healthiest generic diet, and assume he will probably mature better than most kids on serious medications (more serious health problems) and even poorer diets. At which point in the future maybe he can discover and analyze a better sampling of health - if it actually exists - from what most people would view as extreme thinking.
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I don't see how you can reconcile the good advice above with having all out faith in region [sic] as you mention.
I was not referring to religion, if that is what you meant by region.
Studies have been done with brittle diabetic children whose blood sugar spiked when parents were exhibiting stress behaviors. Other studies have correlated the bedside manner of spouses (worried vs. confident) to speed of recovery of post-back-surgery patients. I am also aware of this approach for cancer patients and hemophiliac children.
Learning to handle stress is not in the exclusive realm of faith healing, whatever that may mean to an individual.
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I was not referring to religion, if that is what you meant by region.
Studies have been done with brittle diabetic children whose blood sugar spiked when parents were exhibiting stress behaviors. Other studies have correlated the bedside manner of spouses (worried vs. confident) to speed of recovery of post-back-surgery patients. I am also aware of this approach for cancer patients and hemophiliac children.
Learning to handle stress is not in the exclusive realm of faith healing, whatever that may mean to an individual.
yeah I had changed that error pretty quick. I don't have a spellcheck on my browser and usually can only scan well after I post (preview doesn't seem to do the trick). Doesn't seem to have a timestamp anymore at all but it was within a few minutes...
I'm in 100% agreement with all of your opinions on stress (I think). What I was equating to religion was puting faith in eating? in a perfect way as inevitably having sucess healing.
You seem to be saying that other factors of course matter, but what i'm saying is that the underlying idea that eating 'perfectly' creates health (particularly when its adverse to other tools and input) is equally a 'stress' as it puts pressure on the indviidual to be a failure if the reality contrasts the 'region' or 'religion' or whatever :)
I actually have more personal faith in true faith healing (those practiced by conventional or esoteric reglion) than pure faith in esoteric eating. Even 'the secret' can be used most productively, but similarly can be a crutch for disordered practices.
Most people putting faith in god, generally arn't involved in anything else too radical to concern me, although of course often enough people might use that faith as well to ignore eating better or tackling necessary conventional or alternative health decisions.
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GS,
I came across this on a forum about fermentation (http://www.wildfermentation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1383#p3845):
"...Another interesting tid-bit---if one has excema, drink raw goat's milk continually. It doesn't cure excema, but it does control it...from the inside out. I didn't develop issues with my skin until I got married and left home, and had to drink pasteurized/homogenized cow's milk. About as unhealthy as it comes. There was a time there when I felt like I didn't like milk anymore...that wasn't the case; it was just that I was used to healthy raw goat's milk, and the muck from the store was bland!"
This reminds me of the discussion going on in the thread that Brady began (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/primal-diet/7-weeks-on-an-all-raw-milk-diet/) about his experimentation with a diet that consists of mostly raw milk.
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Also, according to this data (http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=87) calf's liver and yogurt are good sources of vitamin B5. On top of continuing a raw diet that includes liver, you may want to experiment with yogurt of raw goat's milk.
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We have a new ROOT CAUSE theory for this eczema / fungal infection.
It seems to have been caused by him (10 years old) being given a Probiotic, along with his younger brother (8 years old), plus added raw eggs to their diet, just a week before it all broke out.
Both of them had ugly eczema like lesions on their legs and their arms. My wife figured they needed more fat via raw duck eggs and probiotics, our usual staple for emergencies is Probiotic Quattro.
Our 8 year old robust son quickly improved.
While our 10 year old immune compromised son broke out in this terrible eczema.
I have been reading about probiotic side effects and there are reports about immune system compromised people who break out in fungal infections due to probiotics.
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We had already figured out that he may be allergic to that probiotic brand so since yesterday we have been giving him another brand (Regenesis). But due to the risk involved, we would rather stop giving probiotics altogether.
The anthroposophic meds should help him improve, as well as some vitamins and supplements and raw paleo diet.
Other supplements:
- Transfer Factor (indicated by zyto testing)
- Cod Liver Oil
- Vit D3
- Pantethonic Acid / B5 (indicated by zyto testing)
- B complex (indicated by zyto testing)
Today he ate in the morning:
Egg yolk, lemon and virgin coconut oil
Later Kamias and salt
Drink is lemon + a touch of raw wild honey
Later romain lettuce + canned tuna (he was craving for this) + raw mayonnaise
Later soup of bones + raw mung sprouts + raw bone marrow + raw liver + raw heart
This soup he really liked.
Hopefully this evening will be good.
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I've heard of enough very negative reactions to different probiotics that I'm starting to think the only SAFE ones for everyone are just fermented/high versions of normal foods.
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I've heard of enough very negative reactions to different probiotics that I'm starting to think the only SAFE ones for everyone are just fermented/high versions of normal foods.
Fermented foods have two advantages, IMO:
1. They are consumed in food-like quantities, not mega-doses;
2. They are "broad spectrum" and contain complementary nutrients.
To me, consuming mega-doses comes from the search for the magic bullet. If illness is like a car in a skid, mega-dosing is like over steering to get out of a skid.
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topical diluted grapefruit seed extract and oil of oregano where the only thing to heal a weird systemic candida rash/sore i had for a while...super anti fungal......
also comphrey afterwards to heal
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I got oregano oil in capsules. Giving this now. Wiping under feet.
I also got olive leaf extract in capsules. Still evaluating safety and clearing with doc.
Will try to get GSE tomorrow.
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I haven't read through the whole thread yet so forgive me if I am covering old territory.
I got oregano oil in capsules. Giving this now. Wiping under feet.
I also got olive leaf extract in capsules. Still evaluating safety and clearing with doc.
Will try to get GSE tomorrow.
I have to be honest this approach seems almost allopathic, clearly the eczema is a symtom of an internal problem. My nephew (7months) also has eczema but it is very mild and at times very noticeable. His diet is limited to his Mothers Milk, Raw Meat, Raw Butter and Raw Kefir. He was born by C Section which I believe to be the problem as he missed out on picking up all that bacteria on the way out. We also give him Kefir and some high meat (aged 2-3 weeks) as we are focusing on building up his intestinal bacteria.
Can I ask: was your son born by C section? Would he be up for some Kefir or high meat as 'medicine'.
I will post some photos and perhaps together with help from the rest of the great folks on the forum we will get both these kids sorted!
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I probably mentioned capryllic acid before, taken internally should be good to heal skin from fungus.
I haven't had much if any fungal soon infections if any, but there have beem times a skin injury wouldn't heal for a long time. Then I applied ingested honey and the skin break healed right away. I've been told white table sugar would do the same, but I don't belive that. Perhaps honey on your son's skin would be all he needs to heal his skin now.
How would a dilute AcV wash be on his skin, might help the ph?
There's a way I just now remembered supposed to build skin, it involves applying fresh raw meat to the skin.
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You clearly didn't read or understand my post, which I explained very thoroughly. Of course the fungus is normally in the intestines, as it is normally on the skin... But when you do not digest your food properly, you have food undigested sitting in your intestines, and the fungus grows so much eating your undigested food that it starts to become a problem. The body therefore creates substances to attack the fungus, however the attack is body-wide, not limited to the intestines, and therefore attacks the skin where this fungus is also naturally present...
The way to stop the rashes on the skin is to stop the body from attacking the fungus, which means stopping eating foods which you can't properly digest.
If you had no fungus on your skin, then you would not get the rashes. But, the fungus will always be on the skin, because it's in the air. The problem is not caused because you have the fungus in your intestines either, because it's always there, it's in the air and on your food. The problem is caused because an ever-present fungus has proliferated too much within your intestines, due to undigested food, and is causing problems. If you are not digesting your food, then micro-organisms in your intestines will.
This is fact.
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GS has said that his son had pockets of messy stools interspersed with 'tidy' stools. I predicted that his son would have messy stools during the time when GS said his son has not had a bowel movement for days. Undigested food, which comes out as 'messy' stools, is difficult for the intestines to move by peristalsis, hence constipation. Food passes through the digestive system in the order it was eaten. The 'tidy' stools are from food which was digested properly, and the 'messy' stools are from food which wasn't. This undigested food is a breeding ground for fungus, which is what is causing his son's eczema.
I apologize is if I did not ask my question well enough. I understood what you said about the funugs in the intestines (I didn't think I had to repeat it) but I thank you for going through the trouble of explaining it again.
I'll try to ask again in a way that I hope will be better:
Since there are many different viruses on the skin and in the intestines, is there one in particular that has been determined to be the cause of excema? Are there any studies or references that you might be able to point me to on this matter?
The idea about coconut oil was to sooth and relieve the immediate problem of the skin being broken down and the pain and itching. I understood you that you were saying that the fungus on the skin was not the foundation of the problem. I know that you were saying that the diet needed to be changed.
I'm interested in learning more about the particular virus responsible if you have that information.
Thank you.
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Hey GS - I've was thinking while working in the kitchen about gse. I suggest you do a bit more research on-line regarding it before continuing it. At one point I researched it but don't remember all the particulars that made me think that it was one of those kinds of immune boosters that was based on irritation and charging the immune system into action by adding a negative to the body. There are many excellent cures that can be achieved in this way for very ill adults and extreme situations, but they are not what I would choose for a child in particular.
I would agree with the others here about probiotics. Firstly, there have been many studies showing that few of them are affective at all because the bacteria is killed in transport and that only the ones that were fully refrigerated the entire time had much of any bacteria left in them. There are some room temperature brands, but even these in transport at certain times of year in certain climates are destroyed in transport. Making your own food - based probiotics almost always is more affective... and safer.
I do highly suggest muscle testing any supplement or herb before giving it (and even maybe food too). Are you familiar how to do this in the most simplest form? It can help prevent you at least from giving something that the body might react to very negatively.
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There's a way I just now remembered supposed to build skin, it involves applying fresh raw meat to the skin.
Hey RawZi - earlier GS said he was doing that and I had had such a strong feeling about him doing that before he mentioned it. Do you know how it builds skin? Why it works? I never heard of it before.
Thanks.
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We did Zyto analysis which is a space age version of muscle testing so we came up with a big bunch of reports which proved useful.
Boy is B5 and other B Vitamin deficient. We bought him oral vitamins. But thought it best he had b-shots from my wife's anthroposophic doctor. So he got shots yesterday morning.
We also started giving him AIM Transfer Factor.
Reported in the Zyto testing that he is allergic to Tamarind... which we use in our sinigang soups. So I tell the maids to stop using Tamarind in sinigang. We will just use calamansi and kamias.
2 nights ago I finally got some OREGANO OIL in capsules. It's not as powerful and pure as the one from my teacher barefoot herbalist mh (lost in the 2009 flood) but it will have to do. I just tasted them for strength and adjust the dosage and administration.
Now that we know this is candida / fungus / yeast, that is what we target... while building up the immune system, and seeing that my boy gets just enough carbs so he keeps his strength.
Put weaker less expensive oregano oil under the soles of his feet and for the scabs with secondary infections.
Had him drink 2 capsules at a time of the stronger oregano oil.
Had him put under his tongue a capsule of burst stronger oregano oil for direct to blood action. Seems to stop bodywide itching in a minute.
After the Thursday and Friday pooping which was encouraged by enema and castor oil, Saturday and Sunday he skipped pooping again. Monday evening gave him castor oil. He did not poop the next morning. So before lunch time wife gave him castor oil again. This time by 4 pm he pooped lots, but fully formed this time. Nice dark brown color.
Diet yesterday was:
in the morning,
- some cucumber juice with some lemon
- some dragon fruit (not sweet)
- romain lettuce + canned tuna (yes, bad, but it satisfies his happy thought emotions) + home made raw mayonnaise
afternoon
- lemon juice spiked with some raw wild honey for energy
- plain white yogurt with 3 small saba bananas
- 4 big live clean raw clams (halaan) from Bicol province
evening
- bone broth + mung bean sprouts + lots of raw bone marrow + raw red meat (beef)
Hopefully this day we will be able to do an every 2 hour feeding as described by Aajonus Vonderplanitz minus the dairy. Will replace butter with bone marrow.
This evening he got a bath with aconite for his lower half.
His upper half he refused but I got to slather him with oregano oil in his upper half.
He slept straight no scratching from 8:30pm to 4am. Then he woke up scratching so I gave him Pulsatilla and later 2 caps of oregano oil to swallow. He doesn't want it under the tongue because that would make him wide awake.
His last problem is really constipation. He needs to poop every night or get a warm water enema before bed. If we get a rhythm like that going the last weeping eczemas will close.
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Congratulation on your success so far GS! Less itching and restful sleep. Nice.
Was your son ever on antibiotics that would have killed out his good bacteria to let the yeast/fungus proliferate so much?
Some fungus proliferations have very different symptomology. It's a real problem in hospitals where antibiotics are given so freely to already immune compromised people. It can be life-threatening.
Thank goodness you are handling this so early.
What are your thoughts on the oregano oil internally along with the good bacteria?
Pulsatilla - what dosage?
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deep breathing, stretching, especially abdominal twists, yoga, jumping jacks, trampoline or jogging along with belly rubs in from the lower right abdomen, up, across the belly button and then down to the left lower belly should help to move poops, much more natural than enemas...if he has the energy these activities are great for enhancing oxygen, blood flow, metablism and well being
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Would be better to just eat foods one can digest in the first place.. Still, if it works then it's a good thing to know if you end up in that situation, but certainly not a long-term solution..
Poop doesn't just generate from nothing, so if one is continually having such problems, continuing to produce messy phaeces, then past a certain quantity one is clearly still eating inappropriately.
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Would be better to just eat foods one can digest in the first place.. Still, if it works then it's a good thing to know if you end up in that situation, but certainly not a long-term solution..
Poop doesn't just generate from nothing, so if one is continually having such problems, continuing to produce messy phaeces, then past a certain quantity one is clearly still eating inappropriately.
Hi Miles,
One the things that I keep on thinking about though are those nasty funguses and bacteria that can get set up to over-run the system when the gut flora are killed out by pharmaceuticals, stuff in the water, toxins in the environment or herbs that people don't know how to use appropriately. In our modern society we tend to try to kill out all bacteria and in the process we can kill out the good bacteria and leave the gates open for other bugs to over-run the place. Appropriate digesting foods and probiotic foods will eventually cure - if the patient lives that long. With some bacteria that is rampant in hospitals the only way to save the patient is to give them heavy duty colon-specific antibiotics and massive doses of yeasts that won't cause problems because the yeasts will not get killed out by the antibiotics like probiotics will and then after the yeast take over and their supplementation stops the massive probiotics are given while the stand-in yeast die off. If this procedure isn't done soon enough the patient dies. With massive yeast infections sometimes the only way to save someone is to do a massive sweep of fungicidal agents and then add the probiotics - but it can be tricky.
If it's all just from undigested foods I'd imagine that it would be a much easier fix - not easy - but at least easier.
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Perhaps less easily digestible foods are not a problem if one has the right gut micro-organisms. Probably in fact.
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My wife's trusted faith healer and exorcist did his thing this afternoon.
Boy was insistent on eating cooked food this evening.
Who knows if his body is right in asking this?
Though I suspect it's just peer pressure seeing his brother and sister at the dinner table.
His last evening meal was cooked rice with cooked beef bone marrow cartilage and some marrow and meat.
I told him to finally eat a raw papaya at the end. Hopefully it will help him digest.
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that is wonderful you are letting him listen to his own body and honoring that.......
our misguidance and inability to do so is why we were all once eating the things that did not suit us and hindered our health
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Perhaps less easily digestible foods are not a problem if one has the right gut micro-organisms. Probably in fact.
I think you are right Miles. It is my impression that the bacteria/yeast community in the gut is at the center of our immune system - which is primarily responsible for getting rid of what is not of service to the organism.
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Seems we were doing good on our progress.
Then some 3 days ago my wife tried aconite bath and onion cream as her doc told her.
Seems progress regressed.
This afternoon, again we had to give castor oil. 15ml around 2pm. He pooped around 4pm. Boy said it smelled like Oregano Oil.
I have been giving him a lot of oregano oil orally under the tongue and gel caps to swallow.
I expect him to sleep more soundly this evening.
He complained about the tummy ache from castor oil. So I told him we will just do gentle warm water enemas around 6pm every night instead of waiting a 2nd day to give castor oil.
I had a big fit with him this lunch time as I was giving him raw oysters... he wanted to cook the oysters. I had to mouth off and lecture that he has complied with all the anthroposophic meds and capsule supplements... but he has not complied with my raw paleo diet treatments for raw meats and raw fats. I Always have to bend over and corrupt my raw food treatment to suit his idiotic taste for "cooked" food. And this healing is taking too long. In 2009 he was a more compliant younger boy and we did absolutely raw for 2 months until the flood came and broke our momentum.
I explained to my wife that it is 100% raw paleo diet that will save the day when it is crunch time. The people I have healed with raw paleo diet compliance heal much faster than this. This healing is progressing but it is too darn slow.
That was a good tantrum on my part. I got him to eat 5 raw oysters, taught him to squeeze some lemon on top and add a few grains of salt... expensive delicacy at restaurants called oyster rockefeller.
These are Roxas city oysters. I found a source. Cleaner than the usual oysters I get. Oysters for me are an important healing tool. Oysters have the most zinc, far far beyond raw beef. So just a few oysters will give you all the zinc you need to make those enzyme reactions to start repairing your body and finish all inflammatory healing requirements.
For fat today since he was not in a mood to eat raw bone marrow, I had been giving since yesterday 3x a day of blue ice combination fermented cod liver oil and butter oil.
I added plain yogurt to his diet and added in the fruits that he liked. Had him eating papaya and graviola in the yogurt. He's happy with that. I'm thinking I can give my boy some raw fruit carbs while yogurt backs him up.
I'm experimenting for myself with Pau d arco / taheebo tea. I will probably be replacing his lemon water drink tomorrow with taheebo tea. (lemon water is hurting his lips now)
So my anti-fungal stuff are:
- lemon in water / taheebo tea
- barefootherbalistmh.com dewormer (wife's doc and I had the same dream)
- yogurt
- oregano oil
- pulsatilla drops
He just dumped a 2nd load as I was writing this.
This seems to have white clumps in them.
I'm guessing these are the candida / fungus clumps.
I'm just hopeful.
But my healer instinct and experience knows we are making progress.
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I explained to my wife that it is 100% raw paleo diet that will save the day when it is crunch time. The people I have healed with raw paleo diet compliance heal much faster than this. This healing is progressing but it is too darn slow.
You are a professional healer, no? You have healed terrible eczema, right? I guess it doesn't matter, you have another son. Is your wife in the healing profession too? It's so hard when a spouse make a push back for every step you push forward. She likes Steiner medicine. Son likes cooked meat and excess salt (his body must be aiming for something perhaps fungus). You found paleo cured your unusual genetic eczema. He's your son. He's her son. Maybe she knows what will help him heal. Maybe her medicine will. Can she keep him away from cooked meat and added salt?
That was a good tantrum on my part. I got him to eat 5 raw oysters, taught him to squeeze some lemon on top and add a few grains of salt... expensive delicacy at restaurants called oyster rockefeller.
Oysters ARE salty, so salty that although I don't add lemon to other fish, I add it to oysters, to CUT THE SALT FLAVOR! I kind of have a feeling that either he add the lemon or salt but not both, but that's me. Oyster rockafeller have cooked butter, cooked bacon and cooked spinach?
These are Roxas city oysters. I found a source. Cleaner than the usual oysters I get. Oysters for me are an important healing tool. Oysters have the most zinc, far far beyond raw beef. So just a few oysters will give you all the zinc you need to make those enzyme reactions to start repairing your body and finish all inflammatory healing requirements.
Sounds like the perfect detox agent!
For fat today since he was not in a mood to eat raw bone marrow, I had been giving since yesterday 3x a day of blue ice combination fermented cod liver oil and butter oil.
Which animal was the marrow from? Does he avoid fats?
I added plain yogurt to his diet and added in the fruits that he liked. Had him eating papaya and graviola in the yogurt. He's happy with that. I'm thinking I can give my boy some raw fruit carbs while yogurt backs him up.
I can't picture what a graviola looks like. What kind of yogurt?
I'm experimenting for myself with Pau d arco / taheebo tea. I will probably be replacing his lemon water drink tomorrow with taheebo tea. (lemon water is hurting his lips now)
Making me think moreso maybe no lemon on his oyster. It takes the salty flavor away, and he loves salty flavor, no?
So my anti-fungal stuff are:
- lemon in water / taheebo tea
Karl Loren's wife Jean used taheebo and one or two other herbs he sells to cure her (throat) cancer, successfully I'll add.
This salt thing, in cheese, I think it makes poorer quality (more unhealthy) mold. I wonder what in does in that vein to fruit and oysters. What about explosiveness?? Could you get him to eat high kidney or high oyster?? Those taste saltier to me. I have a sneaking suspicion they're good to make good skin integrity too.
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Taheebo aka Pau D'arco is a great choice for fighting fungus. You just have to be careful of your source because Pau D'arco is one of the most difficult herbs to process correctly. I actually have yet to find one that I trust. If you found one that you have researched and trust I'd love to know the manufacturer.
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Taheebo... I've got My Marvel Taheebo, it's a known brand that is well established in Manila. Easy to buy in any drug store or supplement store.
Today is the first afternoon we do the healing room thing... my invention.
We cleaned up a small room.
Turned on the aircon and put a 3M Filtrete filter on it.
Also brought in the Bionair Air Purifier with ionizer.
I had the boy strip down totally naked.
I then placed around him 3 chopped raw onions and 6 crushed garlic cloves.
If I can't bathe him or spray him, but I can have a room smell of garlic and white onions. And have clean and dry air.
(He was always wrapping himself with cloth.)
I figured since yesterday I put my foot down on zero cooking and zero heating and he is able to chow down fully raw meat and raw fat plus raw fruit he likes: papaya and graviola drowned in plain yogurt, I'll get his intestines to heal. What is left is the drying out of his butt, his legs, his crotch.
We can see his butt drying out and going down his upper left leg.
I hope this continues to a final conclusion. Let's wait and see.
All the anti fungals are running. I'm giving barefoot dewormer 6x a day. And his water is taheebo tea. His meals are either yogurt + papaya or yogurt + graviola / guyabano or raw beef + fat. And he's taking green barley and wheat grass juice. And blue ice combination of butter oil and cod liver oil.
Plus the anthroposophic meds. And B complex supplement and vitamin D3. Plus oil of oregano internally 5x a day.
He got some sun through a window...
Seems to be working so far.
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I then placed around him 3 chopped raw onions and 6 crushed garlic cloves.
If I can't bathe him or spray him, but I can have a room smell of garlic and white onions.
I think you're on to healing now. I'm just glad it's not me with eczema or its treatment, I can't stand sulfuric vegetable in the air. My eyes would be beyond terrible.
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No poop this evening, child is asleep. Will have to give castor oil again by 1:30pm tomorrow if he still doesn't poop. With all the anti-fungals running, his guts need to be evacuated.
In the evening his butt and his upper left leg were itching weeping. I smelled the fluid and it is not the toxic lymph fluid anymore. It's more like perspiration. I've seen this before with my brother in 2007. The skin is "burned" destroyed by the toxic lymph that came out, but the pores want to "breath".
Must find a way for the skin to heal with the pores breathing. I'll look at this case as a burn case 2nd degree. Maybe someone who knows how to treat burns can chime in and give your 2 cents advice.
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Aloe vera gel has excellent burn-healing properties. Do you have aloe vera plants in the Phillippines?
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Aloe vera gel has excellent burn-healing properties. Do you have aloe vera plants in the Phillippines?
Yes we do.
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Is your son ok with aloe? It's good for so much, but about 5% of people have terrible allergy to it.
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Hi eczema is the weeping type. So not on the weeping spots, those need to go out.
His intestines are wrecked from the fungus, will need repairs.
He has to be a raw paleo dieter to heal. He's too young to do any sort of long term juice fasting. Besides, raw paleo diet is just like fasting but with nutrition.
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Anthroposophic doc just made a house call.
Taught us how to treat various wounds for healing.
Also giving injections for:
- Passiflora Comp.
- Conchac Comp.
- Batula Cortex
- Colchicum / chelidonium
- Methylcobalamin
- Borago comp
- Colon GI
- Cutis
We have the green light for orange juice fast with raw eggs from Palawan (that just arrived today.)
I'm also looking at doing Aajonus' suggested dermatitis and verticulitis.
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Note on the level of difficulty of this case:
- This 10 year old boy is immune compromised malnourished.
- Probiotics caused him to have severe fungal / yeast / candida infection which may have wrecked his digestive system.
- Old diverticulitis or colitis has plagued him.
- He is constipated and cannot poop without assistance of castor oil.
- Eczema is merely saving his life, keeping his blood clean. But at the same time the eczema is debilitating. Level of this eczema severe.
- He has tooth ache pains
- He has hemorrhoids making it impossible to do any further enemas.
- We are injecting him to make do with wrecked intestines that may not be fully absorbing nutrients.
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Today the doc and I agreed the fungal / candida / yeast crisis may be over. So we have villi / leaky gut / diverticulitis / colitis to heal.
Tomorrow my wife and I and the doc agreed we will do a 3 day orange juice fast beginning tomorrow with raw duck eggs.
I will severely be cutting out the capsules and tablets so as not to irritate the gut. Anthroposophic meds will remain... no capsules there... I will retain the barefoot dewormer... I will give the blue ice cod liver oil and butter oil but removing the capsules.
The orange juice fast is there but it is combined with fat therapy using egg yolks and cod liver oil and butter oil. Wish us luck in the implementation. My wife sees the gravity of the situation and is supportive. I will be doing the same fast as my boy.
First thing is to get him to poop.
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Looking at Aajonus' Candida explanation.
That after the orange juice fast, we will just have him eat raw fish and raw chicken to restore organ function. Only then can we reintroduce raw beef.
Good thing we have lots of sea food and I have a good organic chicken supplier.
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Sounds like you are out of your extreme emergency, have your plan and you no longer need lots of ideas put to you. You seem to have found some competent helpers in your area.
I'll wish you all the best and not check in with your thread as frequently. I know what it is like to be in an emergency and be needing lots of thoughts and ideas, but I suspect now you will be reporting your successes bit by bit and I will look forward later to seeing the pictures of your son all healed up!
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We need ideas for pooping.
He has to poop daily.
Enemas should be good, but he has haemorrhoids
He sometimes responds to castor oil, and sometimes not.
He's not out of trouble yet. Monitoring him 24 hours.
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We are on the 2nd day of a 3 day orange juice fast with raw eggs to heal his intestines.
Problem with constipation
with hemorrhoids
so it's hard to give him an enema
gave him a water enema yesterday
but only partial success pooping
hard inside
I was going to give him an oil enema but his hemorrhoids acted up.
I gave him another 1 tablespoon of castor oil.
Last night I bought Dr. Tam's Miracle Tea. I may give it to him this morning when he wakes up if I can't stick an oil enema in him. But I'd rather do the oil enema.
Considering me testing colosan and oxypowder as added tools. Any of you used those 2 products?
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Milk of magnesia will definitely work.
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Milk of magnesia will definitely work.
Thanks! I'll look for that.
Update: I left the house for 2 hours leaving my boy and my wife and his sob story works on my wife and the orange just fast is busted. I'm pissed. Goes to show when fasting children non-fasting grownups should not be left with them.
So I only got almost 2 days of orange juice fast on the boy.
Maybe he can do another day of orange juice fast with raw eggs tomorrow. I'm pissed.
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Problem with constipation
with hemorrhoids
so it's hard to give him an enema
gave him a water enema yesterday
Wow, I never cared for a constipated child. Does he gripe about the enemas? A couple times when my son (the one who's sick now) was little, if he had a fever he asked for an enema. He knew I did them on myself when I was healing from my chronic progressive lumps. So I gave him an enema a couple of times. Then an experienced with young children naturopathic doctor friend in front of me was pushy about an enema, and he said no more enemas ever. You think Preparation-H suppository for haemorrhoids would be good for a young child? It has healing fats and stimulates passing of a little stool.
Milk of magnesia will definitely work.
Doesn't that have aluminum in it? What about Those lemony magnesium sodas they give people before a colon test?
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The enema I'm gunning for is the olive oil enema.
In this entire crisis I have been frustrated each and every time and have never given it yet.
We, me, our other docs believe it has something to do with last year's intussusception episode where it was the olive oil enema I gave that saved him from surgery. (50% probability of death and 100% cutting of colon and replaced with a plastic tube.)
There is something stuck inside, distended, inflamed or impacted. Verticulitis is my guess. The anthroposophic doc thinks it is colitis. Some intestinal vili are kaput, thus the orange juice fast, plus Aajonus' raw egg + raw honey + raw butter.
We had poop success in the morning, foul poop. But we felt his chambers were not empty, so we gave Dr. Tam's miracle tea herbal colon cleanser around 1:30pm and was rewarded with another poop around 5pm.
He itches when he poops, we noticed this pattern. Seems bad stuff is mixed / disturbed in his colon when he poops. I gave him oregano oil under his tongue to relieve him. It worked.
My wife took care of putting creams and ointments in select parts of his body depending on what that thing was.
On his arms, some parts are going swell, and under his butt and legs, things seem to be healing. No big celebration yet. This is just the first day of the raw eggs + raw honey + butter oil / cod liver oil thing of Aajonus' idea. (2nd day of orange juice fast, which was botched at the end of the day.)
Hoping for an even better 3rd day tomorrow. If his hemorrhoids get better tomorrow he may be well enough for the olive oil enema.
I will look into preparation H, I now remember my mom used to buy that.
Thanks!
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I will look into preparation H, I now remember my mom used to buy that.
I believe it has shark oil and cocoa butter in it. For me, olive oil inflames me.
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Past 2 days small items on his skin had healed... no doubt due to the orange juice fast with raw eggs in them.
Successful extra virgin olive oil enema!
Got a cumulative fist load of impacted fecal matter pebbles.
But like before, he becomes itchy all over when we get him to move his bowels. It is as if we stirred something inside his guts and it is causing him to itch again. What could it be?
I'm guessing:
- the pouches where the impacted fecal matter are infected / candida infected.
- boy is eczematic so dirty blood passes dirt to the lymph, lymph passes on to the skin.
I firmly believe this is a bad case of diverticulitis with candida involved as described by Aajonus Vonderplanitz... past chronic constipation, causing malnutrition.
I need help with ITCH RELIEF.
Any ideas?
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I firmly believe this is a bad case of diverticulitis
diverticulitis usually occurs with old people. i highly doubt kids get it if ever. i would talk to professional dermatologist to make diagnosis and maybe do allergy tests.
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But like before, he becomes itchy all over when we get him to move his bowels. It is as if we stirred something inside his guts and it is causing him to itch again. What could it be?
I am guessing.. He do not like you to stir into his bowels. It must be no fun have parents stick something in your anus.. -X
I would think twice before doing that to kids. I do not mean to criticise you, might be this is a different case and really needed, I just tell how I feel about it. :)
I also think, as YS, that he has no diverticulitis. That really is an old peoples problem.
Hemorrhoids also very often are psychological. My sister got them really bad when she had stress in her life, but they magically disappeared when stress went away. Every time. Go figure. -\
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I need help with ITCH RELIEF.
Any ideas?
Generally speaking, fat is good for relieving itching. Too much carbs increases itching.
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It doesn't matter if something's an old people's problem or not... More and more young people are getting 'old people's illnesses'.
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Aajonus' opinion on colonics and impacted stools:
COLONIC is a radical flushing of the colon; that is, it is an extreme
form of enema. Colonics may flush impacted matter from the colon but
they force enormous amounts of toxins into the blood stream where
they cause heart and brain damage. Another side effect of colonics is
that they strip the colon for up to 45 days of friendly E.coli bacteria
that are necessary for the body to synthesize proteins and B vitamins.
That can result in indigestion, hypoglycemia, fatigue, anemia,
depression, irritability and backaches.
Cleansing impacted matter from the colon can be done gradually on a
raw diet that includes plenty of raw fats eaten with raw citrus,
especially unripe pineapple, raw vegetable juices and some raw
vegetables.
Thanks for the comments. All are appreciated.
It may not be diverticulitis but what is obvious is the
IMPACTED COLON / impacted fecal matter.
(Type 1 on the Bristol Stool Chart: Separate Hard Lumps, like nuts, hard to pass)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Bristol_stool_chart.svg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Bristol_stool_chart.svg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Bristol_stool_chart.svg/220px-Bristol_stool_chart.svg.png)
Last year's intussusception IMPACTED stools.
last week: Impacted stools + sludge + impacted stools
3 days ago: impacted stools
Yesterday: impacted stools again
Help me think friends, I appreciate critiques!
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I don't have much raw meat knowledge, but I'm a nurse and I've seen more than enough impacted stool. Basic medical treatment, would be to let the bowel rest to prevent increasing the blockage and nourishing with liquids. That seems to work over 1-2 weeks. If your child is hungry that's good it will encourage peristalsis, and you should give plenty of liquids. I think raw fats would be be easier to eliminate than proteins and maybe honey or low fiber fruit. like grapes minus the skin, for carbs. Maybe a mixture of egg, honey and coconut oil, and water would be a nourishing drink to eat in small amounts. If this does go on 2 weeks I feel for you booth. But keep him as hungry as he can stand. Aloe might be helpful. Gently rubbing his belly for hours daily is good, teach him to go clockwise. You want fluid, lubricant, and circulation. If he is passing any stool at all even pellets this is great, he just has to pass enough of those, so that the softer stuff can pass.
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Thanks!
More poop this morning when my boy woke up.
This time just liquid yellow brown. Maybe new or leftover from all the olive oil enema yesterday.
As usual he felt itchier.
This is a good sign. He must poop every single day.
My wife put ghee on his back to massage, boy said that helped somewhat.
He had some orange juice, pineapple, then raw egg this morning while I was in the market.
By past 11am he was hungry for meat, I tried:
- raw organic chicken with calamansi and honey (he didn't care much for it.)
- I gave him 2 small raw hasa hasa fish fillets with skin (he liked it, but not much.)
- I gave him a whole 6 inch raw squid filled with eggs in it... (he liked that and ate it all)
But of course he looked for his Filipino staple of cooked rice with cooked meat.
We were cooking the squid for the rest of the household so I had some squid half cooked for my boy with black ink and rice. He relished it, ate quite a lot of both the half cooked squid in ink and rice. Then I gave him 3 capsules of blue ice butter oil with cod liver oil downed with a little orange juice.
So that is his cheat for today as I promised him.
His left arm looks like it will heal all the way.
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On my wife's side of things, she and her sister have called up the Spiritual Crusaders / Exorcists and have been battling the forces of "kulam" / evil witch spell casters for 3 days now. I can't reveal the details because they say I'm not supposed to blog about it. But they are in full force in the thick of battle.
No Filipino healing is complete without this aspect of spiritual healing.
Whatever I'm doing is only 50% from their point of view.
That's okay, I'm just 50% of the boy's genes.
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Good luck to you in healing your son. Try to get some more fat into him, it still doesn't sound like he's getting enough.
I've only had squid ink once, but it was salty and VERY good. Is that a traditional dish? Does it have any reputed healing uses that you know of, in Phillippino culture?
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Squid is wild ocean creature and it is a treat when the batch you buy has eggs (it's high fat then). It's one of those animals my children like eating raw.
Last night my wife tried half successfully a bathtub with epsom salts and baking soda and chamomile tea. Couldn't filter quite enough water for a full bath. Will try again today.
Yesterday was my boy's cheat day with that cooked squid and rice, so today we expect him back on track with the orange juice fast + raw eggs etc... starting today for another 3 or more days.
I did give him an egg yolk liver flush this morning with 2 raw duck egg yolks and some calamansi juice. And yesterday I had him take avocado leaves tea to cleans his kidneys to lesten his itch. This morning he is itching less.
We had recognized that this is just long standing constipation impaction on his part and his colon may be damaged in some areas so orange juice fast, raw eggs, butter oil and some raw honey will be soothing for his tummy... and healing.
We are encouraged by the progress of these 3 days of not so perfect orange juice fast as it is obvious that small items have healed, the left arm is almost healed, the right lower foot is almost healed.
It's just a matter of discipline and parental wills to carry on with the fast / raw diet and balance with his cravings. If this were an adult, he should at minimum go on a 14 day orange juice fast, if he were a stronger adult, 40 days.
I had ordered LBB capsules from the USA and they should be arriving in a few days. These capsules are formulated to restore colon function and make the colon strong and independent of laxatives.
I had a bowl of his cooked squid and rice and I felt bad the entire day and night. Darn.
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I don't understand, GS. If you suspect that cooked rice caused his eczema, why are you still feeding it to him on "cheat days" while he still has the eczema? Wouldn't it make more sense to wait at least until the eczema clears or you clear rice as a suspect? I've had success with that elimination-trial approach when symptoms arise for me and it's rather standard practice among allergists who deal with food allergies and intolerances, naturopaths (including one whose services I've used) and other health practitioners. Since you apparently suffer ill effects from cooked rice and your son shares your genes and since cooked rice is not raw Paleo I think you may be right to suspect the rice.
Another potential idea--wouldn't it make it easier to identify what the source of the problem is and/or successful therapy(ies) if you change things one at a time after completing trials (the diet rotation and elimination program I tried also involved tracking daily changes in symptoms to help identify problem foods) instead of frequently changing multiple factors?
Hope this helps if you try it. It helped me, but I'm not prescribing and, as always, your/(your son's) mileage may vary. Good luck with whatever you do.
As others pointed out, too little sunlight and too much stress can also reportedly be aggravating factors. Making many frequent, unpredictable changes reportedly can contribute to stress.
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Filipinos have insatiable rice addiction. Denying him rice will be even more stressful for him.
I'm abnormal that I've gotten over rice addiction.
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That's too bad. That means if cooked rice is the culprit then it will be difficult for him to become completely healed and stay completely healed. It matches the experience of many that the most damaging foods for people are often the ones that they are most addicted to.
Some people say that fermenting foods makes them more digestible and natural and that raw fermenting creates flora on a food that are able to help digest it. For example, I find that fermented raw honey provides me with health benefits, whereas unfermented raw honey gives me health problems and unfermented heated honey gives me even more problems. Plus, raw fermented or simmered fermented rice would be more in the general direction of raw Paleo than boiled or fried rice. Have you tried raw fermented rice (aka red yeast rice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_yeast_rice, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_yeast_rice,) aka ang-kak)?
Apparently, fermented rice is used in this Filipino recipe:
http://www.foodrecap.net/recipe/burong-isda. (http://www.foodrecap.net/recipe/burong-isda.) Maybe you could develop a raw fermented version?
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Hi GS. Checking in and seeing that you are still making progress - which is good news.
Remember when your wife gave your son cooked sweet potatoes and he pooped lots. Sometimes, for some people, meat can move slowly and be constipating. From what you wrote about what you are feeding him, there is almost no fiber. White rice also has no fiber - it has been removed. Would your family at least be willing to give your son whole brown rice instead of the white rice that has been stripped to make it into empty and totally useless empty carb calories?
When I make orange juice I make it differently and this might help if possible. Instead of squeezing oranges or using any of the usual juicers I use a centrifugal juicer (mines a breville). I peel the oranges leaving a little bit of the white (navels leave almost none and juicy valencias leave more) and I put the whole orange through the juicer so that it is creamy. This makes the sugars of the juice absorb a bit slower, adds some fiber and especially - the bioflavanoids that are so very important. Besides - it tastes AMAZING - so much better than regular oj. Regular makes me feel unbalanced but this kind of juice makes me feel great.
There are some herbs that cause peristalsis, but that seems wrong somehow. The boy needs to be able to move his bowels on his own. He might be having some leaky bowel symptoms where when he poops some of the toxins get into his bloodstream because of the peristalsis. I would be giving the child a demulcent myself to coat the intestines and protect them to allow them to heal. Enemas are intense for an adult, let alone a child. Sometimes they are needed, but if you can create another way it would be much better. I understand where you are heading towards is the ultimate healing and yet again, I keep on thinking about the process to move towards that ultimate goal. Most people cannot move their bowels every day without fiber. Transitioning to an all or mostly meat diet will involve a bit bowel transition. Going back and forth from raw meat to cooked fiberless rice sounds so very difficult for a young and sick system.
If it were my child I would have the goal of moving in the right direction, no matter how slow it is, with the child pooping on their own and include whatever foods are necessary.
I understand that you are doing this with your wife and have to agree as a team. Perhaps, what might be the best is to figure out together what compromises would be best. Instead of white rice, maybe cooked sweet potatoes which have already shown to move his bowels well? Things like that. Maybe think of your wife as part of your team that you can plan with?
Maybe all together as a team you can muscle test the boy before eating anything? That might be fun for him to learn. Maybe you could teach him how to do that for you too and then he can feel powerful about getting you to eat certain things instead of others just like he has to?
Hope some of these ideas might be useful. I'll check in later again today and then probably will need to be away again for a while. Again - you're doing very well and I wish you all the best.
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Child Eczema Treatment: Eating Cooked Food for 2 straight days, Regression in Healing
So my son had no discipline for the past 2 days and ate cooked vegetables, cooked fish, cooked rice. He takes advantage of when I go out to buy supplies and pressures his mother to give him something hot, something cooked. Now we see the results, regression.
His left arm is supposed to be on the way to being healed, and now is regressing, getting sick again. His right foot, also regressing.
It is a battle of wills. He has to be on a religious orange juice fast with raw eggs, some honey and blue ice butter oil and cod liver oil. We are awaiting the barefoot LBB to arrive, that will be added too to correct his bowel health and he can poop independently of enemas. In the meantime today I will be giving him Metazyme, a custom formulated vegetable supplement from Palawan that I will use in place of LBB for the moment.
I’m looking for ways to convince him to stick to the orange juice fast. From saying does he want to get well in the quickest possible time? And if he wants to get a 50% share of a book and video deal from sales of a future ebook and DVD of this child eczema cure adventure?
All he needs is discipline. We now know what to do.
We did another olive oil enema yesterday. Pure extra virgin olive oil. We got some good poop. Nothing hard, just normal poop.
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/11/03/child-eczema-treatment-eating-cooked-food-for-2-straight-days-regression-in-healing/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/11/03/child-eczema-treatment-eating-cooked-food-for-2-straight-days-regression-in-healing/)
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will/can he eat hot broths with greens and seaweed?
or teas? there are good tasty calming ones like chamomile
cold can be hard on the body all of the time
slows down the liver and digestive system
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will/can he eat hot broths with greens and seaweed?
or teas? there are good tasty calming ones like chamomile
cold can be hard on the body all of the time
slows down the liver and digestive system
Great idea, I will try those.
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GS - Children that age are not expected to have discipline. It is up to you and your wife as a team. You say sometimes here what you say to your wife but do not say what she says. What are her views on keeping you son on raw paleo?
If every time you walk out of the house and on "cheat days" he's going to eat white rice, if white rice is what is causing the problem - you won't ever get results. If there was no cooked food in the house and everyone else was eating well to support him, this kind of thing could NOT happen. It's totally up to the ADULTS and it is their responsibility.
Have you had a good sit down conversation with your wife about this? What does she say?
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In the same way as you say that people in the Philippines are "addicted" to rice, many in the US are "addicted" to wheat. Wheat is served everywhere and it in everything.
In my youth, I suffered from eczema on my face to the degree that you son's legs are affected. Wheat was the chief culprit. My mother knew this. She also read Prevention /i] magazine, whose founder, J. I. Rodale was an early (since the 1920s) proponent of wheat-free eating. Prevention was all around the house every month. My mother, as I said, knew better, but not a meal went by that bread or other wheat product was not an integral part of the meal. In my teens, I started reading Prevention on my own, cut out wheat, and have been free of facial eczema since then - about 45 years.
I am having a very negative reaction to hearing about your son's "cheat" days. Last week, you worried for his life; now, you condone his eating food that is causing him grave illness. At ten years of age, how is he getting this rice? You say his mother... and what I'm hearing is that she is poisoning her own son! If I am misunderstanding this situation, please forgive me for reacting wrongly. Maybe I do not understand your culture, but it seems to me that a wife who lets a husband have such free reign as to let him have extramarital affairs would also comply with her husband's directives about child-rearing.
I know so many children who follow special diets for various reasons (allergies, religious observance, etc.). You can expect Cush to do what is in his best interest if you and your wife support him. Make meals for the whole family that he can eat. That is a good way to start supporting him.
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I truly appreciate the hard talk. Keep em coming.
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3 days of raw paleo diet (fish, eggs, clams, cod liver oil + butter oil + durian + mango + graviola)
with (diluted 1:5) orange juice
with anthroposophic meds
And we have great progress.
He was able to poop out a big poop by himself yesterday afternoon.
We will have to do lymph drainage on him daily.
Still waiting for barefoot LBB to arrive Tuesday. The promise is the LBB will restore and strengthen colon health.
He still has hemorrhoids. Any suggestions for hemorrhoids?
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Sometimes when there's nothing else to eat or drink and there's a juice bar that juices citrus or oranges, I get a big one for my meal. I've done this a few times. I don't like it very much, as it doesn't serve me as well as raw paleolithic food or primal diet a la AV. Adter drinking the juice I always poo. The poo burns, unlike my regular poo which does not. Could the orange juice be inflaming your son's hemeroids and be making them worse? I don't have hemeroids, so I don't know. I never burn from hot peppers or anything else.
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So glad to hear of the progress GS!
What I wrote above about juicing the whole orange except the outer peel which seems to make all the difference for us and I thought it beared repeating. When we eat an orange whole it provides much more than oj with lots of buffers and other important nutrients to balance what is in the juice. The whole orange juiced so that it is creamy (rather than how it is usually done) is absorbed much better in my body.
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To get the hemorrhoid inflammation down the constipation probably needs to be reduced and any foods that are gut irritants should probably be minimized or avoided. I found that a diet of mostly soft and liquid foods helps. I'm not sure orange juice fasts are a good idea, though. I've noticed that most of the folks that do them tend to have chronic skin problems and other health issues that don't go away despite the fasts. Of course, they tend to be vegans and vegetarians too, so that could account for it.
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We are at the home stretch.
Almost fully well.
Son went to school yesterday.
Thanks for all your help.
http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/11/25/child-eczema-cure-update-erythrasma-fusidic-acid-first-day-back-at-school/ (http://www.eczemacure.info/blog/2011/11/25/child-eczema-cure-update-erythrasma-fusidic-acid-first-day-back-at-school/)
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:) I'm glad he's getting better.
How do you get fusidic acid?
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:) I'm glad he's getting better.
How do you get fusidic acid?
It's an old drug. Just in the drug store. The brand name is Fucidin made by LEO.
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Request Advice, Tips, Help with Raw Milk Fasting
- As you know my son is some 95% well externally, just getting rid of the discoloration scars, "peklat".
- Internally, his poops are not yet at that dark brown healthy stage.
- 3 days ago I got a hold of raw milk, holstein cows, he drank some 2 liters of it for 2 days... he noticed his pee / wee wee smelled of almost as bad a canal as liver flushes
This gets me to thinking that raw milk is detoxing and may be healing for his intestines.
I looked around the net and there are a couple of links:
http://www.allaboutfasting.com/liquid-fasting.html (http://www.allaboutfasting.com/liquid-fasting.html)
and
http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html (http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html)
I need your help, experience, advice on how to go about using raw milk for healing.
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If he was healing, why would you change his diet radically again? Relax and stick with what's working for at least a while. Your goal is healing your son, rather than experimenting for experimentation's sake, right?
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Your goal is healing your son, rather than experimenting for experimentation's sake, right?
Vatta constitution the mind is all over the place.
My friend when I was a child, their mom made all kinds of natural food for the family and shopped at only the most macrobiotic places. She made my friend all kinds of concoctions of the worst tasting healthiest nutritional supplements. She talked of solving world food problems etc. My friend resolved all health issues, but to this day makes fun of the mom's food extremisms and lives as far away as earthly possible.
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If he was healing, why would you change his diet radically again? Relax and stick with what's working for at least a while. Your goal is healing your son, rather than experimenting for experimentation's sake, right?
that was going to be my question, maybe he is going back to dysbiosis and balancing and having moderation in his diet and all things is what's proper
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I'm sorry to say this but your frantic techniques and rapid (sometimes contradicting) conclusions make you look like a quack and not a healer.
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quack is quite harsh and unnecessary! perhaps just an overly concerned dad with a bit of a lack of patience or appreciation or acceptance for subtly, gentleness or moderation?
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I'm sorry to say this but your frantic techniques and rapid (sometimes contradicting) conclusions make you look like a quack and not a healer.
From a terrible to die for affliction,
boy is 95% well after 2 months.
I'm doing a pretty good job so far.
We are in scar healing mode.
Had the massage therapist use ghee on his body last night.
Ghee is the core ingredient in "sebo de macho", a popular scar remover.
Primal dieters with Aajonus benefit from raw milk.
I'm lactose intolerant.
But at his age of 10, he's not lactose intolerant.
He's up.
Seems the ghee massage did good.
We both see good progress in our scar healing / vanishing.
If the addition of raw milk to his diet can accelerate his healing, then it is worth a try.
Of course the flip side is if raw milk can sabotage his healing.
I'm thankful for all your replies (harsh, sharp and honest is truly great)... we are an awesomely helpful community.
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As far as being a crazy parent goes. People have no idea how they will feel or what they will do when it's their child. I have felt the desire to make others suffer great pain who have hurt my child, it required lots of energy to breathe deeply and remind myself that my rage was not helping my child, but murderous rage is definitely what comes up for this mother bear when her cub suffers any normal offence of peer relations. Our desire to love and protect our children isn't rational. Its primal. More intense and immediate than anything I have ever felt. The desire to act grips at your throat when you fear for your child's health. EXTREEME!!!!!
Nobody knows anything for sure, we are all just doing our best guess work, so I'm glad you feel supported here on your path. I'm sure you've made mistakes and suffered for them, the hardest mistakes I've had to recover from is when I've veered off my chosen course of action b/c somebody else said I was wrong and I trusted "there expertise" over myself. It takes great courage to stand alone and do what you think is best for your children, but if things go wrong, nobody suffers like the loving parent. Keep your chin up, ever body can see you love your son.
All that said, you do seem desperate and extreme, but we're not there. When I get report on a patient I think I know what is going on, but I am face to face I only have abstractions. When you have been face to face with a person though there life, have knowledge of healing, and the grace to act strongly, without "pushing the river" you are the best qualified to make decisions. Clearly you are striving to achieve this. I'm so glad for you both for all of your successes.
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would this work for seborrheic dermatitis?
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would this work for seborrheic dermatitis?
www.eczemacure.info (http://www.eczemacure.info) cure protocols? Id believe yes. Seborrheic dermititis is just another name.