I actually stopped using rendered suet because i stopped drying out my skin with hot showers. (on a side not, the first time i rendered it i didnt 'filter' it through some kitchen paper, and I accidently got it in my hair while showering - and I ended up smelling like a dead animal for a few days! )

That said, once I got some nice 'pure' stuff, I was much happier putting that on my skin. And from what I can remember it worked rather well.

I'm slowly making my showers colder and colder tho, but as long as they are not 'hot' I think its preference really as your skin won't get too dried out.

Toothpaste is still something I am undecided over.... (i think im am a little brainwashed into thinking I need it, although if i ate loads of fruit I perhaps would)

And hey, we're might be mainly guys - but we still wash!  sometimes.... 

ARMY + ZERO CARB
Hi,

I was think about joining the british army.

I think i might have to abandon zero-carbing/raw paleoing because it would surely be impossible.

If anyone has an experience or thoughts that would be most useful.

Right now it is the only thing holding me back.

thanks.

David

grassfed and raw is definately the way to go

Hi again! :-) I wish we had farmers market here in Derby, I wish we had a proper summer too.
By the way how many Brits do we have on this forum? So far I've noticed 3... I hope that more people will become intersted in raw paleo diet and lifestyle.
David, when did you start eating raw meat and organs? How did your friends and family react to your slightly "eccentric" new eating habits? :-)))))))
I was quite lucky, my friends' reaction was quite positive, though they thought it was just a phase :-)

There is one!  But its every 3rd thursday of each month..... 

I count 27 british members. Click 'members' at the top.

About 1 month of raw meat/organs/fats. About 1 week of trying zeroish carb.

I'm not afraid to tell people what I eat. Not anymore anyway My flatmates we're split in their opinions, but now its old news. 1 jokes with me about it, the other thinks its really cool! My family are also pretty 'cool' - it was only in our countryside pub when I refused a pint that all faces became most concerned. ".......Really?"   

I'm glad your friend is also 'cool' 

Let me know if theres anything I can help you with,

David

ps Do you notice how much I like these little faces? I think I might go for a world record next post.....

good plan, do you air you high stuff?

this is something i sent to a particular paleo someone.....hope you all feel lucky to be included 

(or of course 'un' lucky (depending on if you are a half full/empty kinda person )


hey,

i'll tell you one thing, liver smoothies were definately a phase! One i dont think I'll repeat!

Liver is such a treat, it utterly defeats the point of doing all that to it. Essentially I was trying to mask the taste, and in the end it was horrible!

I think raw liver is such a mega food, I wouldn't eat it everyday. You can tell when you've had enough, and if you imagine killing an animal, the ratio of liver to the rest is fairly small! I think this animal/ratio logic isnt a bad idea to get a vague balance of what to eat. But even better than that is getting back to being in sync with your body....

Sorry I actually wasn't intending to say all this at all! Instead I was actually going to say that today I had raw liver, and it was FANTASTIC. Having bought a lovely lambs liver from a happy grass fed sheep, I.....

-Got a medium pan, put about a couple millimeters of water and heated till it boiled, than turned off the heat. I than put 1/3 of the whole liver in (about a decent handful pieceish ) I popped the lid on, and left it for 5 or so mins. I did turn it over and left for a few minutes.

This is not to cook it in anyway, but warm it.. (body tempishish/warm meat of ANY sort is better. Think about it )

Anyway...

-I then cut the liver into very thin slices using an incredibly sharp knife....and made a nice circular arrangement on a plate with them....

-I then sprinkled sea salt, ground black pepper, paprika and garlic powder to taste into the used water, and added a bit more water to make about a cup of 'broth'. The simpler the better, maybe next time no chilli...

-I poured this into a beautiful blue, handless cup - which i placed in the centre of the plate.

I ate with chopsticks (2 skewers!), savouring and sipping whilst listenning to my flatmate recording her beautiful music, while thinking about the universe and how we're are all part of a big picture. Oh, and really relishing the soft textures/flavours with the peppy/salty broth.

It was both delicious and spiritual. Super, mega good for mind and body.

So there we go. Never again am I going to soberly take for granted something that has such wonderful potential. Or rather IS wondeful.

Each to their own of course

Hope you had fun reading this, I had fun writing it.

David A-C

xxx

thanks alot, i like you star lady.

And Josh, know what you mean mate - I'm sick of repeating history.

GS, why not sub VCO for raw animal fat like suet/marrow? Surely that would be even better considering it would have no 'potential' plant nasties.

D

I definately agree with these peeps. I ate according to all sorts of weird cultish diets that did nothing for my health. Never been squeamish of raw animal foods coming from a real foodie/chef family with raw beef/fish/eggs as I grew up in the country, but truely started eating MAINLY animals - meat/fat/organs etc. and very little else about 2 weeks ago. About 1 large meal a day, later in the day more if hungry. For me, this is totally brilliant. Balanced mood, feel strong, bloody awesome. The people on this website are really great, some in particular are really really great in regards to balanced, sound advice. It takes some time to get use to physically, and it definately does take some time mentally. The hardest thing was actually realizing the drug like effect of cooked food! I try and trick myself and convience myself its good when i know its not. Not because of what people TELL me, but because of how I feel when i eat raw vs cooked.

Finding this 'diet' if you can call it that is the best damned thing to happen to me. However its only 2 weeks so I'll keep you guys posted! Oh yeah, and also doing my own research into history of man and diet/health/evolution too! may even study it as a degree if all goes well! ha!

But for me mate, its all about the animals. I definately do best like lex with bare minimal carbs. Like a supplement at most. but everyones different, tis just me / People give some good advice in regards to how much of what, but I think if you look at an animal and what there is edible on that animal, you get a vague idea of the preportions of organs/fat/meat. Read some peoples journals, I found Lexs' useful.

Good luck mate, have fun! Its really crazy!

David, 22, London

Well after eating raf for a little while now (couple of weeks perhaps) I have experimented a few times with cheat/shit foods....

1-When I cooked and ate a decent ammount of very fatty lamb, I had a stomach upset! Which is funny because when I ate raw beef/fat, liver, eggs, 'ripe-ish' blood, and lamb shoulder (that was a couple of weeks old) I felt great.

2-When I went home last weekend I ate alot of cooked meats (prawns, lamb, chicken, salmon, ham) and also some whipped cream + brownie. I had another stomach upset (which i feel was the overload of cooked meat mixed with carbs and dairy! (which I never eat!).

3-I smoked some weed today with a friend who returned from holiday and in turn went to the pub...I ate 2 burgers (no bread) with sweet potato chips and drank 1 1/2 pints of guiness/IPA (ale-ish kinda stuff) I had another stomach upset! followed by strong carb cravings and manically eating 1/2 a pack of choco biscuits and a load of chocolate which altered my amazingly balanced mood for the worse AND made me feel disgusting.

So. I have learnt.

1)do not make sudden changes to your diet (most important)
2)if you start messing with your body, it can snowball (ie drugs.........drinking....then eating crap.......then bingeing on chocolate)
3)carbs are truely addictive and mood altering
4)certain food 'combining' (like perhaps small amounts of dairy+fruit+brown+ice cream+coffee AFTER large ammounts of cooked chicken+salmon+ham+mango+pasturised butter) definately is a no no, once your gut bacteria has somewhat altered.
5)that when you eliminate certain foods, addictions and cooked foods, you slowly require them less and see them as they are without that mental attachment.

6)eating raw meat/fat/organs (in smaller ammounts) is the best for me right now, without any carbs/drugs/cooking. full stop.

I will learn from my mistakes. Its not easy. Particularly the idea of raw meat tomorrow after having a stomach upset today (today was the burger day) is a bit scary. But it wont take long to get my taste back for it. I was really getting a taste for it! For the meat, and for the lifestyle. Everything. Can't wait to jump right back in! Its hard, but I know its right. I think you do about most things. Its so bloody weird that I get ill from what I've been eating for my whole life, but I know its from chopping and changing.

I have a date tomorrow! I might feel like crap, who knows! I dont care because with each step I am getting closer to the state in which my body thrives! Which means I am slowly getting happier and stronger. Which rocks.

VIVA PALEO LIVING!! 

-David 

Which specific herb/plants would you prepose as to having a significant place in the history of man Mr Durden? (as of course in the supplemental form as suggested)

....if one could suggest any specifics that is.

yeah borough markets a rip off. was 'desperate'.

ps i do think liver smoothies is perhaps a bit disgusting. if your going to eat a raw liver, just eat it.

but then again maybe next week i'll have to unquenchable thirst for one. mmm braiinnnnsss.

david

Have made 2 liver smoothies now.

1st) Lambs liver that was grass fed, but finished on grain, and 3 duck eggs - both from borough food market in London. ('Ginger Pig' butcher for the meat)

-Just some Celtic sea salt and lots of freshly ground black pepper
-Made approx. 1/3rd of a litre, or maybe around 10oz glass (or a little under of both) and of a perfectly glossy consistency.
-Rich and Delicious, a powerhouse of vitamins and minerals. Taste was powerful.
-Disgusting to your first reactions, but ignore the bad habits you've learnt and really listen to your body.

(Takes some mental strength to re-train yourself to eat something so radically different.)


2nd) Lambs liver that was entirely grass fed (225gs), with whitish marrow from similar grass fed lambs (50g/5dspns)- both from Marylebone farmers market in London.

-Just a pinch of salt, and some fresh ground black pepper -- plus 1 chunk of both ginger and fresh red chilli (1/2 inch cubed..), splash of filt. water to whiz.
-Made approx. 1/3rd of a litre, or maybe around 10oz glass (or a little under of both) and of a very thick dessert consistency.
-Rich and fatty, substantial and nutritious. Milder, but with spicy undertones.
-Delicious and pudding like, ate half with spoon / other half blended with some water and downed - refreshing and nourishing.

(100 grass fed tastes better)


1 per week for me at the moment, these shakes make me feel incredible. Might experiment with cacao  .....

All the best.

David