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Hot Topics / Re: Humans made fire 790,000 years ago...
« on: October 29, 2008, 02:41:03 am »


   Years ago in Hawaii I had the most delicious mackeral.  We simply though it in a smoldering fire and came back an hour later.  You can also heat flat rocks over a fire.  So there are lots of ways to 'cook' foods without containers.    But just for the record, I don't cook.

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General Discussion / making high meat at room temp.
« on: October 27, 2008, 11:49:17 am »

  Interested in finding out if anyone has any experience in making high meat at room temp. I know that when I made Kefir, that I read if I kept my milk closure to body temp than room temp that I would end up with more bacteria and less yeast.  The bacteria thrive at body temp as opposed to the yeast which prefer room temp.  One could infer the similar possibility that meat made high at room temp. or above would support bacteria that might thrive or find the similar temp of our intestines condusive for proliferating.    Or, if anyone has tried 'innoculating' their meat first with any sort of bacteria or organisms like EM products.  I have thought of straining dirt and water from virgin areas and rinsing the meat in that water.  I would strain, if I did it, the possible parasitic eggs in soil.  My dogs routinely bury their meat and bones.  I've read where the nematodes actually eat the rotting flesh, thus keeping the meat 'healthy'.  Although I have no idea about this.  It does seem to me that in airing out the meat every day, that the bacteria I am exposing the meat to is primarily what's in the air at the time.  Seems to be kinda iffy in terms of creating a healthy strain?       Years ago when I first started feeding my dogs raw,  I read a book by an old Italian woman with years of experience feeding dogs raw.  She strongly suggested buying large chunks of meat and burry it instead of refridgerating and definately instead of freezing it.      Thus I have also thought of wrapping meat with a permeable membrane, like a high thread count cotton, so that worms and other insects etc, couldn't get at the meat but bacteria could.   Anyone want to experiment with me?

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General Discussion / Re: Rendered fat from Wellness Meats - buyer beware.
« on: October 16, 2008, 01:04:46 am »
Below is a response I received from Wellness Meats - see attached .pdf for ISU test results.

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From: "John Wood" <eathealthy@grasslandbeef.com>
Subject: Rendered fat from Wellness Meats - buyer beware. - Raw Paleo Diet Forum

Van,
 
Thank you for bringing this up . . . Interesting read.  I have very little spare time in my life and would have never known this was going on.
 
Our tallow has looked the same from day one.  Our omega 3 ratios have been stellar every time they were tested at the ISU meat science lab.  No starch is included in the diet from start to finish.
 
Note PDF attached with a the tallow demonstrating a better ratio of omega 6:3 than two lamb cuts tested in June.  Lamb will usually be hard to beat.  1.65:1 is pretty good compared to grain fed at 20:1.
 
The only things that make any sense are as follows on my best guess:
•   Jim Gerrish, PhD grazing guru, who worked for Univ. of Missouri for 20 plus years indicated the trick was to get cattle to gain in excess of 1.5 lbs. a day on quality forage and management to reduce the yellow fat.  If done properly you will not see the yellow fat.
•   Wheat pasture is famous for yellow fat and a lot of winter wheat pasture can be found in southern Oklahoma and North Texas.
•   We only harvest animals under 30 months of age.  If cows were in the mix, then one would expect to see some yellow fat.
•   The last explanation might be rendering technique involving temperature and how much material is separated off after melting.
In closing, we simply render the suet into tallow/lard like our ancestors did 150 years ago.  We add nothing to the product to enhance color, flavor etc.  It has always been pearly white in color.
 
Thank you for bringing this up and feel free to post the pdf.
 
John
 
"Our Animals Eat Right So You Can Too!
U.S. Wellness Meats
P.O. Box 9
204 East Lafayette
Monticello, MO  63457
PH: (877) 383-0051
Cell: (660) 341-2789
Fax: (573) 767-5475
URL: www.uswellnessmeats.com



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