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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Off Topic => Topic started by: TylerDurden on November 18, 2010, 09:17:07 am
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I love quotations, so here is a thread inspired by SD's other post, in which people can post the quotation they currently resonate with.
Here is my contribution:- "Indolence is a delightful but distressing state; we must be doing something to be happy." Ghandi
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"We can actually hip throw him to the side, he goes to the ground, we choke him out, and then once he's choked out we can do games like 'pull the pants down and hide the spice bottle'; it's a fun thing to do! And it will get a lot of laugh out of a lot of people!"
-Bas Rutten.
Accompanying video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y
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"Look, you got the milk, why buy the cow? I'm with you, don't marry her."
Don Frye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huuhRcnDUUk&feature=fvw
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"For us to maintain our way of living, we must tell lies to each other and especially to ourselves. The lies are necessary because, without them, many deplorable acts would become impossibilities."
- derrick jensen
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"The world we have created is a product of our thinking; it cannot be changed without changing our thinking."
-Albert Einstein
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“You don’t need to see his identification … These aren’t the droids you’re looking for … He can go about his business … Move along.” Obi Wan Kanobi
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"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt." --Bertrand Russell, The Triumph of Stupidity
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"I'm a survivor (what),
I'm not gonna give up (what),
I'm not gon' stop (what),
I'm gonna work harder (what),
I'm a survivor (what),
I'm gonna make it (what),
I will survive (what),
Keep on survivin' (what)"
---Destiny's Child
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above post not worthy here. no offense
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"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."
Samuel Adams
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above post not worthy here. no offense
Who are you to say something like that?
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"Who are you to say something like that?"
-ForTheHunt.
=D
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"lol i dunno. i just feel like destiny child r kinda lame. i have no prob w music lyrics, just destiny child? rly? they dont even write their own shit"
The PresidenT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xpl444FC4&NR=1
kind of thing you can just repeat outloud over an over again while killing time at the DMV.
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Just look at my sig for my favorite quote.
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I love Dune. It is far better than the critics claimed.
"The secret to happiness is freedom, ... And the secret to freedom is courage.”
Thucydides
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Lao Tzu
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Lao Tzu
I like this one
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I like this one
Thank you, man - glad you dig it.
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"The great moments of our life are at the points when we gain courage to re-baptise our badness as the best in us." (Nietzsche)
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regardless of whether destiny's child wrote that quote, it's still a good quote and pretty appropriate for this raw paleo forum
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"The great moments of our life are at the points when we gain courage to re-baptise our badness as the best in us." (Nietzsche)
ooooo, i like that one. thanks
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ooooo, i like that one. thanks
One of my favorites ever!
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"Fuck you and the horse you rode in on" -unknown
"A strong hatred is the best lamp to bear in our hands as we go over the dark places of life, cutting away the dead things men tell us to revere." -Rebecca West
"My hatred is a thousand times more powerful than all your good intentions." -Jim Goad
“Let them hate, so long as they fear.” Lucius Accius Telephus
"What we need is hatred. From it our ideas are born. -Jean Genet "
"Hatred observes with more care than love does." -Mason Cooley
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"No, You are not the boss of me!"
- a youngster i work with said that to an employee, the energy and sincerity gave me goosebumps.
I wish the general public had the spine of this 3 year old!
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"lol i dunno. i just feel like destiny child r kinda lame. i have no prob w music lyrics, just destiny child? rly? they dont even write their own shit"
The PresidenT
Lead singer Beyoncé Knowles is a singer-songwriter and according to Wikipedia, "wrote and produced almost every single track on the [Survivor] album." The quote is perfectly worthy here.
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"A strong hatred is the best lamp to bear in our hands as we go over the dark places of life, cutting away the dead things men tell us to revere." -Rebecca West
Sounds like Carl Sagan in a BAD mood!
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"Seize from every moment its unique novelty, and do not prepare your joys."
Not my fave, but I like (need!) being reminded to enjoy the journey as I often make long term goals, rush to the finish line, and then the accomplishment is entirely anti-climactic at best.
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I've written this on stall walls all over North America... ;D ;)
To be is to do — Socrates
To do is to be — Jean Paul Sartre
Do be do be do — Frank Sinatra
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I don't like formal gardens. I like wild nature. It's just the wilderness instinct in me, I guess.
-- Walt Disney
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"Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a straight line. .... There is a fractal face to the geometry of nature." --Benoit Mandelbrot, The Fractal Geometry of Nature, 1983, pp. 1, 3
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"Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a straight line. .... There is a fractal face to the geometry of nature." --Benoit Mandelbrot, The Fractal Geometry of Nature, 1983, pp. 1, 3
Thanks for the tip PP I have it on order from the library.
If you're going through hell, keep going. --- Winston Churchill
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Now I know I have a heart... 'cause it's breaking ! ---- The "Tin Man" in the "Wizard of OZ"
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0004331/quotes
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"Do unto others as they would have done unto themselves." --- Dr Tony Alessandra... "The Platinum Rule"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrjpwXIwUuc
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A couple more interesting variations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWcgsQOrXgE
The Gold-Plated Brazen Rule
This rule was described by Robert Axelrod in his book The Evolution of Cooperation and labeled by Carl Sagan. It was found to be the most effective strategy in the Prisoner's Dilemma game.
Be friendly at first meetings.
Do not envy.
Be generous; forgive your enemy if he forgives you.
Be neither a tyrant nor a patsy.
Retaliate proportionately to an intentional injury (within the constraints of the law).
Make your behavior fairly (although not perfectly) clear and consistent.
You're welcome, Al.
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"We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by the love we're not extending in the present."
Marianne Williamson
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"the speed of combat is quickly becoming too fast for human decision makers."
--JOHN MARKOFF, "War Machines: Recruiting Robots for Combat," NYT, November 27, 2010, http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/science/28robot.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&src=ig
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"People need to believe that order can be glimpsed in the chaos of events.” — John Gray, Heresies
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"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do."
"Death is the solution to all problems. No man - no problem."
"A sincere diplomat is like dry water or wooden iron."
Joseph Stalin
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"Let's start with one simple idea: Mother Nature isn't stupid. She didn't make human beings the only species that prefers foods that will kill us." - Tom Naughton, Fathead (the movie http://www.hulu.com/watch/196879/fat-head - warning, the movie promotes cooked LC diets and features the Eades prominently as experts, so it would likely anger folks like Tyler)
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"Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances."
Herodotus
"In soft regions are born soft men."
Herodotus
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"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy,the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the Americas Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon."
-Chris Rock
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"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy,the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the Americas Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon."
-Chris Rock
Now, that's a good one!
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"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy,the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the Americas Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon."
-Chris Rock
Excelente!!
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"Until shortly before the common era, the very last 1 percent of human history, the social landscape consisted of elementary self-governing kinship units that might, occasionally, cooperate in hunting, feasting, skirmishing, trading, and peacemaking. It did not contain anything one could call a state. In other words, living in the absence of state structures has been the standard human condition."
- James C. Scott, PhD, The Art of Not Being Governed
Hannibal, could you please make this thread a sticky so it's easy to find?
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The further backward you can look,
The further forward you can see.
Winston Churchill
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"Look what venison does to a goofy guitar player from Detroit? I'm going to be 54 this year and if I had any more energy I'd scare you." (Ted Nugent)
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O tempora! O mores! (lit. "Oh what times! Oh what customs!") - Cicero(in his speech denouncing Catiline).
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“He who is brave is free."
“As is a tale, so is life: not how long it is, but how good it is, is what matters.”
-Seneca.
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“If you're not willing to lose everything, you'll never be able to gain anything.” —Costas Gournas
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Oh, give me a home where the buffalo roam
Where the deer and the antelope play
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are not cloudy all day Brewster Higley
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People are always ready to do the right thing
After they have exhausted all the other possibilities
W. Churchill
(It may be not exactly as he said it)
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When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you usually will."
— Abraham Lincoln
A drunkard had told me something similar when I was sleeping on the streets, he was going into some monolog about how you have to dig in( he had literally made a dug out and lived in a thicket at a city park and survived off of garbage for years, anyway he could tell that I was judging him to be loony and then he said to me,point blank, If you are going to look for fault in a person you will find it. It struck me as being prophetic at the time. I didn't know it was derived from the Abraham Lincoln quote, anyway I began to take him more seriously and even made pilgrimage to northern California because he said it was the perfect place to life as a vagrant. It may have been when he was there 20 years ago but by the time I got there I found much of it to be a meth hole, although the weather was nice and the forrest were beauteous.
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"Be hearty in your approbation, and lavish in your praise.” -American steel magnate Charles Schwab (not the discount broker), a quote popularized by Dale Carnegie
An aside regarding:
When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you usually will."
— Abraham Lincoln
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Excellent choice, Sabertooth. That is also one of my favorite quotes and I hope this won't be perceived as nit-picky, but it didn't actually come from Lincoln. I was impressed by it when I came across it in a positive-thinking book somewhere (I thought it was in one of Dale Carnegie's books, but I haven't found it there since), but when I went searching for it again to get the right wording I learned that its source was not Lincoln, but rather a far more humble source--David Swift, the director of the Disney movie Pollyanna...
"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will. Abraham Lincoln." —the character Reverend Ford, reading a fictional inscription on Pollyanna's locket, conceived by David Swift, Writer/Director of the 1960 Disney Film Pollyanna
Swift had derived the quote from one in the book that the movie was based on:
"When you look for the bad, expecting it, you will get it. When you know you will find the good--you will get that." -fictional sermon of the Reverend Paul Ford in Pollyanna, by Eleanor H. Porter, http://porter.thefreelibrary.com/Pollyanna/22-1
So the earliest known source of this quote was the humble author Eleanor Porter, whose book Pollyanna (intended for little girls) and its message have ironically become the object of derision over the years. What is the point of this other than accuracy? Well, this and other misattributions have taught me to be skeptical of the attributions and wordings of popular quotes and to consider whether a quote that doesn't need a famous name attached to it may provide more useful advice than one that does. I find that Swift's quote holds up pretty well in my experience without Lincoln's name attached, but I still find it useful to ask myself if a quote would stand on its own and whether it holds true in the real world.
There is a corrollary to this. Nassim Taleb has advised that we should be more skeptical of someone who wears a tie, not less. Taleb explained, "You have to ask yourself why he is wearing a tie. More often than not, he's not an expert. He just wants you to think he is."
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There is a corrollary to this. Nassim Taleb has advised that we should be more skeptical of someone who wears a tie, not less. Taleb explained, "You have to ask yourself why he is wearing a tie. More often than not, he's not an expert. He just wants you to think he is."
I was going along with you right up to the point where you started dumpin on the guy with the tie. ;D
I hate ties. They are dangerous pointless and the a#*hole who invented them should be strung up by it.
Nonetheless I wore one for many years because it allowed me to work in an industry where you basically are obliged to wear one. I am not an expert, but what I wear has no bearing on anything other than whether I wish to work, get married, whatever.
If Nassir Taleb wishes to wear a Fez or a black undershirt under his jacket that's because as an drinker from the university trough he can look however ridiculous he wants.
Whew Great rant Al. ;D
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I was going along with you right up to the point where you started dumpin on the guy with the tie. ;D
I hate ties. They are dangerous pointless and the a#*hole who invented them should be strung up by it.
Nonetheless I wore one for many years because it allowed me to work in an industry where you basically are obliged to wear one. I am not an expert, but what I wear has no bearing on anything other than whether I wish to work, get married, whatever.
If Nassir Taleb wishes to wear a Fez or a black undershirt under his jacket that's because as an drinker from the university trough he can look however ridiculous he wants.
Whew Great rant Al.
:) As a wage slave, I understand. I'm not dumping on all tie wearers. I have worn ties too, despite finding them uncomfortable and pretty silly, but I didn't take offense at Taleb's words because I don't think he was referring to ordinary folks like you and me. He usually makes such remarks while talking about bigwigs like Timothy Geithner, Ben Bernanke, prominent economists and bankers and the like. Unfortunately, short quotes don't include the contexts they come from, so they can be misunderstood in this way.
I was required or strongly urged to wear a tie in certain jobs, such as jobs in the financial industry, in part I think because the employers wanted me and other employees to give the impression of credibility, stability, authority, and so forth. Taleb seems to be suggesting that we shouldn't let appearances sway us too greatly and maintain a healthy level of skepticism.
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:) As a wage slave, I understand. I'm not dumping on all tie wearers. I have worn ties too, despite finding them uncomfortable and pretty silly, but I didn't take offense at Taleb's words because I don't think he was referring to ordinary folks like you and me. He usually makes such remarks while talking about bigwigs like Timothy Geithner, Ben Bernanke, prominent economists and bankers and the like. Unfortunately, short quotes don't include the contexts they come from, so they can be misunderstood in this way.
I was required or strongly urged to wear a tie in certain jobs, such as jobs in the financial industry, in part I think because the employers wanted me and other employees to give the impression of credibility, stability, authority, and so forth. Taleb seems to be suggesting that we shouldn't let appearances sway us too greatly and maintain a healthy level of skepticism.
I know what you are saying and I am not attacking you, but I think that Taleb was taking a cheap shot at someone he didn't like maybe because of jealousy that he was stuck in his career in a university. You don't have to make sense in attacking someone if you can divert from the actual topic by making a dumb correlation with their clothing choices. Most entertainers of my generations wore ridiculous clothes on stage and off stage but I liked their music not their clothes.
As far as big shots wearing ties well that's the way they view the world. If they didn't wear a tie that would be a statement too. Look at me I don't wear a tie. Sort of like Elton John doing a Boy Scout movie.
Wearing jeans makes some people feel like they are some kind of a common hero. To me they are cold stiff and uncomfortable and a fashion statement, expressing a fear of looking like they are someone rich. I used to fly with a guy who couldn't wait to get off work so he could go around in scruffy clothes and a tee shirt. I think what he really was saying is look at me I am really not a rich guy in a cool well paid job, I am just a poor workin stiff like everybody else.
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That man who had some how found that jewel of a quote that I Miss attributed to Lincoln, sent me to Eureka California were I had another sign appear on a wall by a homeless shelter, All who wander are not lost.(it fit me to a T). all our words are colored by the spirits of the past and our language is a treasure trove of humanity, keeping Noble souls alive by spreading thei words to a new generation is a good cause, I have often changed the quotes of others to make them my own.
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I know what you are saying and I am not attacking you,
I know you're not attacking me and I'm not attacking you. I just didn't take Taleb's quote as a cheap shot because he was stuck in his career in a university. On the contrary, he had already earned his "F*** you" money by the time he wrote the quote. He could do whatever he wanted. On the other hand, Taleb admits that if an aphorism has to be explained it probably isn't that good, so perhaps this one isn't that good.
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One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
H.S.T
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"Villainy wears many masks, none of which so dangerous as virtue... "Ichabod Crane from the film Sleepy Hollow.
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"Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such [poor] keeping as our souls are now."
- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Notes_on_the_State_of_Virginia
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"What most persons consider as virtue, after the age of 40 is simply a loss of energy." -Voltaire
(I don't have a source for this one, so I'm not sure if it was really Voltaire who wrote or said it.)
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"There is no greater fool than someone who thinks himself clever." --Tyl Eulenspiegel the trickster
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"Oderint dum metuant." ("Let them hate me as long as they fear me")- Caligula
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"The only Zen you find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there." (Robert Pirsig)
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world.
The unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man
George Bernard Shaw.
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A fine is a tax for doing wrong, a tax is a fine for doing well.
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To face what we are in the end,
We stand before the light
And our true nature is revealed.
Self-revelation is annihilation of self :P
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"The only Zen you find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there." (Robert Pirsig)
I Guy at my UU Buddhist group told me about Pirsig and I read Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance.
He was a conceptual Dynamo I was refreshed by many of his Ideas.
"The law of gravity and gravity itself did not exist before Isaac Newton."
...and what that means is that that law of gravity exists nowhere except in people's heads! It 's a ghost!"
Mind has no matter or energy but they cant escape its predominance over everything they do. Logic exist in the mind. numbers exist only in the mind. Idont get upset when scientists say that ghosts exist in the mind. its that only that gets me. science is nly in your mind too, it s just that that dosent make it bad. or ghosts either."
Laws of nature are human inventions, like ghosts. Law of logic, of mathematics are also human inventions, like ghosts."
...we see what we see because these ghosts show it to us, ghosts of Moses and Christ and the Buddha, and Plato, and Descartes, and Rousseau and Jefferson and Lincoln, on and on and on. Isac Newton is a very good ghost. One of the best. Your common sense is nothing more than the voices of thousands and thousands of these ghosts from the past."
— Robert M. Pirsig (Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values)
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I Guy at my UU Buddhist group told me about Pirsig and I read Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance.
He was a conceptual Dynamo I was refreshed by many of his Ideas.
If you liked "Zen...", the I recommend his 2nd book, "Lila". Incredible work.
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‘it no longer matters if these people are right about global warming, I don’t want to live in a world controlled by them. I am Sparticus!’ -anonymous poster on the internet in an angered response to the fruit and nut cakes at 10:10 who released a campaign in which school children who question their teachers global warming alarmist bovine feces are blown up (with explosives). The campaign was pulled within hours, as a tsunami of disgust, fear and loathing appeared on their horizon.
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What do you mean "red meat'll kill you?" People are starving all over the world, what do you mean red meat will kill you, if you're one of the chosen few people in the world lucky enough to get your hands on a piece of steak then bit the Sh*t out of it.
Chris Rock
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"Report suspicious activity! Total Bull----! You have created a self fulfilling prophecy."
Message ,from two packages sent to Maryland's governor and transportation secretary that ignited when they were opened, railing against highway signs urging motorists to report suspicious activity.
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Before I speak let me say a few things. Anonymous
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"II.7 (gladiator barracks); 8767: Floronius, privileged soldier of the 7th legion, was here. The women did not know of his presence. Only six women came to know, too few for such a stallion."
From graffiti of Pompeii
aka my favorite internet find all year so far.
http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm
notice all the uh...non hetro stuff
all you sillies!
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"And when they found they couldn't answer even these simple questions, the punks became angry, and their anger grew, and grew, until it was rage. Their rage burned brightly, filling South Street with something like light, but redder than the moon and hotter than the sun..."
Punk Testament, Chapter 7, 1-9
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"II.7 (gladiator barracks); 8767: Floronius, privileged soldier of the 7th legion, was here. The women did not know of his presence. Only six women came to know, too few for such a stallion."
From graffiti of Pompeii
Awesome! ;D
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Awesome! ;D
I love these. nothing has changed (in a good way!)
VI.14.43 (atrium of a House of the Large Brothel); 1520: Blondie has taught me to hate dark-haired girls. I shall hat them, if I can, but I wouldn’t mind loving them. Pompeian Venus Fisica wrote this.
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Special quotes for today:
"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity."
"A man who won't die for something is not fit to live....A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on the installment plan."
MLK
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" Quintili Vare, legiones redde! "
-- Augustus Caesar, according to Suetonius, used to bang his head against the walls yelling so (it means 'Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions!')
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On errors of the narrative fallacy (also called illusory correlation) and overconfidence in consensus:
"I see men ordinarily more eager to discover a reason for things than to find out whether things are so." - Michel de Montaigne 1532-1592
"The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"The narative fallacy addresses our limited ability to look at sequences of facts without weaving an explanation into them, or, equivalently, forcing a logical link, an arrow of relationship, upon them. ....
The more you summarize, the more order you put in, the less randomness. Hence the same condition that makes us simplify pushes us to think that the world is less random than it actually is." - Nassim Taleb
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This certainly explains a lot;
United States of America and Judge Dawson vs Irwin Schiff
Prosecutor: "Objection! Irrelevant!"
Judge Dawson: "Sustained!"
Irwin Schiff: "The income tax law is irrelevant?"
Judge Dawson: "I will not allow the law in my courtroom!"
Irwin Schiff: "But the Supreme Court said in the Cheek decision . . ."
Judge Dawson: "Irrevelant! Denied!"
Irwin Schiff: "The Supreme Court is irrelevant?"
Judge Dawson: "Irrevelant! Denied!"
http://irwinschiff.blogspot.com/2005_10_02_archive.html
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This certainly explains a lot;
http://irwinschiff.blogspot.com/2005_10_02_archive.html
Ya because they do not give a fuck.
They have convinced our neighbors to be mercenaries in exchange for green paper.
All the while believing that they are doing the right thing.
Good news though... they eat junk and will probably be sterile in a couple generations.
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Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
In God we trust; all others must pay cash.
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"KDeep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out."
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Science has explained nothing; the more we know the more fantastic the world becomes and the profounder the surrounding darkness.
Aldous Huxley
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"Look, you fools, you're in danger! Can't you see?! They're after you! They're after all of us! Our wives, our children, everyone! THEY'RE HERE, ALREADY! YOU'RE NEXT!" from the film "Invasion of the Body-Snatchers".
"So close — the infinitesimal and the infinite. But suddenly, I knew they were really the two ends of the same concept. The unbelievably small and the unbelievably vast eventually meet — like the closing of a gigantic circle. I looked up, as if somehow I would grasp the heavens. The universe, worlds beyond number, God's silver tapestry spread across the night." from the film"The Incredible Shrinking Man".
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There's only one way to have a happy marriage and when I figure it out I'll get get married again.
- Clint Eastwood -
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Why would anyone want to ruin a good relationship with the institution of marriage?
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Why would anyone want to ruin a good relationship with the institution of marriage?
What, by getting married? LOL
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Yes ,I have been with my lady for about 5 years and she has been asking about marriage, and I tell her half jokingly why would you want to ruin a good relationship with marriage. :)
We didn't get married after our first child because we like having our babies on her mothers insurance. But now that the universal health care bill went into effect the insurance company has to cover her birthing an prenatal cost for the next 4 years regardless of her marital situate, pretty much giving us the green light to marry.
But now she is 8 months pregnant with our 4th and she wants to get married sometime next month, either before or after the child is born, so I am being set up and am still not wanting to go through the ceremony out of some superstition that marriage does somehow change the relationship.
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Glad it's you..... Just kidding.
I wish you all the best and I'm sure you will do the best thing.
Marriage is not so bad. It's a good place to learn about yourself. But that's another thread.
However one parting quote on the subject of marriage...
"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free......"
Sort of a cheap shot and there are lots of replies for that mouldy oldie LOL
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"If a woman respects what you do, what you represent, how you speak, how you carry yourself. You don't have to be overly macho. You don't have to be overly complementary. Gain her respect. Treating her as an equal. Don't bullshit her. Treat her as a human being. Treat her as you would treat yourself. As soon as you have that respect from her, she'll treat you with the same respect that you show. Then, you fuck the shit out of her." -John Holmes
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"The internet is full of bullshit quotes that are simply false and probably didn't happen." George Washington
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"I cannot tell a lie" George Washington
If George said it it must be true
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"The internet is full of bullshit quotes that are simply false and probably didn't happen." George Washington
LOL
"I cannot tell a lie" George Washington
If George said it it must be true
Double LOL
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Nassim Taleb on the "Everything in Moderation" Fallacy and the Hidden Cancer of Debt:
> I always remember my father's injunction that in medio stat virtus, 'virtue lies in moderation.' Well, for a long time that was the ideal; mediocrity, in that sense, was even deemed golden. All-embracing mediocrity.
> Debt comes as a product of overconfidence. The more confident you are, the less it makes sense ... to issue equity and dilute your profits and the more it makes sense to borrow. The problem ... is that we humans cannot be trusted with knowledge because we tend to be overconfident ... and that's sort of the message of the Black Swan.
[T]he religions ... Judaism, the Ecclesiastes, [don't] like debt. ... Christianity early on did not like debt, and Islam banned debt. It's not without a reason and then I looked and I realized that you had ... turmoil coming from debt from Babylonian times.
The Romans had problems with debt and ... a lot of wars caused by debt. So debt was not necessarily a good thing. Now people say "Well, in moderation ...," but we don't know what moderation means. If you ... asked someone in Lehman brothers ... two years ago they would have said "Oh, we have a moderate level of debt." We don't know what it means. So we have to watch out. Debt is something that is very toxic and can hit you very quickly.
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So much of what we call management consists in making it difficult people to work
Peter Drucker
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In everyone's life at some time, our inner fire goes out.
It is then burst into flames by an encounter with another human being.
We should be thankful for those people who rekindle the human spirit.
Albert Schweitzer
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"We all seek our own existence out to assure our existence against nullification or meaninglessness
Man cannot stand a meaningless life."
Carl Jung said this at the end of an interview in responce to a question regarding his thoughts about the emergence of collectivism.
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"Follow your bliss." - Joseph Campbell
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“You rogues, do you want to live for ever?”
Frederick The Great(said to his soldiers who were retreating after being beaten by Austria-Hungary).
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Understand man is not a machine he needs a surface and a purpose and a reason for being.
..JMT
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It's a "Fight Club" kinda day:
"I am Jack's smirking revenge."
and
"All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I fuck like you wanna fuck, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not."
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The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words.
Philip K. Dick
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"More means worse" - Kingsley Amis
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I may have faults, but being wrong ain't one of them.
-Jimmy Hoffa
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I have found the best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it.
-Harry Truman
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Work is more fun than fun.
- Noel Coward
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You can observe a lot just by watching.
- Yogi Berra
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You can observe a lot just by watching.
- Yogi Berra
I love it.
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Yogi Berra was nuts ;D
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did."
"It ain't the heat, it's the humility."
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded"
"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours."
"He hits from both sides of the plate. He's amphibious."
"I just want to thank everyone who made this day necessary."
"I never blame myself when I'm not hitting. I just blame the bat and if it keeps up, I change bats. After all, if I know it isn't my fault that I'm not hitting, how can I get mad at myself?"
When a waiter asked Yogi Berra if he wanted his pizza cut into four or eight pieces.
He said something like...
"I'll take four, I am not hungry enough for eight."
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Yogi Berra was nuts ;D
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did."
"It ain't the heat, it's the humility."
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded"
"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours."
"He hits from both sides of the plate. He's amphibious."
"I just want to thank everyone who made this day necessary."
"I never blame myself when I'm not hitting. I just blame the bat and if it keeps up, I change bats. After all, if I know it isn't my fault that I'm not hitting, how can I get mad at myself?"
When a waiter asked Yogi Berra if he wanted his pizza cut into four or eight pieces.
He said something like...
"I'll take four, I am not hungry enough for eight."
ExCeLlEnT
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'Whatever happened to Tannu Tuva?' -Richard Feynman
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dh5Pgmx2WCsY&sa=U&ei=tMdmTYLxJYG78gagvP2YCw&ved=0CBYQtwIwAg&sig2=UvlyPfCOE_E8AAoEbJBnKA&usg=AFQjCNGNbkzVuBxt-I_nm6390vmnmiDbTQ
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from the raw paleo bodybuilder's blog:
To be completely honest, the longest lived individuals are not the raw foodists, not the vegans or vegetarians, not the low carbers…they’re the ones that enjoy the hell out of life. I just read an interview with some 110 year old guy and when they asked him what his secret was, he said, "whisky and wild women." I might be going about this all wrong. - Paul Lundkvist
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We do not so much look at things as overlook them.
- Zen proverb
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Faith is the knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof.
-Kahlil Gibran
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from the raw paleo bodybuilder's blog:
To be completely honest, the longest lived individuals are not the raw foodists, not the vegans or vegetarians, not the low carbers…they’re the ones that enjoy the hell out of life. I just read an interview with some 110 year old guy and when they asked him what his secret was, he said, "whisky and wild women." I might be going about this all wrong. - Paul Lundkvist
Haha you read his blog too :D
He has a diary of around 2 years of his life there
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from the raw paleo bodybuilder's blog:
To be completely honest, the longest lived individuals are not the raw foodists, not the vegans or vegetarians, not the low carbers…they’re the ones that enjoy the hell out of life. I just read an interview with some 110 year old guy and when they asked him what his secret was, he said, "whisky and wild women." I might be going about this all wrong. - Paul Lundkvist
Maybe the reason he was so happy, and able to enjoy the whisky and wild women was because he was healthy...
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Thanks to Miles for sharing this gem in another thread. It's so good, it deserves to be here as well.
"You're wrong about the hard-on about Denise Minger since I was a raw vegan when I first read her, and raw vegans can't get hard-ons."
-Erim Bilgin.
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Maybe the reason he was so happy, and able to enjoy the whisky and wild women was because he was healthy...
check out Mr Chabelo
http://www.metropolistv.nl/en/search/a-102-year-old-casanova-in-nicaragua
"You're wrong about the hard-on about Denise Minger since I was a raw vegan when I first read her, and raw vegans can't get hard-ons."
-Erim Bilgin.
good one
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(Gordie Howe was a famous Canadian Hockey player in days gone by when men were men ;D and hockey players didn't wear helmets) (a cup is a male genitalia protector) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Howe
Gordie Howe's response to the question
"Why did players always wear a cup, but not always a helmet ?"
"You can always get someone to do your thinking for you."
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"Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." Hassan i Sabbah, leader of the Assasins sect in the Middle-East.
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"Those who deem themselves beyond good and evil are usually the worst tormentors of mankind, because they are so twisted with the pain and fear of their own sickness"
Carl Jung from, Christ a symbol of self
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"Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." Hassan i Sabbah, leader of the Assasins sect in the Middle-East.
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hashashin.html (http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hashashin.html)
They made a video game about this group, its pretty bad ass.
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“Beware of meat twice boil'd, & an old foe reconcil'd.”
Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)’ Poor Richard's Almanac’
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I tell you, every generation breeds a more rabbity generation, with India rubber tubing for guts and tin legs and tin faces. Tin people! It's all a steady sort of bolshevism just killing off the human thing, and worshipping the mechanical thing. Money, money, money! All the modern lot get their real kick out of killing the old human feeling out of man, making mincemeat of the old Adam and the old Eve. They're all alike. The world is all alike: kill off the human reality, a quid for every foreskin, two quid for each pair of balls. What is cunt but machine-fucking!--It's all alike. Pay 'em money to cut off the world's cock. Pay money, money, money to them that will take spunk out of mankind, and leave 'em all little twiddling machines.' --from Lady Chatterley's Lover by D. H. Lawrence, 1928
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"God does not play dice." --Einstein
"God is the dice." --unknown
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"God is the die." --unknown person who can speak English.
Or
"God are the dice." --person considering God as plurality rather than unity
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Quoted by magnetic:
"God is the die." --unknown person who can speak English.
If anyone cares, "God is the dice" is correct gramatically (the dice are a metaphorical representation of chance, but even if they were real, one God could be composed of, or inhabit, a pair of dice) and even if it weren't I would use it anyway, because it sounds better. ;D Although "God is the die" sounds interestingly like "God is death." Hmmm, I still think I'll take God as chance over God as death. ;D
"God are the dice." --person considering God as plurality rather than unity
For that case I think you mean "The Gods are the dice."
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If everyone knew everything then nobody would need anybody.
Ignorance rules the world.
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If anyone cares, "God is the dice" is correct gramatically (the dice are a metaphorical representation of chance, but even if they were real, one God could be composed of, or inhabit, a pair of dice) and even if it weren't I would use it anyway, because it sounds better. ;D Although "God is the die" sounds interestingly like "God is death." Hmmm, I still think I'll take God as chance over God as death. ;D
For that case I think you mean "The Gods are the dice."
Not for a Catholic.
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Not for a Catholic.
That's a good lad, but haven't you heard of the Elohim yet? Never mind, it's a long story. ;)
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"I don’t think anybody’s saying Homo erectus were too dumb to know how to make fire—but they are saying they were cold adapted so they didn’t need it." --K. Kris Hirst, Lower Paleolithic Controlled Use of Fire? Not so much (http://archaeology.about.com/b/2011/03/16/lower-paleolithic-controlled-use-of-fire-not-so-much.htm), March 16, 2011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FG6J6RPB9U&feature=feedu
"Ireland's king of comedy Dara O'Briain reveals how a little bit of bacteria isn't necessarily a bad thing for children."
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We were tempered in raw shit", George Carlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnmMNdiCz_s&feature=fvwrel
He was brilliant ,
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That George Carlin Video was hilarious. We need a rawpalaeo humour section for this sort of thing.
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A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
John Locke
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A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
John Locke
A sound mind in a sound body?
My english suck I dont get it can you explain it lol sorry but I have to understand it or I get mad -\
Sound?
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A different meaning of the word 'sound' is if something is strong, no problems with it.
So a healthy body and mind with no problems.
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so its like strong mind in a strong body ya?
thanks ;D
healthy mind in healthy body
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"Taxes are what we pay for civilized society" --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
We also pay with our health and well being. Is the price worth it?
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Taxes are the price we pay to avoid being kidnapped or murdered
...until the masses either wake up or die off.
Thanks to the internet for catalyzing the former, medical community for catalyzing the latter.
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The human race is governed by it's imagination
Napoleon
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"The acceptance of death gives you more of a stake in life, in living life happily, as it should be lived. Living for the moment." - Sting
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Haven’t read all yet so I apologise if one of the following is already there.
“Reality is merely an illusion albeit a very persistent one.” Einstein
“The first thing we should do is kill all lawyers.” Shakespeare
“Bad people do bad things all the time but to make good people do bad things you need religion for that” forget who but read it in R. Dawkins The god delusion
"You must understand that it is not only possible, but highly desirable, to do several things simultaneously; thus, it happened that I was operating an international airline, importing thousands of live wild animals, producing films for television and building exercise machines all at the same time. In my opinion, many of our current problems are direct results of specialization; which is why the scientific community has now degenerated to the point of being a sick joke." Arthur Jones
"A long list of people all over the world have followed a pattern that seems to be stamped into the genes of many people: IGNORE, RIDICULE, ATTACK, COPY, STEAL." Arthur Jones
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” H. L. Mencken
“All that is necessary for bad man to do bad thing is for good man to do nothing”
And of course my signature
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The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible.
A. Einstein
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"A happy man is too satisfied with the present to dwell too much on the future."
A. Einstein
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"A living complex is necessarily subservient to laws of balance, selection, rejection, preference, and exchange. The need to survive at the expense of the outside world requires an economic scenario, even on the level of microscopic entities. It is, therefore, hardly surprising, that the very same laws of economy apply whether one is dealing with a country, an individual, or a simple cell." GCB
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"A happy man is too satisfied with the present to dwell too much on the future."
A. Einstein
BAWWWWW..... This is way too true... :( :( :(
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Yes, there's a tribe in the Amazon that has no concept of long-term future or past. Moderners call them the Pirahã (they call themselves the Hi'aiti'ihi, which translates to "the straight ones" and is quite similar to the most common name that indigenous peoples have for themselves--"the real people"). They have no history or myths (including no creation story) and no plans and they live almost totally in the present (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXegoZrxcVk). They are reportedly very happy people. That's not surprising given that several religions and many self help gurus teach that part of the secret of happiness is living as much as feasible in the present. These are a people who always live in the present. One Christian missionary, Daniel Everett, realized that the Pirahã already possessed the happiness and tranquility that he told them Jesus could give them. He was so impressed by that and certain fascinating, incisive things that they said which innocently challenged his beliefs that he gave up his faith and as a result lost his family, as his missionary wife would not accept a nonChristian husband.
I saw one of the Pirahã interviewed and he did appear very happy--smiling and chuckling quite a bit. Even more so than the traditional Bushmen I've seen interviewed, who also seem to smile and chuckle a good deal (not so much the ones in cramped reservation villages, from the little I've seen).
"They're the ultimate empiricists." --Daniel Everett on the Pirahã
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Wow Thanks Phil, They have it figured out. Appreciate the link. You have restored my faith.
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You're welcome raw-al.
"The way you walked was thorny through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over. Now you will find peace for eternity." --Maleva in The Wolf Man, 1941
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@chillezzz Nice man!
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"No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training… What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.” – Socrates
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"No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training… What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.” – Socrates
;D ;D Wise man! didn't he also say: "let food be your medicine"
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"I have sometimes amused myself by endeavoring to fancy what would be the fate of any individual gifted, or rather accursed, with an intellect very far superior to that of his race. Of course, he would not be conscious of his superiority nor could he help manifesting his consciousness.
Thus, he would make himself enemies at all points. And since his opinions and speculations would likely differ from those of all mankind that he would be considered a madman is evident.
How horribly painful such a condition! Hell could invent no greater torture than that of being charged with abnormal weakness on account of being abnormally strong."
the hunting of the slan
Edgar Allan Poe
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;D ;D Wise man! didn't he also say: "let food be your medicine"
"Let food be thy medicine"
"Extreme remedies are very appropriate for extreme diseases."
"It is more important to know what sort of person has a disease than to know what sort of disease a person has."
"Make a habit of two things: to help; or at least to do no harm."
"Many admire, few know"
"Walking is man's best medicine"
-Hippocrates
Googled the quotes, not sure of authenticity.
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"I have sometimes amused myself by endeavoring to fancy what would be the fate of any individual gifted, or rather accursed, with an intellect very far superior to that of his race. Of course, he would not be conscious of his superiority nor could he help manifesting his consciousness.
Thus, he would make himself enemies at all points. And since his opinions and speculations would likely differ from those of all mankind that he would be considered a madman is evident.
How horribly painful such a condition! Hell could invent no greater torture than that of being charged with abnormal weakness on account of being abnormally strong."
the hunting of the slan
Edgar Allan Poe
huge like
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"Somewhere along the line, we seem to have confused comfort with happiness. "
-Dean Karnazes
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Aye, short term comfort leads to long term distress.
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"Somewhere along the line, we seem to have confused comfort with happiness. "
-Dean Karnazes
Very good
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The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. - Mark Twain
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People are actually hoping and striving for their damnation:
<<People have often commented, 'where are all the humans', well in this abstract interpretation, the robots and machine like beings are us, it's what we have evolved to become, bringing mechanics into our organic structure.
This might seem radical, but I think it's how we are destined to be. The future is always filled with stories of 'robots controlling mankind', but [in fact] mankind [will] itself become robotic.>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8EWbJ0w68U
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"If you only have the milk of three yaks, don't live like you have the milk of four." -Genghis Kahn (Chenggis Haan)
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People are actually hoping and striving for their damnation:
I don't think it has to be damnation. Of course, I'm not an early adopter of new technology. I'd rather other people use it first, and work out all the bugs. I assume that my strategy will continue to work well into the times when people are getting various mechanical implants of many types.
Think about it--landline phones were new and untested 120 years ago. There were probably people calling them damnation, etc. back then. Would you really include them under the umbrella of "damnation" now? I'm not saying that they were not, in some way, damnation. I'm just saying that the kinks have been worked out, and now it's a trustworthy, reliable technology, and it's actually going away soon, because it's mostly outmoded. Isn't it kind of hard for something outmoded to be "damnation"? And won't the various implants of the future, at some point, become outmoded? Would they, at that point, still be "damnation", to the people of that time?
Seriously, do you really think that technology brings only misery? I agree that it brings some misery...but, when the kinks get worked out, it can be a wonderful thing.
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I'll don't wish to be impolite but I probably should not respond here, as this thread is for quotes rather than debate. I only added my commentary to the quote above because I didn't want people to think that I agreed with the idea of humans striving to become robots as being a utopian ideal.
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"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt
should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered
and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed,
lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead
of living on public assistance."
- Cicero , 55 BC
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"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt
should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered
and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed,
lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead
of living on public assistance."
- Cicero , 55 BC
MY MIND = BLOWN!
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"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt
should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered
and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed,
lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead
of living on public assistance."
- Cicero , 55 BC
History repeats itself....
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That Cicero quote seemed too modern to have been from Roman times and the talk of "assistance to foreign lands" seemed out of place, since the Romans believed that plundering foreign lands was perfectly OK, as did most or all governments in that time, and plundering Gallic gold was how Julius Caesar refilled the treasury in that era (as recounted in Terry Jones' Barbarians), not via cutting off "assistance to foreign lands."
So I Googled it and quickly found this:
In a letter to The Chicago Tribune (20 April 1971), John H. Collins, Professor of History at Northern Illinois University, reported that the following attribution to Cicero,
Quote:
The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. The mobs should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence.
actually originated in A Pillar of Iron (1965), Taylor Caldwell's fictionalized account of the life of the senator. (In fact, Collins noted that it was on page 483 of the edition he had in hand.) http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=28532
The Internet is full of such misattributions, so be wary of quotes provided on the Internet without original sources. It is particularly common for people to attribute all sorts of quotes to famous oraters, thinkers, and religious and political leaders like Cicero, Confucious, Arthur Schopenhauer, Mohandis Gandhi, Shakespeare and others that they never said, so be especially wary when quotes are attributed to people that are often cited, or to famous works like the Bible.
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"We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude." -Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson (d.1826) wrote many great anti-government debt quotations... yes, the same Thomas Jefferson who, in his personal life, was notorious for excessive spending and died deep in debt.
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PP has a point. Thanks for correcting this piece, it did sound suspicious, but it's something I would love to believe in given that I'm a fan of Cicero. I used to also believe in some urban legends like that Arizona/jet-car one. Fortunately, snopes.com was a useful way to debunk/check these ideas.
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Thanks PP. We all get these things in emails and are too lazy to check.
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You're welcome folks. Yes, emails are full of misquotes and urban legends too.
I found this recent quote on the subject:
"This is a problem that is going to go live really soon."
("Harvard professor and prolific author Niall Ferguson opened the 2010 Aspen Ideas Festival Monday with a stark warning about the increasing prospect of the American "empire" suddenly collapsing due to the country's rising debt level.") Roman empire redux: Debt-bloated U.S. at risk of sudden collapse, Harvard historian says, July 16, 2010, http://www.blanchardonline.com/investing-news-blog/econ.php?article=794
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"When a pickpocket sees a Saint, all he sees are pockets"
Author unknown (by me ;D)
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Does anyone know who this quote is attributed to ???
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Google says it is Socrates quote but... it is only Google..
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Right on!
No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.
Socrates (469 - 399 BC)
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“Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.”
Archimedes
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Quote(s) of the day:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdfWdIBfE8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdfWdIBfE8#ws)
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Here's some righteous quotage for all (who can name the source without google?):
CHAPTER 4
1 In the light of the fire that had been started by the Shuteye Train,
2 The punks saw musicians who knew nothing about music,
3 Lyricists who knew nothing about words,
4 Revolutionaries who knew nothing about ideas,
5 And not much else.
6 In the glow of the first light they had ever seen,
7 They wondered why they didn't know anything,
8 And why it had never seemed important before,
9 Although they could see that it was important,
10 Because it is obviously an important discovery when you discover you are a nobody,
11 Who knows nothing,
12 And don't even know why.
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That's easy, the Tao Te Ching.
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It's that bible with all the rock'n'roll references - never read the whole thing, but the names of the "books" are fascinating (Psayings, Psongs, I think Waylon is one, etc). The text is too-oo-oo deep for my pretty li'l head.
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It's from one of the greatest books of the 2oth century...."The Boomer Bible".
Here's one my brother just sent:
"May those who accept their fate find happiness. Those who defy it, glory."
I am SOOOO amped.........!!!!
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Does anyone know who this quote is attributed to ???
Tuesday, October 11, 2011
"No Citizen Has The Right..."
The below quote...
"No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training... what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable."
... makes the rounds on the internet about every 6 months. People say it's Socrates, and then they all agree how much the Greeks knew and the value of ancient wisdom, and how people should WANT to be virtuous and squat four plates like us, and make supportive noises towards each other.
Few problems with this, of course (apart from the standard glowing self-righteousness that leaks from people who talk about fitness to each other on the internet):
1) It's probably paraphrased. I can't find a source for the original text.
2) Socrates didn't write anything. His job was walking around annoying people - I have always been very jealous of it. His students are responsible for everything we know about him. So, for completeness sake, this is "Xenophon, attributed to Socrates". It ain't just quibbling. Xenophon's Socrates is not identical to Plato's Socrates. And they were pretty much the only two who wrote about him in any detail.
3) It isn't even the best bit of the passage. Depending on the translation, I have highlighted the bits that I think really read well.
http://thepsychophysiologist.blogspot.com/2011/10/no-citizen-has-right.html (http://thepsychophysiologist.blogspot.com/2011/10/no-citizen-has-right.html)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdfWdIBfE8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdfWdIBfE8#ws)How ironic that the movie version of "Tyler Durden" is a proponent of "noble savagery".
The Era of Entanglement: Humanity Is 'Back to the Jungle' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxb3D9Jiuyw#ws)
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Excellent quote!
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It should be the subtitle of the site.
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"So even if you move, don't forget your roots." --Kali Blaxx
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"We seem to live in an arrogant age. In fact the idea that there is not much to learn from the past is rather disturbing. In some ways we might say we do know more, but we seem to have forgotten some things that they knew in the past. You could say we still live in a perspective nightmare. The single point of view will always restrict our perceptions. There seems to me a great big beautiful world out there and we are hemmed in. Don't you want to get out to see a bigger space, a bigger picture? I think we do. Exciting times could be ahead." --David Hockney, "David Hockney's Secret Knowledge"
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Sign on wall and camera
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"Hacker: Don't tell me about the press, I know exactly who reads the papers: the Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; the Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; the Times is read by people who actually do run the country; the Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; the Financial Times is read by people who own the country; the Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country; and The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?
Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits."
taken from Yes Prime Minister TV series.(sorry, PP, I checked and it was yes prime minister)
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I like intense.
"Mercy for the guilty is treason to the innocent"
from a fantasy novel by Terri Goodkind, I used to be a real push over, I'm much darker now, but I like it better. - >D
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"What other people think of you is none of your business."
"Don't take yourself so serious. No one else does."
"Growing old beats the alternative--dying young."
"If a relationship has to be a secret, you shouldn't be in it."
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Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog it is too dark to read.
Groucho Marx
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"Mercy for the guilty is treason to the innocent"
I like that a lot!
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"The only thing that I can say with any real confidence is that things will get a lot worse than they now are, hard as that may be to imagine. Once the government and its "experts" get their hands on the reins of power, as they now have, you can be damned sure that anything of value that now exists will soon be destroyed. Read your history and then don't be surprised when you see it repeating itself."
Arthur Jones
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“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts”-Richard Feynman
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“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts”-Richard Feynman
Hehe
“If you have a problem that you cannot solve, seek out the most highly recognized expert in that field and carefully listen to his suggested solution, and then do exactly the opposite. And while this will not always solve your problem it will, at least, save you some time; will save the time that you might have wasted trying his suggestions, which will almost invariably be wrong.”
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"The meek shall inherit the earth, the bold shall inherit the stars ". No idea who came up with this quotation.
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George Carlin - Colonizing Deep Space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TX3pPOuIXc#)
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"The meek shall inherit the earth the bold shall inherit the stars ". No idea who came up with this quotation.
That's a fact.
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”Life is not, as they say, just one damned thing after another, instead, it is the same damned things over and over.” W.C. Fields
@PP
George Carlin is awesome!
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'There ain't no such thing as a sanity claus'
Groucho Marx
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"If you aren’t eating liver and/or egg yolks, you’re going to be deficient in choline. Other sources, except for maybe beef cube steak , pale in comparison." ~ Mark Sisson
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Change is inevitable - except from a vending machine.
George Carlin
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I wanted to change the world, but
I found that the only thing one can be sure of changing is oneself
Aldous Huxley
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I'm not saying that I agree with this or not - it's just that Personman posted this today and I thought it just had to be copied and pasted as the "big mouthful" of the day on the board somewhere:
"The concept of a lucifer, a man-god type superman(ubermensch) is all well and good so long as it doesn't lead to a neo-feudalism that throws the orbit of the social world into chaos and famine and nuclear holocaust so the superclass can take over from the ashes...."
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"The concept of a lucifer, a man-god type superman(ubermensch) is all well and good so long as it doesn't lead to a neo-feudalism that throws the orbit of the social world into chaos and famine and nuclear holocaust so the superclass can take over from the ashes...."
Personally, I always loved all those SF stories in which a new breed of mutants would rise up out of the ashes of a nuclear fire - I even liked those future war scenes in the Terminator movies - but then I'm a hopeless romantic:-
The Terminator: James Cameron's Future War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nq-r7QWW0#noexternalembed-ws)
Philip K Dick in a side-note to his story "The Golden Man", suggested that mutants would exterminate us in the end. The irony is that that very SF story had the humans trying to exterminate the mutants rather than the other way round, with the ultimate super-mutant not needing to wipe out the humans since he has 2 abilities that make him immune to such extermination efforts, the ability to predict the future and the ability to seduce any human woman with ease. That's the sad truth, that the mindless Mafia of the Mediocre among humanity are terrified of the notion of something better than them coming along.
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Somebody said that it couldn't be done,
But he with a chuckle replied
That "maybe it couldn't," but he would be one
Who wouldn't say so till he'd tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn't be done, and he did it.
Somebody scoffed: "Oh, you'll never do that;
At least no one ever has done it";
But he took off his coat and he took off his hat,
And the first thing we knew he'd begun it.
With a lift of his chin and a bit of a grin,
Without any doubting or quiddit,
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn't be done, and he did it.
There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
There are thousands to prophesy failure;
There are thousands to point out to you, one by one,
The dangers that wait to assail you.
But just buckle in with a bit of a grin,
Just take off your coat and go to it;
Just start to sing as you tackle the thing
That "cannot be done," and you'll do it.
Edgar Guest
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"If you spend enough time around alternative health, the Conspiracy-Theory Community, etc., you'll start to realize that ALL of the gurus are either lying or dead wrong about at least some things. Some gurus are lying about almost everything. Some have it nearly ALL correct. None of them has the whole truth, though. " Cherimoya-Kid
The above is something I've been trying to tell people for many years, the notion that since it is impossible for a human being to be 100% perfect, that therefore one must borrow ideas from several different gurus and also borrow from one's own experience. My own health-recovery only occurred after I stopped believing in gurus and started altering their various prescriptions and experimenting on my own. One size does not fit all.
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Amen to that.
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The thing about alternative medicine is that it is so loosey - goosey, and at the risk of sounding conspiracy theorish, modern allopathy is pretty darned loosey - goosey.
As you say none of them have it dead on (NPI) because............ none of them make money off of you if you are not sick.
Problem with alternative medicine people is they don't band together and form a union like their Allopathic brothers have had going since the 1850s with the AMA American Medical Association.
They make little associations but they don't band together and make one 'big bejeesely one' to put Allopathy in it's place.
Doctors and big Pharma work very hard to prevent this from occurring and thus sites like QuackWatch continue the constant battle of calling everyone and everything else 'Quacks'.
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Maybe a decade ago or so I read a statistic that 75% of Americans had used "alternative" medicine. How many people do you know who have never tried an herb, gone to a chiropractor or acupuncturist, taken a supplement etc.
Big Pharma must hate that.
Just like the Big Milk dudes shake when a raw dairy is really successful and work to shut it down - based on nothing at all so will Big Pharma will close down as many of it's competitors as it can and because they already have an immense power and financial structure in place any new conglomerate of alternative practitioners would be a massive target. The professional of "naturopath" is no longer going to be according to my neighbor who has been studying to be one for years. They are going after that one - partly because it was such a direct competitor to MD and a well-accepted and rapidly growing profession. She won't legally be able to call herself a naturopath.
Alternative therapies are more like an underground movement in the face of an autocracy.
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The difficulty with it all has multiple parts:
1. Some alternative therapies are pretty much useless. Some are actually dangerous. Some are life-saving. Almost nobody is truly an expert on all of them. So you end up having to do your own research, which generally takes a lot of time and energy.
2. Plenty of allopathic treatments work, but have unpleasant side effects. Also, spending time in hospitals is a good way to pick up a dangerous infection, and/or slow your healing process by eating hospital food.
3. There are plenty of people on both sides of the debate acting partially or entirely out of the profit motive. Therefore, their motivation to tell the whole truth is minimal.
And nobody tells you this stuff. It's a damn hassle having to figure it all out.
Yay, America. Land of the Free.
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The difficulty with it all has multiple parts:
1. Some alternative therapies are pretty much useless. Some are actually dangerous. Some are life-saving. Almost nobody is truly an expert on all of them. So you end up having to do your own research, which generally takes a lot of time and energy.
2. Plenty of allopathic treatments work, but have unpleasant side effects. Also, spending time in hospitals is a good way to pick up a dangerous infection, and/or slow your healing process by eating hospital food.
3. There are plenty of people on both sides of the debate acting partially or entirely out of the profit motive. Therefore, their motivation to tell the whole truth is minimal.
And nobody tells you this stuff. It's a damn hassle having to figure it all out.
Yay, America. Land of the Free.
Cherimoya_kid,
You have given no information whatsoever except your opinion which is overgeneralized, basically silly.
I know lots of people who have been cured by various alternative therapies. I also know way too many people who have died or been incapacitated by Allopathic methods. Both sides of the fence (and there is definitely a fence) are loosey-goosey as I said.
Deaths resulting from overmedication, errors in prescriptions, invasive testing procedures, surgeries, and hospitalizations (for instance, someone catches an infection while being hospitalized, and dies) are commonplace.
There was a study done in US hospitals in 1998, published in the JAMA indicates that over 100,000 Americans die from harmful reactions to medications. The deaths are not due to mistakes by doctors in prescribing drugs or by patients in using them. Rather, drug reactions occur because virtually all medications can have bad side effects in some people, even when taken in proper doses.
"We want to increase awareness that drugs have a toxic component" said Dr. Bruce Pomeranz, an author of the study and a professor of neuroscience at the University of Toronto. "It's not rare".
'Harrison's Principles Of Internal Medicine' mentions that a more severe "side" effect from drug-induced diseases - death - "in hospitalised patients varies from 2% to 12%" Note that each hospitalized person is given an average of 10 different drugs.
Mistakes in dosage may also contribute to drug iatogenesis. Null and colleagues cite a 2002 study showing that "20%" of hospital medications for patients had dosage mistakes. Nearly 40% of these errors were considered potentially harmful to the patient. In a typical 300-patient hospital the number per day were 40.
Simply put, the fourth leading cause of death in America, after cancer, heart disease and stroke, is reactions to "safe" over-the-counter drugs and "properly" prescribed prescription medicine.
Hospital infections - 1986 Colbin reported "the most rapidly spreading epidemic of the 20th century" citing "over 2 million infections a year" in American hospitals, that resulted in "60 to 80 thousand deaths". Data analyzed on July 23, 2002 by the Chicago Tribune from patient databases, court cases, 5810 hospitals and 75 federal and state agencies, found "103,000 cases of death due to hospital infections, 75% of which were preventable.
Colbin writes that an "estimated 2.5 million operations a year are performed without real medical need, resulting in some 12 thousand needless deaths" Statistics complied by Null and associates give comparative numbers 25 years apart for unnecessary surgeries.
- 1974: 2.4 million unnecessary surgeries performed annually resulting in 11,900 deaths.
- 2001: 7.5 million unnecessary surgical procedures resulting in 37,136 deaths.
Null et al. wrote "the total number of [yearly] iatrogenic deaths--- is 783,936. The conditions involved, - all occurring in hospitals, include adverse drug reactions, medical error (unspecified), bedsores, infection, malnutrition, useless procedures, and surgery related.
"We could have an even higher death rate by using [another statistician's differently calculated] 1997 medical and drug error rate of 3 million." The authors conclude, "it is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States"
A lot of what was mentioned here is quoted from Dr. Nenah Sylver, PhD's book "The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health" There was quotes embedded from studies done and article(s) from JAMA.
I highly recommend her book as it is one of the better of the many that exposes the soft underbelly of the AMA and medical practice in general in the US and various other countries. She gives an excellent history of how medicine evolved from ancient times in the east and west. Also she explains the evolution of the American Medical Association (AMA) 'union' (my addition to the title)
I have to guess that it must be worse in Europe as it is much easier to get into medical schools there. Some of my friends/relatives have gotten into medical schools there who could not get into Canadian medicals schools.
You have to go to third world countries (such as where GS lives) to get certain medical treatments because the FDA and FDA inspired allopathic medical community has managed to shut down their competitors.
Very few allopathic medical treatments work. They set you up for addictions generally.
The trouble is that the allopathic medical union has a lip-lock on government regulations so nobody else can regulate anything.
If you want to understand the state of health care in the US you have to study how it got to be the way it is. This requires reading history books.
I was blown away by reading a book written by an American surgeon, that told of how the WHO contacted him to study why so many people died from surgery in the world. The numbers were stunning, in first world countries. These ego-maniac surgeons were so conceited, arrogant and stupid that they refused even the simplest thing to be used by surgeons. A checklist. As a pilot this blew me away. These clowns refuse(d) to use a checklist to verify prior to during and post operations that things were/are being done correctly.
Basically these clowns (all doctors) get out of medical school and they have a Carte Blanche for the rest of their lives to work with no further testing or recertification.
Geezus even a welder has to be recertified periodically. Pilots annually.
Reminds me of a saying we learned at school, practice doesn't make perfect, it makes permanent.
As the cop used to say on that TV show so long ago...
"Just the facts Ma'am ('cherimoya_kid', Tyler),
just the facts"
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“If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny. Thomas Jefferson.
We don't need gurus we need Sheppard's to guide the uninitiated through the early phases of debunking all that is incorrect in both the alternative and establishment medicine. Certainly there is much that we can agree on when it comes to exposing quackery on all sides of all issues.
Still what is one to do when in possession of such knowledge, and are experienced in transformative healing? Why shouldn't that person lead the charge to shine a light on the truths that we can agree upon. So what if they would be totally ignored by the mainstream like Bechamp or Jean-Baptiste Lamarck had been in their time, still I say nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. The Raw Paleo diet is a legitimate answer to many of the problems that cant be solved by traditional or alternative medicine.
Now is the time to overturn the established view of what makes for good health and good lives. Who among us has what it takes to take human understanding to the next level? Who will be a good Shepard?
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Wise words ST.
Reality is when we are young we tend to waste our health. Women waste it on trying to appear beautiful, men on trying to be heroes. (Generally)
Then we get older and start to feel the pain of our earlier decisions. That is when the journey begins. Some find the cures for their ills early some never look.
If a Doctor of whatever flavour is asked by people to pull them back from the brink (self-created) and he is a good person he will do his best. If his methods are not appropriate then the person suffers, but is that the Doctor's fault ??? The Doctor did not make them sick in the first place. It is buyer beware.
I see lots of people lining up for Allopathic care. That is their choice. None of my business. I also see people lining up to buy cheap foods, junk foods, cool foods, food fads, restaurants, whatever, that is their choice. I say enjoy yourself.
One day they will see the lack of wisdom and maybe do something about it.
But whatever they decide is their business. The problem I have is when people do what Thomas Jefferson complains about in your post Sabertooth.
Basically a group of crooks in the medical and food business have gotten themselves in charge of our food/medicine supply
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I am all about maintaining the freedom of choice which includes the free expression of information. There were always quacks and shysters throughout history but if one was wise and well in tune with their own basic needs then they at least (generally speaking) have the capability of making healthy choices.
Nowadays the information is so highly suspect and there is a huge federal bureaucracy in control of food and drug administration. There is less and less room for individual choice. Most people are forced to choose food from a store shelf. Food that's origin is often a complete mystery. Just as they are forced to chose medical care from an establishment that is has questionable conflicts of interest.
The Food and Medical establishment poses as the good shepard and those among their ranks truly believe that they are protecting the peoples best interest. The problem is that you cant save people from their own ignorance. When you try you only enable more ignorance.
People must have the right to do the wrong thing. It's how we learn. The problem with the current situation is that individuals no longer are capable of correcting the imbalances within their own environment, because they have no personal responsibility for it. In Jefferson's day, you could get organic foods and eat them in whatever variety or preparation you could fashion. People could thrive or fail due to their own decisions, that's the price of freedom.
But in today's world you have a secretive group making very reckless decisions on how much pesticide is allowable in our foods. What chemical fertilizers are deemed safe. Lets GMO everything. The grain heavy food pyramid. I could go on all day about the stupidity inherent in the medical establishments recommendations. These decisions are far too controversial and insane for anyone to be able to make with a clean conscience, and yet these are the decisions that have been made for the majority of those in our modern world, by the ones Thomas Jefferson warned us against.
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"Choose a bride with thick legs, she will make you happy." - ancient wisdom from the Great Khan, Ghenghis (Chinggis Khaan), per the movie, "Mongol."
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"Choose a bride with thick legs, she will make you happy." - ancient wisdom from the Great Khan, Ghenghis (Chinggis Khaan), per the movie, "Mongol."
Sturdy legs
BTW I tried that. Maybe it made him happy but it didn't make me 'appy. : )
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Hey Al - I guess the quote would be better as:
Choose a bride with thick legs (but not a thick skull), and she will make you happy.
hee hee
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Or if she's as strong as you, keep a shillelagh handy in case she gets too out of order. ;)
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I don't know but I've been told big legged woman ain't got no soul.
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"I don't want no woman with no skinny legs." - Joe Tex band member, "Skinny Legs and All"
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"[W]e run the farm like a business instead of a welfare recipient and we adhere to historically-validated patterns. For example, instead of buying petroleum fertilizer, we self-generate fertilizer with our own carbon and manures through large scale composting, which we turn with pigs (pigaerators) rather than machinery. Letting the animals do the work takes the capital-intensive depreciable infrastructure out of the equation and creates profitability that is size-neutral." - Joel Salatin, http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/paleo-conservative-big-ag-big-government-diet/534766 (http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/paleo-conservative-big-ag-big-government-diet/534766)
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Or if she's as strong as you, keep a shillelagh handy in case she gets too out of order. ;)
The problem would be that I am frequently with a machete to cut open coconuts, a pitch fork in the garden and my essential oils and other potions in the eyes could probably do a good deal of damage. Therefore a woman with sturdy legs needs a man that is kind and is intelligent enough not to attack with a little stick(lame weapons really compared to what a strong woman could do - think about that while you're sleeping!) - and if she isn't a total thick skulled ninny she likely won't go around hitting her kind man who's smart enough to simply ask her for what he wants. She'll just do what he wants.
The stronger the woman - the more the man can get.......... if he's smart.
Therefore, I would add to the proverb: A woman with sturdy legs should choose a man with a sturdy mind and she will be happy. ;)
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Hey this sounds like a great topic for someone to study.....
The overall effectiveness and efficacy of sturdy legged women in marital relations.
Or maybe...
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, (sturdy legged woman)
And by opposing end them? To die in one's sleep; (by the outrageous acts of a sturdy legged woman)
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, (by a sturdy legged woman that has been shillelaghed)
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Hey Al - I guess the quote would be better as:
Choose a bride with thick legs (but not a thick skull), and she will make you happy.
hee hee
Now I think you're onto something there... LOL
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I don't know but I've been told big legged woman ain't got no soul.
Wow, I've lived long enough for Robert Plant to be quoted as a classic poet.
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Hey this sounds like a great topic for someone to study.....
The overall effectiveness and efficacy of sturdy legged women in marital relations.
Or maybe...
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, (sturdy legged woman)
And by opposing end them? To die in one's sleep; (by the outrageous acts of a sturdy legged woman)
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, (by a sturdy legged woman that has been shillelaghed)
LMAO rolling on the floor. I don't care who you are........ dat dere was funny!
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On debt:
"If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury."
-Exodus 22:25
"And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."
-Jesus in Matthew 6:12
"Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law."
-Paul's letter to the Romans 13:8
"O Allah, I seek refuge with you from all sins, and from being in debt."
-Prophet Muhammad in the Al-Musnadu Al-Sahihu bi Naklil Adli
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be; For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry."
-Polonius in Hamlet
"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
-Thomas Jefferson in his letter to John Taylor, May 28, 1816 [The Thomas Jefferson Papers, Library of Congress]
"The massive [potential source of fragility] is government deficits. As an analogy: You often have planes landing two hours late. In some cases, when you have volcanos, you can land two or three weeks late. How often have you landed two hours early? Never. It's the same with deficits. The errors tend to go one way rather than the other. When I wrote The Black Swan, I realized there was a huge bias in the way people estimate deficits and make forecasts. Typically things [cost] more, which is chronic. Governments that try to shoot for a surplus hardly ever reach it.
The problem is getting runaway. It's becoming a pure Ponzi scheme. It's very nonlinear: You need more and more debt just to stay where you are. And what broke Madoff is going to break governments. They need to find new suckers all the time."
-Nassim Taleb, Taleb: Government Deficits Could Be the Next 'Black Swan', http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jul2010/pi2010078_530571.htm (http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jul2010/pi2010078_530571.htm)
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A LEADER DOES NOT NEED A POSITION TO LEAD.THEY KNOW THAT LEADING IS NOT TELLING OTHERS WHAT TO DO,ITS SHOWING THEM!
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Words to live by for freedom-loving folk, especially in light of Ron Paul's inspirational efforts in this regard these past couple years:
"No longer are we going to turn the other cheek or bend over and get the other two kicked." ~Russell Means
Prelude to Wounded Knee '73.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q122Zt6BV0#)
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On returning from an overseas trip Ghandi was asked what he thought of Western Civilization, his reply -
"sounds like a good idea"
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One of the top 5 scenes in film-history:-
Capricorn Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uHhB_Wzccw#ws)
For those who wish to see this great movie in full:-
Capricorn One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Vku86mDqY#noexternalembed-ws)
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"To call something unremarkable simply because it happens everyday and is commonly available, is harmful to the enthusiasm and depth with which we can live. "
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I like that Ionna
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Who said that ionna?
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The only quotation I think is correct is the one about Pasteur. Otherwise:-
"They really ought to have known better.
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"Professor Goddard...does not know the relation of action to re-action,
and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to
react....he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high
schools."
-- 1920 New York Times editorial on Robert Goddard's rocket work.
[The New York Times printed a retraction to this---in 1969, when
the Apollo 11 astronauts were on their way to the Moon.]
"Landing and moving about on the moon offers so many serious problems for
human beings that it may take science another 200 years to lick them."
-- Science Digest, 1948
"You'll never make it -- four groups are out."
-- Anonymous record company executive to the Beatles, 1962
"While theoretically and technically television may be feasible,
commercially and financially I consider it an impossibility, a development
of which we need waste little time dreaming."
-- Lee De Forest, 1926
"Television won't matter in your lifetime or mine."
-- R.S. Lambert, Canadian Broadcaster, 1936
[Hey, give him credit: he was right!]
"The actual building of roads devoted to motor cars is not
for the near future, in spite of many rumours to that effect."
-- Harper's Weekly, 1902
"The ordinary 'horseless carriage' is at present a luxury for the wealthy;
and although its price will probably fall in the future, it will never, of
course, come into as common use as the bicycle."
-- Literary Digest, 1899
"Rail travel at high speed is not possible because passengers, unable to
breathe, would die of asphyxia."
-- Dr. Dionysus Lardner, 1793-1859
"What can be more palpably absurd than the prospect held out of
locomotives travelling twice the speed of stagecoaches?"
-- Quarterly Review, 1825
"Railroad Carriages are pulled at the enormous speed of 15 mph by engines
which, in addition to endangering life and limb of passengers, roar and
snort their way through the countryside, setting fire to the crops,
scaring the livestock, and frightening women and children. The Almighty
certainly never intended that people should travel at such breakneck
speed."
-- Martin Van Buren
"Our future discoveries must be looked for in the sixth decimal place."
-- A. A. Michelson, 1894
[On the occasion of the dedication of a physics laboratory in Chicago,
noting that all the more important physical laws had been discovered]
"I can accept the theory of relativity as little as I can accept the
existence of atoms and other such dogmas."
-- Ernst Mach (1838-1916)
"Physics, as we know it, will be over in six months." -- Max Born, 1928
"Even originally well-defined pencils of cathode rays from the Sun cannot
reach the Earth. For Birkeland's theories to be correct, the existance of
such cathode rays is clearly presupposed to be necessary...and this
assumption is untenable."
-- Arthur Schuster, on Kristian Birkeland's theory of what causes
aurorae. The "cathode rays" are now called the solar wind.
"It seems as if we may also be forced to conclude that the supposed
connexion between magnetic storms and sun-spots is unreal, and that the
seeming agreement between periods has been a mere coincidence."
-- Lord Kelvin, 1892
"X-rays will prove to be a hoax."
-- Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895
"Radio has no future."
-- Lord Kelvin
"Heavier than air flying machines are impossible."
-- Lord Kelvin
"Flight by machines heavier than air is impractical and insignificant, if
not utterly impossible."
-- Simon Newcomb, Director, U.S. Naval Observatory, 1902
"Aerial flight is one of that class of problems with which man will never
be able to cope."
-- Simon Newcomb, 1903
"The resistance of air increases as the square of the speed and works as
the cube [of speed].... It is clear that with our present devices there
is no hope of aircraft competing for racing speed with either our
locomotives or automobiles."
-- William H. Pickering, Director, Harvard College Observatory, 1910
"The popular mind often pictures gigantic flying machines speeding across
the Atlantic carrying innumerable passengers in a way analogous to our
modern steam ships. . . it seems safe to say that such ideas are wholly
visionary and even if the machine could get across with one or two
passengers the expense would be prohibitive to any but the capitalist who
could use his own yacht."
-- William Henry Pickering, Astronomer, 1910
"A popular fantasy is to suppose that flying machines could
be used to drop dynamite on the enemy in time of war."
-- William H. Pickering, Director, Harvard College Observatory, 1908
"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."
-- Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de
Guerre
"The aeroplane is the invention of the devil and will never play any part
in such a serious business as the defence of a nation."
-- Sir Sam Hughes, Canadian Minister of Defence, 1914
"By no possibility can the carriage of freight or passengers through
mid-air compete with their carriage on the earth's surface. The field
for aerial navigation is then limited to military use and for sporting
purposes. The former is doubtful, the latter is fairly certain."
-- Hugh Dryden, 1908
"The [flying] machines will eventually be fast; they will be used in
sport but they should not be thought of as commercial carriers."
-- Octave Chanute, 1910
"The director of Military Aeronautics of France has decided to discontinue
the purchase of monoplanes, their place to be filled entirely with
bi-planes. This decision practically sounds the death knell of the
monoplane as a military instrunent."
-- Scientific American, 1915
"As far as sinking a ship with a bomb is concerned, you just can't do it."
-- Rear Admiral Clark Woodward, 1939
"Even considering the improvements possible...the gas turbine could hardly
be considered a feasible application to airplanes because of the
difficulties of complying with the stringent weight requirements."
-- U. S. National Academy Of Science, 1940
"Although we are living in what may be termed the steam era and our Navy
is a steam navy, I have in this work wholly excluded the consideration of
steam power, as, owing to the great cost of coal and the impossibility of
providing stowage for it except to a limited extent, the application of
steam power for ordinary purposes must be strictly auxiliary and
subordinate and its employment in general service the exception rather
than the rule."
-- Captain Alston, RN, Manual of Seamanship, 1859
"I do not believe in the commercial possibility of induced radioactivity."
-- J. B. S. Haldane
"The energy produced by the breaking down of the atom is a very poor kind
of thing. Anyone who expects a source of power from the transformations
of these atoms is talking moonshine."
-- Ernest Rutherford, 1930
"There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will be
obtainable."
-- Albert Einstein, 1932
"It can be taken for granted that before 1980 ships, aircraft, locomotives
and even automobiles will be atomically fueled."
-- David Sarnoff, 1955
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
-- Major General John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania Courthouse, May 1864
"Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys which distract our attention
from serious things. We are in great haste to construct a magnetic
telegraph from Maine to Texas; but Maine and Texas, it may be, have
nothing important to communicate."
-- Henry David Thoreau
"I must confess that my imagination, in spite even of spurring, refuses to
see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and
foundering at sea."
-- H. G. Wells, 1901
"People give ear to an upstart astrologer [Copernicus]...this fool wishes
to reverse the entire science of astronomy"
-- Martin Luther
"I think there should be a law of Nature to prevent a star from behaving
in this absurd way!"
-- Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington, on the Chandrasekhar limit
"[Of celestial bodies] We may determine their forms, their distances,
their sizes, and their motions---but we can never know anything of their
chemical composition; and much less, that of organized beings living on
their surface." -- Philosopher Auguste Comte, 1835
"Since the 40-inch objective of the Yerkes refractor and the 200-inch
mirror of the Palomar reflector have apparently reached the practical
construction limits for telescopes of their respective types, it is
extremely doubtful if a greater light-gathering eye of either kind will
ever again be built." -- A. Frederick Collins, 1942
"This foolish idea of shooting at the moon is an example of the absurd
length to which vicious specialization will carry scientists. To escape
the Earth's gravitation a projectile needs a velocity of 7 miles per
second. The thermal energy at this speed is 15,180 calories [per gram].
Hence the proposition appears to be basically impossible"
-- A. W. Bickerton, 1926
"I am bold enough to say that a man-made Moon voyage will never occur
regardless of all scientific advances."
-- Lee De Forest, "the father of electronics"
"There is no hope for the fanciful idea of reaching the Moon because of
insurmountable barriers to escaping the Earth's gravity."
-- Forest Ray Moulton, astronomer, 1932
"Space travel is utter bilge."
-- Richard Woolley, Astronomer Royal, 1956
"All this stuff about traveling around the universe in space
suits---except for local exploration which I have not discussed---belongs
back where it came from, on the cereal box."
-- Edward Purcell, Harvard radio astronomer, 1960
Space is clearly the great breakthrough of human knowledge---for centuries
to come...We have a long and undistinguished record of America failing to
anticipate the promise and potential of each new age of science,
invention, and discovery...Even so far-sighted an American as Woodrow
Wilson spent time denouncing the automobile. The steamboat, the
locomotive, the airplane, all brought prophecies of doom and gloom. We
have learned a lesson we surely do not need to be be taught again.
-- Lyndon Baines Johnson, June 1963
"Fooling around with alternating currents is just a waste of time. Nobody
will use it, ever. It's too dangerous. . . it could kill a man as quick
as a bolt of lightning. Direct current is safe."
-- Thomas Edison
"Just as certain as death, [George] Westinghouse will kill a customer
within six months after he puts in a system of any size."
-- Thomas Edison
"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons."
-- Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
[This is actually right: computers these days usually do weigh no
more than 1.5 tons.]
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
-- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943
"I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with
the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that
won't last out the year."
-- The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957
"But what ... is it good for?"
-- Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,
commenting on the microchip
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
-- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp., 1977 [DEC went on to founder in the PC market.]
"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as
a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us."
-- Western Union internal memo, 1876
"The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay
for a message sent to nobody in particular?"
-- David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment
in the radio in the 1920s
"The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better
than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible."
-- A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's
paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service [Smith went on
to found Federal Express Corp.]
"Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"
-- H. M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927
"I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and not Gary
Cooper."
-- Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in "Gone
With The Wind"
"A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say
America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make."
-- Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies
"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."
-- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962
"If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The
literature was full of examples that said you can't do this."
-- Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M
"Post-It" Notepads
"So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even
built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or
we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come
work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard,
and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college
yet.'"
-- Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and
H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer
"You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of
your muscles? It can't be done. It's just a fact of life. You just have
to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of
weight training."
-- Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem by
inventing Nautilus
"Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil?
You're crazy."
-- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill
for oil in 1859
"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."
-- Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929
"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction".
-- Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872
"No one will ever be able to measure nerve impulse speed."
-- Johannes Muller, German Physiologist, 1846
"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the
intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon".
-- Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed
Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria, 1873
"We are probably at the limit of what we can know about astronomy."
-- Simon Newcomb, 1888
"That the automobile has reached the limit of its development is suggested
by the fact that during the last year no improvements of a radical nature
have been introduced."
-- Scientific American, 1909
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
-- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899
"Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for
future improvements."
-- Julius Frontenus, 10 A.D.
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." "
-- Bill Gates, 1981
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The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.”
Aldous Huxley
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Saber - great quote. I learned a long time ago in a psychology class that the definition of normal was what the most people agree upon. If you have 3 people in society and 2 say that that something exists or is right then the 3rd person is abnormal.
Normal does not mean healthy or even desirable - I mean not even in terms of psychology. All it means is that you think/act in a way that is similar to those in your society.
Being adjusted to illness due to poor diet for instance would actually make me more "normal"
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all previous centuries of its existence. - Nikola Tesla
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The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all previous centuries of its existence. - Nikola Tesla
Ain't that the truth.
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Tesla was divinely inspired and an extremely gifted man.
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For those who understand no explanation is necessary. For those who do not understand no explanation is possible.
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Who said that ionna?
it was in the prologue of a book i was reading at the time, but i can't remember which book!? i'll try to find it!
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it was in the prologue of a book i was reading at the time, but i can't remember which book!? i'll try to find it!
It's from the Green Witch Guide.
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Ooo, Tesla, cool. Here are some more from him:
"A single ray of light from a distant star falling upon the eye of a tyrant in bygone times may have altered the course of his life, may have changed the destiny of nations, may have transformed the surface of the globe, so intricate, so inconceivably complex are the processes in Nature."
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. "
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Ooo, Tesla, cool. Here are some more from him:
"A single ray of light from a distant star falling upon the eye of a tyrant in bygone times may have altered the course of his life, may have changed the destiny of nations, may have transformed the surface of the globe, so intricate, so inconceivably complex are the processes in Nature."
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. "
Wow PP,
Where ja get that pearl?
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Not sure, I think it was from here: http://www.quotesstar.com/quotes/a/a-single-ray-of-light-174324.html. (http://www.quotesstar.com/quotes/a/a-single-ray-of-light-174324.html.) I probably should have checked the original sources, as the Internet is notoriously prone to misattribution, but I haven't yet heard of Tesla being badly misquoted and got excited by seeing his quotes.
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"Only a fool fights a battle he knows he cannot win." -Chinggis Khaan (Genghis Khan)
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“As soon as one stops searching for knowledge, or if one imagines that it need not be creatively sought in the depths of the human spirit but can be assembled extensively by collecting and classifying facts, everything is irrevocably and forever lost.”
Wilhelm von Humboldt
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"The rich are not those who have the most, but those who need the least."
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Absolutely Joy!
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interesting thought.
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i'll offer three quickies:
"some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb..." adam west as batman
"the stupid shall be punished" someone i met years ago, whose name i can't remember (???)
"it'll be just like a sleepover, only we'll be sweaty, and covered with grease!" spongebob squarepants
done here.
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New Communication Technology (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xDbfHYZy4k#)
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Research is to see what everyone else has seen and to think what nobody has thought.
Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Taken from Dr (MD) Robert O Becker's "Cross Currents" Chap. Four, Turning on the body's electrical system: Minimal-energy techniques.
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You see things; and you say, “Why?”
But I dream things that never were; and I say,
“Why not?”
George Bernard Shaw1
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Health is not valued till sickness comes.
Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1732
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Longevity is only desirable if it increases the
duration of youth, and not that of old age.
The lengthening of the senescent period would
be a calamity.
Alexis Carrel (1935)
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The history of medicine is a history of conflict.
We should be making awards for infamy, but the
list would be too long and thus no one would
stand out.
Abram Hoffer, Speech at the 2nd Annual
Orthomolecular Medicine Hall of Fame Induction
Banquet, “The Orthomolecular Oscars” cited by
Saul, A.W. (2005). Doctor Yourself Newsletter, 5(12)
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Science became an educated cadaver of thought, above which congregate expert players. If the encyclopedia of the ignorance of the acknowledged authorities in the history were to be published, it would number many fat volumes. Nothing will interest scientists anymore. They are like oxen which feed off fenced-off pasture.
Professor Wlodzimierz Sedlak
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The bigger the investment the stronger the denial.
Phil Rickman, The Lamp of the Wicked (2003)
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I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy.
Rabindranath Tagore
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I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy.
Rabindranath Tagore
Rabindranath is a pure joy to read, thanks Tyler
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"Everything will work out in the end,
and if everything is not working out,
it is because it is not the end"
Indian expression I heard in "The Marigold Hotel"
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I must create a system or be enslaved by another mans; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create. - William Blake
Without contraries is no progression. Attraction and repulsion, reason and energy, love and hate, are necessary to human existence. - William Blake
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Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever. Amen
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"We Americans are so tired of being thought of as dumb asses by the rest of the world, that we went to the polls this past November and removed all doubt."
Clint Eastwood
(For the record you can remove the word "Americans" and insert whatever country you want in there,)
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Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever. Amen
I've always wondered 1) what exactly this means, and 2) who made this up since the whole Jesus story is based on another story, and both are based on astrology.
1 because I don't really think forgiveness makes sense. I mean, do we really want to forgive Monsanto while we let them destroy our food supply? Obviously not. We want to stop them before it's not just salmon that's gmo, but beef, chicken, turkey, etc. And before it's not just pineapple and papaya, but all our fruits, veggies and nuts are gmo. Same thing applies to every aspect of corporations, government entities, and health care destroying our quality of life.
2 - http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/Jesus-and-the-Astrological-Zodiac (http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/Jesus-and-the-Astrological-Zodiac)
"Broadly speaking, the story of Horus is as follows: Horus was born on December 25th [S14] [S15] of the virgin Isis-Meri.[S16] [S17] [S18] His birth was accompanied by a star in the east [S19], which in turn, three kings followed to locate and adorn the new-born savior [S20] [S21] At the age of 12, he was a prodigal child teacher, and at the age of 30 [S22] [S23] he was baptized by a figure known as Anup and thus began his ministry [S24]. Horus had 12 disciples [S25] he traveled about with, performing miracles [S26] [S27] such as healing the sic [S28] and walking on water [S29]. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others [S30] [S31]. After being betrayed by Typhon [S32], Horus was crucified [S33] [S34], buried for 3 days [S35], and thus, resurrected.[S36] [S37]."
Notice they're saying "Horus," not Jesus. Yes, an ancient religion in Egypt, based on astrology, has the EXACT SAME STORY as Jesus'.
Here are several other "sons of God," born in various other places, having the same story.
"These attributes of Horus, whether original or not, seem to permeate in many cultures of the world, for many other gods are found to have the same general mythological structure.
Attis, of Phyrigia, born of the virgin Nana on December 25th, crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days, was resurrected. [S38] [S39] [S40] [S41] [S42] [S43]
Krishna, of India, born of the virgin Devaki with a star in the east signaling his coming, performed miracles with his disciples, and upon his death was resurrected. [S44] [S45] [S46] [S47] [S48] [M2]
Dionysus of Greece, born of a virgin on December 25th, was a traveling teacher who performed miracles such as turning water into wine, he was referred to as the "King of Kings," "God's Only Begotten Son," "The Alpha and Omega," and many others, and upon his death, he was resurrected.[S49] [S50] [S51] [S52] [S53] [M]
Mithra, of Persia, born of a virgin on December 25th, he had 12 disciples and performed miracles, and upon his death was buried for 3 days and thus resurrected, he was also referred to as "The Truth," "The Light," and many others. Interestingly, the sacred day of worship of Mithra was Sunday.[S54] [S55] [S56] [S57] [S58] [M]"
Explanation how these made up characters are nothing more than descriptions of astrology.
"First of all, the birth sequence is completely astrological. The star in the east is Sirius, the brightest star in the night sky, which, on December 24th, aligns with the 3 brightest stars in Orion's Belt. [S60] These 3 bright stars are called today what they were called in ancient times: The Three Kings.[S61][S62] The Three Kings and the brightest star, Sirius, all point to the place of the sunrise on December 25th.[S63] This is why the Three Kings "follow" the star in the east, in order to locate the sunrise -- the birth of the sun.[S64]
The Virgin Mary is the constellation Virgo, [S65] also known as Virgo the Virgin. Virgo in Latin means virgin. The ancient glyph for Virgo is the altered "m". This is why Mary along with other virgin mothers, such as Adonis's mother Myrrha [S66], or Buddha's mother Maya [S67] begin with an M.[S68] Virgo is also referred to as the House of Bread [S69] [S70], and the representation of Virgo is a virgin holding a sheaf of wheat. This House of Bread and its symbol of wheat represents August and September, the time of harvest. In turn, Bethlehem, in fact, literally translates to "house of bread". [S71] Bethlehem is thus a reference to the constellation Virgo, a place in the sky, not on Earth. [S72]"
So, who made up these teachings that so many believe are from a "savior?" Was it government leaders looking to manipulate the masses into letting them do whatever they want?
Seems like it with teachings like "forgive," "turn the other cheek," etc. What would a government like more than people who say, it's ok that you're screwing us, we're going to forgive you, turn the other cheek, and allow you to keep screwing us.
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Life isn't as they say one thing after another. In fact its the same damn things over and over again.
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"We are built to be dupes for theories. But theories come and go; experience stays. Explanations change all the time, and have changed all the time in history..." - Nassim Taleb
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"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift of God, which is why we call it the present.”
Bil Keane
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"So, who made up these teachings that so many believe are from a "savior?" Was it government leaders looking to manipulate the masses into letting them do whatever they want?
Seems like it with teachings like "forgive," "turn the other cheek," etc. What would a government like more than people who say, it's ok that you're screwing us, we're going to forgive you, turn the other cheek, and allow you to keep screwing us"
The point is that if you're always trying to find an enemy to destroy you will only end up destroying yourself. Live by the sword die by the sword... But that doesn't mean you don't have a right to defend yourself.
There is a time for war and a time for peace. A time for love and a time for hate.
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When the bell tolls three times, it will announce that I have been killed. If I am killed by common men, you and your children will rule Russia for centuries to come; if I am killed by one of your stock, you and your family will be killed by the Russian people! Pray Tsar of Russia. Pray. - Rasputin
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"He that complies against his will
Is of his own opinion still."
~Samuel Butler (1612-1680), in Hudibras: Part iii, Canto iii, Line 547
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Physics progresses funeral by funeral.
Max Planck
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If you love someone let them go,
If they come back, no one else wanted them
Anonymous
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I didn't make it to the gym today.
That makes five years in a row
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William Law
Love has no errors, for all errors are the want of love.
Death is not more certainly a separation of our souls from our bodies than the Christian life is a separation of our souls from worldly tempers, vain indulgences, and unnecessary cares.
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"One can never know whether to trust quotes on the internet"
Abraham Lincoln
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Honest Abe, could never tell a lie.
Long experience has taught me this about the status of mankind with regard to matters requiring thought: the less people know and understand about them, the more positively they attempt to argue concerning them, while on the other hand to know and understand a multitude of things renders men cautious in passing judgement upon anything new.
Galileo Galilei
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ST,
I wish I could claim authorship of the Abe quote, but alas I swiped it from somebody.
Re GG quote, Very true! I see myself doing that from time to time.
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We will follow ISIS to the gates of hell - Joe Biden
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War is peace, Freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. - George Orwell
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My mind has changed during the last twenty or thirty years... Now for many years I cannot endure to read a line of poetry… I have also almost lost any taste for pictures or music… My mind seems to have become a kind of machine for grinding general laws out of large collections of facts...
If I had to live my life again I would have made a rule to read some poetry and listen to some music at least once every week… The loss of these tastes is a loss of happiness, and may possibly be injurious to the intellect, and more probably to the moral character, by enfeebling the emotional part of our nature.
The Autobiography of Charles Darwin, 1809-1882 (pp. 138-139)
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The obstacles you encounter in the realization of your high ideal are not there to discourage you, but to stimulate you so that you will provide your fellow human beings with works or examples of inestimable value. If others do not recognize your efforts at the time, you must not be concerned. Everything you strive to create by means of love and light will remain immortal, and this is all that matters. Continue to advance, and you will sense that your difficulties act beneficially on you by strengthening your character. The more others try to oppress and constrain you, the more you must strive to become strong, full of hope and unshakeable in your faith. Sooner or later, not only will those who put obstacles in your path recognize you as an exceptional being, but by inspiring thousands of people to follow in your footsteps, you will be a force for good everywhere." Omraam Mikhael Aivanh
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Brilliant Brad, Thanks.
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Glad you liked it... :) If there were no rewards to reap, No loving embrace to see me through This tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would've walked away by now. Gonna wait it out. If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along This tedious path I've chosen here I certainly would've walked away by now. And I still may, (sigh), I still may. Be patient. I must keep reminding myself of this
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J.R.R. Tolkien
“Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.”
? J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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Very nice Brad and TD
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Another quote to start the day: Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of teachers. After observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” ~ Words of Wisdom from the Buddha
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"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."--Mark Twain
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"How much damage is done every day as a result of the deplorable tendency of always finding something negative to gossip about in others! And newspapers, the radio and the television only amplify this tendency. What pleasure can there be in focusing so much on what is ridiculous, stupid or nasty? How can it be of interest to dig about in people’s personal lives in search of shocking details and then to disclose them for public amusement? It may seem of no importance, but it is an increasing tendency, and in the end it undermines a society, because it rubs off on the whole population. People vie to point out details, which they then exaggerate or distort, choosing the cruellest words to spread their gossip. Everyone has something reprehensible or ridiculous about them – that is nothing new – but why dwell on it at length? Society will not be any better for it. A sage tries to have a different attitude. He is not blind; he is even very lucid, and is also capable of criticizing and making fun, but he considers that the most important thing about people is their qualities and their virtues. So these are what he focuses on, and with this attitude he reinforces the good in other people and in himself. By working in this way, he is being constructive." Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov
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"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set". -- Lin Yutang
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The Ego and Its Own (1844)
Max Stirner (1844) The Ego and Its Own. Translations: Tucker, New York 1907; S. Byington, trans. (1913); Cambridge 1995; Dover 2005
What is not supposed to be my concern! First and foremost, the Good Cause, then God's cause, the cause of mankind, of truth, of freedom, of humanity, of justice; further, the cause of my people, my prince, my fatherland; finally, even the cause of Mind, and a thousand other causes. Only my cause is never to be my concern. "Shame on the egoist who thinks only of himself!"
Cambridge 1995, p. 5
I have no need to take up each thing that wants to throw its cause on us and show that it is occupied only with itself, not with us, only with its good, not with ours. Look at the rest for yourselves. Do truth, freedom, humanity, justice, desire anything else than that you grow enthusiastic and serve them?
Cambridge 1995, p. 6
The divine is God's concern; the human, man's. My concern is neither the divine nor the human, not the true, good, just, free, etc., but solely what is mine, and it is not a general one, but is — unique, as I am unique. Nothing is more to me than myself!
Cambridge 1995, p. 7
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The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.. John Milton, Paradise Lost
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"Vanity of vanities," says the Preacher, "Vanity of vanities! All is vanity." (3) What advantage does man have in all his work Which he does under the sun?"
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“God isn't the son of Memory; He's the son of Immediate Experience. You can't worship a spirit in spirit, unless you do it now. Wallowing in the past may be good literature. As wisdom, it's hopeless. Time Regained is Paradise Lost, and Time Lost is Paradise Regained. Let the dead bury their dead. If you want to live at every moment as it presents itself, you've got to die to every other moment.”
Aldous huxley
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" I do muscular work, because I have muscles, and if I don't use
my muscles I shall become a bad-tempered sitting-addict."
"With nothing between the cortex and the buttocks," said Dr. Robert. "Or rather with everything---but in a condition of complete unconsciousness and toxic stagnation. Western intellectuals are all sitting-addicts. That's why most of you are so repulsively unwholesome. In the past even a duke had to do a lot of walking, even a moneylender, even a metaphysician. And when they weren't using their legs, they were jogging about on horses. Whereas now, from the tycoon to his typist, from the logical positivist to the positive thinker, you spend nine tenths of your time on foam rubber. Spongy seats for spongy bottoms---at home, in the office, in cars and bars, in planes and trains and buses. No moving of legs, no struggles with distance and gravity---just lifts and planes and cars, just foam rubber and an eternity of sitting. The life force that used to find an outlet through striped muscle gets turned back on the viscera and the nervous system, and slowly destroys them."
[...Vijaya explained,] "If you'd been shown how to do things with the minimum of strain and the maximum of awareness, you'd enjoy even honest toil."
Aldous Huxley Island
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They who sow in tears shall reap in joy and singing. PSALM 126:5 AMP
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"You think it is not possible to bring light and peace to all the people on earth, as there are so many of them! Of course, if you look at it like that, you’re right. But when you know certain methods, it becomes possible. Try, for example, to imagine humanity as a single being. Yes, imagine the whole world as a being, next to you, and you are holding their hand and sending them lots of love. The tiny particles that spread out from your soul at that moment move off in all directions in space and spread to all human beings, inspiring in them the most generous and brotherly thoughts and feelings. In this way, what you are doing for this being you are imagining has an effect on men and women all over the world. If there were hundreds, thousands, of us doing this exercise, a new breath, a divine breath, would pass through all creatures, and one day they too would feel inspired by an ideal of light and peace." Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov
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“And their memory made them extraordinary. In them, the unconscious knowledge of ancestral behavior called instinct had evolved. Stored in the back of their large brains were not just their own memories, but the memories of their forebears. They could recall knowledge learned by their ancestors and, under special circumstances, they could go a step beyond. They could recall their racial memory, their own evolution. And when they reached back far enough, they could merge that memory that was identical for all and join their minds, telepathically.”
? Jean M. Auel, The Clan of the Cave Bear
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"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed.
If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."
--Mark Twain
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"Greek democracy today chose to stop going gently into the night. Greek democracy resolved to rage against the dying of the light."
'We've made hope return to Europe'
Yanis Varoufakis
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Hope that you can get out of paying your debts? Good luck on that one.
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Varoufakis has successfully challenged the validity of the debts being put upon his people. He is a man of vision who is capable of clearly seeing the flaws and inequity which are built into the foundation of the current system, and his pragmatic views are inspiring other people of the world to transcend economic tyranny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBmsSkX3QAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBmsSkX3QAM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqZ2evtU0Yg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqZ2evtU0Yg)
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An answer to Tyler's “Life is not fair and people are not equal.” by Hiroo Onoda:
"God made man to his image, Sam Colt made them equal" unknown.
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"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted"-Ralph Waldo Emerson
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An answer to Tyler's “Life is not fair and people are not equal.” by Hiroo Onoda:
"God made man to his image, Sam Colt made them equal" unknown.
There are others:-
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal."
Aristotle
"Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can ever turn it into a fact."
Honore de Balzac
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"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted"-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Jessica, that says it all when it comes to a lot if not all problems with PPL. Thanks
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There are others:-
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal."
Aristotle
"Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can ever turn it into a fact."
Honore de Balzac
Ain't that the truth.
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It is easier to fool PPL,
than to convince them that they have been fooled
Mark Twain
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“The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say”
J. R. R Tolkien
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The Lord spoke to Moses, saying: Speak to the whole Israelite community and say to them: You shall be holy, for I, the Lord your God, am.holy.
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The less you give a fuck, the happier you'll be. Mother Teresa.
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http://www.lovethispic.com/image/87217/the-less-you-give-a-fuck,-the-happier-youll-be (http://www.lovethispic.com/image/87217/the-less-you-give-a-fuck,-the-happier-youll-be)
I think she must of stole that one from Jack Nicholson
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Damn, you just bursted my bubble. Thanks alot. :)
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"You wanna play blind man, go walk with the shepherd, but me, my eyes are wide fuckin' open."
Pulp fiction
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"Civilization is sterilization." Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley.
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Just posting this because of a strange coincidence I had while reading this passage:
GEN 4:9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
GEN 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
GEN 4:11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
GEN 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
GEN 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I
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I can't believe I just admitted to reading the bible, I need to do some drugs and try to ground myself.
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“Armaments, universal debt, and planned obsolescence—those are the three pillars of Western prosperity. If war, waste, and moneylenders were abolished, you'd collapse. And while you people are overconsuming the rest of the world sinks more and more deeply into chronic disaster.”
? Aldous Huxley, Island
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"But I don't want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin.”
? Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
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"Brave New World Quotes
“All right then," said the savage defiantly, I'm claiming the right to be unhappy."
"Not to mention the right to grow old and ugly and impotent; the right to have syphilis and cancer; the right to have too little to eat, the right to be lousy; the right to live in constant apprehension of what may happen tomorrow; the right to catch typhoid; the right to be tortured by unspeakable pains of every kind."
There was a long silence.
"I claim them all," said the Savage at last.”
? Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
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"The greatest purveyor of violence in the world : My own Government, I can not be Silent.” ? Martin Luther King Jr.
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I believe there's a God but I'm not too sure of his relevance.”
? Trent Reznor
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"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed more if only they knew they were slaves"
Harriet Tubman.
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"You may command nature only to the extent in which you are willing to obey her"
Walter Russell
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"Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time
For y'all have knocked her up
I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe
I was not offended
For I knew I had to rise above it all
Or drown in my own shit"
George Clinton
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https://phish.net/song/be-good-and-youll-be-lonely/lyrics
Sadly, I have found the above song to be the rule. Judging from the people I know, being a sociopath seems to be essential for modern survival. How could I have been so stupid!?
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Benjamin Franklin
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“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
Voltaire
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*Virus Mania How The Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion $ Profits:* https://archive.org/details/virus-mania-how-the-medical-industry-continually-invents-epidemics/mode/2up
*BÉCHAMP or PASTEUR? A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology by Ethel Douglas Hume:*
https://digital.library.yorku.ca/yul-570312/bechamp-or-pasteur-lost-chapter-history-biology#page/44/mode/2up
Or here: https://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/biographies/Bechamp-or-Pasteur.pdf
*The Contagion Myth by Thomas S. Cowan, Sally Fallon Morell:* https://www.pattoverascienza.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/The_Contagion-MITH_W.pdf
*The Blood and Its Third Element:* https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Its-Third-Element/dp/1541159357/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1620905249&refinements=p_27%3AAntoine+Bechamp&s=books&sr=1-1
In 1776, Dr. Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, foretold a grim scenario that has now taken shape right before our eyes. He said: *"Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution the time will come when medicine will organize itself into an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to doctors and deny equal privileges to others will constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic.".* Now, after the year 2000, we are very much facing this reality, as we live in an era where our medical freedom is increasingly under attack, and "healing" has been replaced with "treating" ‘diseases’ with toxic chemicals and surgery. This drug-driven medical paradigm not only depends on the sacrifice and, some might say, torture, of animals in medical research, but also in many ways uses humans as sacrificial lambs.
Remember the television series V back in 2009? The Visitors talk of universal health care (like Democrats and Obama). The whole push to get everybody insured was an emotional trick (get everyone into the doctor's office for a shot). Season 1, Episode 4 titled "It's Only the Beginning". The Visitors are using the flu vaccine to inject human beings with a biological "tag" so that they can be traced anywhere. The Visitors urge "Peace Ambassadors" to bring humans into "Healing Centers" for THE DAWN OF A NEW DAY.
Dr Pierre Gilbert in 1995:
"In the biological destruction there are the organized tempests on the magnetic fields. What will follow is a contamination of the bloodstreams of mankind, creating intentional infections. This will be enforced via laws that will make vaccination mandatory. And these vaccines will make possible to control people. The vaccines will have liquid crystals that will become hosted in the brain cells, which will become micro-receivers of electromagnetic fields where waves of very low frequencies will be sent. And through these low frequency waves people will be unable to think, you’ll be turned into a zombie. Don’t think of this as a hypothesis. This has been done. Think of Rwanda"
Magnetogenetics: remote non-invasive magnetic activation of neuronal activity with a magnetoreceptor: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26740890/
Is magnetogenetics the new optogenetics?: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5470037/
Look up spions. Super paramagnetic iron oxide nanoparticles.
The technology exist they even tested magneto protein into rats to stimulate release of dopamine from an electro magnetic field. Dopamine is involved in the reward pathway and thus it influence behaviour.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2016/mar/24/magneto-remotely-controls-brain-and-behaviour
First of all I say, there is no such thing as a pathogen when it comes to bacteria. Pathogen means disease causing. Bacteria never cause disease. Chemicals cause disease. The pharmaceutical industry, the chemical industry and the military industrial complex don’t want you to know that everything they produce causes cancer and disease. They call all the natural things pathogenic so you’re completely confused and stupid. Bacteria that clean up, they are janitors; they are just janitors. They eat decaying, dead and toxic tissue. Depending on how toxic the tissue is, the bacteria may not be able to eat it because it would kill them. In that case, your body creates virus which are not alive, they are just solvents that will dissolve that matter that is contaminated.
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"Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"
"We Gladly Feast on Those Who Would Subdue Us."
The credo of The Addams Family
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Freedom is nothing but the distance between the hunter and its prey.”
Ocean Vuong
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"When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Declaration of Independence (July 4th 1776)