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Science / Re: end of the world?
« on: May 26, 2015, 04:33:56 pm »
Nobody else?  Thank you 4 the ANSWER!   

Science / Re: end of the world?
« on: May 26, 2015, 01:56:21 am »
It is a riddle. If I made u curious  read please the other  text (in Hungarian :) ) on Face book. It is art I will not enplane it.
I want to prove that rawfooders are better then Hungarians, but it is again just a joke. Forget me!  www 666 clack,clack, clack,

Science / end of the world?
« on: May 25, 2015, 07:54:50 pm »
About human domestication for rawfoodists and for some beautiful women

Years ago I wrote a similar letter to the members of my family and some friends, (you can find it on my Face book in Hungarian) but they only reacted as dead react. That writing is actually part of a 700 page book that I sent to a publisher, Élet és Irodalom. Their answer was extremely short: “No.” Similar to someone who has something in his mouth or just swallowed something the wrong way. I didn’t push it any further. The professionals know what is good for the general public.

Now let us look at this select group.

Originally all people were nomadic gatherer-hunters.They went usually stark naked. You couldn’t distinguish old and young from behind. They looked all quite the same in one region, just like wild animals do. They spoke only dialects of the same language. (Noam Chomsky) They didn’t bury the dead :) They didn’t have a chieftain. They were working much less then we do, but danced much more. The few surviving wild groups of people on the planet are still nice. Well, the Sentinels kill most visitors, and don’t take presents. They cut the throats of two supposedly-drunken Indian furtive fishers when they drifted ashore on their island. You can see on Youtube a Sentinel attacking a helicopter with his arrows, even running after it. Nevertheless they accepted one anthropologist. In all probability he risked his life for humanity, which is a respectable behavior. Gatherer hunters have lots of body contact with their children, and are patient with them. Such children don’t torture captives in wartime later in their life.

The modern child on the other hand is often left alone with his toys. Only if he cries or misbehaves is coming someone. So he learns that crying is good. But the more often he cries, the responses are increasingly negative.The so called “good” child  sacrifices learning and waits patiently until mama eventually comes. He carries his pain silently, but  ends up also like the “bad” one, not really loving people. Ongoing conflicting emotions drive us crazy.

In one experiment, they administered sudden air blows, time and again in the nostrils of feeding cats. Not long before the cats get neurotic (experimental neurosis). For example one cat turned 5 to 9 times anticlockwise before eating every time.

Accordingly the list of human sexual aberrations is a meter long too.  Narcicism, Exhibitionism, Necrophilia :), Fetishism etc.  An example for the last one. In my village an elderly woman told me that one neighbor didn’t have intercourse with his wife, but was playing with her pubic hair instead. (Maybe she didn’t  liked him either, and instinctively wanted to hurt the weak one... Later more.)
To create addiction is also necessarily a conflictive situation. Eating good, getting fat bad. Smoking good, caught by smoking bad. Eating organic exotic fruits good, very expensive bad.
For the same reason animals get hooked on drugs only if they can take them voluntarily.

Where is the solution?  At the moment nowhere. We have to learn more, I’m afraid.
The Sami people castrate the biggest bulls in they reindeer herds (with their balls they are more dangerous). As a result they animals have weakened connective tissues. They belly and ears hang down. In spite that this animals eat the same food, have the same exercise in the same habitat as their wild counterparts. Even the wolves decimate them, taking away the weakest ones.
At the beginning of domestication cattle appeared with huge horns and without horns, because lacking sexual selection, rare genes enter the gene pool. Strange genes make some dogs and humans look peculiar and might trigger their odd behavior. Putting it politically correct, we are multicolored like the rainbow :)

A gatherer women can only guess who is the father of her newborn, and even in modern societies 1 of 10 children is not from his “father” fortunately.
Women in the days near estrus instinctively look for men with good genes. Especially so if she is good looking herself. This high-testosterone males have strong mandibles, are hairy, generally tall, more right brain dominated etc. OOO  F, HOW BOORING IS TU CHECK  ALL WORDS 4 SPELL ING. I  WROTE MANDIBLE IN THE PREVIOUS SENTENCE, BECAUSE THE MASHINE IS UNABLE TO TO GUESS WHAT IM TRYING TO WRITE.. Even their body odor attracts women on these days. If they sleep together, (euphemism of course) she is more likely to have orgasm, and her orgasm happens more often after his, to increase the possibility of pregnancy. (I cant leave it unmentioned here, that semen in the vagina is antidepressant for the women. PLEASE DONT BELIVE ME! DOBLE CHECK EVERITHING!)

Monogamy deteriorate human genes as a whole. Only a women who has a testosterone loaded good looking husband, makes good business in genetic sense, but these guys are not very patient and often don’t perform ideally as a family-man.

There are monogamous species (with good genes of course) like wild geese. You domesticate them by putting a randomly chosen male with some females together. (polygamous, Muslim system.) After 2-3 generations they can’t fly away, even if want to (TO HELP DRAWING THAT BIG LETTER OF V ON THE SKY.:) Claudio Artigas Rosell: Cria Lucrativade de Patos y Gansos
Every species tries to improve its genes.  Among wolves only the alpha male and female have descendants. I once introduced a white fat hybrid rooster to my 3 red fit hens. Later on they picked him to death.

Did you know that good looking people are better and served more quickly in shops? Don’t  you see in bullying the same tendency?

I believe free love would feel great after some practice. Children would notice that a lot is going on, and surely they would like to kiss and stroke too. (There is a phobia of children also, not just pedophilia). Free love would be possible only if everybody would support mothers, like gatherer-hunters do. Friedrich Engels, the well-known theoretic of communism wrote about this. -The origins of marriage and private property- and put it to the test as well. He was living with two sisters. Married one of them.

When people start to cultivate the land or start herding animals, they initiate some kind of marriage too. (Polyandry is practiced only when the village has less then 400 inhabitants.) They have customs that the industrialized world calls barbaric. Not without reason. For example when they ceremonially inaugurate the young ones to adulthood, they physically and emotionally traumatize them. (Crazy society needs crazy members) Mutilation of sexual organs, tattooing, skin scarring, severe beating, isolation, telling them about secrets, taboos, behavior code, etc.

In the industrial societies we do this voluntarily and privately without knowing it. Circumcision, mutilations, tattooing, piercings, severe beating, isolation, secrets, taboos (like children’s sexuality), behavior code, etc. Additionally we suffer because we try improve our genes, in a society where it is not strictly prohibited, but not well-regarded either.  Separation, divorcement, rejection, unkind words,(“dirty old man, what does he want from that girl?” “Ugly old woman, she would not mind." “Aren’t you ashame yourself being married?” “You don’t think about your children?”...) making each other believe, we love o fancy them in waiting games without an end, violation etc.  In Sweden the chance a women get violated in lifetime is 50%. In many third-world countries it is worse. Many cases remain unreported.
In my unpublished book I explained how the  almost generalized suppression of females came to exist across cultures, but it doesn’t belong closely to the topic of the present work.

Moses, the famous “actor-pastor” probably had very good genes. He put more weight on progress, and technology, than on telling people the whole truth. He commanded ”don’t kill" but he did so with his own hands, when still young and honest. Nice story, you can read it in the Bible if you didn’t do so already :) Soon we will all get a number, or brand or chip under our skin to be able to keep buying, selling and marrying. In the Vatican, in Sweden, and in the United States, they are already doing it. Personally I would take that chip or bullet in my forehead, if that is what serves progress.

You can print, send,or link this letter how you like it.
To say goodbye, I put the words that I heard yesterday morning before waking up:"This is a rubbish world. Only good for rubbish people”

Jozsef Viragh 21. 05. 2015  Nerja

Personals / Re: The Netherlands
« on: January 29, 2015, 04:17:55 am »
Hello friends, im Jozsef a hungarian living in souther Spain.(my spelling is not brillient.
Im a 95% rawfoodist for 20 years now enyojing meat too. I live in a community I started 5 years ago. We recive many visitors but unfortunatly they are mostly vegans, or people they just want  cheap holydays on the coast. We hav avocados cherimoyas and nispero in abundance and bay meat from lokal shepards. No webside currently because trable with vegan community members. Some instinktos use to visit from germany and france. Othervise i hav to deal with peopel who belive in bretharianism and similar. Well, they are mostly jung and interested more en musik and fun then antropology.There is one more permanent member who eats meat and one enyojing fish sometimes. So anyone want to visit we charge 5 euros a day.  We have caves, but also houses. Thanki well

I would like to do something similar, but i think rainforest is too inhospitabel. 5 traumatised screeming children are here. No mother trast give them raw animal produckts, even the leeding spanish antropologist Arsuaga wrote in his book about nutrition that cooking meat doesnt improoves it any way. He finished that book with the words- yes our ansestors was sitting in circel but was no fire in the midle. " En Atapuerca they didnt used fire in 800000 year. Nevertheless I cook ones a week similar how Benando Lapallo (112?) recommends it. The Nenet at polar cirkel eat cooked and raw animal produckts.......  There is a guy with me 3 years i think he would take the risk to walk in savanna too. But we needed more people.

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 20, 2013, 02:17:39 am »
So, if you visit Europe, you know one more place to stay...

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 18, 2013, 02:53:25 am »
Or even smaller?

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 18, 2013, 02:48:42 am »
Well, it's still too big!
Let's try this one?

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 18, 2013, 02:39:09 am »
Let's see, if this one is accepted!?

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Wild foods
« on: December 10, 2013, 05:36:26 am »
Cherimoya. We feed that dog.She likes cherimoya skin.
I  ate ones a dead frag -my girl started to runn
A lesard from mouse trap.ok.
Gras huppers. Ok.
Rat, dog, snail not ok. Snaik ( has long liver) donky, very good. Seegal, very strong taste.Fasan in springtime when they eat much grase and insekts. Not very good..

I would rather try the savanna in afrika sometimes naxt jear with a strong group of people, just with stiks in hand, waching woltures flight and finding bones, and trying to get meat eventuely as well. I dont know if leons,hienas etz. would dear to attack. There are still quite wild hadzas in Tanzania, we could learn from them. They eat raw meat as well. I wonder if some coked food doesnt appoort esencial inorganik minerals, in earias where there is no salt for instance.
But cooked food is unfortunatly addicktiv, and that made the unfortunat human history in tha last 10-15 tausand years. The amasonian indians dont know that. Someone should tell them. :*)

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Wild foods
« on: December 08, 2013, 03:07:33 pm »
Well,I ate ones some tiks (garrapata in spanish)from my neughbor's dog, that is wild isnt it?

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Wild foods
« on: December 08, 2013, 02:58:01 pm »
Wild avocados, wild mangos, wild cherimoya from my land, wild grase i will when i hav a good juiser.

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 08, 2013, 05:41:49 am »
Hi, we hav a good photograph with us, but he is just about to learn how to reduce the size of photos. Tomorrow an insect eating raw bookwriter will arive. Do u live in spain?

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 03, 2013, 06:43:46 pm »
Rudimentary? Not so much any more. We have houses,hot shower
 landrower, bus,car, bikes, surfboards, internet.

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 02, 2013, 12:16:06 pm »
Hello, thanks. First a detaiI. I sell the cherimoyas to a big bio food provider in europe. Around 10 kg falls to the floor every day, but not enough for us to eat. (some guys get the cherimoya fever. First symptom  is a white nose :P ) So I bought all the fallen fruits from a neighbour for 20 euros as well.
To the question. The austrian author Angelika Fisher is a friend of mine. She wrote about us on her busy forum www// twise, and Maanhard  has been organising  raw vegan rainbow-gatherings for  many years, and he has it on his site too.
I'm not great on the computer, I would appreciate if someone would help spreading our link. Not that we need so many visitors, but some experienced ones  would be nice.

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Raw Foodist Retreat in Spain
« on: December 01, 2013, 06:21:26 am »
Hi friends, hi-hi  :D. I'm Jozsef the Hungarian who started this project. It seems to work somehow. At the moment we are 11 visitors included. 3 of us are eathing meat as well. I ate a dead sneak last year that is true, the other day I ate a rat, 2 vegans were said "u think we are scared? The fear was smelling funny but the taste was all right. Also a short while ago I ate 5 baby papis brain. Easy operation, u put a knife and hammer it.
I turned my German friend, who is runing the project with me eathing meat.Ones we ate a sick wild boar, and fell sick afterwards....
 I feed two free range eggs layer hens with wheat, and eat supermarket inorganic meat . Hunter gatherers had always disgusting eathing habits in eye of sedentary people, so I dont think I'm a freak just an foodoportunist with healthy appetite.
Today I was making a teras in front of one of our cave. Tomorrow I will build a big glas window in an other one.
I needed  english and spanish speaking non vegan folk to contrabalaince the germans. Some raw vegans are doing well apparently on long as well, but most of them become weak, that is my experience.
So, everybody is wellcome ;)

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