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I've done some reading and I'm intrigued by the nutritional ketogenic diet, raw meat (zero carb) diet, and raw animal food diet principles, and want to combine them into an easy modern "very low carb animal food diet."

My plan is to get the benefits of being in nutritional ketosis, the benefits on digestion of eating less food mass because animal protein/fat is of higher quality and contains less fiber than plant foods, and the benefits of course of eating raw high quality bacteria-rich foods.

For this I am thinking of eating only high-quality organic/free range raw egg yolks (just the yolk, not the sac or the white), about 24 a day. Then I would eat about 13 oz of raw grass-fed grass-finished beef which is a 80/20 lean/fat grind, and every other day eat 1 raw wild caught atlantic salmon fillet and back off on the yolks some (the fattiest brand I can find which fits the wild caught parameter). On top of this I would also drink spring water as desired along with real sea salt (from ancient oceans which contains small amounts of calcium and potassium naturally) especially if I exercise, to act as a kind of electrolyte replenishing drink. All of the animal food would be divided into about 5 meals a day at first, working up gradually into 2-3 meals a day as my body learns to handle it.

The only major sources of carbs on such a diet would be the egg yolks, which contain 0.6 g of carbs per yolk, eating 24 yolks a day as my upper limit would put me at around 14.4 g of carbs per day, and whatever minute quantities I absorb from the raw beef and salmon. Still, that should keep me below 30 g of net carbs a day to remain in ketosis.

I'm waiting on a shipment of the beef to get here before I start, does anyone see anything wrong with my plan or something I'm missing?


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Is there any reason that soaking raw organs/meat in a hydrochloric acid solution before ingesting (stronger than our stomach acid, like a carnivores stomach) to kill any parasites would not work? (obviously, neutralizing the soaked organs/meat with an alkaline solution afterwards so that you don't burn your tongue/throat)

I know the parasite thing is over-hyped, but it would just put my mind at ease that much more. There must be something I'm missing though as I haven't heard of anyone doing this yet.

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General Discussion / The Ideal Computer Posture / Chair
« on: February 23, 2014, 01:06:01 pm »
I know this post seems simple, but the benefits are profound for anyone who uses a computer regularly.

Using computers for long periods keeps us in a relatively fixed position, causing strain on our bodies. Our bodies were meant to be in a dynamic state, even when standing we naturally shift positions. When sleeping, if sleeping on a natural surface such as napping outside in the grass on a perfect-weather day, we naturally shift positions during sleep. Walking is one of the most dynamic and natural positions for us, and many people can actually walk at a slow pace longer than they can sit up straight. Even when they can't walk any more, it's usually because of foot pain due to our modern footwear and modern surfaces rather than due to back pain.

This is all because sitting up straight is a relatively static position, even if your top half is swaying back and forth, your legs may not be, etc. The ideal computer position is one which puts you in a dynamic state without causing you to be unbalanced. Consider a large inflated air ball as a chair for example, while it seems these might be good for the back by making you sit up straight all of the time, they are really confining your waist to very limited movement, and same for upper thighs, which is where most of the strain is being put due to no back support or movement.

While not as good as walking, the ideal position to be in while working on a computer isn't standing either, because even standing is not enough movement. Even walking in a fixed direction on a treadmill desk is not ideal, because of several subtle reasons (the walking speed of treadmills is fixed and unnatural, manual treadmills are too effort-intense, automatic treadmills also are very confined which is not true natural walking movements, and also the flat surface is bad) and starting and stopping the treadmill every 10 seconds or so is not practical. Therefore, the ideal computer posture/chair, is a rocking chair which has all hard surfaces, like this one:

NOTE: this is not the one I use, I have never used it, and don't recommend it, it is just an image to give you an idea.



The rocking mechanism allows you to easily shift your weight and release pressure on static buildup points on your body. This can be instantaneously started/stopped by rocking with no conscious effort and so it is practical. The hard surface is necessary because it allows your body to be aware of the surface and therefore erect properly (as opposed to a cushion) as well as not constricting around the thighs/waist restricting movement, like a cushion does. When rocking on a slick hard surface, you actually move slightly back and forth in the seat naturally, which is good.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the rocking motion isn't actually the goal, the idea is to lean forward and hold that position as is natural when you use the mouse or keyboard, lean back when reading a line of text, move forward a little just to subconsciously adjust, all spread out over seconds or even minutes. It's not supposed to be an exercise - the purpose of the rocking range of motion is to allow you to shift your center of gravity off of the set of bones and muscles which are stressed due to prolonged static pressure.

Note: Rocking chairs such as the one in the picture are also not confined to one range of movement, as it's also easy to move side to side in them, especially when leaning forward, generally though, the higher the arc of the rocker legs, the easier the movement. If you have very thick carpets or some floor material which prevents sliding of wooden rocker chair legs from turning side to side, consider getting a hard but slick computer floor mat placed underneath it.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Frogs
« on: December 30, 2013, 02:03:19 pm »
I am curious if anyone here eats raw frogs, and what kind of frogs are safe to eat raw (if any).
I particularly like the idea because in theory eating a whole frog gives you the whole package as we might have evolved on in nature - frog eyes, liver, skin, as well as ample muscles. There wouldn't be any need to mix raw cow liver with beef every now and then, you could just snack on tiny frogs all day long.

Seems it would also be pretty easy to breed them yourself if you wanted to, all you'd need is to dig out a pond and supply the initial population.

(I have never eaten a frog, maybe I am barking up the wrong tree..frog)

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Does anyone here eat only raw beef and the neighboring fat and raw organs? - No "partially cooked" raw beef half the time, no Oreo's on Sundays, no green vegetables, just raw beef and its fat/organs.

Theoretically I've been led to believe a human could sustain on just these things (and water). I am interested if it works for anyone.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Unprocessed beef cuts and organs?
« on: October 16, 2012, 01:56:29 pm »
Ok, I've never bought beef before and I finally found a place that sells grassfed cow (1.5 hours away). The only issue is that they don't do processing, they just sell you the unprocessed cuts as I'm told (which is a lot cheaper than processed I discovered). So my question is, if I'm going to be eating it raw, why should I process it in the first place? Can't I just store it in the freezer, use a knife and cut some away as I go?

Does unprocessed grassfed meat need to be frozen for any reason prior to thawing/consuming?

Keep in mind, I've never even seen unprocessed meat, so I may not even grasp the concept of how bad it would be to eat (maybe it's covered in blood?).
Also I foresee a problem of storage, since it would be hard to vacuum seal unprocessed meat due to the odd shape and I lack industral vacuum sealing equipment, so maybe that's why processing is a good idea.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / New here, various questions
« on: October 09, 2012, 08:24:34 pm »
Is 90% raw grassfed beef, 10% raw egg yolk considered groovy for this place? (I question because of the egg yolk)
I've spent the last 48 hours trying relentlessly to find a good source of raw beef (never had it before, never even bought supermarket beef before). US Wellness is always out of stock, imports from tasmania, slankers seems shady, and costs about $150 for a first shipment, plus would take 5-8 days to get here in Wisconsin. All of the wisconsin farms seem to only grass-fed seasonally, due to the weather, which is no good (I'm trying to get top quality). Can't afford anything better than ground.. but want to eat raw, so there's always going to be an E. Coli and parasite risk. Can't verify if the processing area/butcher is any good either, ordering online, it seems so hard.
So, what sources are you using?

Also, what benefits has everyone here had?
What negative effects?

My personal beliefs, for various reasons, are that these health markers are significant, and it would mean a lot to me if anyone could report the changes in these health markers they experienced while eating primarily raw meat:
Less time sleeping (less = better if waking state is alert and calm)
Better posture effortlessly (no slouching in chairs for example by default)
Slower breathing (as in, you breathe with your nose only compared to mouth, and have long pauses after exhale, where you might not have before the diet)
Faster wound healing
No acne/skin problems
Don't feel cold, even when other people do
Sleep with less blankets
Have no 'staining effect' when going to the bathroom

anyway, would be interesting to hear where you folks are at in regard to my little healthcheck  :)

and finally, does anyone here have any alternative methods to negate the dangers of raw beef besides:
cooking it at 160 deg even in a slow cooker, deep freezing it, storing it better, or dipping in alcohol?

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