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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: November 15, 2012, 10:26:47 pm »
i've done that for a while, putting just lugol's on brown spots, but also a mix of lugol's and 99% dmso (burns and itches quite a bit in certain places). the iodine as such won't be absorbed anymore after a while (or at least it will take very long for the spots to disappear, like several days) so i don't think that's going to help very much. didn't for me. i could have kept up with the lugol's+dmso experiment but i'm quickly getting bored with stuff if i don't get immediate results so i stopped it after three or four weeks. i think dmso+mms would be the best and fastest way but i haven't tried that yet. i'm afraid of the pain, haha

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 15, 2012, 10:19:10 pm »
dorothy, the book i read recently by dr d'adamo is called "change your genetic destiny". it's better than the blood type books because it incorporates other aspects of the body (other genes) as well. you can probably make an educated guess just from the measurements you take of your body and your previous experience with certain foods, without knowing your blood type. there's certainly a lot of stuff in there i don't agree with but you don't have to take his food recommendations to heart in order to gain other useful knowledge from the book.

a brief update re the acne problem. i had a flare up again a few days ago and decided yesterday to make a liver cleanse (last one was almost a year ago i believe) in order to see if it's caused by obstructed bile ducts but that doesn't seem to be the case. all that came out so far was plenty of bright green bile, not a single stone or any kind of grit. guess my gut flora hasn't healed yet and once the undigested protein fragments, immune complexes and whatnot have all been removed the acne will vanish, too. the lower back pain is pretty much gone already.

re vitamin k - the one for blood coagulation is vitamin k1 (found in green veggies etc.), the one weston a. price called "activator x" is vitamin k2, found exclusively in animal products (such as raw butter from grass fed animals, or liver) and fermented foods such as natto (best source for it afaik). so you don't get vitamin k2 from plants unless bacteria have produced it during fermentation. it's said to be very important to deliver calcium from the blood into the bones and works in concert with vitamins d and a.

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Hot Topics / Re: Is Alcohol good for us?
« on: November 15, 2012, 09:59:25 pm »
it's just like with fructose, a little a day may be ok (though hardly necessary or recommended) but if it gets more the damage will slowly accumulate. some well known doctor (lustig, i believe) called fructose "alcohol without the buzz" because it's metabolized by the liver just like alcohol and does the same damage there. only alcohol can do some damage elsewhere as well, like in the brain.

anyway, one reason why a little bit of alcohol may be beneficial for people consuming a standard diet is that while ethanol is in the body it gets metabolized preferentially over methanol. that way methanol (from canned fruits, fruit juices, tomatoes, black currants, smoked meats and fish, artificial sweeteners, etc.) may be excreted before it can get converted to formaldehyde and start methylating dna and nerve sheaths. that's much worse than the little damage from small amounts of ethanol, hence the benefits for people on unhealthy diets.

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: November 10, 2012, 07:12:59 pm »
Still no noticeable detox reactions from taking such large daily doses of iodine.  Makes me wonder why.  Most people seem to experience some sort of reaction - especially when they move to 100mg/day, but so far nothing of note in my case.  Maybe it is because I haven't eaten any bromated flour products for many years now and I've avoided fluoride in my water and toothpaste etc.  Flourides and bromides are the suspected culprits for most reported detox reactions.  Are these truly the cause?  I have no idea and no way to test the theory.  Just glad I'm not having any problems.

halides displace each other so the most likely causes for detox reactions are bromide and fluoride. halides are also very reactive so additional detox reactions could be if the iodine forms salts with any toxic elements and moves them into the blood.

It has been a bit over a month since I started this adventure.  I have noticed some positive changes to skin tone and texture as well as some lightening of brown age spots.  It is interesting that not all age spots are affected.  Some are definitely getting lighter in color while others have remained unchanged.  Could it be that there are several different types or causes for age spots where some are positively affected by iodine intake (or caused by a lack of iodine?) while others have a different root cause?  Unfortunately no way to tell.

it may depend on the kind of tissue and the location if the accumulations are removed more quickly or more slowly. after all, the accumulation doesn't always take the same amount of time either. if you want to experiement a bit you can try mixing iodine 50:50 with dmso and apply it topically to certain age spots. dmso carries everything deep into the tissue and the cells so if the iodine helps with removal that's the fastest way. i don't know if it's gonna work with iodine, though. people have used dmso+mms successully for stuff like moles or certain growths but if used with mms it has to be removed after 2-3 minutes or the skin gets severely damaged. mms is much more aggressive than iodine but it's a sure, if somewhat painful, way to get rid of unsightly skin growths. they'll get pretty much burned out and then the skin can heal. otherwise the body would just leave the damaged/overgrown cells in place and continue to ignore them or add more crap, same as with age spots.

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 10, 2012, 06:33:02 pm »
dorothy, of course you're right. even though it was three days, not just one, it's a very short period to draw any conclusions. nevertheless i can't deny that i noticed obvious improvements, especially where the acne is concerned, a mere 2-3 days after going off the raw meat. my skin has since cleared up and the dark circles under my eyes have become much less pronounced.

during the last few days i've taken the time and looked a bit deeper into the blood-/genotype discussion and while many people and scientists have tried to debunk it their arguments don't convince me, especially in light of my own (immediate) experiences and the overwhelmingly positive reports of many others.

also, the science behind the genotype theory makes sense to me, how certain metabolic, immune or endocrine genes/conditions express themselves together with certain physical traits and blood types.

imo there's still a lot to be learned re the different types, and the recommendations of dr. d'adamo don't always make sense to me based on what i've read elsewhere. for instance, he seems to be a stout believer of the myth that saturated fat causes arteriosclerosis, and even recommends to type O (the red meat eaters) to focus on lean cuts, but from what i've learned i can't even imagine how such a thing would be possible since saturated fats basically raise hdl and the large type of ldl, while it is clearly carbs, especially fructose, that raise triglycerides, vldl and the small ldl type - and these are the threats to cardiovascular health. so there are certainly flaws in his reasoning and no doubt many of his recommendations are not based on adverse lectin reactions but his faulty beliefs regarding fats.

so anyway, i'm going to try a modified genotype diet now. it will still be low-carb, without fruit or any source of fructose, and with focus on veggies (both raw and steamed) and fish, and as for dairy products it will only include raw butter. so i'm going to drop all other dairy products as well, like some people here on the forum recommended. no more kefir, yogurt or cheese for a month or so at least. maybe i'll try to reintroduce kefir, yogurt or whey protein again at some point just to see if i get any adverse reactions but for now i'll try to limit my food choices to cooked fish, steamed broccoli or cauliflower, raw sauerkraut, raw salads (w/o tomatoes), flax oil, raw butter and perhaps the occasional walnut. no point in complicating matters with lots of different foods if 10 or 15 different varieties suffice. thanks to my exceptionally low metabolism i'm unlikely to experience any hunger or weight-loss even with such a limited fat and protein intake and almost no carbs, and if it doesn't work i'll just increase the amount of fish. i'll notice soon enough if my strength from one workout to the next no longer increases.

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 08, 2012, 11:36:49 pm »
ok, here's an update.

i stopped eating raw meat three days ago but continued with everything else (kefir, yogurt, raw butter etc.) as usual. yesterday morning my throat was clogged with mucus and hurt somewhat, which has continued through today. i'd say it's a developing cold but usually colds get worse after a day or two and include a clogged nose and perhaps a cough. i have none of these things and it doesn't seem to get worse either. my theory would be that it's a detox reaction. i believe it's not uncommon to detox in this fashion.

the acne is also getting better, no new outbreaks of any kind, skin is clearing up nicely. lower back pain has gotten better, too. i used to notice it after sitting a long time on the pc and then getting up and by now it's become much less noticable. guess it will be gone completely in another few days.

i'm currently reading one of dr. d'adamo's latest books which deals with 6 geno-types and the diets he has developed for them. for those who don't know it - there are certain genes which are expressed together, such as the yellow coat and obesity in agouti mice. it's the same with humans. for instance, the blood type, or the length of certain fingers, or other body parts, or finger prints, express together with certain aspects of metabolism. an example would be high stomach acid and blood type O or low stomach acid and blood type A. this can be expanded to the immune system, endocrine system etc. it's very interesting.

now, dr. d'adamo has identified 6 different types who all have differences in metabolism and so on which correlate to differences in appearance. i've made the test, which says i'm the "teacher" type, and what he describes as main issues for the teacher type and what these types should eat is uncannily similar to what i experienced myself.

anyway, he writes that "teacher" genotypes should avoid all kinds of red meat. my guess would be that because of the low stomach acid it's very hard to digest and the undigested protein causes problems - exactly what i experienced when i ate raw beef daily. it was much less pronounced when i ate it cooked, most likely because of what i wrote previously - the protein got denatured, formed AGEs and thus wasn't able to wreak as much havoc in my guts as in its raw form.

now, what he recommends for "teacher" types is certain kinds of fish, veggies, fruits, nuts and seeds, certain grains (except wheat), fermented dairy products and soy. i'm probably not going to try soy or grains and i know for a fact that fruits don't do me good because of bacterial overgrowth. interestingly enough, he mentioned just this as the major problem of "teacher" types, bacterial overgrowth. maybe he's not aware that bacteria or yeasts thrive on sugar, especially fructose.

well, i guess what i want to say is that if you have any kind of problem and can't figure out the reason don't dismiss the blood type or geno-type diet without trying it. i'm going to follow it for a while, with some alterations, and will post some updates in the journals occasionally.

imo, the main reason why people have so many problems when they try to eat healthy is because they think that raw foods are better. that may well be the case if you can digest them properly and you don't have any intolerances to them, but if you do, they'll do much more harm if raw compared to cooked, and the reason is lectins and similar compounds. i'd not have believed it before but even such things as dark circles under the eyes seem to be, in my case and probably that of others, a telltale sign of incompatibility to certain raw foods. they disappear if i limit raw food intake and get the bulk of my calories from cooked food. one major exception to this may be fat, simply because it doesn't contain protein which can cause trouble, but in general i'd say that "teacher" types such as myself will always have problems if too much food is eaten raw because of the low stomach acid and possibly other "disorders" that go along with it.

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 07, 2012, 01:07:03 am »
dorothy, thanks for your comment. i'll definitely keep an open mind but as you can see in my previous post, it could very well be the case that while raw food is indeed the most healthy, it can also be the most detrimental if one is incompatible to it. for me my explanation makes sense. i'd like to know how others think about it.

as regards the amount of raw vs cooked meat, i've considered this too because the raw meat protein would be undenatured and thus more bioavailable but i'm already consuming much less than most others here. i believe it would just reduce the negative effects but not prevent them.

as for eggs, i've tried raw eggs and had similar but even more immediate reactions to them as far as acne goes. apparently my body tries to detoxify unwanted animal protein complexes mainly via the skin, be it eggs, meat or perhaps even dairy.

i'll keep eating butter for the time being because the coconut oil experiment didn't turn out too well either, and because i can't stand the taste of avocados or olives. as far as raw food goes, i guess i'll just have to try some of the foods the blood type doctor recommends for type A, ignoring the obviously unhealthy ones such as grains or soy, and see how that works. i'd like to keep eating low carb but under these conditions and provided i stay 100% raw it will be almost impossible to not raise the amount of carbs to, imo, unhealthy levels. type B or O don't have these problems on a raw paleo or a primal diet, they can either up their dairy  (B) or meat intake (O) but type A just doesn't seem to be suited to either one. i could try fish but since our oceans are deliberately being poisoned that would create other problems in the long run (mercury, radiation, bpa, xenoestrogens,...)

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 07, 2012, 12:39:26 am »
one possibility could be that the AGEs that are formed during cooking are actually these lectins binding to glucose receptors in cells, thus getting inactivated. however, if eaten raw and there's some incompatibility with the blood type, the meat lectins would all still be there to attach to glucose receptors in the gut lining (which exist in a form that allows binding only with certain blood types such as A), destroying it, making it leaky, creating inflammation and so on, which then creates further problems elsewhere, not unlike gluten. any ideas on this?

i've thought a bit more about the above. maybe someone can comment on this and lmk if i'm right or wrong:

- when sugar molecules bind to protein molecules in cell walls in an unwanted fashion (without the help of enzymes - called glycation) this creates AGEs
- lectins are proteins that bind to sugar molecules in cell walls (let's call it "lectination" for sake of argument), creating a similar end result - AGEs
- AGEs are formed when food is heated
- lectins are (partially or mostly) inactivated when food is heated
- so the reason for the creation of AGEs by heating food, meat in this case, is that lectins bind to sugar molecules in cell walls, since there's no actual sugar in meat (except as glycogen in muscle meat or liver but as mentioned before the end result is the same anyway)
- most, if not all, people don't experience acute reactions to heated foods, even if incompatible to their blood type
- most, if not all, people experience chronic symptoms / degeneration / inflammation after long-term exposure to foods that are incompatible to their blood type (a good example would be gluten which is more or less harmful for every human)
- many people experience more or less acute reactions if food that's incompatible to their blood type is eaten raw (some might call it allergic reactions)
- conclusion: the reason why wrong foods that are heated only create problems after long-term exposure is because most lectins are inactivated outside the body, during the heating process. that forms AGEs which are certainly harmful in excess and in the long run but prevents "lectination" in the gut

bottom line is that, unless one eats only raw foods that are compatible with one's blood type, it's better to eat incompatible foods heated, where most of the lectins are already deactivated before ingestion, instead of eating these foods raw where all the lectins are still active and create havoc with the intestinal lining. in my case (blood type A) this would explain why i react with acne and possibly kidney problems to raw meat but not to cooked meat.

case in point, doesn't aajonus eat raw honey together with raw butter or eggs or milk or something? maybe there are sugar molecules in honey to which most of the lectins in these protein foods can bind, thus getting inactivated. this would reduce the damage to the gut lining considerably.

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 06, 2012, 10:41:54 pm »
dorothy, i'm eating a primal diet right now. i started with cooked meat 5 months ago and went all raw about 6 weeks ago. the acne and back pain problems started about 2 or 3 weeks into the raw phase. during the months prior to it when i cooked the meat i didn't have these problems, most likely because most of these lectins got denatured or whatever. during that time i was already drinking raw milk, though no kefir. based on the blood type theory that should have created more problems than kefir but didn't. of course i don't want to go back and eat cooked meat but maybe i really don't digest raw meat very well.

one possibility could be that the AGEs that are formed during cooking are actually these lectins binding to glucose receptors in cells, thus getting inactivated. however, if eaten raw and there's some incompatibility with the blood type, the meat lectins would all still be there to attach to glucose receptors in the gut lining (which exist in a form that allows binding only with certain blood types such as A), destroying it, making it leaky, creating inflammation and so on, which then creates further problems elsewhere, not unlike gluten. any ideas on this?

in terms of fat i'm currently limited to butter (a no no according to the blood type diet, who would have thought?), flax oil and the little fat that's on the beef. i don't eat fatty/organ meats right now because i can't find any raw grass fed ones here in germany (hence my question to löwenherz). all i can order online is muscle meat or liver. i've asked butchers around here if they sell organs when hunters bring in their game but was told that usually they keep the organs for themselves and, if anything, sell some of the meat.

i've tried to buy indican test strips online but couldn't find any. that test would indicate if i don't digest animal proteins properly. maybe i can get some from a doctor, otherwise elimination seems to be the only way to find out what's up. i'm actually doing very well on the primal diet. i have no apparent digestive problems and my muscles keep increasing in size and strength at a nice rate but as long as these two problems (well, and dark circles under the eyes) exist there's still work to be done. i really thought raw paleo would finally be the right diet for me but it looks like i have to keep experimenting.

tyler, thanks for the links! i'm going to check them out now. i really hope you're right and he's wrong  ;D

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 06, 2012, 06:34:04 pm »
here are two links to peter d'adamo's site. according to this i should be able to keep the kefir but have to elimiante the meat.

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?212 (kefir - NEUTRAL)

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?469 (beef - AVOID: Secretory insufficiency. Induces dysbiosis. Increases polyamine or indican levels. Inhibits proper gastric function or blocks assimilation.)

tyler, i don't know your blood type but based on d'adamo's research and your problems with dairy i'd say you're type O. is that right?

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 06, 2012, 06:24:16 pm »
re my protein intake - usually i eat about 300g lean meat (beef or wild game) in the evening + 250g jogurt and during the day a liter kefir and perhaps 50g raw butter. i'd say that's approx. 75g protein from the meat and 45g protein from the dairy products - total 120g. my current weight is 70kg with about 20% body fat so lean weight 56kg which means about 56g protein/day would be ideal.

my job is mostly office work but i'm doing hit (resistance) and hiit (sprint 8 ) exercise in turns every 2-3 days, usually 20min workouts so i'm reasonably "active". despite that my metabolism is very low (i don't have hypothyroidism, low basal temp or anything) and i'm almost never hungry except maybe after a full day w/o food. i guess that's one of the few leftover benefits from my raw vegan days, i last a long time with little food.

the book "primal body, primal mind" has been recommended by several people here and i agree, it's probably the most comprehensive book about nutrition available right now. the author insists that protein intake should be moderate (like 1g/kg body weight) so as not to activate the mtor pathway, which would basically force cells to replicate instead of merely making repairs (ori hofmekler also wrote about this and explains it in interviews). since cells can't replicate indefinitely what this means is that a high protein intake shortens the lifespan of your cells and thus your body. that's probably the reason why "starvation diets" are said to expand lifespans such as when rats that were fed only 50% lived almost twice as long as those who could eat as much as they wanted.

anyway, i've just read one of peter d'adamo's bloodtype diet books and i'm going to try two things in the coming weeks. one is eliminating the dairy products and the other is eliminating the raw meat. he claims that blood type A should not eat meat and only fermented dairy products. i'm trying to find out if that's true because i need to get rid of two issues which have developed only after i started eating raw meat and drinking kefir (unfortunately i started both almost simultaneously) - a minor (but apparently increasing) case of acne and occasional lower back pain which i think comes from overtaxed kidneys. if dr. d'adamo is right and the lectins in either dairy or meat (or both) agglutinate in type A blood i should notice improvement of both conditions upon eliminating either one or the other food (or both if the kidneys and skin don't improve unless i drop both). if he's indeed right i guess i have a problem because apart from these two minor (so far) problems i feel much better, stronger and more energized than on a vegetarian diet and can't imagine going back. there has to be another way.

if any type A has had similar problems and found a solution please post it!

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well, i don't believe it. according to studies sperm counts have decreased by 50% during the last few decades and infertility has skyrocketed but humans have been drinking milk since thousands of years. i don't even believe that pasteurization or homogenization might be the problem.

if they could have taken out all other possible culprits like xeno-estrogens in plastic, phyto-estrogens in soy and whatnot, or EMFs, microwaves and cell phone radiation then i'd say ok, dairy is the problem, but there are so many things in today's environment and diet that can cause infertility that blaming it on dairy products seems like an excuse.

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General Discussion / Re: Can we do without vegetables/greens?
« on: November 06, 2012, 03:05:40 am »
i agree with löwenherz about the fruit issue. during my two years on a mostly raw vegan/vegetarian diet i've eaten about 6-8 servings of fruit per day which is not much more than what many consider "healthy" and i'm sure it would have ruined my health if i hadn't switched to (raw) paleo earlier this year.

one thing i noticed was that i got a lot of moles but at the time had no idea they were a result of the sugar from fruits (the fructose content, most likely) - AGEs that are visible and which i hope will eventually fade or perhaps disappear altogether again.

during summer i've still eaten fruit, a serving of berries from my garden each day, but at the moment i don't consume any fruits, or anything sweet for that matter, and i don't feel that i need it.

nevertheless it seems that a limited amount of raw or fermented veggies is good for me. i eat about 300-400g sauerkraut every day and the occasional salad with lettuce, cucumber, 1-2 carrots, onion, feta cheese, flax oil and spices. no tomatoes or other nightshade plants, though, because of the lectins and other antinutrients.

i feel good on this diet but i don't know if i'm ever in ketosis. i don't really consume any carbs except the small amount that's left in the aforementioned veggies and perhaps in kefir but i'm probably eating too much protein for my own good (about 100-120g/day) and afaik 58% of all protein is metabolized into glucose, always, which would disrupt ketosis as surely as carbs, just a little later.

i have a request. could those of you who have found their ideal diet please describe it briefly and include their blood type? i'm type A and it's said that those with bloodtype A do best on a vegetarian diet but shouldn't consume dairy. well, that's almost vegan and that didn't work for me. i'm concerned about milk/kefir and would like to know if there are others with type A who do well with dairy in their diet or not at all. supposedly there are certain proteins in milk that are similar to bloodtype B and cause blood clotting in type A. don't know if there's any truth in this but i'm curious.

@löwenherz - do you know any sources in germany where i can buy grass-fed organ meats and glands? apart from liver i've had no luck so far.

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General Discussion / Re: What's Wrong With The Primal Diet and Paleo Diet
« on: November 01, 2012, 09:05:18 pm »
Hmm, no information about atherosclerosis.

I would like to find out if raw saturated animals fats can cause atherosclerosis or not. The Masai had lots of atherosclerosis, according to some reports. Have they eaten raw fats or cooked fats? Who knows..

Löwenherz

i can't cite studies but since saturated fats raise hdl and lower triglycerides i'd say it's pretty sure that saturated fats do not cause atherosclerosis. afaik the main causes for atherosclerosis are sugar, especially fructose because it raises triglyceride levels (and by extension raises vldl and ldl), and omega 6 fatty acids (coming mostly from plants or grain fed animals) which promote prostaglandin 2 synthesis which triggers inflammation.

according to the studies i've read about the masai they have some of the lowest cholesterol levels of any tribes on the planet, somewhere in the region of 125mg/dl. i'm no doctor but since they consume mostly animal foods that would indicate to me a very low inflammation level and low to no atherosclerosis risk, at least in terms of fat consumption. they do seem to consume inordinate amounts of calcium from milk, however, so that might be the actual problem that causes the hardening of the arteries.

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General Discussion / Re: Carbs and Spots (Acne)
« on: November 01, 2012, 08:44:59 pm »
i used to get light acne when i still consumed fruits (especially citrus fruits) but nowadays it still seems to be triggered occasionally if i eat too much protein. "too much" in my case is not a lot, however. for some reason my immune system reacts to foreign proteins this way, though not through any kind of allergic reaction, just the occasional pimple in the head area. in terms of protein i drink only about 1 liter kefir during the day and eat about 250g raw meat and 250g jogurt in the evening so it's not all that much. it could be the milk or it could be the raw meat (i already dropped raw eggs since they definitely made it worse) but if i drop the milk and meat as well i'll have to become a breatharian  ;D

i'll try the zinc supplement, though. i take 15mg occasionally but i never checked if there's any correlation between zinc intake and acne outbreak.

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Health / Re: Enzymes
« on: October 23, 2012, 09:25:13 pm »
Has anyone ever found a scientific article or reference that verifies that enzymes present in the food help to digest food in the upper stomach without being denatured by hydrochloric acid? Tbh, until reading the above article, I had never before encountered any reference to different parts of the human stomach as having different functions and conditions.

i have three books about enzymes and all are recommended:

http://www.amazon.com/Enzyme-Nutrition-Dr-Edward-Howell/dp/0895292211/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350997872&sr=8-1&keywords=enzyme+nutrition

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0981604552/ref=oh_details_o06_s01_i00

http://www.amazon.com/Enzymes-Fountain-Life-K-Miehlke/dp/1884303005/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1350998157&sr=8-3&keywords=enzymes+for+life

the 1st one has details on the digestion and is probably where the idea originates that food is predigested by enzymes in the upper stomach. the author is a scientist who researched enzymes for decades so he probably knows what he's talking about.

the 2nd book deals with probiotics but we know that it's these little critters that produce the enzymes which help to digest our food. it cites tons of research where probiotics helped to cure diseases and improve health.

the 3rd book talks specifically about enzyme therapy and explains that not only do enzymes work in the upper stomach but in the whole body, meaning they don't get destroyed by stomach acid (or not all of them, anyway). that has been proven because oral enzyme therapy works.

enzymes are the secret of life - anything that delivers enzymes into our body or helps to produce enzymes in the digestive system helps the body to spare its own enzymes and prolongs life. the more enzymes the body itself has to produce, the ealier you get sick and die.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Whats your view on Raw Honey
« on: October 23, 2012, 09:07:17 pm »
My daughter is a Type 1 diabetic. She tests BG all day, every day. There are 2 kinds of carbs - fast-acting carbs and slow acting carbs. The only slow acting carb foods are non-starchy vegetables. You will get a spike with any other carb food, whether it be fruit (including berries), honey, whole grains, starchy vegetables, or any other kind of sugar or carb. Eating carbs with fat does not prevent the spike. The body is very efficient at turning carbs into glucose. Even non-starchy vegetables will raise the BG, but it won't spike. Actually, even protein is turned into glucose by the body and will raise BG levels, though much more slowly. That is why you don't really need to eat carbs at all. The body will make what it needs from the protein. It is the spike (and the resulting insulin response) that causes damage to the body.

that's my view also. what's noticable is that even fruit creates an insulin spike although it is said that fructose does not raise insulin.

imo compared to the massive negative effects from the sugar honey can't possibly offer me enough benefits so i stay away from it. doesn't work with my low carb diet anyway and i don't crave sweet foods so what would be the point? i'm always reminded of "sugar - the bitter truth" when it comes to anything that contains fructose so common sense tells me to avoid it at all costs.

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Primal Diet / Re: Should I use milk?
« on: October 23, 2012, 08:48:37 pm »
Bad luck...! It's probably better to be, or to have become, intolerant to dairy. Of course, milk neither kill us immediately nor necessarily induce problems straight away: if our body is in a state of tolerance, it doesn't react and thus accumulates bit by bit some foreign proteins and other abnormal molecules instead of eliminating them. Severe health troubles may appear years and/or decades later.

But if you have nothing else to eat, it's certainly wiser to eat dairy rather than starve to death.   ;)

milk sure is controversial, but what i find interesting is how certain tribes who consume lots of raw milk, kefir and stuff are said to have an above average life span and few if any diseases. if (nonhuman) milk is so unhealthy and foreign proteins accumulate in the body, eventually causing all kinds of problems, why don't these people get sick and die earlier rather than later?

imo it has to do with the problems our own diet as newborns/babies and possibly that of our parents created, meaning the building of antibodies to certain antigenes in the milk. people whose bodies built these antibodies will react to milk antigenes during their whole live and these autoimmune reactions are what causes problems.

notwithstanding the above, i think we all agree that real milk is raw, and any heated "milk" from the supermarket is a toxin which will indeed always create problems eventually.

and if somebody doesn't have serious problems with raw milk, just some digestive issues (bloating, gas etc.), it's because the gut flora is not prepared for the lactose. if such a person would start with low doses of kefir for example, and increase them every day he/she would eventually notice that the digestive problems are completely gone because the gut is colonized with just the right bacteria to digest the lactose before it can reach the colon and there be fermented by other bacteria or yeasts which produce plenty of gas.

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: October 23, 2012, 08:26:41 pm »
Not sure how accurate any of this thinking is.  I've been monitoring my BG for the last couple of days and it has risen an average of about 10 points throughout the day.  Just had my labs completed before starting this iodine adventure and my fasting glucose was in the low 80s.  This year's labs were taken just before eating my daily meal which is why it was 10-15 points lower than other labs.  Normal morning fasting BG is usually right around 99-100, and BG stays around 100 most of the day except right before my daily meal at which point it drops 10 points or so, and then rises above 100 for a few hours directly after eating before dropping back to around 100 in the evening and stays there until the cycle starts over again.

Since PhilB suggested that I check BG a couple of days ago, with the expectation that it would probably drop a little, every time I've checked it over the last 2 days it has been 10 points or so higher than my previous normal. 

Evening of 10/9  - 113 mg/dl
Morning of 10/10 - 110 mg/dl
Evening of 10/10 -  111 mg/dl
Morning of 10/11 - 113/mg/dl

Can't say this is good or bad, only that this is what I'm measuring.

Lex

that's strange, i'd have expected it to do decrease. then again, the body knows best so perhaps more glucose is kept in the blood because the cells have become more receptive to it. that would certainly be a good thing. almost everyone notices increased energy after a few days of iodine supplementation, and that energy has to come from somewhere (increased metabolism > increased bg is my guess).

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Exercise / Bodybuilding / Re: Body by Science - 12 min workout a week
« on: October 19, 2012, 12:02:53 am »
i'm training in this fashion since earlier this year but i'm a noob so for me it's better to do a workout every 2-4 days instead of just once a week. if you've done weight training for years and can actually damage your muscles enough in one workout that they require a week of recovery then i'm sure once a week is fine but for me the results are currently better with about two workouts per week. i usually have one 20-30min hit resistance workout, then 3-4 days later a sprint 8 training (20min) for legs and cardio, and 2-3 days later resistance training again, followed by sprint 8. during resistance training i do the 5 compound exercises and a few smaller ones until i'm really wasted. so legs are trained every 2-4 days (once with weights and once with sprints). it's the largest muscles and give the highest growth hormone increase. imo it's better to have this hgh stimulation every few days as opposed to just once a week. if i reach a plateau at some point and can't increase weight or time under load anymore i'm going to expand the recovery phase but for now it works very well as described above.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Fermented Foods?
« on: October 18, 2012, 11:48:04 pm »
it's always good to start low with fermented foods (various kinds) and increase in quantity to prevent detox symptoms or general intestinal trouble. also, be patient. it may take a few months until digestive issues are completely gone (took about two months for me after two years vegetarian/vegan diet before i could properly digest larger amounts of meat again and got rid of candida overgrowth). you can help meat digestion with hcl+pepsin tablets in the beginning. as for the fermented foods (i recommend to start with sauerkraut and kefir besides the high meat), it will take some time until the beneficial bacteria displaced an overgrowth of harmful bacteria or yeasts (candida). until then it can always happen that plant foods keep fermenting in your guts and create various symptoms. in my experience it's better to not eat any fruits and generally very little in the way of carbs and fiber (besides things like sauerkraut) until the intestines are well colonized with good bacteria.

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i have some questions for the experts. hope you can help me.

assuming you store meat in a clean fridge that's turned off (or broken) in a cellar at, say, 12-15°C (54-59°F), which you open at regular intervals to get in fresh oxygen, how long does it keep? or perhaps i should ask, how long before it turns from regular meat into high meat or before it starts to smell?

and then, same setting but in a garage which may have up to about 25°C (77°F) during summer - the smell won't be much of an issue here but how long can it be stored and eaten as regular/aged meat in normal amounts of a pound or so (i understand high meat is usually eaten in smaller amounts. i haven't tried it myself yet so i don't know if the reason is its taste).

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: October 11, 2012, 08:32:12 pm »
I have been taking 6 drops of Lugol's 5% for 5 days now and I'm noticing that my blood glucose appears to be affected. Before the Lugol's, it would usually be in the mid to high 90's in the afternoon, well after two of my three meals (keto / no carbs / 60% fat / 40% protein). But for three days now it has been in the 70's, dipping down to 67 today afternoon (Europe time).

Based on your observations on modifying your fat to protein ratios, I had attributed my relatively high blood glucose to my relatively high protein intake. While obviously too early to say, I'm beginning to wonder if the iodine may be affecting the amount of protein my body is converting to glucose. Or, if it could be causing glucose to be used or otherwise taken from the blood, through increased insulin sensitivity, perhaps.

i'm pretty sure it reduces blood sugar because it a) increases insulin sensitivity (possibly) and b) increases metabolic rate so more sugar is burned or rather, the available sugar is burned faster (very likely).

this could be the reason why many overweight people lose weight simply by taking lugol's. obesity is often caused by a sluggish thyroid because that inevitably decreases metabolic rate.

also, since there supposedly are iodine receptors on all cells of the body and several or all glands require certain amounts of iodine to function properly, the cells may get more sensitive to glucose when iodine occupies its receptors instead of bromide or fluoride and the entire endocrine system may also benefit from the higher iodine intake. the hormones then could help to improve the use of blood glucose, among other things.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: made in germany
« on: October 09, 2012, 09:05:53 pm »
Cheese is typically very fatty (40-45% fat), unless you've been eating some really low fat cheese..

yes certainly but it was my only fatty food and only animal protein food at the time. my whole metabolism was adjusted to a high-carb plant-based diet with focus on fruits and consequently my liver didn't have to produce a lot of bile or get rid of excess cholesterol...until i introduced the cheese. then...bam...the excess cholesterol from the cheese may well have clogged the bile ducts (or the triglycerides from the excess fructose, who knows?). it may not have happened on a high fat diet like i'm eating now. i'll know that for sure after the next few liver flushes. if there are stones again i'll drop the raw cheese. raw milk, kefir and yogurt will be the last to go because that would leave only meat and veggies (i seem to be allergic to eggs and hardly ever eat fish because of toxins, heavy metals and/or radiation). i don't think i can limit my foraging to these two food groups so i really hope my liver will stay reasonably clean, especially now that i'm off the fruit-centered (fatty-liver creating) diet.

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: October 09, 2012, 08:35:12 pm »
Also did a patch test.  This is admittedly not very accurate, but does apparently show in a general way how well saturated your body is with iodine.  The theory is that if the patch disappears within 4 hours then you are highly deficient, if it lasts 4- 8 hours then you are high-moderate deficient, if it lasts 8-12 hours then you are moderately deficient, 12-18 hours light to moderately deficient, and 18-24 hours you are lightly deficient, and anything over 24 hours means your tissues are probably pretty saturated.  Some think this test is totally useless but I thought I'd try it anyway and see what happens.

based on my own observations i'd say the patch test may be an indicator of iodine deficiency but i'm not convinced. it definitely disappears faster if iodine has been absent in the diet and stays longer after iodine has been put on the skin daily for a week or longer (on top of supplementation). i tried it in the beginning and stopped the topical application when the stains were still visible after a day. when i apply iodine topically these days (usually just a small patch once a week where i place my b12 shot) the spot has almost disappeared after half a day. that could either mean my daily 25mg iodine dose is too low or that there's a difference between tissue saturation if iodine is only ingested or both ingested and applied topically.

btw, in the beginning i took about 100mg iodine every now and then after the bromide detox symptoms had ceased and didn't notice any adverse effects. i'm quite sure you can safely up your intake to 100mg since you didn't even detox anything when you started (which is very unusual from what i've read).

That's very interesting. Please tell us more about the positive outcome of your iodine supplementation. What have been the benefits?
Löwenherz

i didn't have many issues to begin with and supplemented iodine together with a host of other things so i can't really pinpoint any long term benefits. however, something that i definitely noticed was more energy and alertness after a day or two of supplementation and some bromide detox symptoms (skin rashes mostly which disappeared after 2-3 days). it may also have increased my basal temperature somewhat although during that time i was still in a vegetarian/vegan period (mostly raw) and consequently always a little frosty.

[...]Nevertheless the argumentation of the DGE somehow makes sense to me. They say that after eating very low levels of iodine for decades and generations as in some parts of the world our bodies have adapted to such low levels and that a sudden and very drastic increase causes problems.
Löwenherz

the only problems it can cause is detoxification. of that i'm 100% certain. when i started taking lugol's i watched all videos and read everything i found about iodine supplementation incl. lots of feedback from others and all of them improved because of the increased iodine intake. the problem is that bromide is really insidious, it's in certain foods, drinks, in flame retardants (carpets, new cars, mattresses, you name it) and it WILL accumulate in the body if our iodine intake is too low. for almost everyone that has been the case for years or decades. it causes lots of problems that almost no doctor or health practitioner would attribute to bromide poisoning because most of them don't even know that it's a common toxin and occupies the iodine receptors everywhere in the body. not to mention fluoride or the heavy metals iodine helps to detox. imo iodine is one of the most important supplements besides magnesium, vitamin d (at our latitudes) and perhaps krill oil.

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