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Journals / Re: Squall's Journal
« on: September 15, 2008, 11:14:05 pm »
I like the idea of a water-fast, which I'm assuming means that I can drink water. Should I also take some probiotics during the fast or should I just pass on that. Mind you, I've got none of that good EM stuff mentioned elsewhere. I have some decent stuff though that I've been happy with in the past.

One question regarding fasts: will I have to worry about hypoglycemia and low blood pressure? Will it come and then go once my body adjusts? Or will I be dealing with it the whole time? I still have to go to work and all and I'm already having a difficult enough time there these days.

Hot Topics / Re: Raw vegans vs. raw paleo
« on: September 15, 2008, 11:08:29 pm »
I went back and looked at the taxa for humans and primates, and you're right. For some reason I thought that being a homonid meant that a species wasn't a primate, but it turns out that a homonid is a type of primate.

Health / Re: bleeding gums
« on: September 15, 2008, 12:49:56 pm »

What's a biological dentist?


About how long after taking the shot did you begin to notice the libido pick up? And of course, where did you get a hold of pig blood?

I've read that, too. That's definitely a common theme on veg boards, and the mechanism they say is putrefaction of the meat in the intestines. But I've also heard that putrefaction doesn't occur with raw meats, just cooked, largely owing to the difficulty in digesting cooked foods. Maybe it just depends on the person?

Journals / Squall's Journal
« on: September 15, 2008, 09:40:27 am »
I figured I'd go ahead and start one of these. Never done it with diet-related forums, but then again I don't think I've ever had this much conviction about nutrition either.

My first order of meat (approximately 26 lbs.) won't arrive til later this week (Thursday maybe), so I'm unsure what to do until then. Then I'm unsure of what to do after I get the meat. Oh sure, I'll eat it, but I'm still trying to figure out how often; how much; which combinations of organs, meats, and fats; how much should be set aside for high meats, and what; etc.

So what do you guys think I should do til then? Fast? Follow a cooked paleo, low-carb regime? Cleanses?

Another thing I'd like to point out: some of these threads are freaking me out! People are talking about some serious transitional problems. I'd have to say that having to rush to the bathroom every 15 min. or so for a few weeks is going to cause some serious problems at work. Then there's all the talk about the heart palpitations and stuff. Heart problems scare me too. This is probably the first nutritional program that I've walked into not being completely optimistic. Which might be a good thing, since my other adventures contained too much optimism, often at the expense of realism. But anyway ...

One last issue: what's the deal with liver and carbs? Some people seem to keep saying eating liver is like eating carbs. What's the deal with this? I thought it was protein and fat?

General Discussion / Re: Liver Supplement
« on: September 15, 2008, 09:28:25 am »
Jack Lalanne use to take 50 liver capsules a day, still does i believe.

Is that the juice guy?

Hot Topics / Re: Raw vegans vs. raw paleo
« on: September 15, 2008, 09:14:23 am »
My view on diet now is just go with what is 'natural' and adapt.  I look to nature for my answers.

I would have to second this. Whatever we were doing for millions of years on a regular basis is probably the best blueprint we'll ever get from Mama Nature. I used to argue with my friends regarding what humans are supposed to eat. I said meat (but cooked). One of my buddies said veggies. I had to disagree on the basis of economics: a community of northern-European hunter gatherers would not spend all winter long looking for sparse vegetation to eat when they could make one large kill and live off the fat and meat for months. I read another dude's article online once and he was making the case for human consumption of nothing but fruit. His rationale was because gorillas do it and they're the strongest primate in the world. Talk about logical fallacies! We're not gorillas, and we're not even primates.

IMO, anthropologists play a critical role in nutritional ground-breaking (re-breaking?). However, so few get their due, and only the ones who tow the party line get written into school textbooks. I look to their theories, though, as a guide to how best to live a healthy life.

Do you guys feel that your body "odor" is less or non-existent since your dietary changes? I love the weekends because I can get away with not wearing deodorant, but at work that could get awkward, so I spread on the aluminum stuff ... but as lightly as possible these days. I used to use the Tom's stuff, but it seemed more annoying and messy, not to mention almost ineffective for my needs. Then again, I've been eating trash for the last 28 years, too. Was hoping that once I've done the more natural thing for long enough, I might not even need deodorant.

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Dairy Dangers
« on: September 15, 2008, 08:30:41 am »
I doubt that video will be on You Tube much longer. I'm sure someone with fragile sensibilities will complain to the admins that they were offended by the woman's nipple or something! Yank ...

Concerning Price's book, I was surprised to find that although he was quick to point out that the isolated Inuit were some of the healthiest of the tribes he studied, he seemed to go to great lengths to not point out that they were in fact eating raw. The most he said about their diet was that it included organ meats. The only entry on actual preparation concerned the smoking of wild salmon. In fact, the smoked wild salmon was a recurring feature of the chapter if I recall correctly. I thought that was odd considering that his subjects' diet was so dependent on raw food. Kinda made me feel like there was some bias there; like he didn't actually want to come out and explicitly say: 'These people are healthy, and they eat lots of raw animal fat and meat.'

I also found the Swiss and their peculiar diet of rye and dairy kind of odd. Maybe they were super-adapted to the stuff?

Personals / Re: I want to meet a real, live RAF'er!
« on: September 14, 2008, 02:36:51 am »
Thanks for the effort!  ;D

Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Instincto Books
« on: September 13, 2008, 02:45:17 pm »
Bruno Comby was a friend of mine. Unfortunatly, he does not eat any more a raw food diet, but his books are quite interesting.

Why did Mr. Comby stop eating raw foods?

Instincto / Anopsology / Re: Explain INstincto Diet Fully
« on: September 13, 2008, 02:34:42 pm »
... eventually ended up in jail for sex with an underage girl(no doubt taking the rules re following one's instincts a bit too far).

You go to jail for this?!?  ;)

Primal Diet / Re: Questions from Newbie
« on: September 13, 2008, 10:00:47 am »
I heard from one Primal Dieter that Aajonus' list is not too extensive and most of the food-sources are far too expensive. Better to look for local sources using grassfed/organic food directories like to find contact details of nearby farms.

Second that. I actually got my list not too long ago. My biggest surprise is that most of the sources that were supposed to be near me were pretty far away. Only a few things were actually in Arizona (where I live). Took two months or more from time of payment too.

General Discussion / Re: Morphological(?) Considerations
« on: September 13, 2008, 04:53:25 am »
I think I have similar adrenal problems. Probably related to too much coffee and too much tobacco. And probably due to a SAD diet too, and stress. I'm looking forward to seeing some of those symptoms go bye-bye. Maybe even all!

General Discussion / Morphological(?) Considerations
« on: September 13, 2008, 03:23:10 am »
From most of what I've read over the past year or so, the majority of people who go raw paleo or primal or what not tend to notice some pretty marked changes in their body shape and makeup. It seems that most people lose fat around the abdomen and tend to gain mass on the upper body ... without exercise. Is this pretty common?

Also, most of the testimonials I've seen are from men. I know there are quite a few women pursuing this kind of lifestyle, but I don't hear much on how it affects there bodies. Is it similar to the way it affects men?

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

General Discussion / First Meat-by-Mail Order
« on: September 13, 2008, 03:16:46 am »
Hey I just placed my first order with Slankers. Their prices seem pretty decent considering the quality they claim. There high-quality grass-fed products are cheaper (even after shipping) than a lot of my local grocer's stuff.

Anyway, I'll be partaking of my first (raw) eating of suet, marrow, liver (pork and beef), and heart. I also threw in some ground goat, mainly because of the novelty value, lol. For some reason that sounds more odd to me than eating raw beef liver.

Welcoming Committee / Re: OUR 100th MEMBER, SQUALL - WELCOME
« on: September 12, 2008, 12:49:34 pm »
I'm guessing that "EM" means Effective Micro-organisms or something around there?

What's a good source for these, anyway. I know that they're pretty easy to get a hold of, but lots of stuff with questionable potency is I think. I'm thinking the local Whole Foods is not the place to go?

I remember when I first started looking into RAF I cam across this sight:

At first it talked about pets, but then he went off on human nutrition, eskimos, fermented meat, caribou intestines, and other stuff. Lots of raw talk. At some point I found links to probiotics, which the site was big on. Can't find any concrete links at the moment.

What did you guys use in your early phases if anything?

Personals / I want to meet a real, live RAF'er!
« on: September 11, 2008, 11:49:21 am »
I'm thinking that this personals area might be for relationship relationships, but I think I'm gonna just try and meet anyone near me, male, female, androgynous, etc. Plus my girlfriend might not like it I try to pick up paleo chicks online. Then again, she might ...

I live in the Phoenix, AZ area and I really want to meet some veteran RAF'ers. I keep reading about the good skin, clear eyes, stable disposition, lack of BO, etc. Yes, I'll want to smell you if I ever meet you face to face lol ... i think a clean natural smell is better than oils, perfumes, etc. I do like some perfumes, tho, and I'll readily admit that I'm kinda odd, but oh well.

Anyway, if any of you currently live (relatively) near me or will be passing through, I'd like to get together with you. Its hard trying to adopt such a radical lifestyle without a flesh-and-blood support structure. At least for me.

Welcoming Committee / Re: OUR 100th MEMBER, SQUALL - WELCOME
« on: September 11, 2008, 11:28:10 am »
Holy crap!

I've never had a welcome like that from joining a forum. I think this may be my favorite already.

Anyways, thx for the welcome. Here's a little bit about me:

I've been fooling around with RAF since last May. Unfortunately literature on eating cute animals raw is pretty lacking, so AV's two books were all I could find. Needless to say, raw dairy and honey and what not just don't work for me. Its cool if they work for others and I'm not gonna bash AV or anything, but I need something more I think. Plus I never could reconcile the hunter-gatherer diet with milking cows, aggravating bees, etc. I'm pretty sure our distant ancestors had better things to do lol.

I've had some major digestive issues that I believe have spilled over to other parts of my life since 2003. I went on deployment (navy) in that year and was forced to eat some seriously crappy food. Well, I guess I chose too, but the alternative was to starve. Screw that. Oh yeah, they made sure to inject my ass full of anthrax and smallpox on that deployment--for my protection--and I'm sure that wasn't good for me either. Since then I've had sleep problems, distended abdomen, acid reflux, dry skin, lack of focus and concentration, anxiety, depression, panic attacks, eye floaters, spider veins ... yada yada yada. Each year seems to get worse, although as of yet these problems only seem to be minor. I'd like to keep it that way and possibly reverse some of these others. Which brings me here.

I've tried fruit/veggie diet, cooked paleo, blood type, and raw a`la AV diet. My body appears to be getting pickier and pickier about what I eat, so I'm not sure what I'll do if raw paleo doesn't pan out lol. Here's to hoping that you guys and this forum are what I need! Thanks again for the awesome welcome, guys!

@boxcarguy07, my screen name is not related to FF, actually. Just something new that sounded kinda cool  ;D

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