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Journals / Re: PaleoPhil's Journal
« on: December 04, 2009, 09:36:54 pm »
PaleoPhil, may I ask you how long you have been eating raw meat & fat + raw eggs (paleo?)? Do you eat the whole egg and can you compair this between eating cooked egg (and cooked meat)? Other members on the zerocarb forum do not do well with cooked eggs / cream / cheese; a few like Jeff (he does not drink much more than coffee and "some red w.) seem to eat it all - raw or cooked and don't "notice" a thing (never mention poo, gas, bloat).

I still do not "get" the picture - if one is to eat protein (raw or cooked) and fat (raw or cooked) and drink "more water than you feel you need" then how can things not get runny. Delfuego called his discharge runny and find this "normal" but I don't!

Some times I can get on with it but so many people seem to have a different result (most call it detox) of "this healthy diet".

Sorry, but do you do much sport; this must change the picture again...


Hot Topics / Re: Are Fish Oils (DHA & EPA) bad for us?
« on: December 01, 2009, 10:07:03 pm »
Can't help but post this for thoughts...from a guy called Christopher:

I think you should probably read Peter's new blog post

To me the message is clear. In the presence of ethanol the determinant of your liver pathology is the amount of corn oil you "drink". Fish oil does the same, the next few posts all use fish oil.

I'm not going to lie, I think it's kinda funny and Ironic that your fear of basic zerocarb not providing you with everything you need has led you to supplement with a lot of fish oil and to make sure you get enough organ meats every week. Then this study comes out possibly showing that all that fish oil you take on a daily basis to "balance your omega 3's with your omega 6's from grain fed meat" has probably been hurting and possibly running your liver into overdrive which in my opinion would explain how bad your dark circles under your eyes are.

Oh ya and I also think you have digestion problems but you are too stubborn to actually give HCL a try which is kinda weird since you have no problem taking other supplements.


Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Undigested fat
« on: November 29, 2009, 09:50:02 pm »
Since nobody addressed this I will to settle your fears.
Fat is lubricating in the intestines so the worst it will do is give you the runs. Make sure you hydrate well as needed by the consistency of your bowel movements and you'll be fine.
(I seem to "dump" a meal with tallow from my stomach before it's fully digested) or too much suet.

I would love to know why and how just raw meat and fat gives you normal poo. I am told to eat fat and have found out that I can feel sick at night (this only happens at night) many hours after eating (swimming, riding, working). I don't know why I have this with muscle fat but not with suet. Water does not seem to make my poo any more human and I can even feel bloated.

This dumping; I don't know but flushing down water will not help.

If Lex has more fat and is drinking more water then how the hell can the end product be the same?

The following is a guy on pemmican:

Nicola (just not worring - raw is the way to go!!!)

General Discussion / Re: Digestion Times For RAF
« on: November 25, 2009, 10:01:18 pm »
My point precisely!  I get the impression, as do others, that Nicola is obsessing so much about her diet that she's not enjoying other aspects of her life.  I may stand corrected as I recall she mentions participating in cycling, running and swimming.  You may also be correct in that it is other aspects of her life that she's not dealing with that's causing her to present herself in a negative, critical manner.

Of course, it's up to Nicola to speak about these things (or not).  I have no doubt most members here will kindly offer her support irrespectively.

Michael by cycling, running and swimming (or is driving and sitting more paleo) my landscap (intestines) may allow for many different pictures? I look for the positive but that does not mean I don't notice many, many contradictions people make.

Lex did try a higher fat diet and then he reported putting on weight and feeling sluggish. I would also imagine his intestines and many other things should that he is eating more fat again it seems o.k. Why was it different before?

Delfuego mentions just a little watery discharge - Lex does not...then some drink a lot of water and you Michael can not drink more (me too or I would have more watery discharge or perhaps not but I am not forcing myself to drink).

Van, if you feed your daughter and she has had her by book allowed protein would you then force her to eat more fat? - even if she cried "Daddy, more fat makes me feel sick in the tummy and and and!"

Van, how would you sell your food so that people would buy it? Can you tell us all about the positive aspects (body and social life)?


General Discussion / Re: Digestion Times For RAF
« on: November 24, 2009, 09:10:15 pm »
Nicola, I think Bear had a pretty good point about not worrying too much about stuff. I wouldn't worry what that forum says about this one or vice-versa. To each their own. While I also ask questions and make adjustments at times, I also try to remember to enjoy life.
Was there ever a time when you were eating a certain diet that you did well on and did not get runny stools? Do you think you are eating too much fat or too quickly, as Bear suggested? You know better than anyone what you do best on. Trust yourself, and it's also generally recommended to verify by getting periodic checkups to see what your health stats are.
:D I got a kick out of the way you put that, and the grumpy face, and I agree.

Not worry - when others are eating no more than what some guy writes in a book (Van); what happens if he had to leave his car at home and get from A to B on his own legs - eating what Mr. so and so has in his book?

Runny stools - when I eat suet my system does not make me feel sick and have runny stools (this has happend a few times now) in the night (I don't even eat at night because that is just an easy way not to deal with feeling what things really feel like + it just shows me how long it takes for the body to deal with food...many hours) like yellow/oily muscle fat. Now all I can do is have one day on suet and one day on muscle fat...normal people don't have those kind of problems and don't need to eat (dogs) food with ground bones...I am not so shore but like on the zerocarb forum - we like to call this all healing, healthy, detox...normal???


General Discussion / Re: How much water do you drink?
« on: November 24, 2009, 08:17:37 pm »
Satya left the forum some months ago. She is now on the forum.

Satya left the zerocarbage forum some months ago.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: November 22, 2009, 09:00:57 pm »
I really don't like drinking this much water as I'm just not thirsty.  I must force myself to do it.  It hasn't caused any problems other than having to pee more frequently, but I find that it is annoying to have to constantly keep to a schedule or I just won't drink enough.  I now try to drink 16 oz (1/2 litre) every 2 to 3 hours all throughout the day.

Danny, My experience is about the same as yours.  I prettly much was only thirsty after meals and probably drank only 1 to 1.5 litres per day.  The only time I drank more was when I was working in the hot sun and then I drank a lot but most of it was lost in sweat rather than as urine.


Well I get bloated and because I go swimming, rid, and run (in the morning, first thing) I can feel more water in my intestines. Water in the morning seems to work out better than after eating raw meat and fat - I don't like to drink for quite a while after eating! I can not understand why one should drown down water (that does not even feel good) just like once I have eaten then that's it. Not natural to feel seasick.


Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: November 21, 2009, 09:19:02 pm »
Since Lex and William are drinking around 3-4 liters per day, whereas I think I'm only up to 2-2.5, I think I'll shoot for their figure, and see how I do.

Lex, how do you feel with all that water? Doesn't most of the water land in the intestines? Doesn't this cause liquid discharges and a bloated feeling?


Journals / Re: The Journal
« on: November 20, 2009, 04:24:44 pm »
Andrew, I think Charles was fond of you and I just do not believe if this ever has anythink to do with raw or cooked (like all the others mention) as long as members don't go on and on about raw/cooked (you don't)...

Hey, I had a friend named "Andrew" who wanted to be my friend, so I thought it was the "Andrew" from this forum. Turns out, this guy was a spammer and all he sent was pornography links! I unfriended him! 

Journals / Re: Ioanna's Journal
« on: November 17, 2009, 09:52:39 pm »
I've found, at times, that if I eat too much of a specific raw food too often over a long period of time, that my body stops digesting it properly and it just goes unabsorbed through my gut, so it's a good idea, IMo, to vary your diet if you can.

Does this mean that Lex and all the others eating the same muscle meat and fat do not digest the specific raw food? What about all those eating pemmican or cooked muscle meat and fat for years on end?

We all just can not be shore what is going on - I know a man who is over 80 years and I ask him how's life..."Oh, I am very well, never have any problems with my health..." As he speaks I can see all his false teeth and his belly sticks out - so, yes he is healthy cause he believes it!!!


Journals / Re: Journal of a carnivore
« on: November 16, 2009, 09:18:04 pm »
Yeah my account appears to be canceled on ZIOH also

Andrew, you got mentioned on the "shout box" and never responded; I am shore this is all a misunderstanding and I do not see why people don't go the direct way and "ASK CHARLES TO UNCANCEL!!!"

All he wants is for you to do zerocarb; he could not give a  :o about raw or cooked - just know when to shut up; after all we do not no "it" all just because we eat raw!


Thanks for the explanation Marnee. Perhaps Nicola confused your problems with pemmican for problems with raw meat? What do you think was the source of the issue with pemmican for you?

Nicola is not confused! I didn't even remember to mention Marnee as she left the zerocarb forum quite a time ago. I remember Marnee in the context of running and also can remember that she had/has "bowel -\".

I didn't know that Nyteez eats raw meat? She is living out and away from modern stimulants; she seems to have her feet on the ground and has been doing well with cooked or raw meat.

I find what Tom G. has mentioned very interesting - he and Lex are easy/reasonable to understand.


Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: November 15, 2009, 09:19:16 pm »
You could try the many other variants of paleo diet.
fruits and vegs are just waiting for you.
Maybe it is time to shift gears.

Well you still seam to be looking for "the right" balance - with your fruits and vegs, fat and meat...

I believe that on the times I was stuck on 120 lbs to 123 lbs it was due to an overactive bowel moving thing, too short transit times, maybe the lower gut didn't feel “solid” enough. Some creaking and croaking… this was stabilized by lessening the bowel movement reflex caused by too much bowel activating fruit and too much animal fat.

Once I figured out the trick to stabilizing my gut with medicinal doses of Bieler’s soup and some fully cooked pork and just having 1 fruit serving a day and choosing the non bowel activating fruits and monitoring the amount of raw fat I eat that it does not exceed my sudden poop activating dose, my gut has felt solid. I passed on this knowledge to my 8 year old boy and has him listening to his own gut and to eat things that keep his gut solid and his poop solid.

I have a solid gut but raw meat and fat plus water does not seem to allow for solid poop; I feel their is just to much liquid and I still don't know, if that raw meat and fat is just kind of a hit or miss?

PaNu Blog (Dr. Harris) on plants:


General Discussion / Re: raw, dehydrated meat
« on: November 12, 2009, 09:43:03 pm »
It's not odd at all.One theory as to why raw meat digests better is because it has a much higher water-content than cooked meats.

What does the water-content do for digestion? Digestion starts in the stomach; have you had a luck in your stomach and intestines? Why do people report about feeling bloated, having cramps and very loose stools?

I eat raw meat but could not say I NEW what is going on in me - you seem to be so shore so you may be able to give more details -\


Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: November 10, 2009, 10:02:02 pm »
Lex, you know how I go on about water! Well I had been drinking ionized water for more than 2 years. A few months ago I got to know a man like you; he went "nuts" on water and has developed his own water purifier. He told me in grate detail why the minerals (and all the rest) should be removed to hydrathe the body (mineralwater dehydrates the body). I know you have some kind of system built in your house (natural, hydrating instalment?).

What this man is manufacturing is his own kind of "Nimbus" (this system is sold in the USA and other countrys).

The Truth About Reversosmosis:

Myth #3 - Reverse Osmosis Removes Healthy Minerals from Water
Truth: Reverse Osmosis removes inorganic minerals which are UNHEALTHY.
RO systems do remove minerals from tap water. However, we humans get the vast majority of our minerals from the foods we eat, not from drinking water. For example, 1 glass of orange juice has the same amount of minerals as 30 gallons of tap water. Try drinking that for your morning breakfast!

Another thing they don't mention is the type of minerals found in water. Tap water contains only inorganic minerals which cannot be properly absorbed by our bodies. Human beings need organic minerals which are only available from living organisms like plants and vegetables and are easily absorbed by our systems. The inorganic minerals found in water has little to no benefits to people and in fact are actually detrimental to our health.

It is estimated that over a 60-year lifespan, a person drinking tap or mineral water will be ingesting about 200 to 300 pounds of rock that their body cannot use. (These are the so-called "healthy minerals" that RO detractors complain are being taken out of the water!) While most of these minerals will be eliminated, some will be stored in our tissues becoming toxic. The primary culprits are calcium salts and over time they can cause gallstones, kidney stones, bone & joint calcification, arthritis, and hardening and blocking our arteries.

"What the human body cannot utilize or excrete, it must store. Consequently, the inorganic salts (inorganic minerals) are stored and in time take their toll in the form of hardening of the arteries, stones within the kidneys, urethras, gall bladder, joints and an etiologic factor in enlargement of the adipose cell (fat cell). To be one hundred percent healthy, the human body must be free of inorganic minerals."
Paul C. Bragg, N.D., Ph.D.
World Renowned Nutritionist, Pioneer in America's Wellness movement

I often think of you


Hot Topics / Re: Zero-carb trials re well-done meats
« on: November 09, 2009, 09:58:01 pm »
I just have the feeling, that we are all full of shit and I don't know if eating raw, cooked, pemmican or, or, or... will ever give a normal human picture. I notice that both sides raw or cooked end up having cramps, loose bowel is it that people get clogged up and the raw meat makes them go (extra volume, acids?) or is the cooked meat better sitting in the colon but then again those eating raw meat have that sitting and those eating pemmican will have pemmican sitting in the bowels?

It's just a theory of mine, but it just seems to make sense. For instance, I didn't have any cramping at all last week and have been sailing along. Yesterday, there was a chuck roast cooking in the oven. I took it out too early and cut a slice off the edge of it. Unfortunately, I didn't stop with that slice. I got another piece that wasn't quite done yet. I had diarrhea last night, complete with stomach pain. It was swift and severe. And then last night, when I got into bed, I had some toe cramps. This morning, no cramps (even with flexing and standing on tip toes) and no more stomach distress.

Many are eating well cooked meat and believe to digest this better (no bloat, I don't know about the rest at the other end).


PaleoPhil would you please read ALL of the journals (past and present) + those members have posted in other journals about digestion / raw / cooked / cramps... + little inputs on the "Discussion" thread. Delfuego and all the others have mentioned all over the board about reactions to raw meat vs. cooked meat.

I am not interesting in playing a game with you or any other person and diet is not a football match!

Nobody seems to know "the answer" and I wish people would consider the whole picture; digestion has many, many aspects like water, the kind of water, amount... we drink.


would you mind sharing a name or two out of the many who have reported having trouble digesting raw meats, so that I may see for myself what they wrote and determine whether there may have been a misunderstanding? It has been my experience that sometimes the claims made about other forums have their origin in unintentional misunderstandings.

Charles, Kzantal (Martin), Delfuego, Caroline, Larry, Suzanne, Christopher, Nicklas, Moises... misunderstanding - perhaps, because many factors count!

William, I am not looking for members that believe this is a sport of "I am better than you" - many that eat pemmican don't do so well!


PaleoPhil I found a picture of you in the "meat ups". Many members have mentioned in the journals (I could name 20+) that they don't digest raw meat (found in the journals, cramps, maldigistion, candida).

I am looking into something new because I do not believe in just one factor - our body needs many factors in balance to function...

It just kind of upsets me when you find both sides with the cooked/raw and it does not give the full picture.

I do not eat at night because the body and mind do not need to fill up at night; are we not able to deal with the night/peace in any other way?


I am finding out that those who eat raw meat & fat on the zerocarb forum are the members with problems - those that change and try cooking have all reported better digestion...

Are you all just eating raw meat or have you had both (not just a few days!) and can say for shore, that things feel and work better with raw meat? How many of you have been eating cooked meat and fat (like those members on zerocarb) and can report better digestion with raw meat and fat (from start to finish + mental health)?

And for those of you eating 1 meal at night - how can that be healthy; cooked or raw...

We do not have one study which will support eating raw meat vs. cooked meat showing digestion from stomach to annal.


Health / Re: Crohn's Disease for 10 years. Need dietary suggestions!
« on: October 13, 2009, 08:36:08 pm »
I can't imagine it's healthy to have faeces sitting in the bowels for long periods for 3 years prior to full adaptation, still in the end I'm sure it was all fixed as the bowel got smaller in size over that time. For myself, I'd highly recommend the use of high-meat provided it's eaten in reasonably large amounts, not the marble-sized portions Aajonus advocates.

Tyler you like to give us all the idea that what YOU KNOW (believe to know) and what YOU DO is ???? (what ever you believe you are). I could say eating at night is ..., why do you go out of your way to poo-poo people eating zerocarb??? and you mentioned not ever been able to eat this way if all you had was suet (you go on about marrow); why just not be satisfied that you have food?

How the hell do you know what your bowels have got in them - try drinking ionized water (I don't at the moment); you might just have a big shock!


Journals / Re: Liana's Journal
« on: October 07, 2009, 06:48:50 pm »

Exercise is really important, especially when you move towards zc, for you won't have the impetuous to move from excess sugar running through your system.  If my daughter didn't simply run around the yard,  she would be in serious sugar problems.     

Van could you please explain what you mean? On the zerocarb forum Charles does not say any of this...


Health / Re: bowel movements
« on: October 01, 2009, 02:59:45 pm »
This may give others a new/different/questionable picture on the subject; the quote is from the zerocarb forum and may be interesting for members of this forum?

I rarely if ever have bowel movements anymore. When I do "go" there is no matter or substance, only a slight discharge of fluid. Has eating pemmican for 5 years allowed my system to become so adept at assimilating and digesting that it no longer produces waste? What does this mean for my colon? Is it really necessary for me to have a colon at all? If evolution has required a shortening of the digestive system then wouldn't this be supreme evolution? If you don't use it you lose it. Perhaps I'm in the process of ridding myself of the bodies most notorious "bad boy". I guess I'll have to see where this is going!



General Discussion / Re: Cool Blog
« on: September 21, 2009, 08:58:44 pm »
a blog that may be of interest


Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Colon
« on: August 07, 2009, 01:33:46 am »
What is your experience Nicola?

I would have to open my intestins to find out - I "believe" that I get on better with raw meat -\


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