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Health / Re: Feeling Ill
« on: December 28, 2010, 08:57:04 am »
Just curious, -\

Is a RAF diet more effective for eliminating candida than a cooked no/low carb diet?

If so what is the mechanism behind this?

Health / Re: Feeling Ill
« on: December 28, 2010, 07:01:27 am »
Man... I don't know what to do. I do like what I have been doing so far because my digestive system doesn't seem as stressed. I feel good after eating. I used to get some minor soreness around my abdomen. That's gone now. Eczema and feeling sick is a bummer though.

I have changed my diet drastically in the last 5-6 weeks or so. I did try a gradual transition. I started with dairy then eggs then all the other meats. There was a period of fatigue because my body had to get used to using fats for fuel and I slashed my carbs close to zero. I probably transitioned too fast. I am willing to weather this storm as long as I feel better. I wasn't sure whether the reaction I had was safe or "natural" so I had some concerns.

Health / Re: Feeling Ill
« on: December 28, 2010, 06:15:23 am »
Why do you eat that much? Didn't you heard about the 1 meal a day plan try it maybe you eat too much raw when your body is not really used to it(you said its your third day).

Do You feel hunger when you eat? Perhaps try eating only when feeling hungry,exclude the diary from the diet, try one meal a day, do some fasting.

And start slow your body has to change the way its digests/assimilates/eliminates food because raw is just different.

I didn't eat that much, and I did eat when I was hungry. I eat smaller portions usually. I will eliminate the dairy and see what happens.

Is it possible to live on just one meal? It's a relatively new concept to me. Is it possible to eat a day's worth of calories in one sitting without feeling great digestive discomfort? I spread out my meals in smaller portions because my digestion is very weak.

Health / Re: Feeling Ill
« on: December 28, 2010, 05:42:37 am »
So it should last for about 2-3 days?

What should I do in the meantime to reduce detox symptoms? Is drinking a lot of water a good thing?

Health / Re: Feeling Ill
« on: December 28, 2010, 05:21:34 am »
Hmmm... I've been drinking raw milk and eating eggs before this. I haven't changed my milk source either. I have never reacted violently to my current milk source. I avoid other cow dairy products containing casein like the plague like raw cheese. Raw cow cheese from all other breeds besides guernsey is like poison for me. Butter is usually fine no matter where it comes from. Could I have become allergic over such a short time to the milk I have been drinking?

Health / Re: Feeling Ill
« on: December 28, 2010, 04:44:03 am »
The eczema and the itching is so bad that I'm swearing like a maniac. My feet are in a baking soda bath as I write this. Glad my family left for vacation yesterday.  :P

The first day

3 raw eggs
1tbsp coconut oil
raw ground beef -I ate it like sashimi and used wasabi and wrapped it in lettuce

raw milk kefir
1tbsp coconut oil
1 avocado
raw beef liver - eaten like sashimi

raw ground beef - Same way but used balsalmic vinegar
1tbsp coconut oil

2nd Day

3 raw eggs
raw ground beef - ate it the same way
1tbsp coconut oil

Raw milk kefir
1tbsp coconut oil

raw ground beef - same way
raw salmon
1tbsp coconut oil


3 raw eggs
1/2 avocado
1tbsp coconut oil
raw ground beef

Raw milk kefir
raw beef liver - eaten like sashimi
1tbsp coconut oil

I have also been eating some lard. I know it's not exactly raw but I figured I needed more animal fat. I don't have animal fat or suet yet.

Health / Feeling Ill
« on: December 28, 2010, 01:24:36 am »
Sorry guys. :( I know that it is bad etiquette to make threads close together, but I have some concerns that worry me.

I been eating RAF diet for about 3 days. I have eaten cooked food almost every day before that. Starting about last night I started to feel ill. I had this terrible eczema flare that made me feel like stabbing my rashes. I also have been feeling flu-ish, inflamed, and old. Is this normal and has this happened to any of you? Or is this some other problem like food poisoning? ???

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Are you a ZCer?
« on: December 27, 2010, 11:52:50 pm »
Traditional pro-biotics don't help much in the way of meat digestion and the claims that they are effective in treating candida are over exaggerated, although fermented milk products can ward off candida they do nothing to rid the gut of the conditions that allow for it to persist. Its benefits are often outweighed by the fact that milk proteins cause excessive gut mucus and keep the gut from completely cleansing it self. This has been my personal experience. I ate Kefir and yogurt for years thinking it was helping me with candida, it did seem to alleviate some of my symptoms but it never corrected the underling problems.

Are you speaking from your experience or from people on the site? ???

What should I do then?

Most milk makes my throat produce a lot of mucus. The milk I drink now doesn't have that effect. I can't be too sure that it is same with my intestine unfortunately.

Health / Re: Copper toxicity
« on: December 27, 2010, 11:56:27 am »
There is a book called Prescription for Nutritional Healing that helped with supplement recommendations. Also I researched online on what minerals help chelate copper out of the system, and what supplements help with metallothionine production which helps protect against copper toxicity.

Off Topic / Re: Worst Movie I Ever Seen
« on: December 27, 2010, 11:22:55 am »
No the worst movie ever created was Battlefield Earth. By far.

NO. XD You have obviously not watched Epic Movie.

Off Topic / Re: What are you listening to?
« on: December 27, 2010, 11:21:06 am »

Probably my favorite 90s band.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Are you a ZCer?
« on: December 27, 2010, 10:58:34 am »
Over the last couple of weeks I have gradually reduced my carb intake. I used to be addicted to sugar in fruit even if it made me feel terrible. I felt better after shaking my addiction, although the candida die off phase was brutal.

I'm not sure if can consider myself zero carb.  I still consume dairy in the form of raw milk kefir, but I ferment it long until the sugars are eaten up. I probably will continue this until I am brave enough to try high meat. I need a good probiotic till then.

Welcoming Committee / Re: A guy searching for good health...
« on: December 27, 2010, 10:44:16 am »
You are going to look and feel great!

I hope so.  :) Unfortunately, the end doesn't seem near right now.

Health / Re: Omega-3 content of bone marrow?
« on: December 27, 2010, 10:32:24 am »
Interesting. Is it hard to get ruminant brains? I guess I could ask my local ranchers, but I don't know if they would sell it to me. Even though BSE risk is nonexistent with grass finished ruminants, there still seems to be a taboo surrounding it.

Hmm... Maybe they would sell it and just tell me I'm weird. Who knows? -\

Health / Re: Copper toxicity
« on: December 27, 2010, 04:53:38 am »
Yeah I know I should. I thought about it in the beginning. It just seemed like a hassle, since I didn't know where to go in my area for such tests. Also, my family is on a tighter budget and I have no medical insurance. I didn't want to be a financial burden.

Health / Re: Copper toxicity
« on: December 27, 2010, 01:38:54 am »

This article explains the problem very well.

I never officially got tested, but after I read this, I was like OMG...

It described me perfectly.

I ate no high zinc foods. Almost all plant food have a bad zinc copper ratio. I regularly ate cacao and soy which have very bad ratios.

I have had the elimination symptoms described.

Raw Weston Price / Re: Bone Stock
« on: December 27, 2010, 01:15:09 am »
Has anyone had problems from the free glutamates in bone broth? I learned about the benefits it had and made some recently. After having some I had this headachey, spacey feeling for about a day and a half. :(

Shame. It would really help my digestive system.

Health / Copper toxicity
« on: December 27, 2010, 01:05:28 am »
Hi guys. :)

I have been copper toxic for most of my life. This is because as a child, I believed that red meat was bad for you. I rarely ate high sources of zinc. I look back and recall that I tended to be more anxious than other people.

My phase with veganism made my copper toxicity worse, contributing to adrenal burnout. It didn't help that I ate soy and cacao powder regularly.

For those that have dealt with this problem, how long did it take before the symptoms of copper toxicity went away?

I am currently on a supplement regimen to help eliminate excess copper.

60-90mg zinc
1000mg molybdenum
1000mg N-acetyl-cysteine
1000mg L-Taurine
Sublingual B-complex
I also try to eat foods that help with glutathione and metallothionine production.

I take these to support thyroid or general health

Wakame sea vegetable
400-500mg Magnesium
3000 IU Vitamin D
Cod liver oil with 10000 IU Vitamin A and 2000 IU Vitamin D
Digestive enzymes

For those that have had this problem, can you share your supplement regimen? Thanks

Hot Topics / Re: cooked meat is addictive
« on: December 26, 2010, 02:15:30 pm »
Is it possible that it has to do with free glutamic acid? Cooking probably increases free glutamic acid contributing to that savory taste. Think about processed foods nowadays with MSG. They are addictive.

Free glutamates = bad :P

It's just a hunch so maybe or maybe not. :)

General Discussion / Re: Ate raw beef today. Virginity lost.
« on: December 26, 2010, 02:10:08 pm »
Congratulations! :)

I tried raw beef for the first time today. I know about that voice that keeps saying "Ew. It's Raw." XD

I stared at it for about 5 minutes before actually taking a bite though. I loved sashimi growing up as a child, so I ate it with wasabi(supposed to help with parasites. I'm still paranoid XP) and wrapped it in lettuce. It actually didn't seem too different from raw fish. XD

Welcoming Committee / A guy searching for good health...
« on: December 26, 2010, 01:12:03 pm »
Hello guys! :) I am 19 years old and live in the Dallas Metroplex. I would be thankful, if anyone is willing to read my story. It's sort of long so I understand, if you don't. :(
In my late high school years, I became more health-conscious because I was fed up with being overweight and fatigued all the time.
I followed the conventional wisdom, and I cut out red meat from my diet. I felt better or at least I thought I felt better. My digestive
system seemed to feel more comfortable, and I felt healthier. (Unfortunately, I would later learn that not having the zinc found in red meats
make protein digestion more difficult.) I continued this way until I became more ideological when I learned about the horrors of
factory farming. It made me decide to cut out chicken and turkey. It also reaffirmed my decision to not eat red meat. Then, I cut out all fish
and other animal byproducts soon followed such as dairy and eggs.

All of this would end up as a terrible mistake.

I will describe these next events with what I know now.

I went into college practicing veganism. Looking back, I remember signs that should have signaled to me that what I was doing was not good for me.
I remember that I had an underlying anxiety, and I was always craving food. In my first semester, I guess I had this illusion that I felt great. I felt incredibly
motivated(unusually so) and managed to keep up with my work and surpassed most of my peers. I became obsessed in my studying. That was truly all I did.

My schedule was:
1. Wake up
2. Go to class
3. Study except when eating or doing other maintenance functions.

My obsessiveness increased as the semester went on. I cut ties with most of the friends I had made. I eventually ended up with a perfect GPA. Strangely though
I was not happy.

These are all signs of copper toxicity and the adrenal stimulation it causes along with a high carbohydrate diet. Nutrient deficiencies didn't help either My adrenals would not last much longer.

On my second semester, I adopted an eating pattern that was truly atrocious. It accelerated my inevitable crash. I had wheat at every single meal. Every. Single. Day.

1. Wheat based cereal in the morning with soy milk
2. Wheatberries and barley salad with mixed legumes and kale at lunch
3. Wheat pita bread with hummus and tabouli(bulgar wheat) afternoon snack
4. Wheatberries and barley salad with mixed legumes and kale again at dinner
5. Snacking on fresh fruits throughout the day

I did not eat like this on my first semester. I varied the food I packed from home on the weekends. On the second semester though, I limited to a few foods just out of convenience, so I could
study more on the weekends.  -\

It wasn't long until the most hellish period of my life began. I became majorly depressed, and I didn't know why. I didn't pay attention to possible nutrient deficiencies because my thought
process became rigid and payed attention only to school work. Until the end of the academic year, I literally wanted to DIE.

I look back at this period in my life with great discomfort. I really could have died then.

I spent the summer trying to recover. I was able to eat a more varied vegan diet since I was home. I did everything I was supposed to do such as combing rice and beans, eating leafy greens, ton of fruits, and healthy oils. However, I didn't feel better. I often felt worse after eating.

I switched universities so I could go to school from home in order to relieve stress. I soon realized that I had no drive, no motivation, no nothing. I existed as an empty shell, existing but not
truly living. It constantly felt like I was in a dream world. I would end up failing all my classes.

It was during this period though that I "discovered" the work of Weston A. Price. (Actually, the first time I heard about him was during a seminar at my first university. Shame that I didn't listen then.)
I went to WAPF website and read through the nutritional information. Dr. Mercola was also a resource. I didn't change my ways immediately. I read about the nutrients that were missing from my diet, and I tried artificial supplementation. It didn't help. My logical reasoning slowly surfaced, when I supplemented zinc. The rigidity gradually slipped away just enough until I was willing to change. I went to a local farm and picked up A2 raw milk and pastured eggs. I came home and had both. The "meal" tasted essential. It wasn't long until I added pastured pork, beef, and lamb.

I have been "deprogramming" my mind for the last 2 months or so.

Throughout my experience I have gained these problems: depression, IBS, candida, leaky gut, food allergies, chemical sensitivities due to candida, extreme fatigue/adrenal burnout, insomnia, anxiety, OCD, eczema

I have made improvements, but I still suffer these problems. The adrenal burnout still isn't letting go and makes me wonder whether or not I will ever feel purpose driven.

I can no longer eat grain, raw tough vegetables, and fruit. Fructose makes me feel ill and glucose causes a stronger blood sugar crash than I have ever experienced in my life.
I have been eating mostly animal food lately(cooked). I have trouble digesting the protein and fat sometimes, but I force myself because I know it is necessary. However, raw milk kefir and raw eggs have been kind to my digestion.

I have lurked for 2 days on this forum, and you guys have sold me on the idea of eating raw animal foods. The ancestors did it; how bad could it be?
 Researching about alternative medicine has helped open my mind about many things.

I would be grateful if you guys help me on the road to feeling humans again.  ;D

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year

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