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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: What about blending for smoothies?
« on: March 10, 2011, 11:23:05 pm »
If someone can explain to me the benefit of juicing or making smoothies then I will be interested.

nobody cares about you to be interested in wasting time explaining anything.  you have done nothing to deserve help and you will not get it. 

get your head out of your ass first, then when you're ready come back and beg on your knees.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: What about blending for smoothies?
« on: March 10, 2011, 11:17:47 pm »
I am being Socratic to show...

you are being a moron to show that you are a moron.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Veggies over fruits?
« on: March 10, 2011, 11:15:24 pm »
But many humans eat mostly from the plant kingdom and call themselves vegetarians, even if they are consuming as much as 25% of their calories from meat, fish, eggs or dairy.

and politicians call themselves honest, that doesn't make constant lying a definition of honesty.  apes are not herbivores.

even if only 5% of your diet is animal say by weight it could still easily contain MOST of your daily protein intake.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Veggies over fruits?
« on: March 10, 2011, 12:00:42 pm »
If you trace the evolutionary lineage back far enough, some creatures that eventually evolved into H. Sapiens Sapiens lived in trees and ate lots of vegetable matter.  You just have to go back 4 million years or so.  See:

http://www.pnas.org/content/97/25/13506.full

At that time the only source of animal foods was probably insects.

From the paper:

"This suite of traits is distinctive of australopithecines and suggests a dietary shift at or near the stem of hominid evolution. Their thick-enameled, flattened molars would have had great difficulty propagating cracks through tough foods, suggesting that the australopithecines were not well suited for eating tough fruits, leaves, or meat. "

well if you look at apes they generally don't eat big animals ( they are no saber tooth lions ) but they do eat insects and small animals, which makes them NOT herbivores.

do cows eat insects ?  i don't think so.  apes are omnivores, just like humans.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: What about blending for smoothies?
« on: March 10, 2011, 11:55:28 am »
So it's like chewing.

not exactly.  chewing also releases saliva - blending does not.

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As your meat ages, you will find it may turn to a dark color or drained grey/green color.

i had some organic chicken livers sit too long in the fridge ( perhaps 3 weeks or so ) and they turned from bright red-brown to very very green.  i got rid of them.  were they still good ?

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Only a  fool concerns himself about parasites on a RVAF diet. Not only are they incredibly rare on a RVAF diet, but also there are  tons of herbal/drug remedies around which kill off such parasites double-quick if one happens to be needlessly scared re the issue.

so why isn't everybody on RVAF then ?

years ago i went on a steroid forum and they assured me taking steroids was safe.  so i started doing them and followed all the precautions and did everything the right way and still ran into all sorts of problems.  there is a reason why every guy is not on steroids - that stuff is not safe.

i want to believe you, but i no longer believe anything without a proof.

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Also I think bone marrow maybe.

haven't thought about it.  is sourcing not-from-cows bone marrow doable ?  what kind of nutrition is it anyway - mostly fat ?

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Veggies over fruits?
« on: March 10, 2011, 01:38:37 am »
humans are descended from vegetarians

can you be a bit more specific ?  who/what are these vegetarians that we've descended from? 

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Hot Topics / Re: Are cooked vegetables all that bad?
« on: March 10, 2011, 12:26:07 am »
Is there any single vegetable that is good juiced, all by itself?

carrot juice by itself tastes pretty good, but is high in sugar, and also high in beta carotene.  in other words if you have an entire meal of nothing but carrot juice you will certainly have too much sugar.  too much carrot juice overtime you might run into problems with beta carotene too, but i don't know if this can happen from one meal.

tomato or cucumber juice are probably ok but i never juice them because they are so easy and delicious to simply eat.  i do use cucumbers instead of water in a blender sometimes.  for example instead of blending protein powder with water i can blend it with a bunch of cucumbers.

sorry, guess i am not much help.  i am basically the opposite of a mono eater.  i will take juice of 5 different things, pour it into a blender, add a salad mix and blend it, then add 4 different protein supplements and two superfood mix powders with 30 and 60 ingredients each, blend and drink it all :) 

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Probably they do, but not directed at humans.

well obviously i mean the kind of parasites that can make a human body their home.

is the number of parasites capable of infecting humans more or less finite ? are they all more or less known ?  or can just any random crap infect humans ?

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Veggies over fruits?
« on: March 09, 2011, 01:05:48 pm »
 

The general rule (of which there may of course be exceptions) is to eat meat and fruit raw, but to cook vegetables and tubers. 

what are tubers ?

i'm not sure i'm buying this.  apes eat leaves all the time and they don't cook them.

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ok ok relax lol.

i just want to know specifically which foods are parasite free like eggs.  i am not trying to say that eating parasites is worse than eating cooked food.

but i do eat eggs mostly because its a parasite free raw animal product.

does stuff like oysters and shrimp have parasites ?

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i believe raw eggs are safe from parasites - correct ?  the same would be true for something like milk ( i don't drink milk ) right ?

is there anything else ?  maybe some sort of oysters or shrimp or some nonsense like that ?

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General Discussion / Re: egg whites ffs
« on: March 09, 2011, 06:22:42 am »
i like blending whole eggs with oranges in my vitamix - comes out creamy and delicious.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Veggies over fruits?
« on: March 09, 2011, 06:15:22 am »
Be careful eating such foods raw.  They contain anti-nutrients.

From:
http://www.healthy-eating-politics.com/toxins-in-food.html

Hydrazines: volatile carcinogens found in many raw mushrooms, including shiitake and the white button mushrooms common to the grocery store produce section. Mice display a significant increase in the incidence of several types of tumors after they are fed uncooked mushrooms. Cooking the mushrooms destroys a third of the hydrazine compounds.

Spinach is listed below.  Note that the list includes strawberries, pears and peaches (three of my favorite fruits):

Goitrogens: a class of toxins in food which suppress the function of the thyroid gland by interfering with iodine uptake. Long term exposure can cause an enlargement of the thyroid (goiter). Foods containing these substances include soybeans (and soybean products such as tofu), pine nuts, peanuts, millet, strawberries, pears, peaches, spinach, bamboo shoots, radishes, horseradish, and vegetables in the genus Brassica (bok choy, broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, canola, cauliflower, Chinese cabbage, collard greens, kale, kohlrabi, mustard greens, rutabagas, and turnips.

Seeds have phytic acid:
http://www.healthy-eating-politics.com/phytic-acid.html

I stick with certain fruits.  Banana, apple, blueberry, grapefruit, etc.

well bananas, apples etc are no good for me - too much carbs.

can you recommend any raw vegan foods that are relatively low in carbs ?

i mean if all you are trying to do is avoid antinutrients you might as well just eat sugar with a spoon.

i do know that spinach for example contains oxalic acid and seeds contain enzyme inhibitors but i am trying to look at the big picture - is it a good food overall ?  if its low in sugar, high in protein, vitamins, minerals ( perhaps EFAs ) then i may be willing to turn a blind eye to some minor imperfection.

what else do you eat besides bananas ?

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Hot Topics / Re: Are cooked vegetables all that bad?
« on: March 08, 2011, 12:46:45 pm »
I seem to do MUCH better with cooked veggies and tubers than raw ones, they really really help my digestion. I eat them away from my meat though and after my meat and at night, otherwise I have problems with them mixing badly and causing digestive problems. Raw veggies don't agree with me that wonderfully.

if you drink juice you don't need to digest it at all - the nutrients go straight into your blood.

also if you have problems with digestion you might want to consider taking some probiotics.

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Hot Topics / Re: Are cooked vegetables all that bad?
« on: March 08, 2011, 12:34:58 pm »
I still can't understand how people can eat things like raw broccoli etc.

Some cooked vegetables taste good but they always make me tired and sluggish. I get bloatings from all kinds of cabbage. Feels like sh.t. No food. Hmm, so much vegetable food everywhere. It must be a result of animal food shortage and overpopulation, means poverty.

The more poverty the more cabbage.

calorie for calorie raw vegetable juice is much more expensive than typical food in affluent countries like USA.  poverty = rice, beans, corn, wheat and potatoes.  on the other hand carrots, cabbage, tomatoes, cucumbers etc. have nothing to do with poverty.

from their beloved blenders

no, blenders are for smoothies.  juice comes from juicers.  i use this one:

http://www.discountjuicers.com/greenstarelite.html

some people make "juice" in blenders but it's not real juice.  releasing quality juice requires high pressure.

you should try some fresh squeezed raw vegetable juice - it tastes good and it will make you feel good too.  you just have to know which vegetables to combine to get good taste.  if you juice cabbage by itself you won't be able to drink it :)

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Veggies over fruits?
« on: March 08, 2011, 12:22:56 pm »
Love your analysis.

Any suggestions for roots?
Leaves?
Which seeds?
Which mushrooms?

I want to try raw mushrooms.  Which ones are safe?

no clue about mushrooms or roots in practice - was saying it theoretically.

leaves - i use organic spinach, as well as just an organic spring salad mix that they sell at the store ( i don't even know what they put in there ).  but you have to make sure any leaves you get are organic because they have a huge surface area so if they are sprayed you will get a huge dose of toxins.  theoretically i know i should be using more leafy greens but they don't stay fresh very long so i am reluctant to buy them in fear that they will go bad before i can use them.

seeds - i use hemp and chia.  chia seeds i blend.  hemp seeds you can eat just like that, they are much softer and better tasting.  sprout the seeds if you can - this will make them more easily digestible ( i don't do this myself, but i probably should )

i also use this:

http://www.thesynergycompany.com/ps_ingredients.html

which contains roots, mushrooms, leaves, grasses, sprouted seeds & algae ... but i only use about one spoon per day because of the high cost.  and even aside of the cost i would rather consume fresh food than dried powder - but it is very convenient if you use a blender on a daily basis as i do.


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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Veggies over fruits?
« on: March 07, 2011, 08:42:00 pm »
vegetables are for pussies.  traditionally we ate things like roots, mushrooms and leaves.  fruits are just diabetes waiting to happen.

roots & leaves > nuts, seeds & mushrooms > vegetables & berries > fruits > pepsi, coffee, pizza & donuts

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: What about blending for smoothies?
« on: March 07, 2011, 08:37:27 pm »
i blend every day.  there is going to be some minor nutrient loss to oxidation.  on the whole though blending almost certainly releases more nutrients than it destroys.


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Hot Topics / Re: Are cooked vegetables all that bad?
« on: March 07, 2011, 08:26:46 pm »
i would never eat cooked vegan food.  i drink fresh squeezed juice every day though, because i can't consume significant amounts of things like carrots raw - too much chewing, and too much fiber to have in the stomach.

if you can't process the fiber - juice.

if its loaded with poisons / anti-nutrients - then why bother with it in the first place ?  is there any lack of food that isn't ?

some vegan foods like nuts should be soaked before consuming.  others like seeds should be sprouted.

cooking vegan food is retarded though, sorry.

as for the science - i would be skeptical of it - nutrition science always ends up proven wrong.  just use common sense.  cooked food is not natural.

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General Discussion / Re: Arctic animal livers will kill you
« on: March 07, 2011, 07:55:18 pm »
thanks for the heads up.  i knew you could have too much vitamin A from overconsumption of cod liver oil but somehow didn't realize the same could be true for other kinds of liver.  liver has always been one of my favorite foods.

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