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Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 20, 2014, 11:01:24 am »
They did not have raw liver. However, I bought pasture raised chicken from Whole Foods. Unfortunately, pasture raised doesn't mean much. Look here:

I expected it to have that smell I assume dead fetuses have, because chicken usually has that nasty odd smell. This one actually smelled really nice. Do you think it's because it's "pastured" lol?

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 19, 2014, 11:46:11 am »
Believe it or not, liver craving again... but I was too tired to go get liver today.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 19, 2014, 06:28:30 am »
I wasn't able to find a gastro enterologist who actually can look into my colon as they're all closed for Saturday, but I went to the walk in urgent care clinic and was sorely disappointed.

I called and asked if they were able to help me with my cramps and the blood in my stool, and I was told yes. However the doctor, since she didn't have the equipment to look inside me, said that she's have to refer me to a gastro enterologist that I can meet on Monday. I thought the doc would at least have internal medication or something to help with the sore intestines but all she offered were tylenol. Why did they tell me they can help then? It's like they gave me false information. I don't think the doctor even looked at my list of allergies as she recommended that I eat toast (as part of the BRAT diet). What a waste of money. However, she said I have hemorrhoids and prescribed me hemorrhoid cream. Otherwise I am still having cramps, but I don't see blood or anything anymore.

Screw it, I am going to be safe and treat myself as if I have Ulcerative Colitis, those were pretty much my symptoms anyway. A lot of online articles claim that I have to avoid fatty foods if I have gut issues. I wonder how true that is, if they also mean healthy raw fats or just the industrial stuff (such as veggie oils and CAFO animal fats)?

I am thinking of giving up goat milk. I wonder if I should also give up raw cheese (I hope not)?

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 18, 2014, 04:08:54 pm »
Since there was blood, I probably have open wounds inside me. It's possible for them to get infected so I am taking probiotics. Might not help, but maybe.

I already took raw goat cheese and goat yogurt (pasteurized) for a gentle and filling meal as well, and I am making broth tomorrow from the bones I saved up. Are raw egg yolks safe for an inflamed gut? I doubt I have egg allergies.
It's funny how people tell us not to eat meat and cheese because they get you constipated, and to eat more veggies. I eat more veggies and I get constipated. Oh I forgot to mention, I ate more veggies than usual before becoming constipated, but I don't know if it's related to the constipation itself. The rice might've gotten me constipated.

I am going to stay away from storemade/canned foods. I need to be more proactive about prepping my meals. I'll have to start meal-planning, and what's even more difficult is that I can't go to the farmer's market anymore to get the eggs, bacon, raw butter, and raw cheese at will because I have class. What a great way to start the school semester. sigh.

I feel better the more I go to the bathroom. I hope the laxative gets out of the system as quickly as possible. It's way too powerful, I don't even know how this is okay and how other people were fine after using it. I guess the benefit is that I feel really cleaned out/refreshed?

Jesus, some people live off ramen and are seemingly healthy. Why can't some of us be able to eat normally? fml.


edit: also, this may not be related to diet but I think my gut issues have a lot to do with stress too. I don't know if therapists really help. Does anyone have tips to coping with acute stress?

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 18, 2014, 01:57:47 pm »
Oh FML. I think I am an idiot. I finished my raw meat & liver on the morning of the 13th, no problem.

As school started, I decided that I was busy and got some rice and chicken from whole foods for a quick meal, followed by canned soup (contains a bit of gluten), and then some homemade cooked meals. My stools got hard, and on the 15th, I had retrieved a sample of this:

So I was thinking, "my stools are getting hard, why not" and didn't pay attention to see that it's a laxative. I am an idiot, I thought it was fiber and took it. For the 16th and 17th, bathroom breaks weren't pleasant and I am cramping (not bad like menstrual cramp but still). I even had some bright red blood with some fluffy tissue-like stuff in my stool. It could be parasites but I doubt it, maybe it's a gut lining. I feel so stupid, I was tired. I am sure the day of diarrhea, the cramps, and the blood/tissue in my stool are cleansemore's fault.

Now what? I am freaking out right now. I can go to the doctor, I guess, but what now? Do I continue eating raw meat? Raw meat isn't filling. I don't want anything that's going to irritate my guts any longer.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 10, 2014, 11:52:37 am »
Also has anyone eaten frozen/thawed cow offals? I heard the thawed heart tastes disgusting/beefy as hell.

The local WH offers chicken offals (I think they're pastured but I don't remember). Are chicken offals any good? Any danger to them? I have this mental block that chickens are nasty, PUFA filled animals.

I am sure I need way more than just some cow muscle meats, raw livers, and bone marrows.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 10, 2014, 07:03:25 am »
I can't wait until the weekends so I can get raw liver. I wonder why I crave raw liver, is it some sort of deficiency?

To answer your question goodsamaritan, I am in my 20's, no kids, never took birth control/abortion, I don't know what sort of meds I was on though. I got sick a lot as a kid and my parents (who are connected to the med industry) didn't really give a hoot about WHY I was sick and threw all sorts of meds at me (yep, med people pull this BS on their own kids too).I don't know if I ever had antibiotics, I think I used a steroid cream before (I had uterine prolapse as a kid, I don't know why), and I never had probiotics or a lot of yogurt so I am sure my guts aren't that great.

FUCK! My period (when it began bleeding heavily) was just as crappy as any other time, it hurt for like 4 hours. I was outside when it happen and I rolled around and fell asleep at the mall (the employees were so patient). This can't be natural. If this was the jungle I'd be eaten by now.

I don't know if I should take birth control, it seems to help people but also make them suicidal/moody to a degree and a lot of people end up being dependent on it. I want to get to the root cause of my issues instead of taking symptom-covering pills. On the other hand, school is coming and I don't want to miss school and get bad grades thanks to my crappy health.

What the fuck did I do to deserve this lol?

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 10, 2014, 12:28:53 am »
evenheart I know this is a common argument and I don't know if it's BS or not, but isn't it because hunter gatherers have kids earlier than we do and they breastfeed? Oh and I am sure that eating a proper diet prevents them from hemorrhaging everywhere for a week like we do.

Women on American diets seem to complain about menstrual cramps the most. Women from other countries complain less because they eat differently. Has anyone realized that? Other people probably don't eat crappy diets and take birth control for every minor symptom like we do.

Either way, menstrual pain cannot be natural. I can tell it's utter bullshit when other women and doctors are like "periods are SUPPOSED to hurt, it's natural! Here take tylenol." Curse of the woman my ass, there is no female curse. More like curse of modern day pollution and crappy diets. These people are on the same level as those who think teens are SUPPOSED to have acne.

We survived without tylenol for thousands of years and isn't it interesting how you never read about menstrual pain in old literature? I began getting menstrual cramps very early, at the age of 14, like many of my other female friends.  On the other hand, my grandmothers mentioned not having debilitating menstrual pain (drowsiness and some contraction is understandable due to blood loss but not if you're bed-bound), and it's not like they had kids early than modern people do (they got pregnant when they were like 22-28, not 15 like most people wouldn't imagined). Even women who never give birth aren't mentioned to have menstrual pain, so it can't be the "periods hurt these days because women have less children". Utter crock.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 09, 2014, 11:29:33 am »
I haven't eaten pork for days now. I was drinking broth (until I accidently dried the bones out), eating small portions of raw meat, butter, gelatin snacks, probiotics, other stuff. I don't know if it's the broth (doubt it), probiotics (probably), the raw meat (probably), or the enema (maybe), but I've been having moist, normal stools for a few days now so this is real good news for me.

My period started so let's see if this time is as painful as the last times.
Speaking of periods, I read a thread here claiming that it's not 'natural' to have monthly periods or whatever, but the raw vegans say the exact same thing. So how do we know if monthly periods are 'healthy', 'unnatural', or what?
No period can mean you're anemic. Monthly periods can mean your body is trying to expel excess toxins or whatever. Jesus christ, who can I believe anymore..

Hot Topics / Re: Fukushima and California
« on: January 08, 2014, 10:20:50 am »
It's like people WANT the world to end and get it over with.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 08, 2014, 10:17:40 am »
I did ask, I just don't remember lol...
No grains, no soy. That's all I remember.

After he said pasture raised, no grains, no soy, I just went I AM SOLD. I'LL TAKE THREE

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 08, 2014, 05:37:53 am »
Yeah I asked. Also pigs are foragers, they don't eat 100% grass, so they eat whatever they find. Nothing wrong with that. I don't remember what the farmer supplemented them with, all I know is that there weren't any grains such as wheat, oats, or barley in their diet (yeah I listen for those things).

I trust the quality. As someone who is sensitive to Whole Foods pork ('organic soy-free vegetarian" my ass..), the local farmer's bacon only did me good so far. I don't think pigs are naturally dirty animals, at least no more than chicken. The bacon is indeed pretty expensive, so I don't eat that much, and I save the fat for my soups. So good.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 07, 2014, 12:12:06 pm »
I get my bacon from a local farmer. I asked about the feed and he said they're pasture raised (no grains) and I trust him because his products are good. When I eat the "organic bacon" from Whole Foods I get reactions, but not from this guy's bacon. My skin felt better and more supple after consuming his bacon so I'll keep it as an option.

I ate broth and raw beef shank (including marrow) today, but the shank I made sure not to eat too much just yet. I also supplemented with pasteurized goat butter and gelatin tea. I am PO'd because I am out of eggs and I can't get any until the end of this week. WH was out of liver too, and can't get that either until the end of this week. I really miss my raw egg yolks, raw liver, raw goat cheese, and raw butters! *rocks back and forth lol*

I am so disappointed that cooked paleo didn't help me (but I wasn't watching my carb intake either) and now I am searching for a health regimen all over again. School is going to start soon and my schedule is PACKED. I need to get my shit together and figure out how I'll keep my energy and avoid skipping class during periods due to extreme pain (I have PCOS). I really hope that raw paleo will help me.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 06, 2014, 06:52:34 am »
I'll have to go back and reread your post. I wonder why drying it a bit helps the digestion part?

I think I jumped onto raw meat too quickly. I read somewhere on the forum that SAD eaters, who use vegetables, fibers, and grains, have expanded guts thanks to the large amount of food it takes to fill us up versus raw meat. I definitely do feel hungry after eating only a palmful of meat, so that is probably why I ate more than I should.
I am thinking of keeping some cooked foods in and transitioning slowly to more raw.

Today I drank more broth, with bacon and some rice. My stool came out Type 4 on the bristol stool scale, which was good news for me. I think a bit of cooked foods, broth, and lesser amounts of raw meat really helped. I think the enema may also have helped but who knows.

Okay enough poo talk...

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 05, 2014, 04:28:25 pm »
I use scissors too. I think I may not have cut the meat small enough as well.

I hate sweet potatoes except Japanese purple potato. I'll look into yacima and jacon.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 05, 2014, 08:55:05 am »
For morning and lunch, I did not eat raw meat at all. After thinking about the stool, I didn't want to eat it yet until I craved it.
I decided to add more starch into my diet to see how I feel (and the probiotic I use need a boost too), so I cooked up a bit of indian rice using the cooked broth as water and bacon grease. I had cooked bacon, rice, and broth.
During dinner I began craving raw meat again so I took out the leftover beef shank and ate less than a palmful, making sure not to overdo it. I warmed the marrow I scooped out of the bone and the raw meat in my broth (not warm enough to cook it), and it tasted a lot better as the dry meat soaked up the broth. I feel a lot better.

Have any of you tried drying meat in the fridge for a few days (a day or two) before eating it? I realized that softer meats is much easier to cut instead of just forming to the knife.

van I usually eat a lot of animal fats before raw paleo, but I realized that I recently haven't been doing so. When I get my hands on raw butter, I eat half a pound in a day not because I force myself but because I crave it. After raw butter, the other butters I used to eat now taste like wax (and this is the pastured, organic kind of butters). I think this is why I haven't been eating a lot of animal fats recently, because I just got so spoiled by the raw butter.
However I have often have raw egg yolks after meal, yogurt, and I also eat the fats off the raw meats so I don't think I am too fat deprived. However I think my body is used to a lot more fats running through the guts.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 05, 2014, 05:18:08 am »
Doesn't vinegar denature the meat? Vinegary meat sounds very unappealing. I do eat egg yolks after I eat meat sometimes.

I didn't see raw meat in my stool until I did the enema. I thought the enema only reaches the lower colon (I didn't do the enema to "clean my colon" or anything, I actually was crappy after the holidays). I can understand undigested meat being in the intestine but the colon? Maybe I stimulated the intestine too and everything just expelled because I was really hungry afterwards. Oops.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 05, 2014, 02:53:48 am »
I don't know if it's the kimchi though. I had kimchi and other fermented vegetables as a child and I don't remember linking any stomachache to fermented vegetables. I did have stomachache right after eating crap like brown or whole grain pastas though (as I said, mom was really into "healthy" stuff), and that is how it feels right now.

However I didn't have fermented veggies for a long time, not even pickles, so maybe my body is getting used to it again.

Anyway I don't know why there were pieces of raw meat in my stool. Maybe it goes hand in hand with the indigestion. I do admit I ate more that I should though.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 05, 2014, 12:09:18 am »
I thought that I might be eating too much meat. Somewhere here I read that I should eat as much as it can fit in on my hand (or palm?), I've been eating way more than that. Maybe two handful.
I eat probiotic supplements along with food.

What frequency do you mean? I eat two raw meals a day, with some yogurt and snacks in between. The snacks are no more than the raw meats.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 04, 2014, 02:09:52 pm »
Finished the lamb shank with no problem this morning, and left the beef shank to dry at room temperature and ate it a bit throughout the day.

I keep getting a little heartburn after eating raw meat. I am not sure if it's because of the fermented veggies or the meat itself. I just had beef shank with marrow.
I ate kimchi before, I never got sore stomach right after kimchi. However that was years ago.

I wonder if meat is really digesting in my system. I eat both fat and muscle. I eat the muscle diced.
I had small but well formed stool these days (I had dehydrated stools prior to eating raw meat), but when I did an enema and expelled, there were some stool where it seemed like undigested parts of raw meat were stuck in them. After the enema, the heartburn from my meat dinner felt a bit worse.
I did the enema because I 'cheated' paleo a little for the holidays and felt like it was dragging me down. Thanks to 'cheating' during the holiday I haven't done any urine hair wash or anything.

The tallow keeps my hair really nice. I use it in my hair before shampoo (I still use shampoo).

I threw the stew meat away, only saved the bones. I don't want to bother eating cooked meat unless I absolutely love it, but I love bone broth so there.

General Discussion / Re: Why is meat predominantly cooked?
« on: January 03, 2014, 10:01:15 am »
I heard that even cavemen cooked their meats, but what would they marinate with anyway? Cooked meat without any marination or seasoning tastes disgusting IMO.
I feel like I am asking how birds developed wings in the first place, as small wings or pseudo-wings are virtually useless so they wouldn't really develop into full fledged wings unless even tiny wings gave advantage. There seems to be a huge jump between raw meat and marinated/seasoned cooked meat, just like there's a gap between land animals and winged animals.

I don't think animal feces during the paleolithic era were that "dirty" enough to infect people. After all, isn't soil pretty much just broken down feces and dead animal/vegetation thanks to the scavengers and fungi?

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 03, 2014, 06:46:32 am »
I lol'ed so hard at this.


So this morning I finished another piece of lamb shoulder blade chop w/ some raw bone marrow. I still have a funny sore feeling after eating it, but maybe it's also because I ate it with kimchi. I am not good with spicy stuff.
I realized that I keep craving raw meat.

The fats on raw meats seem unchewable at first but the more I chew on it, the more it becomes soft. It helps to have it at room temperature.

Lamb shank TONIGHT! It's fatty fatty fatty. Also forgot to mention, I also eat raw egg yolk (no egg white) after meals. They're delicious.

General Discussion / Why is meat predominantly cooked?
« on: January 03, 2014, 06:40:55 am »
I know this has been asked before but I just don't think it's "addicting" or the opioid or whatever. Nor does cooked meats taste better.
I don't know about the transition and "raw meat tastes bad you have to get used to it" thing people are talking about. Raw meat tastes so good in its own right, maybe it's because I am already a sushi-lover. Cooked or boiled fish tastes utterly disgusting to me. When I tried raw meat it didn't take any effort to get used to it.

Cooked meats taste more gamey (but in a weird way), they're dry, and they taste rusty compared to raw meat. They even feel acidic in the stomach if they're not boiled. Raw meat has less gamey flavors, it tastes savory, and its texture is way better. Cooked meat only tastes better if it's heavily marinated, which may explain why most traditional recipes require marinating the meat. But raw meat can be marinated too.

Cooked meat benefits:
-denatured proteins, might be easier to digest. That's the main thing people say is the benefit of cooked meat but I personally can't tell.
-Tougher cuts of meat that you can't chew through become softer after cooking. This is the biggest benefit I can think of.
-Easier to separate the meat from the bone by boiling/cooking, and boiling brings out the nutrients out of bones
-you eat more (how is it a benefit though?)
-You can extract the fats easily in order to use it for other foods (eating with vegetables and grains, cooking vegetables for extra flavor).
- Marinating and cooking infuses the flavor deep into the meat, while marinating raw meat just covers the surface. Maybe this is why people love cooked meat.
- eliminating dangerous pathogens, parasites, and bacteria such as rabies
- more texture variety? crunchy bacon, fried crunchy tempura, chewy marinated steak
- warmer during cold seasons

Raw meat tastes good too though and has pros too:
-less gamey
-less effort to make & much faster. you have to pay attention to how you cook steak for example, or it's going to be too dry.
-naturally tastes better (cooked liver tastes utterly disgusting while raw liver tastes sweet)
-nice moist texture, not rusty and dry like raw meat
-stuck in your teeth less
-you need less to feel satisfied or get nutrients
-probably has more nutrients that didn't break down thanks to heat
-no burnt carcinogens
-Raw fats always taste better and even feel better, doesnt feel slimy in the stomach like cooked fats do
-beneficial bacteria and parasites
- cooler during hot seasons
- can be easily preserved just as cooked meats (such as curing. I heard that natural quality meat doesn't actually go bad, just ferments or dries out)

It would make sense if cooked and raw meats were eaten in equal amounts side by side, but why is most meat predominantly cooked (especially boiled) in most cultures? There must be a reason?
Little children prefer raw meat and crave raw meat, I never heard of a kid wanting cooked meat. How in the world did we even begin cooking meat in the first place?
Cooked meats don't taste any better IMO, and it's so time and energy intensive to cook meat. I don't get how it became more popular than raw meat.

Journals / Re: It Better Goddang Work!
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:24:43 am »
Fair enough, all you had to do was wish me out of here!

All you had to do was play nice, but okay.

Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Frogs
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:22:18 am »
Liver torn up? For real? I never heard of that, sources please.

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