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Health / Re: Starting to eat raw meat, need advice on storage, etc..
« on: March 03, 2015, 03:51:25 am »
I remember when "they" told me that a salad needed at least 10 vegetables in it, and I used to sit there and chop up ten veggies. Now, if I want a carrot, I eat a carrot, and the other nine are going to have to wait their turn.

Omg, did they really use to say that? That's hilarious and crazy.

Also, I loved the idea of the meathooks inside the fridge.

Health / Re: Intestinal blockage
« on: February 27, 2015, 10:33:33 am »
I've started eating 1/2lb raw ground beef(seared for 30sec on ea side) with raw eggs, Kerry gold.
I'm only searing It because it's not organic. No issues so far. If I get my hands on organic I will try 100% raw.

FWIW I did the same thing and with the same thinking for over 2 years and didn't see any major benefit until I started eating meat 100% raw, a little over 2 months ago. 

In my view, the reason you want organic and grassfed is because it'll have less toxins, especially in the fat and organs. The bacteria are not what's bad for you from factory farmed meat, it's the toxins. And when you cook it, you make the toxins more easily absorbed, as you break the bonds that existed in the animal body, that your own digestive system can recognize and eliminate before too much is absorbed. What's more, when you partially cook it, the bacteria from the raw part will create toxic byproducts when they eat the cooked parts which are toxic for them.

If you can't find organic or wild meat of any kind, just have the raw lean muscle tissue without the fat. That is pretty low on toxins. You can have some other source of fats, like organic, unvaccinated, pastured eggs, or avocados. This is what I'm doing for the most part, and although my fat intake is much lower than I would prefer, and my protein intake is much higher by proportion, it's working pretty well.

If the reason for searing it is psychological (so that you can tell yourself it's not raw but rare), and you want to give it a cooked color, you can marinate it in lemon juice. Works particularly well with ground beef (or any other ground meats). Mix 1lb ground beef to 5-7oz lemon juice. Within a few minutes after mixing it well, you will have a bowl of ground beef that looks totally cooked, but isn't. Or if you only want the outside to look that way, you won't be needing much lemon juice at all, just enough to cover the outside for a short time. I usually add spicy things like garlic, onion, ginger or hot peppers, but you don't have to. Also a couple eggs mixed in there go great (meaning you can't taste them at all), but they'll stick to the meat and separate some the lemon juice out, so add them after the meat has your desired color.

Also, if you're interested, the whole idea of searing meat to kill bacteria comes from the concept that the outside part of the meat cuts is contaminated during the butchery process (from bacteria in the intestinal tract and/or other bacteria from the outside environment), but that the inside of the muscle or organs is sterile (which it isn't, but that's another issue). If you sear ground beef, but the inside is raw, that doesn't even work under that paradigm, because what used to be the outside of the cut of meat is now mixed all over the place, not just on the outside of it. So the fact that you've been doing this means it's perfectly safe to do 100% raw. You'll probably get detoxes as your body adapts and utilizes the new nutrients, but that's something else.

Btw, I also believe personally that meat of any kind that has been frozen loses a lot of nutrients, but others here disagree. I mention that because I noticed that a lot of the sources for organic meats come frozen since most of their customers don't seem to care, and it makes it easier for storage and shipping.

General Discussion / Re: Farm raised oysters, are they safe?
« on: February 14, 2015, 08:52:18 pm »
They told me they had just arrived that day. The outside of the shells was a greenish black, instead of the more usual brownish white. I asked about the color, but the guy didn't know.

General Discussion / Re: Farm raised oysters, are they safe?
« on: February 14, 2015, 06:34:46 am »
Well, we're back to the shriveled oysters with ocean-like water.

Also, my previous estimate was wrong. I was having about half a dozen a day, not a dozen. I could probably still eat 60 in two days, especially if they were the high quality ones, but it might not be as easy as I thought.

Wai Dieters / Re: Commercial Bananas: The Worlds Most Destructive Crop
« on: February 14, 2015, 01:09:46 am »
I don't see this as a problem. If the plantation is abandoned then something else can be grown there. If it isn't, that's not the fault of the bananas, but of most of the people living there and the type of political system they have.

It's not the bananas that create the banana republics, anymore than potatoes created communism in the USSR, just as traditional mett (raw pork dish) was not what created anti-judaism in Germany.

I'm not a huge fan of bananas myself, too high in sugar. I prefer ripe plantains.

In any case, I ultimately I don't care about what's "eco-friendly", I care about what's human-friendly. If and when those two coincide, I'm in agreement with environmentalists. "eco-friendly" can mean something like drinking spring water from a plastic bottle that claims to completely degrade in 5 years. Now if it completely degrades in 5 years, think about how much toxicity is leeching from the plastic container into your water while that bottle sits on a shelf for weeks or months after bottling. Likewise using paper and cardboard to bag/box your produce, that has been recycled so many times, the chemical load is off the charts.

Primal Diet / Re: How to make vanilla extract?
« on: February 13, 2015, 10:48:06 pm »
All the sources I found used cooking and continual heating to around 50 Celsius. But it looks like sun-drying has something to do with the process.

Do you know how it's made without cooking them or artificially heating them (other than through sun-drying)?

General Discussion / Re: Farm raised oysters, are they safe?
« on: February 13, 2015, 02:04:38 pm »
I had never had oysters raw or cooked until a couple weeks ago. Then I saw them in a supermarket and assumed they were wild. I don't know if they are or not.

I've been having them often over the past few weeks. At first they didn't taste very good, I think most of them were shriveled, or just unhealthy. They were small for their shell size, and the liquid inside was very salty and somewhat clear, at first I thought this might be ocean water and was somewhat reluctant to drink it (because of the salt content). But the last few times they've been delicious. Big, and tasty. The liquid inside is very creamy, and not that salty. The shells are very hard and pretty thick. They take significant force (which is surprising for their size) and some skill to open. I suppose that means they are healthy, or just more fresh.

I could easily eat 60 of them in two days if I wasn't eating any other meats those days. Although I've only been eating them as a supplement to my other meats so I'm only eating about a dozen a day or a few less, when I have them.

Primal Diet / Re: How to make vanilla extract?
« on: February 13, 2015, 01:28:33 pm »
Do you know how they ferment them?

Primal Diet / Re: How to make vanilla extract?
« on: February 12, 2015, 10:24:31 am »
I've never even seen a vanilla bean, organic or not. But I suppose I would get them raw, unfermented and organic if possible.

Primal Diet / How to make vanilla extract?
« on: February 12, 2015, 03:47:05 am »
In We Want To Live, Aajonus writes: "VANILLA EXTRACT should be organically grown and should contain its natural alcohol.", but he doesn't specify how you're supposed to make it. In The Recipe For Living Without Disease he mentions using organic vanilla extract, but doesn't explain how to make it.

Does anyone know how this is made? I've been looking for recipes but they all call for using high proof liquor, which Aajonus said is all toxic without exception. So what is the natural way to ferment vanilla beans so that they create their natural alcohol, without you having to add toxic alcohol yourself? Any ideas?

General Discussion / Re: Killed a wild bird today
« on: February 02, 2015, 02:42:36 am »
Nice, what kind of bird was it, do you know?

Health / Re: Vaccination
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:04:29 am »
I wasn't blaming you for taking vaccines yourself or giving them to your children in the past. I was asking the reasons why you now continue to believe that vaccines prevent disease (even if you think there are better ways to prevent disease)

Health / Re: Vaccination
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:12:09 pm »
eveheart, van: How do you know that vaccines prevent disease? I've looked for consistent evidence on that but haven't found it.

Polio rates were going down before the introduction of the polio vaccine, and the decline slowed down after the vaccine became mandatory.

We may not have a lot of polio today, but there are many other types of diseases that were uncommon or less common back in the day. Everything from cancer to diabetes to ADHD to poor eyesight. You see plenty of people today in their mid 20's who's hair has all turned gray or white or has fallen out or thinned out to the point of baldness (natural color hair dyes and wigs made from real human hair at record high sales). People in their late 20's and early 30's are losing teeth like it's childhood all over again. Most women 21 and older (when they don't have a ton of makeup covering it up) have sagging bags and/or dark colored bruising below their eyes. Allergies, autism, heart attacks, kidney and gallbladder stones, Alzheimer's, IBS, appendicitis, mega-obesity, athsma, infertility, impotence in young males (24 year olds taking viagra), lack of an ability to properly lubricate in females (22 year olds using artificial lubricants), athletes dropping dead during warmup... Could it be that it's vaccines that are a significant factor causing some of these epidemics?

I don't mean to say that vaccines cause everything bad, or that they are the sole or main cause of everything bad, but it's a fact that as vaccines have gotten more widespread, and as we vaccinate our babies, kids, teens and adults against more diseases and in more occasions, most types of disease and health problems have skyrocketed. There might be a causal connection here, at least for some of the health issues.

Long term, proper double blind studies to compare the pros and cons of vaccines have never been done. In most cases they haven't even been done to prove effectiveness against the particular disease that the vaccine supposedly prevents. The labs say it would be "unethical" to engage in such studies, because of the concept of herd immunity. So effectiveness is assumed from the get-go, and then -after probably a large bribe from the pharmaceutical companies- the politicians make it mandatory to take them (forced inoculations) and/or mandatory to pay for them (by making them free, which means you have to pay for them through taxes). This doesn't inspire my trust in vaccines.

Health / Re: Vaccination
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:48:33 pm »
Thanks everyone for the responses and links, they've been very illuminating.

General Discussion / Re: Seafood sourcing?
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:44:08 pm »
Very useful tips, thank you!

General Discussion / Re: Seafood sourcing?
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:12:23 pm »
eve, is there a way I can I tell if fish has had chemicals added to it to preserve it?

Health / Re: Intestinal blockage
« on: January 05, 2015, 06:10:24 am »
Then have foods that don't require much chewing, like raw ground beef, raw fish, or raw eggs. Also vegetable juice works wonders here. And raw honey. And any raw dairy. I would suggest avoiding the pink salmon in particular because most of it is farmed, and all of it is GMO, even the wild variety, since the GMO pink salmon from farms escaped and contaminated the wild populations' genetics. But if all you can have is raw farmed pink salmon, it's still a lot better than anything cooked, IMO.

It's possible that the reason you have trouble chewing a lot is because your teeth are weak from a deficient diet and too much toxins. But I think they will heal in time if you give them the right nutrients and the tools to help get rid of toxins.

Health / Vaccination
« on: January 04, 2015, 03:22:14 pm »
What are your thoughts on vaccines?

I've seen some people here refer to them as necessary under bad conditions.

I see them as nothing but venom injected into the body as if it were being delivered by a snake, scorpion or spider.  I haven't seen any conclusive evidence that they do any good, and I have seen lots of evidence that they do plenty of bad. People get all sorts of negative reactions from vaccines that are often minimized or unreported, from mild symptoms to allergies to even paralysis and death. And when you look into what's in them, it's no surprise. Moreover, injecting anything directly into the bloodstream bypasses our bodies' first lines of defense against foreign and toxic substances. Which is why venoumous animals use exactly this method of delivery.

Let me tell you my personal story. When I was 6 years old, my mother told me that we were going somewhere, I don't remember what she said, but I remember I was not concerned about going. Up until then my health had never been a concern, I was a very healthy and strong kid. When we arrived at the hospital, and she told me what they were going to do, I panicked. I wanted out of there. I instinctively knew that this was bad for me. If it wasn't, then why did my mother have to lie to get me to go? They had to drag me kicking and screaming into the vaccination room, where it took two big guys, a nurse, the doctor and my mother to all hold me down at the same time to keep me still enough to inject me. It was a nightmare.

A few days went by, and I was coming home from the swimming classes in the bus that would take all the kids from home to the pool and back. I noticed I had some yellow goo coming out of my arm, where they had injected me, and mentioned it to the kid sitting next to me. I didn't know what it was. He said it was called pus and it meant I was going to die. It made perfect sense to me, after all, I was injected with a poison right in that spot. I was depressed all day. When my mother asked me what was going on, I told her. She calmed my fears and told me I wasn't going to die. I wasn't sure if I should believe her or not; after all, she was the one who tricked me into going, and she held me down along with the others. And she was a doctor. I never trusted doctors.

A few months after that, school had just started, and I began getting colds that would last for months. I would have several every year, so that in total, 6 to 9 months out of the year, I had a cold. This had never happened before. Most of the time, the mucus that I would blow out of my nose was very thick and a dark yellow color, just like the pus coming out of my arm was. It slowly diminished over time until I was 22, when I was only having them 3 to 5 months out of the year, and then they suddenly stopped when I started taking massive amounts of vitamin C supplements. (I'm not taking the vitamin C anymore, I think it probably caused me other problems, and the colds have not resurfaced yet).

I had other vaccines when I was 9, 10, 11, 12 and 15 that probably gave me other health problems or exacerbated them. But the one I had when I was 6 was the one that made the most impact, and it wasn't until recently that I made the connection between the vaccine and my health starting to go down the drain.

Health / Re: Intestinal blockage
« on: January 04, 2015, 02:14:09 pm »
A_Tribe, I would try having all raw foods for a couple of days and then see if the situation gets better. If you think your digestive system is too weak to handle red meat, try raw fish, and if even that is too hard to digest, go with eggs. Either way, you said you are eating normally again, so if you can handle cooked stuff, surely you would be even more able to digest raw foods.

Health / Re: Intestinal blockage
« on: January 04, 2015, 12:20:47 pm »
it may be supplemented organic corn, but anything certified organic contains no gmos if he farmers are upholding to those standards.

Ah, good to know, thank you. They just said they supplemented with corn and I assumed it was probably GMO. Do you know if organic practices allow for vaccinations of animals? I know I avoided another source of good eggs precisely because they said the chickens were vaccinated (they said it thinking people would think that was good, I think it's horrible and likely to make the eggs a lot more toxic)

Health / Re: Intestinal blockage
« on: January 04, 2015, 04:39:35 am »
I don't know, but when I was eating cooked stuff, well done beef was bad, and pasteurized cheese was the absolute worst in terms of constipation. I had to counter both of those with tons and tons of whole vegetables.

Now for the last 15 days I'm eating over 2 pounds of raw meat every day, mostly low quality feedlot beef which is most of what I could find, sometimes fish, and sometimes lamb that I think might be grassfed, but not sure. Today I also had 3 raw organic, mostly pasture raised (but supplemented with likely GMO corn) eggs mixed with raw honey (or at least I think it's raw, not sure) and natural vanilla extract (which I have no idea if it's raw or not). As I'm still adapting to the diet I've had overly loose BM's, but even though I've had almost no fiber (just a bit of fruit), I haven't had any constipation at all. If I was eating all this stuff cooked and without the fiber from the vegetables I would have massive constipation by now.

I'm allowing beef and lamb meats to ferment a bit in lemon juice before consuming them, to aid in the digestion process (it basically does the same as your stomach acid). That initially gave me some teeth sensitivity, but now that I added vegetable juice that's gone also. I'm slowly feeling stronger and healthier. Sometimes more so than others, but there is clear improvement nonetheless.

When you think about it, in the paleo times humans probably wouldn't add salt into their food or water as they got the nutrients they needed through food.

I mostly agree with this. Although if they lived near the sea, then they might drink some salty water, or dip foods in it, nobody knows. I started eating raw meats about two weeks ago and found that salt makes it taste worse, contrary to cooked meats which I had to salt a lot. I don't know if AV is right in his thinking, but if I don't see any problems from lack of salt then I don't see any good reason to add them to my diet.

Circumstances are different nowadays though. As an athlete you may need to quickly replenish minerals. Just have to make sure you don't go overboard.

I disagree with this. If you're running after a zebra for hours, and the difference between you or the zebra getting tired first might be the difference between life and death for you and your tribe members, that is quite a bit more important than winning some medal in an athletic competition, and likewise the strain (and recovery) that your body has to be put through is that much more extreme. Similarly, in the paleo environment, almost all fights or struggles, whether with beasts or other humans, were to the death.

Health / Re: Constipation
« on: January 04, 2015, 12:18:39 am »
Is this raw meat and fish you are having, or cooked? You didn't mention in the OP.

Health / Re: Intestinal blockage
« on: January 03, 2015, 11:40:33 pm »
I'm new in this but I would bet it's the cooked foods that cause you constipation, in particular the cooked meats/dairy. I really cannot imagine someone getting constipated from raw meats or dairy.

When you said you don't get an urge to go, and have to do crazy amounts of trying to pass only a small amount, have you considered that maybe it's because there isn't much to pass anyway?

When I was eating cooked meats and dairy, the best way to prevent constipation was always lots of whole vegetables, for the fiber. Now that I've started eating copious amounts of raw meat every day, I juice my vegetables to intentionally remove the fiber, and I still can't imagine getting constipated. It's only been a little over 2 weeks though.

Also, I wouldn't get so concerned about the quality of the meats as I would about whether they're raw. Yes, grassfed, organic, unvaccinated, never frozen is a lot better for you. But if your excuse for having cooked is that you can't get high quality meats, I don't think that holds much water (pun not intended). If you take bad quality meats and cook them, they will turn worse, not better for you. I would just have those raw if it's all I can get.

Welcoming Committee / Re: New to RPD, some questions !
« on: December 29, 2014, 07:43:35 am »
I'm also from Argentina (Buenos Aires city) and just started this diet, and facing the same challenges. With all of the political changes that happened over the last 15 years, meat quality has been destroyed here. Because of all the export restrictions and price controls on local selling of meat, meat subsidies for feed lots, as well as controls on currency conversion and fixed exchange rates that have a 50% difference from the real rate, what was once all pasture raised, high quality meats are now all grain fed sick meat. Whatever high quality meats still exist are mostly exported and billed at about the same price as the low quality stuff that is sold locally, with most of the real payment being done under the table to avoid super high tariffs and taxation (that can add up to 90%); or they're sold locally in the black market.

There is a small developing market for organic fruits and vegetables (and I have my doubts about them being really organic, and not just regular branded as organic), but not for meat. Good quality eggs are hard to find but you can find some that are ok, relatively easy (free-range, pastured raised supplemented with GMO corn, like chaman said). Raw honey is impossible to get unless you know a bee keeper from what I can tell. Most people have never even heard of it, everybody just heats the honey during extraction because it makes it flow much quicker. Raw milk or any dairy products are even harder to find, since it's illegal to sell or purchase them.

If you read this, ciervo-chaman, send me a private message. I'll send you one but I don't know if you'll get it because I read somewhere else that you can only have one if you don't delete it.

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