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« on: August 08, 2015, 01:45:26 am »
Do you eat fish and/or sea/ocean food?

If so, what and what quantity per day/week and what do you prefer?

Do you eat the whole fish(e.g. organs, skin, head etc.)?

Is ocean/sea food dangerous or not (e.g. heavy metals poisoning?)?

I want to eat raw mackerel, it got the highest vitamin D, DHA, iodine content, plus other nutrients. I want to blend the whole fish(head, skin, organs) with some water and some onions/garlic some spices, like Inger

But im concerned about  heavy metals and radiation... should i be concerned?

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Re: Fish
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2015, 02:07:38 am »
I suggest searching for the topics you're interested in. There are many threads in the forum about this. No need to start another one to answer all the same questions.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2015, 02:49:56 am »
The mercury in fish fraud has been extensively debunked over the years. A massive, still-ongoing study on Seychelles Islander children, showed conclusively that, despite these children eating 10 times as much seafood in their diet as the average American child, they still developed no health-problems from ingesting all that mercury in the seafood:-

http://www.rochester.edu/pr/releases/med/mercury.htm

So forget about radiation/mercury scares, they are meaningless, promoted by unscrupulous environmentalists.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2015, 06:46:03 am »
I eat sea food at least 2++ meals a week... I started out WAI diet and there may be times I just eat sea food multiple days.
Mercury poisoning and radiation does not scare me.
I get various sizes of fish from big to small.
I also have fermented tiny fish called bagoong.
Also oysters and sea weed.

I feel that I would get deficiencies if I did not eat sea food.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2015, 11:27:40 am »
I eat about 5 pounds of seafood a week, and have been doing this for over 10 years. Seafood...it's where the minerals are.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2015, 02:21:11 pm »
I did not seem to thrive on a diet of  just raw seafood and  a little raw plant food. This may have been because I did not get enough raw fat such as via raw fish eggs.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 07:57:38 pm »
I eat raw seafood at least 2 times / day.
Oysters a lot... just picked 166 oysters at the beach where I work too :)


I have read a little radiation through seafood will work hormetic............ how cool is that :)

As I was on the cruise in the Mexican gulf and talked to neurosurgeon Jack Kruse (man was it a nice trip... unforgettable. That guy ROCKS!! He is crazy.... and special... and have a HUGE heart... so beautiful)... he told me he thinks the raw fish heads I have as a smoothie might be even better than oysters........yay :)


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Re: Fish
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2015, 09:50:48 pm »
Wow, I bet that was an exciting cruise. Salmon tastes so good to me and I have been eating more fish because of JK. But being land locked makes me weary of quality.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2015, 03:13:23 am »
I tried tuna, salmon, red sniper, grouper, swordfish, orange roughy, flounder, and several I forget name, all from Publix frozen. My favorite? tuna, orange roughy and grouper. I eat a small piece (4 to 6 Oz) every day at lunch with one chicken breast.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2015, 03:14:17 am »
tried maha maha as well.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2015, 03:21:40 am »
mackerel as well.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2015, 03:52:43 am »
Orange roughy is amazing.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2015, 12:53:39 am »
Agree, now I mostly eat it and tuna.

Orange roughy is amazing.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2015, 09:29:40 am »
Yellowfin (ahi) tuna is my fave of the limited selection available in my area, then king salmon. I also eat oysters and sometimes halibut or fresh sardines, when available and I feel like it. When fresh salmon roe sacks occasionally become available, I like those too. They are much superior to any jarred roe (caviar) I've tried (and I've tried some top quality stuff that some rich friends shared). Most jarred roe tastes too salty and/or fishy to me and is way overpriced for the quality. A local market used to have some good stuff at reasonable prices, but they stopped carrying it (they didn't display it well or use signage, so they didn't build demand--I'm guessing they figured there wouldn't be much demand if they did and only kept it available for customers who asked about it). A tiny jar of it was a nice rare treat for little cost.

When I go fishing my favorite fish to catch and eat is actually small yellow perch, which is lucky because they're easy to catch and there's no limit on them. Catching bigger fish is fun, but I don't find them to be as tasty. The bigger they get it seems like the blander they get. I like rainbow trout too.

The seafood in my area is pricier than many other areas, apparently (probably because I'm far from an ocean), and other quality animal foods are generally significantly cheaper here (especially since the prices of some of them have come down a bit from their recent peak), so I tend to buy small amounts of what looks the best seafood--usually wild and in season and either the freshest available or fresh-frozen.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2015, 11:14:15 am »
Phil, a 2-hour drive is not "far from the ocean" to me. I live a good 6 hours from the ocean, but still manage to get decent seafood. I don't know why it would be expensive near you, other than it just being expensive in general because of demand.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2015, 07:11:18 pm »
I live more like 3 1/2 hours away from the port that the regional seafood gets shipped from (though I'll bet the vans and trucks speed to get it here quicker lol) and other seafood comes from much farther away (like the Pacific ocean, on the other side of the country). I do get quite good quality seafood, like I said. It's just not as cheap, plentiful or varied as others report in other areas. People in this area don't generally seem as big on seafood as some folks in this forum. I eat more than most people I know, thanks in part to my brother encouraging me and introducing me to sushi. Just about the only fish we ate as kids was the occasional frozen breaded "fish sticks", lol - though my grandmother did occasionally rave about the salmon in her home country. My father got sick of fish due to a job he had cleaning them as a youth, so he mostly didn't want to see or smell fish.
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>"When some one eats an Epi paleo Rx template and follows the rules of circadian biology they get plenty of starches when they are available three out of the four seasons." -Jack Kruse, MD
>"I recommend 20 percent of calories from carbs, depending on the size of the person" -Ron Rosedale, MD (in other words, NOT zero carbs) http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ogtan
>Finding a diet you can tolerate is not the same as fixing what's wrong. -Tim Steele
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Re: Fish
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2015, 07:28:34 pm »
Strictly speaking, my city, Vienna, is only 4 hours away at most from the sea, but I have to pay  about 50 euros a kilo at least for raw seafood that has almost always been prefrozen.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2015, 12:41:43 am »
The world food market have frozen yellowfin, quite cheap, haven't try it yet. Since is your favorite, I should try.

Yellowfin (ahi) tuna is my fave of the limited selection available in my area, then king salmon.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2015, 02:06:50 am »
Just one tip:-  do not buy these 2 fish:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oilfish

They can cause anal leakage, something I personally discovered to my shame.
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Re: Fish
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2015, 02:12:16 am »
I enjoy escolar. I just have to be careful not to eat more than a couple ounces at a time. The taste is wonderful, but it does cause me to fart orange oil.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2015, 09:23:16 am »
The world food market have frozen yellowfin, quite cheap, haven't try it yet. Since is your favorite, I should try.

Yellowfin (ahi) tuna is my fave of the limited selection available in my area, then king salmon.

Be warned that I found that one source was much better than others. They label the tuna "sushi grade," which I was skeptical of at first but proved to be the best. Pricey though, unfortunately. A couple of Asian restaurants I've tried also have good tuna and other fish sashimi, but I can't afford restaurant sashimi that often.
>"When some one eats an Epi paleo Rx template and follows the rules of circadian biology they get plenty of starches when they are available three out of the four seasons." -Jack Kruse, MD
>"I recommend 20 percent of calories from carbs, depending on the size of the person" -Ron Rosedale, MD (in other words, NOT zero carbs) http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ogtan
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Re: Fish
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2015, 09:24:40 am »
Just one tip:-  do not buy these 2 fish:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oilfish

They can cause anal leakage, something I personally discovered to my shame.
Wow!  :o Thanks for the warning.
>"When some one eats an Epi paleo Rx template and follows the rules of circadian biology they get plenty of starches when they are available three out of the four seasons." -Jack Kruse, MD
>"I recommend 20 percent of calories from carbs, depending on the size of the person" -Ron Rosedale, MD (in other words, NOT zero carbs) http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ogtan
>Finding a diet you can tolerate is not the same as fixing what's wrong. -Tim Steele
Beware of problems from chronic Very Low Carb

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Re: Fish
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2015, 10:33:42 am »
Wow!  :o Thanks for the warning.

You haven't really lived until you've farted orange-colored oil out while asleep, and thereby created a small orange stain on the bedsheets.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2015, 10:45:41 pm »
Thanks for this important information. Especially the former could be "mislabeled" as white tuna, I think probably should avoid mackerel unless you know what  exactly it is.

Just one tip:-  do not buy these 2 fish:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oilfish

They can cause anal leakage, something I personally discovered to my shame.

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Re: Fish
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2015, 10:49:14 pm »
then, your source is local? otherwise please share with us.


Be warned that I found that one source was much better than others. They label the tuna "sushi grade," which I was skeptical of at first but proved to be the best. Pricey though, unfortunately. A couple of Asian restaurants I've tried also have good tuna and other fish sashimi, but I can't afford restaurant sashimi that often.

 

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