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Off Topic / Re: Raw Paleo Diet Forum Statistics
« on: April 03, 2018, 04:42:38 am »
Though I am relatively new to the forum, I've also noticed that there is seemingly less activity nowdays. Looking at archived threads, it seems to me that they go deeper, by discussing topics for many more pages. In addition, I don't see old members on the forum anymore, which is a shame, because they have the most experience. I would love to find out how they are doing, in terms of health and diet.

On the other hand, I am glad to see that you (TD), Sabertooth and Eric are still active.

I'm still here too though less active than before, mainly because of what you wrote above: most of the ones who were responding and with whom we had interesting discussion have disappeared without a word, without saying goodbye. God knows what happened to them. For example I sent two PMs to Inger, but no answer.

Now there seem to be a rotation of newcomers who again disappear after a while and are replaced with new ones, who in turn soon disappear again!

General Discussion / Re: Storing raw meat
« on: March 11, 2018, 06:30:00 pm »
BTW, I eat a lot less mammals meat now and more fish, shellfish, poultry and eggs. We now have many ducks hens, cocks and we eat the males: were tasty meat. I'm convinced it's better and safer since their proteins are further away and more different than ours.

I wanted to add this to my above post, but it doesn't work. GS, are you still here?

General Discussion / Re: Storing raw meat
« on: March 11, 2018, 06:17:55 pm »
a small computer fan, placed inside fridge works well.  Wires are slim enough to not cause a leak when slipped through the door opening.   
Yes, that's what I've done in my new fridge.

I have been eating raw wild boar and raw moufflon in large quantities since c.2010/2011-2015, with lesser amounts consumed since then. Never had a problem.

Me too, a lot of wild boar but moufflon only once. If the animals live in their natural environment, not too polluted areas, have no access to garbage and human denatured foods, I confidently eat their meat and I've never been aware of any parasite infestation.
"Privately raised" means they feed them with God knows what.

Off Topic / Re: Interesting insight into Indonesian Hunter-Gatherer tribe
« on: January 07, 2018, 03:42:01 am »
What is your standard of health? Being obese? These guys look fine and healthy to me.

It happens that I have a book in which there's a chapter about these people of Mentawai, with nice photos also!. I remember very well reading the text about them, really cool guys. I'm happy to learn that they are still living the same peaceful and undisturbed life!  :)

How does a plastic bag taste?  ;)

Off Topic / Re: What are you currently reading, watching, learning?
« on: November 16, 2017, 07:42:31 pm »
Thanks, ys! Excellent posts.

Off Topic / Re: Origin of plastic in oceans
« on: October 13, 2017, 02:48:56 am »
The study follows a recent report that pointed the finger at China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam for spewing out most of the plastic waste that enters the seas.

The Yangtze has been estimated in previous research to dump some 727 million pounds of plastic into the sea each year. The Ganges River in India is responsible for even more - about 1.2 billion pounds.

A combination of the Xi, Dong and Zhujiang Rivers (233 million lbs per year) in China as well as four Indonesian rivers: the Brantas (85 million lbs annually), Solo (71 million pounds per year), Serayu (37 million lbs per year) and Progo (28 million lbs per year), are all large contributors.
It's not really surprising. Most people in these countries have no idea of the problem and they don't care at all.

General Discussion / Re: hanging meat in your fridge
« on: October 09, 2017, 03:56:56 am »
 ;D  My bad. I wanted to ask  how often we have to use the "FAN" in order to air them? I hope we don't have to keep the fan on for 24 hours a day.

It depends on the temperature and what you intend to achieve. The meat can stay at ambient temperature in still air for a while, but for my taste it ages better with a fan, if at room temperature. Outside in cool temperature or in a basement, it can be kept without a fan. Just check often how it evolves and if the smell suits your taste!

While traveling in a van, I hung a chunk of meat under the rear view mirror and kept it in the wind with a window open when driving... ;)

General Discussion / Re: hanging meat in your fridge
« on: October 08, 2017, 06:26:15 pm »
(1) Is it enough to preserve the meat in such Pantry (without the Fridge)?
(2) For how many weeks/months could be meat hanged in this way?
(3) How often does we have to air, and for how long?
(1) Yes, but it will age quickly depending on the ambient temperature and humidity. Better with a fan in front.
(2) it varies according to the temperature, humidity and size of the chunks. In a fridge, 2-3 months. If the fridge is auto-defrosting, it generally needs a fan. If it is an old fridge with manual defrosting, the meat will become dry quickly and too hard to chew after some weeks, depending of the size of the chunks.
(3) When hung like this it is always aired!

The thing from e-bay looks fine.


I concur with Eric. Just add that you should easily be able to find wild fish and shellfish in Florida. Meat satisfying to our requirements is hard to find in most places and when I don't have any, I rely on seafood for animals' proteins.

BTW, have you been affected by the hurricane?

Off Topic / Re: Give us a laugh !
« on: September 09, 2017, 04:14:16 am »
What is something you don't want to hear the captain say on an airplane?

Alec Radosavljevic, Teenager, Glider Pilot, Actor, Scuba Diver, Skier, Gamer
Answered Aug 22

During landing the PA came on…

“Oh fuck. Shit. More power.”

“Fuck, I don't think we'll make it”

“Should we go around? “

“No we'll force it down.”

“Oh fuck. Oh fuck. Hold on”

“Retard, retard”


plane lands

“Holy fucking fucking shit man.”

“Hahaha you were so lucky!”

Throughout the whole landing passengers sat in the brace position. Some praying. Some crying. Some screaming.

PA comes back on

“Ladies and gentlemen welcome to Zagreb, Croatia where local time is twenty five past eleven. We apologise for the little bump in the landing, this is very normal. Have a good evening.”

The pilots came out of the cockpit smiling at passengers as they fought to disembark the plane.

One of the flight attendants went to the captain and quietly said to him “The PA was on during landing”.

The pilot and co-pilot gave eachother the ‘oops we fucked up' look and laughed.

True story. Hopefully pilots keep their conversations to themselves next time.


General Discussion / Re: Moldy meat
« on: September 02, 2017, 07:38:28 pm »
If i get meat vacuum packed in plastic, I also take it out ASAP to hang it on a hook in the fridge. Sometimes I eat some of it more or less fresh, specially the fat and liver, but I generally prefer the muscle aged and even more so in a state as in first photos in the post I linked above. 
See the photos here:

General Discussion / Re: To salt or not to salt, that is the question!
« on: September 02, 2017, 07:11:41 pm »
But salt is a processed and cooked stuff :)
I wrote:
We get salt from shellfish, seaweeds, sea water. 
Maybe I wasn't clear: I meant "we get salt when we eat shellfish and seaweeds or by drinking sea water".

I agree it shouldn't be left here.

Hot Topics / Re: Are teas out?
« on: September 01, 2017, 11:44:33 pm »
These cows are not paleo, you're right. Better eat wild animals meat.

Hot Topics / Re: Are teas out?
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:23:52 am »
I suppose eating poison hemlock is paleo because for sure a lot of our paleo ancestors ate it and died from it. Good grief!

Lors de rares intoxications accidentelles, on a parfois invoqué une confusion possible de sa racine avec le panais, le céleri, le navet, et même de la plantule avec le persil, mais le risque apparaît bien maigre en raison de la grande différence de taille et de l'odeur nettement désagréable qui rappelle l'urine de souris ou de chat surtout quand on la froisse, alors que le persil a une odeur agréable caractéristique. Par ailleurs elle est couverte de taches rouges sur les tiges, toujours absentes chez le persil.

Toutefois, un cas d'empoisonnement avéré prouve que l'odeur et la description ne suffisent pas à décourager certaines personnes de consommer cette plante. Le 4 mai 1922, à L'Orignal, petite municipalité majoritairement francophone de l'Ontario, au Canada, sept membres d'une famille qui en comptait neuf, périrent en l'espace de quatre heures, après avoir consommé de la racine de ciguë bouillie.

In occasional accidental poisoning, occasional confusion of its root with parsnip, celery, turnip, and even its young leaves with parsley has sometimes been suggested, but the risk appears very small due to the large size difference and of the distinctly unpleasant odor that recalls the urine of mice or cat especially when it is crushed, while parsley has a characteristic pleasant odor. Moreover, it is covered with red spots on the stems, always absent in parsley.

However, a case of proven poisoning proves that the smell and description are not enough to discourage some people from consuming this plant. On May 4, 1922, at L'Orignal, a small, predominantly French-speaking municipality in Ontario in Canada, seven members of a nine-member family died within four hours after consuming boiled hemlock root.

So the people in zero carb are against zero carb? Uhh....
And yah, I would keep protein to like 25% or so, rest from fat.

The diet of our ancestors wasn't "zero carb"! They didn't have such an ideology! "Zero carb" is not paleo, it's a modern invention.
Neanderthal dental tartar reveals plant-based diet – and drugs

General Discussion / Re: To salt or not to salt, that is the question!
« on: August 30, 2017, 08:41:26 pm »
I will admit that if I taste anything that's salty, it will taste good. But just because something tastes good, doesn't mean it's good for you. In my view.
What you wrote is right with processed, cooked and mixed stuff, but false with raw, unprocessed and unmixed "paleo" stuff, aka things that have been around in our environment ever since millions of years. Otherwise our predecessors in our evolutionary lineage would have all died from poisoning themselves by toxic stuff that tasted good to them, and we wouldn't be here!

General Discussion / Re: To salt or not to salt, that is the question!
« on: August 30, 2017, 02:26:08 pm »
We get salt from shellfish, seaweeds, sea water. 

Man oh man, I hope zero carb is a solution.
I certainly won't be. Too much animal proteins, especially from mammals, is most probably even dangerous in your case. Eat 100% raw, unprocessed, unmixed and un-spiced, but for God's sake avoid ZC!

Hot Topics / Re: Are teas out?
« on: August 29, 2017, 10:21:44 pm »
Humans also ingest large numbers of natural chemicals from cooking food. Over a thousand chemicals have been reported in roasted coffee: more than half of those tested (19/28) are rodent carcinogens. There are more rodent carcinogens in a single cup of coffee than potentially carcinogenic pesticide residues in the average American diet in a year, and there are still a thousand chemicals left to test in roasted coffee.

In the 60's GCB with help of friends did thorough such experiments on animals, mostly mice, hundreds of them. AFAIK he was the first to suspect something was wrong with dairy in our diet. Pottenger and Price researches had been done long before, at a time when no one ever suspect milk and dairy since they were considered "natural foods", as white as angels!

You have GCB's book, since I send it to you in pdf. Why don't you read it?   

See also this paper:

Both, Pottenger and Price, compared diets of cooked various foods including cooked milk or dairy against diets of various raw foods including raw dairy. Of course, they found out that populations (of cats and humans) having a raw diet had a better health than those having a partly or completely cooked diet!

They didn't compare populations having a raw diet without dairy against populations having a raw diet with dairy.   

In his studies and writings Weston Price didn't identify dairy as a cause of bones weakening. But other authors did. I referenced some of their articles available online here:,8.msg15.html#msg15 (scroll down for English ones).

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