I would not EVER salt meat for keeping longer. This is not natural or healthy by any means IMHO. If you want salt put it on the food as you eat it? I do not like pre-salted meat or fish. I do not think it was ever done before modern times.

I have a piece of grassfed beef liver in my fridge open on a wooden plate for many weeks now and I just love the taste. I just cut slices and eat off the slab. Yum! No need for salt!

Fun is good for health for sure lol

I should be dead by now eating huge amounts of meat for years and years...lol
but I feel better and better instead.... ? it is almost scary 

it could be the nipple stimulation tho....  who knows?

I have not seen raw butter and cream here at all. Only raw goats and cow milk, at the Ruohonjuuri shop in Helsinki, Kamppi

I sometimes eat the French President butter, it is not raw but the best tasting I have seen here so far. It is salted with real sea salt, and it is grassfed AFAIK
Not ideal of course. But works somehow. I also have ordered from Austria, raw grassfed butter. It is very good. They send it here too and I bet to Estonia too. Google Schätze in Österreich

Wow.. your dog is so beautiful...! No wonder, eating such great foods... happy dog 

Celeste.. cutting carbs 100% (or very close to) will make you less "vulnerable" I guess. At least that is my own N=1 But otherwise feeling bad about "bad stuff" is very natural I think. It is kind of good to be sensitive to it, protects you from doing bad / hurt others too

I have the same issue suffering a lot when I see others suffering, I just hate it! But me too have had to learn, everyone have the freedom to choose their way, even if it is hurting themselves. So I have learned to just "keep some space" mentally from others to not try to help too much. And still always be there for them and help if they wish me to. If I feel the moment is right I also tell my opinion, in a kind way, not trying to push it. Just so people know there is other options too... if they want. 

It is very challenging mentally to live different than most and take good care of ones health and then see how other destroys their and complain and suffer... and at the same time be able to stay open and always helpful to that person - continuing to walk your path even if completely alone.

But actually those challenges are great for me, I think. Life was not meant to be easy    it is just to find the joy in challenges. It is pretty cool 

There are days I feel totally lost I can tell you! But it always passes... and most days I feel so happy I am kind of feeling guilty!

If I was you I would give your sister the book of Lynne Farrow about Iodine. I really would do that. To give books is a nice way to help, and if she is not interested now, she might be one day and read it then! The book is very inexpensive and you get it on amazon. I get someone is not ready to eat a raw diet with raw meat and stuff, but to try the Iodine protocol might be a beginning, so many women have gotten help from it. The author had breast cancer too and healed from it. It is an easy read too.

If your sister is a fan of sushi you could tell her about the great things raw seafood does for women's breasts/hormones. There are studies too out there about it. There is something in raw fish that suppresses the "bad estrogen" if I remember right, so in countries where they eat lots of raw fish they have way less breast cancer. Tell it to your sister, there are many delicious raw dishes with seafood to eat out there, like sashimi, chevice... etc

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even the native Americans that were pretty much ZC most of the year ate wild berries and greens and plants etc. so there might be something to it that we need those too, for optimal health. I have never been without them for long time either. I believe in using everything in nature (the natural stuff not the cultivated) but those have so little carbs you pretty much run on fat anyways.

I am many days ZC (0 carbs) and many days VLC. In summer/fall I can eat me full on wild berries.... I eat and eat and eat until I want no more. But the wild berries here have very little carbs... and they are crazy delicious!!! I never ever had any issues eating those. But, I cannot even eat apples from our own garden without reacting in some way. Cultivated fruit for me = not healthy. My own N=1

This discussion is getting pretty funny LOL
I am thinking like Van and 24isours, it is not about ZC and VLC, it is about being able to burn fat for fuel/ketosis. And not NEEDING carbs, but just feel great having none at all. No carb cravings. No hunger pangs. No blood sugar swings.

IMO a healthy human is able to do that without issues. Because we have faced it all the way during the evolution... times when we had nothing else as meat/fat/seafood to eat or even worse... nothing at all so we had to live on our own fat reserves. I 100% believe we are adapted to do this. And I think it is good for us too. Look how many people have started to eat LCHF here in Scandinavia, and they are thriving. They eat cooked! Especially people who live in countries with a winter season are very well adapted to this. But even in Africa etc. are times of the year where is little or no fruits to find (dry periods etc)

For me, the unnatural way is to eat heavily cultivated, overly sweet and big fruits... from around the world... totally unnatural to the climate we might live in or the season we are in. what is natural about that, in the end?

Do they taste good? Oh yes! That is why I was not able to quit eating the either. I was addicted to those sweeties 

You guys may be talking about aquatic life from brackish water, rivers, lakes... not just from the ocean?

Seafood from lakes and rivers have some Iodine too and other important minerals

I would not eat too much of the seaweed in Baltic Sea. I live close to the coast too. But I buy my seaweed from France / Orkos. The water in Baltic Sea is not that salty.. and pretty polluted too. So if you are able to get seaweeds from the Atlantic I would recommend that.
I   have munched on some seaweed though in summer when I am by the coast, there are  no seaweeds that are poisonous AFAIK. I eat the ones I find tasty.

I think our brain needs Iodine to be able to use ketones well so an Iodine deficient person would have issues with a ketotic diet.

Tyler... you say you got thirsty. Did you had more water then? How much did you have / day, do you remember? What kind of water, tap water or spring/other high quality water?
How much protein did you eat and how much fat... about.

How was your diet looking previous to your raw ZC experiment. Your lifestyle? Did you work a lot on the computer... spending much time indoors and going late to bed?

(I am wondering about EMF exposure because it is dehydrating and would make the transition worse)

Sorry if I am curious but I really am...

Oh my PP, you really are on a trip..? hehe

That is kind of ridiculous what you are writing above. You even suggest to get the zero carbers here banned? Wow.

I can tell you raw meat has a lot of bacteria! As has raw oysters... and seafood.. and.. about anything on this earth..lol

I really wonder how other carnivore species survive... 

I think it has to do with our mitochondria being rather bad... or something not working properly in the body, why you do not tolerate a ZC diet. I think it would be important to get labs done to sort out the issues. We are meant to be able to function and burn fat for fuel as human. That is why we have fat on our bodies too. When we cannot, we should not blame the diet but look what is wrong with our body instead and fix it.

I think most of us drink way too little water. And chlorinated tap water won't do. It needs to be spring or well water or RO. The water quality is a big issue.

Low carb flu = dehydration.....

I know CW is totally against a ZC diet - so it will not be hard to find studies that support its dangers (you should look closer at the studies tho and you will soon realize their are all flawed and no way to be used to show a good quality RAF diet is dangerous) but that does not concern me at all. CW is full of crap anyways.

In Sweden the government have now accepted the high fat low carb diet to be a healthy option to reverse illness. Believe it or not! It is the first country in the world that does this. The HFLC diet is now very popular in Sweden. So many people have gotten huge benefits from it. And it is not even raw. Imagine. They just cannot deny the benefits diabetics and overweight people etc. have gotten on this diet.

I surely believe high carbs especially fructose is not good for our health and longevity at all. Can we feel good from it short term? Of course. But better go and check your labs and teeth... they will give you a hint where you are going.

I very much believe wild carbs in season are great for us tho. But they are so different from the cultivated ones!