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Title: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 24, 2008, 05:30:07 am
My diet has changed many times.

The evolution...

Typical American Diet (eat whatever as long as you like how it taste)

All Natural Crap (eating based on foolish food labels and popular jibber jabber)

Vegan Diet  

Raw Vegan Diet

Started to exclude grain, legumes, dairy and tubers from this point and on....

Raw Omnivorous Diet #1 (included organic eggs and small amount of meat, was eating 5 to 6 meals a day)

Raw Diet #2 (snacking on fruits and/or nuts untill 1pm, then eating a big meal of nuts fruits  veggies and meat at 7pm)

Raw Omnivorous Diet #3 (stopped eating store bought nuts/seeds (only wild) and continue to discuard many other kinds of plants and only eating organic or wild vegetation, eating lighty all day and only after a work out, consist of hand full of berries or other organic fruit, then at about 3 to 4 hours before sleep I eat a big chunk of meat/organ/or other animal flesh comming from a wild animal or a animal fed their natural diet, with a small amount of some carrots or fruit depending on their size)

Raw Omnivorous Diet #4/color] Just eating one meal at night time. Only time I might eat during the day is when I might have a snack after a workout session. I don't buy any plant foods anymore, I just gather all of my plant foods and go carnivore in the winter. Exception: I do buy raw coconut fat occasionally.

Current Height: 5, 11         
                          Weight: 130 pounds         
                          Age:17
Age Started Raw Omnivore Diet: 16

Pictures Of some of My Meals I Consumed
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Meal8-24-08.jpg)
I ask myself two questions before eating something.
#1. If i was stranded in the wild with a few simple tools (rocks and sticks) would I be able to acquire it?
#2. If I could acquire it in its raw natural state would I become ill if I consumed it?



I will continue to write down changes in my diet... ;D
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Meals-Diet/TheOne.jpg)




Pictures I have took of vegetation I have gathered in my area!
Current Location: Milwaukee, WI USA


(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/8-26-082.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN0069.jpg)

Black Mulberry
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/BlackMulberry1.jpg)

Pear
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN0048.jpg)

Black Walnut
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN0051.jpg)

Tart Cherry
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/TartCherry3.jpg)

White Mulberry
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/WhiteMulberry3.jpg)

List Vegetation I Have Gathered

Fruits
(part of the plant that encases the seed)
Apple (some varieties)
Pear (some varieties)
Peach
Nectarine
Plum
Mulberry(white & black)
Gooseberry
Cherry (sour)
Raspberry (red & black)
Blackberry
Grapes

Fruits: Nuts
(kernal encased in husk and/or shell)
Black Walnut
Hickory Nuts

Vegetables
(fungi, and any part of the plant that is not the seed encaseer)
Carrot
Dandelion Greens

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: rawlion on August 04, 2008, 10:16:29 pm
Hi Sully

Do you always feel improvement with every change you make?

Yuri
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 05, 2008, 01:13:40 am
Hi Sully

Do you always feel improvement with every change you make?

Yuri
yes, it seems when I increase my plant consumption or eat alot during day hours the less energy I have. The best thing working for me now is one big meal with most of the calories comming from meats and/or organs. Also many vegetables don't digest very well with me. I get kinda bloated. for example.

1lb of carrots vs 1lb of muscle meat

I might feel bloated if i eat that much carrots. My stomach feels calm and somewhat empty but satisfied if i eat the same amount in beef. Although carrot roots are the one vegetable that digest very well with me.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Nicola on August 05, 2008, 03:05:46 am
Where most of my calories are comming from. Biggest to smallest...
1. Organic Beef Muscle
2. Organic/Wild Fruit
3. Organic Carrots (usually yellow carrots)
4. Organic Cow Liver


Most calories? What about animal fat!

Nicola
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: rawlion on August 05, 2008, 03:15:00 pm

To avoid this bloated feeling I'd suggest eating animal and plant foods separately. Mr. Aajonus says that "Combining acidic and alkaline foods often neutralizes digestibility, resulting in toxins that deprive us of nutrients." He also says that fats are neutral & may be consumed with either acidic or alkaline foods. So you may try eating from plant kingdom during the day and have you last meal of aminal proteins. Or, as an alternative, eat all your vegetables with fats, as it will promote assimilation of some fat soluble nutrients. In any way try to avoid mixing animal proteins with vegetables.

Yuri
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 06, 2008, 02:45:47 am
To avoid this bloated feeling I'd suggest eating animal and plant foods separately. Mr. Aajonus says that "Combining acidic and alkaline foods often neutralizes digestibility, resulting in toxins that deprive us of nutrients." He also says that fats are neutral & may be consumed with either acidic or alkaline foods. So you may try eating from plant kingdom during the day and have you last meal of aminal proteins. Or, as an alternative, eat all your vegetables with fats, as it will promote assimilation of some fat soluble nutrients. In any way try to avoid mixing animal proteins with vegetables.

Yuri
i'm a mono eater. I eat my meat first then plants during my meal(i don't get bloated if I do that). But do you consider that mixing? What i ment to say is that if I sit down and eat only carrots for a meal I'll get bloated much faster then eating only meat. (not that i eat only carrots for a meal, it's just for example) I thought that's what are hunter gathererer anscestors did usually. Women gathered, men hunted. When men arrived with meat. They ate their meal. Right?  ???
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 06, 2008, 02:49:59 am
Most calories? What about animal fat!

Nicola
Isn't there fat in the meats I buy? I bought some meat today. i asked for something in particular...he mentioned he cuts the fat off the sides while explaining why the meats already out were small. Should I be eating that stuff? Should i ask and see if I can get it?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Nicola on August 06, 2008, 05:07:19 am
Isn't there fat in the meats I buy? I bought some meat today. i asked for something in particular...he mentioned he cuts the fat off the sides while explaining why the meats already out were small. Should I be eating that stuff? Should i ask and see if I can get it?

Try adding animal fat (marrow and suet as most meats have little fat); it's better for you than nuts and bolts.

You are doing well; after all you are only 17 years!

Take care, Nicola
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 06, 2008, 06:11:05 am
Try adding animal fat (marrow and suet as most meats have little fat); it's better for you than nuts and bolts.

You are doing well; after all you are only 17 years!

Take care, Nicola
Sounds good in todays world but....doesn't everyone wish they started when they were born.... :'(
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: rawlion on August 06, 2008, 02:18:02 pm
Sounds good in todays world but....doesn't everyone wish they started when they were born.... :'(

Yeah, surely... And with my current problems I wish I had never started...

Yuri
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: rawlion on August 06, 2008, 02:21:35 pm
i'm a mono eater. I eat my meat first then plants during my meal(i don't get bloated if I do that). But do you consider that mixing? What i ment to say is that if I sit down and eat only carrots for a meal I'll get bloated much faster then eating only meat. (not that i eat only carrots for a meal, it's just for example) I thought that's what are hunter gathererer anscestors did usually. Women gathered, men hunted. When men arrived with meat. They ate their meal. Right?  ???

Yes, I thought you were eating both vegetables and meats at the same meal. However, since you eat these foods separately, you are unlikely to experience any side-effects of such regimen.
As regards habits of our anscestors your suggestion might be true.

Yuri
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 07, 2008, 06:10:28 am
Yes, I thought you were eating both vegetables and meats at the same meal. However, since you eat these foods separately, you are unlikely to experience any side-effects of such regimen.
As regards habits of our anscestors your suggestion might be true.

Yuri
yeah i'll just eat my fruits or roots first since they digest quicker, i ate my meat first before, but i got your link and read it, it makes since to eat the fruits and veggies first so they don't wait on the slower digesting meat and start to age in my belly, thanks for the link!  :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: rawlion on August 07, 2008, 07:03:29 pm
I agree with Dr. Bass ideas...

However, some contradicting opinion also do exist... Have a look at the following statements by Aajonus:

"Concerning Whole Vegetables (Salads)
Rarely should we eat whole vegetables but when we do, vegetables should not be eaten sooner than I hour after any other food.
Vegetables move through the intestines slowly. Acidic foods will catch up with them and interfere with digestion. Therefore, no other food should be eaten within 5 hours after eating a vegetable salad."

and

"Salad may be eaten once every 2 to 4 weeks, or not at all. It would be better for digestion if that salad, if eaten, were eaten as the last food of that day. Whole vegetable salads often cause constipation on a raw diet by neutralizing acidic bacteria responsible for forming stools in the bowels and by interfering with digestion of other food."

Here is a Shelton oriented approach:

"When you eat proteins like poultry, fish, meat, and eggs, your stomach secretes hydrochloric acid and the enzyme pepsin to break down the food in a highly acidic environment. When you eat starches like potatoes or bread, your stomach secretes the enzyme ptyalin to create an alkaline condition.

If you eat proteins and starches together, they tend to neutralize each other and inhibit digestion. The poorly-digested food travels through the digestive tract reaching the intestines where it putrefies and causes your blood to become acidic. It also provides a welcome environment for disease-causing pathogens!

To keep this from happening, avoid combining proteins and starches (including grains, like rice, and starchy vegetables, like potatoes) in the same meal. Instead, have non-starchy vegetables and ocean vegetables with your protein meals to achieve optimal digestion.

Non-Starchy Vegetables Include: Leafy greens, broccoli, asparagus, cauliflower, carrots, bok choy, cabbage, celery, lettuces, green beans, garlic, fennel, onions, chives, turnips, sprouts, red radish, yellow squash, zucchini, cucumber, beets

Non-starchy vegetables and ocean vegetables digest well in acid OR alkaline environments, so they go with anything: proteins, oils and butter, grains, starchy vegetables, lemons and limes, and soaked and sprouted nuts and seeds..."

However, I strongly recommend you decide for yourself which way to choose. I mean, in theory everything may seem to be fine, but in practice you may realy feel the difference.

Yuri
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 08, 2008, 11:57:21 pm
The only vegetables i'm going to eat are

roots (only certain ones)
leafy greens(only certain ones)

I eat mostly fruits I find outside, I'm sticky to only three maximun different kinds of foods during my meals, and eating them all seperate,

i'm currently fasting for a few days
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 28, 2008, 01:04:39 am
My front page is updated!  ;D
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 28, 2008, 01:33:39 am
It's very cool how you're able to gather so many different fruits!

I think there are loquats(sp?) here in the spring. But should I be hesitant to eat fruits growing in a highly populated city?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: xylothrill on August 30, 2008, 01:08:39 pm
I like that graphic you made for beginners!

Craig
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: William on August 30, 2008, 09:17:14 pm

Here is a Shelton oriented approach:

"When you eat proteins like poultry, fish, meat, and eggs, your stomach secretes hydrochloric acid and the enzyme pepsin to break down the food in a highly acidic environment.

Most likely Shelton believed that everyone eats cooked poultry, fish, meat, and eggs.
When eaten raw, the stomach secretes no hydrochloric acid. Digestion will be different.

William
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: wodgina on August 30, 2008, 09:59:34 pm
So you if stared eating RAF at 16 years? that means you going to have 5 or so years of growing to do. Have you noticed anything yet eg. started growing again, change in facial structure? Actually I heard males grow up to 23 years of age.

You seem to work out hard and IF so you should have a fair amount of HGH floating around.

Sounds good in todays world but....doesn't everyone wish they started when they were born.... :'(

I believe having undamaged DNA in the Sperm and egg is the most important thing then after that receiving adequate nutrition in the womb without trauma/infection and then breast feeding. I think what your mother ate is just as important as what you eat.




Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Nicola on August 31, 2008, 03:59:29 am
Most likely Shelton believed that everyone eats cooked poultry, fish, meat, and eggs.
When eaten raw, the stomach secretes no hydrochloric acid. Digestion will be different.

William

Please explain and show proof/study about what you quote "the stomach secretes no hydrochloric acid - digestion will be different"!!!!!

At the moment I am watching a TV Program about the Neanderthaler - they say, that one needs special enzymes in the stomach to digest raw meat and that cooked meat is easier and more nutritious.

I just don't know; humans are full of wisdom, but where is the proof?

Nicola
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: William on August 31, 2008, 07:19:24 am
The proof that the stomach secretes hydrochloric acid was from experiments on a man who had been shot in the stomach; the wound never healed, leaving a hole. This was in the 1800s. Of course he was given only cooked.

See the works of Aajonus Vonderplantiz for the lack of need of HCl for raw. There was also Jean-Claude Catry of Salt Spring I., B.C., Canada, neither could secrete HCl, so had to eat all raw.

As for the TV Program about the Neanderthaler, raw meat contains all the necessary enzymes. The program is lying about cooked being more nutritious. Google mercola.com, search raw meat for this.

Proof comes from within.

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 01, 2008, 10:34:58 pm
So you if stared eating RAF at 16 years? that means you going to have 5 or so years of growing to do. Have you noticed anything yet eg. started growing again, change in facial structure? Actually I heard males grow up to 23 years of age.

You seem to work out hard and IF so you should have a fair amount of HGH floating around.

I believe having undamaged DNA in the Sperm and egg is the most important thing then after that receiving adequate nutrition in the womb without trauma/infection and then breast feeding. I think what your mother ate is just as important as what you eat.





What is HGH? Oh of course I do wish I would have started a healthy diet in the whom. But yes I have noticed differences since a change in diet. I just started to gather frequently and I'm currently increasing my raw animal food consumption. I'm going to start only eating plant foods I can gather myself. So in winter time I'll be almost completely carnivore. Only store bought plants I'll buy are organic carrots and or berries. And very occassionally i'll buy local honey in the comb. I also can find tons of grass hoppers to eat during a certain time of the year.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: William on September 01, 2008, 11:58:35 pm
Actually I heard males grow up to 23 years of age.
/quote]

All growth ends at 32.
The last thing is the hardening of a layer at the ends of bones; This is why traditionally a man was considered to be in his prime in his thirties.

This is also why trolls claim that paleoman lived only to thirtytwo, then all died. Of Nothing! :D

William
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: wodgina on September 02, 2008, 08:47:13 am
What is HGH? Oh of course I do wish I would have started a healthy diet in the whom. But yes I have noticed differences since a change in diet. I just started to gather frequently and I'm currently increasing my raw animal food consumption. I'm going to start only eating plant foods I can gather myself. So in winter time I'll be almost completely carnivore. Only store bought plants I'll buy are organic carrots and or berries. And very occassionally i'll buy local honey in the comb. I also can find tons of grass hoppers to eat during a certain time of the year.

HGH is human growth hormone, is produced when working out hard and when you go without food (intermittent fasting) it's good for putting on muscle, skeletal building... the list goes on.
I like your idea of carnivore in winter wild omnivore in summer makes a lot of sense.
Actually I heard males grow up to 23 years of age.
/quote]

All growth ends at 32.
The last thing is the hardening of a layer at the ends of bones; This is why traditionally a man was considered to be in his prime in his thirties.

This is also why trolls claim that paleoman lived only to thirtytwo, then all died. Of Nothing! :D

William

Cheers for that William, I'm not suprised we keep growing I've noticed many sportsman can perform at an elite level well into their 30's so yeah the idea that all Paleomen dropped dead at 32 years is a joke.
For example a  32 year old male can easily young enough to still be fathering children and protecting them up to the age of say 13 years old when they could then start to hunt for and protect the younger people/mothers/elders.

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 19, 2008, 11:37:01 pm
A couple things to mention before you read...
-My mom is poor so I get food stamps, which means I can't get quality meat from ordering.

-I am in total control of the food stamp card, so my mom doesn't spend her money on my meat because she says its too expensive.

-I receive a raised $250 a month, that started recently.

-The only plants I eat are ones that I can gather myself.


My food stamp card is almost empty. It doesn't get refilled until Oct 1st or the 5th. I'm out of quality meat. There is chicken in the freezer. So I boiled it and plan on eating that for dinner tonight. However, the chicken is low quality not even labled, "Organic" or "ALL Natural". I'll eat it with some raw liver I let thaw out, only have about 4oz of liver left in freezer. I do have 7 dollars left on the card. I plan on buying some source of protein with it. Maybe eggs, or maybe low quality meat. I of course, will be eating the fat Lex sent me to help me out. There is no high quality fat I can get from the store except 100% pasture raised butter. The reason i need the fat is because the 100% pastured raised meat that I can buy from the store Is all ground and 95% lean. There is more boneless chicken breast in the freezer, I'll be eating that until I run out. Perhaps, my mom will buy me low quality meat until the food stamps come. When the stamps do come, I'll get $250. So I'll never run into this problem again of no quality meat again.

I don't think any of you would suggest eating the low quality chicken RAW? Or do you?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Satya on September 19, 2008, 11:50:40 pm
If the chicken has been in the freezer for 7 days at 0 F or longer at higher temp, any parasites will be dead.  Bacteria and such might be an issue, but you could marinate in citrus or vinegar for a couple hours to kill that.  In your situation, regardless of how you eat the meat, I would use the bones and make a stock to stretch the food source for more nutrients.  Eggs are an inexpensive source for protein and fat too.  Can you gather any nuts or anything now?

Best wishes!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 19, 2008, 11:51:25 pm
Mixing low quality meat with high quality fat is what i will do for now. I just got to work with what I got. It will all work out.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 19, 2008, 11:57:16 pm
In your situation, regardless of how you eat the meat, I would use the bones and make a stock to stretch the food source for more nutrients.  
The chicken I have is boneless. But mixing that with my rendered fat lex sent me will do for now. i can get black walnuts. They take a bunch of energy to get, smash the husk with a brick, then smashing the shell, then some of the bitter husk stuff gets on the nuts sometimes, but sometimes all that energy is fun to blow off to get a tasty nut. Low quality meat mixed with the high quality fat will be OK for now.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 20, 2008, 12:09:09 am
At school today I wore a sleeveless shirt with the sides slit all the way down. The school made me wear my sweater for gym. I have to wear my sweater all day. or maybe I'll find some pins to pin together my shirt on the side.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: wodgina on September 20, 2008, 05:41:27 am
I noticed that some butchers around me who when haven't sold all their meat for the week will grind it up and package and freeze as raw pet food and sell it for $3 a kilo.

I supermarket near me sells ok tasting 'budget' fatty hamburger mince for $1.99 a kg!

So if I was ever in financial difficulties i've got these to fall back on.

It's taken me a couple of years to notice these cheap meats.

I local butcher also gave me fat for free! ask around be cheeky you may find some generous butchers or claim your a bit short of money and need to feed your dog.. Or even go dumpster diving, I did when I was really poor.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: lex_rooker on September 20, 2008, 06:58:54 am
I noticed that some butchers around me who when haven't sold all their meat for the week will grind it up and package and freeze as raw pet food and sell it for $3 a kilo.

Sully,
As Andrew says, many markets will mark down their meat substantially in price when it starts to discolor.  Anything they can't sell is usually put in the waste bin (along with fat trimmings etc) that goes to the rendering plant.  You might ask your local butcher to save this meat for you, telling him you want it for your dog.  Selling it to you at 1/2 price or maybe even less is far more than they get from throwing it in the waste bin. I've gotten meat this way many times.  Sometimes I get turned down, but you'll never know unless you ask.  If one butcher says no then try another.

Persistence can really payoff...

Lex
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 21, 2008, 08:27:52 pm
I have 20 dollars from baby sitting, i was thinking about giving it to my sisiter so she can get me some slankers pet food with her credit card. Any suggestions? Is their pet food leen?

Before I got this 20, i was really thinking about hunting rabbits at night.

Anyways, my mom is broke so I can't rely on her, she won't buy me anything. This 20 is all I got until I get food stamps on the 5th.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 21, 2008, 08:50:47 pm
Nevermind, I think their shipping cost makes it not worth it.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on September 24, 2008, 08:54:24 pm
I believe Slanker's has a minimum order of $75 for shipping.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: coconinoz on September 25, 2008, 07:33:56 am
"life seems neither long nor short, & we take no more heed to save time or to make haste than do the trees & stars. this is true freedom, a good practical sort of immortality.
"... 1 is constantly reminded of the infinite lavishness & fertility of nature -- inexhaustible abundance amid what seems enormous waste. & yet when we look into any of her operations that lie within reach of our minds, we learn that no particle of her material is wasted or worn out. it is eternally flowing from use to use, beauty to yet higher beauty, & we soon cease to lament waste & death, & rather rejoice & exult in the imperishable, unspendable wealth of the universe, & faithfully watch & wait the reappearance of everything that melts & fades & dies about us, feeling sure that its next appearance will be better & more beautiful than the last"

(from 1st summer by john muir, who was born in scotland & relocated to wisconsin at age 11)

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 02, 2008, 11:34:26 pm
i'm going to do zero carb pretty soon. After apples and walnut are out of season zero carb will begin. I will post when I begin and how I feel along the way.

I am very active and exersize twice daily. Actually three time if you count gym at school.
It will be interesting to see how I, a very active person does on zero carb.   I will be eating one meal a day. At 6 or 7pm

Tonights meal.

2-4 apples, 2 eggs,  a little over 1 pound of 85% lean ground beef, then about 8oz of walnuts.


Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 08, 2008, 11:29:10 pm
Started zero carb. been doing it for 2 days now. No noticeable changes in energy.

Although after I consumed my one meal at night the last past days I get pretty tired like. Although, in the morning I feel rejuvenated.
 
I didn't poop as usually this morning, perhaps I am constipated from the fat. I'm sure my body will adapt to that soon though.

No problem lifting weights or exercising.

Getting leaner, and my face complexion is getting even clearer.

It's funny though, I'm satisfied with only about 2 pounds of meat a day, even less sometimes. I'm eating 85% lean ground beef, sometimes a bit of grass fed fat, Its rendered fat lex sent me, because i have no source of raw pasture fat due to money issues.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Nicola on October 09, 2008, 02:47:51 am
It's funny though, I'm satisfied with only about 2 pounds of meat a day, even less sometimes. I'm eating 85% lean ground beef, sometimes a bit of grass fed fat, Its rendered fat lex sent me, because i have no source of raw pasture fat due to money issues.

Boy Sully; a meat and fat diet is not just "sometimes a bit of grass fed fat" - lean ground beef AND quite a bit of fat!!!!!!!

Nicola
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Kristelle on October 09, 2008, 06:40:06 am
Although after I consumed my one meal at night the last past days I get pretty tired like.

I also get tired after fatty meals since zero-carbing. Interestingly, since dropping estrogen, my health has improved and the fatigue factor is improving. I suspect it has something to do with our body's difficulty digesting fat, from not being used to it or something wrong with the liver/gallbladder or pancreas or even small intestines.

I didn't poop as usually this morning, perhaps I am constipated from the fat. I'm sure my body will adapt to that soon though.

Yes, I think so, if you are healthy. After dropping the estrogen, I no longer get constipated.

It's funny though, I'm satisfied with only about 2 pounds of meat a day, even less sometimes.

Yes, I don't eat much also. That is totally normal. Same with Lex.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 21, 2008, 12:04:06 am
I went off Raw paleo recently.
I ate a bunch of junk the past few days. Don't even want to say what it was.

I am sick right now with a sore throat and sniffles.  -v
I am glad to experince this and it motivates me never to eat cooked or processed foods again. I would rather eat by myself and stay healthy than eat with others and destoy my body.

I worked out this morning even though I am sick. I'm eating a small plate of cauliflower, with 8oz ground beef, and some fresh coconut tonight. I'm staying away from sweet foods for a while. Even fruit, I can't control myself when I eat too much sweet foods.

I'm going to stick with very low in sugar vegetables from the farmer markets for my only plant consumption with the occassional fresh coconut (only if I'm not satisfied with the 8 - 10 oz of meat a day that I can afford).

All symptons of sickness will go away in 1-2 days!!!! Lets make some bets???? Anyone? ;D
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 21, 2008, 12:06:32 am
Boy Sully; a meat and fat diet is not just "sometimes a bit of grass fed fat" - lean ground beef AND quite a bit of fat!!!!!!!

Nicola
I know this. I will eventually try carnivore again when i can afford quality animal foods. That will be when I get a job.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 21, 2008, 12:08:25 am
Another thing to add,

I'm glad I'm young, and heal quickly...
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 21, 2008, 12:18:58 am
hope you feel better soon man
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 21, 2008, 11:22:13 pm
hope you feel better soon man
I'm feeling fine today. The soar throat went down dramatically. My noes stopped leaking too.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: phatdave on May 23, 2009, 11:04:05 pm
If you started when you were born, you might be healthier stronger. But perhaps at the loss of other things that are benefitial.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: phatdave on May 28, 2009, 05:42:37 am
If you started when you were born, you might be healthier stronger. But perhaps at the loss of other things that are benefitial.

but crytic, i kinda just meant, "oh well, but it was probably fun anyway" kinda thing.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 06, 2009, 12:20:49 am
Its been a lot of ups and downs with diet and motivation these past months, I am slowly working my way back up mentally. I plan on being more truthful with the way things are going for me.

I first started eating only raw paleo foods and eating six meals a day. I joined the forum and have learned of the success of eating one meal a day. I did it. I had one big plate of food around 7pm every day. 3/4 of the plate was filled with fruit, 1/4 with nuts. And I ate a small piece of meat too, about 3oz to 6oz. I ate the raw meat first cause I didn't like the taste, then the fruit, then my nuts. I felt much better than before and lost a lot of weight. I noticed improvements in my health but it seemed to stop progression after a while. My acne on my back did go completely away and my complexion was very clear. I pooped every morning too. I was very thin, and pretty toned too. I practiced martial arts every day I believe, at the time. I also lifted light and heaving weights with multiple sets, many of them were kinda unnatural movements in unnatural positions but most were OK. After this I experienced a lot of ups and downs on trying new things I learned about diet, I learned of food combining, anti-nutrients in nuts, grass fed meat and its importance and superiority to grain fed meats, zero carb etc, etc. I became addicted to carbs and was frustrated with what was best for me and binged a lot, ate grains, cereal milk cheese, whatever, highly processes candies, even a caramel apple ate once. I witnessed returning acne and increase of fat, but also increased muscle mass, but even though I never looked fat by today's standards. My highest was 160 or over. Compared to my one meal a day when I got to 135 or lower.

Present:
After months of ups and downs I truly want to adapt to zero carb and relinquished this food addiction I created through confusion and emotional eating. I have been eating fruit this past month but have been eating more meat. Acne cleared up again and I feel better. I made some changes in exercise and feel and look good. My addiction to carbs is pretty much gone mentally.Been doing pretty good these past few weeks, I have just started zero carb yesterday. After lowering fruit consumption slowly.

My Current Exercise Regimen:(I still practice martial arts because I love it, but have lowered it down to a few simple and effective techniques that are more natural movements, and of course I do other exercise that appear in my regular life and I walk alot)


Monday: Hand and Elbow Strikes. (standing only)

Tuesday: Leg and knee strikes. (standing only)

Wednesday: Pull-ups, dips, push ups. (one set each as many reps as I can do) Gripper machine one set as many as I can do. I run up and down stairs, up once and down once counts as 1, I do a certain amount depending on how big the flight of stairs or grassy hill is.

Thursday: Ground strikes, wrestling, and submissions.

Friday: Sparring or or just mixing everything together when training.

Saturday: I take 2 dumbbells in each hand, get in squat position, dumbbells just above floor, squat up, curl, than push them over my head, reverse movement, and repeat until I can't do anymore, one set. Gripper machine one set as many as I can do. Stair/hill exercise again.

Sunday: No planned exercise.

I gain more and maintain muscle with less weight lifting and more meat and less carbs
I will soon put pictures of my physical transformation and my current exercises. Thanks for reading.

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: lex_rooker on August 06, 2009, 01:50:35 am
Great to see you back Sully!  Yup, carbs are a tough habit to kick and few are successful.  In the wild, carbs are few and far between so our ability to eat them is self limiting.  Unfortuantely, in our modern world, carbs are easier to obtain (and appear to be cheaper) than good quality meat. 

Take it one day at a time. It will not be easy, but, for me, the end result has been well worth the effort and the social inconvienence.  I trust you will find the same if you stick it out.

I wish you all possible success in your journey.

Lex
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 06, 2009, 09:22:21 am
Thanks for your support Lex. I am  in Green Bay visiting my sister with one of my sisters who lives in Milwaukee close to me. They picked wild raspberries. I came close to eating them,I went the whole day without eating because I visited my sisters friends house.  I got back to my sisters house finally I ate three very very rare grass fed burgers with 2 organic eggs & olive oil because the meat seemed kinda lean.  I just ate around 8pm. I am determined to stick it out.  I found a local health food store in Green Bay that will supply me with grass fed meat while I am in Green Bay.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on August 17, 2009, 04:15:26 am
How's things going?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:15:00 am
Now I am currently doing martial arts 3 days a week, and weight lifting 3 days too(lifting tues, thurs, sat). Taking sunday off. I do different weight lifting exercises each day consentrating on different muscle groups. I started zero carb a while ago, but started over again a week ago because of traveling to Jordan. I met my father for the first time. I ate unseasoned rare and cooked meat with raw fruit while traveling. They actually gave me the kidneys of the sheep right after slaughter. :) Nice huh?

I feel good starting over about 5 days in with no noticable fatigue. Which I think Is unusual. Perhaps because I fasted about 1 day and a half or 2 days before starting zero carb again. I expected to get hit with fatigue. Only fruit carvings on day 1 &2.

My food consist of plain meat with no seasonings. I ate alot of jerky but plan on starting todays food transition to nothing but raw meat when I eat tonight. I will stick to zero carb for my whole life. I will not let traveling get in the way again.

I will put up pics of my travel to Jordan soon. ;)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:30:52 am
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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:31:37 am
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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:33:56 am
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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:35:44 am
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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:38:22 am
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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: yon yonson on October 15, 2009, 05:46:31 am
Sweet pics! that picture with the sheep is pretty awesome. so you got to eat the kidneys right there? were you able to get any good fat while traveling?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:55:51 am
Sweet pics! that picture with the sheep is pretty awesome. so you got to eat the kidneys right there? were you able to get any good fat while traveling?
Yup the kidneys were actually very good. I think they were kidneys... But good taste. I ate mainly lamb in the begginning, in the middle chicken (which I didn't like because it was probably on a grain based diet), and in the ending days of being in jordan red meat. My father paid for evrything. But there was plenty of fat served with my meat, I'm guessing definitly better qualty than corn fed beef in the usa.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 05:57:09 am
Yup the kidneys were actually very good. I think they were kidneys... But good taste. I ate mainly lamb in the begginning, in the middle chicken (which I didn't like because it was probably on a grain based diet), and in the ending days of being in jordan red meat. My father paid for evrything. But there was plenty of fat served with my meat, I'm guessing definitly better qualty than corn fed beef in the usa.
Even the fruits I ate were local.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: yon yonson on October 15, 2009, 06:19:52 am
cool, so im guessing the lamb and stuff was probably grass fed or at least not fed grain? how'd they react when you ate the raw kidney?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: William on October 15, 2009, 06:42:48 am
"A rose-red city,
half as old as Time"             

wrote an English poet of Petra. Was that it in the second-last photo?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 10:12:43 am
cool, so im guessing the lamb and stuff was probably grass fed or at least not fed grain? how'd they react when you ate the raw kidney?
My aunts husband who is killing the sheep just offered it to me, and said it was good. I ate it, and it was good. Thats pretty much it. Than they gave me some more later because I told them I beleive its healthy to eat it like that. I was talking to my aunts husband, he seemed to know about the animals eating only grass and it being the best way to produce tasty healthy meat. Some meat is grainfed. But many guys are to poor to offord grains on that scale I think, not sure. Next door a man had goats, I think they ate grains and leaves or grass. But most likley no injections of growth hromones or antibiotics.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2009, 10:15:09 am
"A rose-red city,
half as old as Time"             

wrote an English poet of Petra. Was that it in the second-last photo?
Yup thats it, I'm actually in the picture leaning against the pillar.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: phatdave on October 15, 2009, 06:12:56 pm
awesome pics man
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 25, 2010, 06:12:24 am
Wow haven't posted here in a while. Was going to start raw zero carb. But came across some fruit in my neighborhood. ;)
Well, I had only some raw wild salmon yesterday with skin of course. Today, just some grass fed beef liver right from Wisconsin, and the fruit you see here in the pictures. I think I'll try a seasonal thing with fruit, and then try zero carb in the winter. I am thinking about meat one day, fruit the next.
That's not a guaranteed plan though. I change my mind a lot. :D One things for sure though, I'll be staying 100% I mean 99% raw for a while. Was doing a mixture before cooked and raw. 100% raw for a couple days. Already seeing improvements.



I will definitely post some before and after pics in the weeks to come if there is some notable changes besides me not shaving. lol


(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5197.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5198.jpg)

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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 28, 2010, 03:42:52 am
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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 03, 2010, 07:48:49 am
Wild Black Raspberries & Wild Garlic Mustard Greens
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5211.jpg)

Trout
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5184.jpg)

Trout
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5185.jpg)

Killed A Rabbit Today With Pellet Rifle
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5226.jpg)

Rabbit Heart
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5229.jpg)

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Paleo Donk on July 03, 2010, 08:53:57 am
Your thumb lunula is a bit low



Seriously though, good shit
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 03, 2010, 10:50:11 am
thumb lunula? haha i had too look that up

thanks though
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: wodgina on July 03, 2010, 08:02:13 pm
great stuff, that heart is tiny.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 04, 2010, 04:04:50 am
great stuff, that heart is tiny.
yeah about the same size as a chicken heart, rabbit meat actually looks like chicken meat too, it turns white when you cook it also
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: actionhero on July 04, 2010, 04:47:00 am
Killed A Rabbit Today With Pellet Rifle

Did you drink the blood and if so how did your body react?

I plan to kill a rabbit just to try warm blood and living organs.




Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 06, 2010, 09:49:57 am
Well, I hit it in the shoulder. I removed that because the pellet was made of lead. It seemed like blood clogged up in the area where I hit it.(forming a bruise? There wasn't tons of blood. I tried to slice an artery in the neck to see. Not lots of blood when I was cutting meat up. I Just butchered it then washed some fur off then froze it. I got meat, testes, some brain(tiny), liver, kidneys, heart. Blood might be in my meat still. It's something you have to experience yourself. I am thinking about getting a sling shot and using stones so I don't have to worry about the metals in bullets. I didn't eat anything on spot, was kinda early in the day and I wasn't hungry.

Next time I will start off the butchering process by slicing the throat over a bowl to see how much blood I can get.

The heart was tender and good btw. I got some beef heart now. Delicious.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 14, 2010, 07:18:17 am
WILD VS DOMESTICATED RASPBERRIES
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5264.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5266.jpg)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: michaelwh on July 14, 2010, 09:52:58 am
These exact same wild black raspberries grow in great abundance where I live. I gathered tons of them in the past month, and froze a good portion for the winter. However, they're guarded by thorns, and bloodthirsty mosquitoes. My arms and legs still have scratch marks on them. However, since going raw paleo, mosquito bites don't bother me much anymore. They itch for a few minutes, and then stop itching. When I was a kid eating a standard diet, mosquito bites would itch for days.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 15, 2010, 08:38:14 am
HaHA. i CAN DEFINITLY RELATE. i got some scratches from thorns too. Mosquitoes are pretty bad here too.
It doesn't bother me much either. :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 23, 2010, 03:57:16 am
Choke cherry

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5280.jpg)

http://www.wildfoods.info/wildfoods/chokecherry.html

poisonous look alikes, know your stuff before you eat!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 30, 2010, 08:44:47 am
Got these today, I got a lot of time on my hands. At least until I start school this fall.

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5282.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5283.jpg)

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Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 06, 2010, 06:16:30 am
I am making a website about wild foods. It's through a helper website weebly and it is free.
:)

I really enjoy foraging and primitive hunting. Although the only hunting I have done is with a pellet gun. I might buy a slingshot soon. I like that more. I could use rocks.
http://wildfoods.weebly.com/
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: raw on August 06, 2010, 01:56:27 pm
sully, i do get some wild cherries. when we eat wild, it's thousand times better than those farming food. i see your hand palm is very reddish, very good. your journal is very interesting indeed!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 06, 2010, 02:05:05 pm
Choke cherries? I guess my palm is red. IDK why. The exercise I do is kind of rough on the hands.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 09, 2010, 02:48:16 am
Wild Plum, not ripe yet but still got some pictures.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5302.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5297.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5296.jpg)

Description:  On average they are a half an inch to an inch in diameter and range in sizes. It's shape is usually circular but can be oblong. They grow on small trees ranging anywhere from 15-30 ft. There growth and ripeness can be monitored through their change in color. When they first appear they are green and eventually turn yellow. When they are yellow they soon get red blemishes. At this point you can take them home to complete their ripening. They are fully ripe when almost entirely red.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Cinna on August 09, 2010, 09:31:27 pm
Happy Birthday, Sully!!! I hope you have the most wonderful birthday ever. ;D
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 10, 2010, 12:47:56 am
Thanks Cinna! Hopefully someone will get me a new heavy bag. My old ones are shredded.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 20, 2010, 10:52:07 am
Some Wild Fruits

Wild Plum
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0646.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0678.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0674.jpg)

Wild Grape
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0680.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0675.jpg)

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on August 20, 2010, 10:54:41 am
Elderberry
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0682-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: djr_81 on August 20, 2010, 06:58:36 pm
I've been smelling the wild grapes in the woods now for the last week. They always smell so nice when ripe.
Definitely time to harvest here in the Northeast if anyone is so inclined. :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 07, 2010, 07:49:34 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8g3pbrQfz8
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: wodgina on September 07, 2010, 08:00:33 am
haha that was great. Your a cool guy.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 07, 2010, 08:25:30 am
haha thanks :),

you can even just use a fan if anyone wants to try it, since my dehydrator is only on 95 degrees Fahrenheit
that's all it is pretty much, a fan

gives some chew to some soft ground meat :D
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: raw on September 11, 2010, 02:06:22 pm
Some Wild Fruits

Wild Plum
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0646.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0678.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0674.jpg)

Wild Grape
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0680.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/100_0675.jpg)


other day, my little boy asks me "ma grapes! ma grapes" , i do not pay attention him and entire day long on and off he asks that. at last i've seen those very delicious wild grapes vines just right in my own home that my son is asking me. his eyes are everywhere in the jungle.

Sully, please, tell me how do i get that wild plum's tree? i want them in my country home to grow. all wild and exotic plants fascinate me.

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 04:45:44 am
I have difficulty seeing fruits like those in trees because of my partial color blindness. The other day my nephews pointed to some apples in a tree and I had trouble seeing them even when they pointed them out. So if I lived in the wild I likely wouldn't be eating much fruit. LOL
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 05:54:02 am
Haha yeah, but then wouldn't it be hard to see animals. They are even more camouflaged. But i guess animals move. :)

What are the details of your color blindness? What colors do you have trouble seeing etc?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 06:10:51 am
Haha yeah, but then wouldn't it be hard to see animals. They are even more camouflaged. But i guess animals move. :)
Correct, grassland animals move and their camouflaged colors tend to be dull camouflaged colors (http://www.marty-prokop.com/blogpics/free_deer_hunting_tips_big_buck.jpg) (I see yummy, yummy venison :D ), like you said, rather than brilliant fruity colors like shades of red. I can see dull browns and tans like in that image perfectly fine.

I've posted before (http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/carnivorous-zero-carb-approach/does-color-blindness-suggest-a-hunter-past/) about how scientists found that color blind people can actually seeing camouflaged animals better and spotting movement better (perhaps because we are less distracted by color?) and the scientists hypothesize that color blindness developed as an adaptation that aided in spotting game animals. There was only a need for one or two spotters in each group of hunters, so it didn't become a dominating mutation (besides, if all humans became color blind then the animals humans hunt most might develop hides with colorful shades of red and green, thus canceling the benefit of color blindness), but it was an important one. In hunter-gatherer days it was a help rather than a hindrance, whereas in today's agrarian and artificial society of things like traffic lights, it has become more of the latter and is even seen as a defect instead of a special capability.

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What are the details of your color blindness? What colors do you have trouble seeing etc?
Based on the color blindness tests, I have trouble seeing most of the colors other than shades of brown, yellow, blue and gray/black (if you can call that a color), especially red and green, which are the most common colorblindness colors (and make spotting motionless red apples amongst green leaves very difficult and claims that fruits are essential seem dubious).

I would be able to spot the more-yellow and black fruits you posted above. The pink and reddish ones would be tough for me. I wonder if that means that fruits with those colors might be more healthful, though that's just wild speculation and the hunting benefits of colorblindness would probably be a much larger factor behind it than any theoretical superiority of yellow and black fruits over red.

If the scientists are right about color blindness, then it is a refutation of the vegetarian/vegan nonsense about humans being natural vegetarians, not that we needed any more proof.

Here's a good quote from the earlier thread: "There are some studies which conclude that color blind individuals are better at penetrating certain color camouflages and it has been suggested that this may be the evolutionary explanation for the surprisingly high frequency of congenital red-green colour blindness."
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 06:32:39 am
Haha NOT FAIR! :) That's a close up pic man! I spot animals well too. Hawks, owls, foxes, deer, squirrels etc. Most people don't see em often, it's all about how much your outside.

You may be right though. Aren't wolves color blind? Maybe that helps them see prey. It prob helps them concentrate on whatever moves.

Humans would see animals that aren't moving better than wolves. They have a good sense a smell and great hearing to help hunt.

We are mostly by site, but smell can help, or tracking, and our minds.

Many animals stay still during certain times of day. Imagine that deer lying down and keeping still many yards away.

I walked through the woods during the winter, and this deer was very still. A color blind dog would have walked right past (unless it smelled it). But it stuck out for me because I could differentiate the colors.

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/a-camouflage-animal-hide-0.jpg) Imagine this a mile away. Very hard to see.

btw some wild grapes i got today
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5323.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5321.jpg)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 06:42:36 am
To think about it. Noise often alerts me of an animals location. Actually hearing something rustle alerted me of an animal postion most of the time. Then I locked on sight after hearing its location.

Color blindness, I think there are more cons than pros for humans at least. Are blood is red, to alert us.



 
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 06:45:58 am
Haha NOT FAIR! :) That's a close a pic man! I spot animals well too. Hawks, owls, foxes, deer, squirrels etc. Most people don't see em often, it's all about how much your outside.
Outdoor experience definitely helps, but the scientists claim that color blindness helps too.

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You may be right though. Aren't wolves color blind? Maybe that helps them see prey. It prob helps them concentrate on whatever moves.
Interesting--I checked and you're right. I did not know that. It makes sense.

"Although little research has been done into a Wolf's ability to see color, it is believed that they may be partially color blind. Wolves have only red and blue photo receptors in their eyes, unlike humans, who have red, green, and blue photo receptors." http://www.runningwiththewolves.org/Anatomy.htm

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Many animals stay still during certain times of day. Imagine that deer lying down and keeping still many yards away.
As I mentioned, color blindness provides an advantage in penetrating camouflage too, not just in seeing movement.

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I walked through the woods during the winter, and this deer was very still. A color blind dog would have walked right past (unless it smelled it). But it stuck out for me because I could differentiate the colors.
Check out that image of a deer that I posted. Where do you see brilliant reds or greens on that deer or even the cat (which I can see perfectly fine, BTW, not that cats are particularly favorite game for humans to hunt)? Again, color blindness helps to see dull camouflaged colors better, not worse.

Are you maybe confusing red-green colorblindness with total colorblindness? As I mentioned, I can see shades of brown, yellow and blue fine. It would be the pink and reddish fruits amidst very green leaves that I would have trouble seeing, not brown deer in tan, yellow or dull green grass. Plus, as I also mentioned, according to the theory, not all hunters needed to be color blind--it was just particularly useful in the spotters.

I have other features that are also associated with the hunting peoples of northern latitudes, such as red hair, some green eye color (which might be all green if my mother and I had consumed a hunter diet from the date of my conception onwards, as multiple people have reported that their eyes become greener when they eat more animal foods like krill oil, particularly raw animal foods, it seems), light skin, larger-than-avg canines (my sister's are even more pronounced), long nasal passages (which are common in carnivores and improve the sense of smell; I can often smell things that others can't) and heavily "Celtic" ancestry. I have posted about all of this stuff (except the long nasal passages, which just occurred to me) before in multiple threads.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 06:56:11 am
Did you read my second post?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 06:58:20 am
Was thinking of shades of gray vision for dogs.

But I know what you mean, lack of other colors to concentrate on animal camo like brown etc..


Wolves see red? I told you, good to see red for our blood, and blood of animals.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 07:02:12 am
Was thinking of shades of gray vision for dogs.

But I know what you mean, lack of other colors to concentrate on animal camo like brown etc..


Wolves see red? I told you, good to see red for our blood, are blood of animals.
You're just guessing and coming up with new guesses when I refute your old ones. I see you ignored the fact that wolves can't see green. I'm sorry, but I'm not at all convinced by your claim that red-green color blindness is a hindrance to hunting. Let me know if you come across evidence to support what you're saying.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 07:42:08 am
You're just guessing and coming up with new guesses when I refute your old ones. I see you ignored the fact that wolves can't see green. I'm sorry, but I'm not at all convinced by your claim that red-green color blindness is a hindrance to hunting. Let me know if you come across evidence to support what you're saying.

Is it a hindrance to hunt with green-red colorblindness? I don't know. I am not red/green color blind.

But, you can not hunt parrots, that's for sure. HA I AM OBVIOUSLY JOKING (I made parrots red, can you tell?)

Here I go clear on my thoughts, whether you disagree with me or not, that's fine by me...

-Humans can see *certain* things better than canines. Every animal/person is different, and for their own reasons.

-I like to see all the colors I can currently see. I can see wild plants and wild animals very well.

I DON"T KNOW IF ITS HARDER FOR HUMANS TO HUNT WITH RED-GREEN COLOR BLINDNESS.

You have problems with see red and green. That may or may not be an adaption for humans to survive better in certain places on the earth.


Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 07:49:06 am
Heh, heh, I can certainly agree with all of that, though I don't think of my color blindness as "problems," probably because I've always had it and it seems natural to me, and it was neat to find out that scientists think it was actually an advantage for hunters. I think it's also more positive for me to think of it as an advantage rather than a problem.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 07:58:55 am
Heh, heh, I can certainly agree with all of that, though I don't think of my color blindness as "problems," probably because I've always had it and it seems natural to me, and it was neat to find out that scientists think it was actually an advantage for hunters. I think it's also more positive for me to think of it as an advantage rather than a problem.
Heh yeah. Whether people say its good or bad, you grown to live with it. And feel it is normal. Its prob like saying is brown skin better than tan skin. Or curly hair better than straight. blue or brown eyes. They all have there advantages and disadvantages in certain geographical regions in the world.


I have a little bow in my legs, is it not best? I don't know, but I live with it. That's another interesting topic.
I put my ankles together and my knees are separated by about a half an inch. My niece has bad bow legs. I blame it on putting them in these things at an early age
http://secret-agent-josephine.com/blog/images/saucer-monster.gif

horrible, just like pacifiers

Although, nutrition affects the bow legs too I think.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 08:07:04 am
I have a little bow in my legs, is it not best? I don't not, but I live with it. That's another interesting topic.
I put my ankles together and my knees are separated by about a half an inch. My niece has bad bow legs. I blame it on putting them in these things at an early age
http://secret-agent-josephine.com/blog/images/saucer-monster.gif

horrible, just like pacifiers
My father has mildly bowed legs--though probably more bowed than yours based on your images--though those saucer things luckily hadn't been invented yet in his youth. Bowed legs have also been connected with deficiencies in one or more of zinc, vitamin D, and magnesium (www.ctds.info/magnesium.html, http://www.ctds.info/zinc1.html).
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 08:13:27 am
I also noticed that wild raspberries are smaller than domestic ones, and I found the wild ones to be less sweet and more tart than domestic ones, but that could be because of the soil. What about you?

Wild Maine blueberries are also less sweet than domestic ones, but I actually prefer the taste of the wild ones and they don't add a layer of scummy film to my teeth and white gunk along the gumline like domestic fruits do.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 09:10:21 am
I also noticed that wild raspberries are smaller than domestic ones, and I found the wild ones to be less sweet and more tart than domestic ones, but that could be because of the soil. What about you?

Wild Maine blueberries are also less sweet than domestic ones, but I actually prefer the taste of the wild ones and they don't add a layer of scummy film to my teeth and white gunk along the gumline like domestic fruits do.
Yeah, definitely here too. The average wild raspberry is not as sweet or large as domesticated ones no matter the soil here in wisconsin.

The variable is human involvement, which can include messing with the soil. A neighbor has domesticated red raspberries in her yard and a few feet away wild black raspberries grow. Its about genetics mostly.

Fruit has been modified genetically through selective breeding. And faster ways with modern technology of who knows what methods.

Wild grapes vs domesticated grapes are even a bigger difference than wild vs dom. raspberries. Really big difference when it comes to grapes.

People can now make their fruit bigger, sweeter, sourer, smaller, change seed size, change seed amount. Change color, make hybrids, etc. In a very short period of time.

Fruit changes naturally in nature of course, over much longer periods of time. Its crazy how much they changed things in the past 100 years or even 50 years. Even in the past decade.

This is not just with fruit, vegetables, and animals too.

Which is why I like to get less domesticated grass fed bison (still has genes from wild ancestors) over the much domesticated grass fed cow. Even if frozen I prefer bison over beef.

Can't argue with native wild raw foods :)

www.wildfoods.weebly.com my makeshift website, that is barely a website
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 09:12:57 am
Soil does definitely effects fruit though. But if dom. rasp. seeds are put in the same soil as wild rasp. seeds. The difference will still be there.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 12, 2010, 09:28:07 am
got this real quick, from my kitchen :)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5327.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/DSCN5328.jpg)

Don't be confused by champagne grapes in the store

http://images.quickblogcast.com/115838-108114/P1050280x.JPG

they are breed to be small, and are very sweet, and no where near the taste of wild grapes, and they have virtually no seeds too
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 12, 2010, 09:38:43 am
Yeah, I noticed that too. I tried champagne grapes and they were sickeningly sweet and even gave me some nausea, which surprised me. They affect me worse than regular grapes. I ended up throwing most of them out, which was a shame because they were expensive.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 20, 2010, 04:01:02 am
ohhhh plaeo spear!  8) simple yet effective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8pe9StIxcw

was in a chlorinated pool yesterday for a while, messed me up a bit
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 20, 2010, 04:05:08 am
now that's a paleo exercise, tool making
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 25, 2010, 01:58:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJrFxS1yaZ4&feature=player_embedded

new bow, traded pellet gun for

hopefully getting some deer meat!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Josh on September 25, 2010, 02:07:11 am
Hunting with a bow, brilliant. Wish there was something I could hunt with a bow.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 25, 2010, 02:08:41 am
you could do rabbits too

deer season is open for bow hunters now in Wisconsin


white tailed deer
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Josh on September 25, 2010, 03:27:50 am
Yeh maybe. I'm not sure if it's even legal to hunt rabbits here. Doesn't stop that guy eating squirrels in London though.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: raw on September 25, 2010, 03:41:48 am
"new bow, traded pellet gun for"
cool!! you can hunt all year round in my place. :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on September 25, 2010, 04:36:16 am
Josh, I though it was illegal to bow hunt any wild animal in the UK?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 25, 2010, 04:42:35 am
wisconsin is great for hunting


i mixed this music in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-dLPTGnLXc
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: djr_81 on September 25, 2010, 05:21:13 am
What's the draw weight Sully?
I picked up this (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=690052) recurve for my birthday last month but haven't had much chance to practice with it. Mine's a 50 pound draw weight. :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Josh on September 25, 2010, 05:47:10 am
I don't know the exact rules, but most huntings illegal unless it's controlling vermin, culling, or like pheasant shooting where they raise the birds.

There's one guy who's written a book who claims to have eaten squirrels and pigeons in London though.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 25, 2010, 09:18:02 am
What's the draw weight Sully?
I picked up this (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=690052) recurve for my birthday last month but haven't had much chance to practice with it. Mine's a 50 pound draw weight. :)
I have no idea what its set at. I just called my neighbor (teenage kid), he doesn't know. He said you can tighten and loosen it.
Beats me. I know nothing about bows.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 25, 2010, 09:22:26 am
Prob about 200lbs draw string is set at -\

I guess it just looks easy when I do it.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 25, 2010, 09:23:46 am
What's the draw weight Sully?
Is there a way I can find out? Besides taking it to a shop?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 25, 2010, 09:27:47 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRHWux6rxZI

i need to go somewhere to test it i guess
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: djr_81 on September 25, 2010, 07:44:07 pm
i need to go somewhere to test it i guess
Yeah, the video gives a good way to test it. Judging by the size I doubt it's much more than 65 pounds which is still plenty of force to take anything down you want.
FWIW my wife's uncle told me I should have gone with the 40 pound draw choice for my bow after I showed it to him. 40 pounds will drop a deer just fine. I bought the 50 because I figured it'll hold it's arrow elevation farther.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 26, 2010, 03:45:12 am
yeah, I imagine you don't need much force, because a arrow is so thin and arrow dynamic
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 27, 2010, 11:36:37 am
seems like i am for sure going hunting, hopefully i will be eating deer in the near future!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 23, 2010, 10:46:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jLVrYAqWAQ
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 25, 2010, 01:41:03 pm
this can go in any topic, exercsie, off topic, raw paleo (wild grapes), nature etc., so i will just put it here, i am havig too much fun with my new camera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-7m78x2P5Q
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Cinna on October 25, 2010, 04:47:30 pm
Hi, sweetheart! You are so special. :)  I love your latest vid. I love the editing, soundtrack, sound effects, cinematography - and bird in the water! Your videos also make me laugh - not that-is-hilarious or you-are-ridiculous laugh... more like, you and your videos are beautiful and heartwarming and inspiring, I have to laugh - it's joy and admiration. And appreciation. :)

I have a few questions, Sully. I'm sorry if you already mentioned it earlier in your journal... there is so much going on on the forum, I'll never catch up, etc. What kind of camera do you use? What editing program do you use? Did you study any particular tutorials (for editing) or did you just do it and teach yourself as you went along?

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: wodgina on October 25, 2010, 08:47:34 pm
I thought you were gonna stomp that bird! heh
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 26, 2010, 01:41:10 am
Hi, sweetheart! You are so special. :)  I love your latest vid. I love the editing, soundtrack, sound effects, cinematography - and bird in the water! Your videos also make me laugh - not that-is-hilarious or you-are-ridiculous laugh... more like, you and your videos are beautiful and heartwarming and inspiring, I have to laugh - it's joy and admiration. And appreciation. :)

I have a few questions, Sully. I'm sorry if you already mentioned it earlier in your journal... there is so much going on on the forum, I'll never catch up, etc. What kind of camera do you use? What editing program do you use? Did you study any particular tutorials (for editing) or did you just do it and teach yourself as you went along?


Thanks Cinna!
I just bought a JVC internal hardrive video camera recently. It was like $240. I had some left over money from grants for school. :) No I ddn't stuy any turorials. I just taught myself as I went along, I started off in Windows Movie Maker, I like to use Adobe Premier, but I don't have it on my computer. Maybe I can make a living off of this. I really enjoy making movies, if I have artistic freedom of course.


@wdogina Haha, I actually did go down by him. That bird was unusually fat. I was going to try to catch him. He took off. I though he was flightless because he sat there when he saw me, while the other birds took off right away.

 
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: raw on October 26, 2010, 02:00:54 pm
i agree with cinna. i think sully is just brilliant. he's beyond the school learning. but unfortunately, at this time, none of us can do anything easily without the paper from college.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 27, 2010, 10:10:34 am
Tried raw goose heart, umm another shiny organ and some goose meat. Delicious. Dark red frsh meat. Don't ask how I got it. You don't want to know.......................................

haha jk
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Louna on November 15, 2010, 12:06:14 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-7m78x2P5Q

Great video, bravo !

I don't think we need a diplom paper to do what we want, but for sure it will be a hard fight...
but if we love what we do, fight is not so troublesome.
If the school can helped to learn things, ok, but if I feel I go only for the diplom, I flees to learn by myself or in another school.
That's what I did for many years, following only my heart (I don't say to avoid difficulties or some contraints) and afterall I do just what I love, created my own work and it's great.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 15, 2010, 02:04:03 am
I hid my Vivo Barefoot shoes in the woods once so I could do some barefoot running, like Sully did, and some asshole found them and threw them in the nearby stream. It worked out for the best, though, because they weren't harmed and while cleaning them I discovered that they contain a removable insert, to make them even more barefoot-like.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on November 15, 2010, 04:39:19 am
I hid my Vivo Barefoot shoes in the woods once so I could do some barefoot running, like Sully did, and some asshole found them and threw them in the nearby stream.
LOL
Next time hide them very well!

Edit: Or in a tree is nice. Most people can't climb the tougher trees that I have to do a wall run to get too.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on November 15, 2010, 04:44:42 am
Thanks louna!

I will finish this first semester at UWM, but I might transfer to MATC a 2 year program.

I actually might volunteer on a farm with yon yonson in Jan.
That would be the best option.

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 15, 2010, 04:55:10 am
LOL
Next time hide them very well!

Edit: Or in a tree is nice. Most people can't climb the tougher trees that I have to do a wall run to get too.
Yes, since then I take what I had thought would be unnecessary measures to hide them. I underestimated the vandalistic nature of today's American male youth. The smashed beer bottles and graffiti that scar the USA should have been a tipoff.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on November 15, 2010, 04:57:12 am
Yes, since then I take what I had thought would be unnecessary measures to hide them. I underestimated the vandalistic nature of today's American male youth. The smashed beer bottles and graffiti that scar the USA should have been a tipoff.
Yeah, its risky. I my hide backpack sometimes too. No troubles yet, thankfully.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: achillezzz on November 19, 2010, 02:56:34 am
Just got one question the wild rabbit you caught in the forest did you eat it raw?
Does it means that any animal I catch in wild I can eat raw? organs fat muscles all?
do you suggest next time I go to forest I should catch wild rabbit and it him raw lol  :D ??
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on January 05, 2011, 09:23:06 am
Just got one question the wild rabbit you caught in the forest did you eat it raw?
Does it means that any animal I catch in wild I can eat raw? organs fat muscles all?
do you suggest next time I go to forest I should catch wild rabbit and it him raw lol  :D ??
Yeah I had some raw and cooked. I killed a few rabbits. Not in the forest, in my back yard. I made rabbit stew for my mom, she liked it.
Yep, all organs and such are edible raw. I like the eyes, heart, kidneys the most.

Yeah I def suggest hunting rabbits! Rabbits are masters at escaping. I used a pellet gun though. Goose are nice prey too, easy hunt even with bare hands.

I cut out where the bullet enters though.



Update: Headin to the store at midnight, going to get some lamb. Its worth fasting for. I will avoid the hummus ;) lol
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on January 05, 2011, 09:25:13 am
@achillezzzz
BTW Sorry for the late reply. I don't check my journal often, I will do so more often. Sorry again friend ;)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on January 08, 2011, 07:25:28 am
I had some grass fed beef, with some fatty lamb. The lamb is partially grass fed. but its my source of fat for now. I eat mainly the ground beef, its 90/10, I like more fat than that so I eat some lamb too.

My sister's dogs are on a raw meat diet. I have been dog sitting since the 29th of Dec. I give the dogs the bones from the lamb. They seem to need to chew on things like bones. or else tey will chew on wood or somthing. Their mouths are liek their our hands, they need to use them. imagine if you didn't use your hands all day.

Anyway, I have been eating some veggies and greens lately. I have a natural instinct to avoid dark greens with high calcium for some reason. I have collard greens, and I prefer cabbage. Cabbage is sweeter, but also lower in calcium by a significant amount. Also with brocoli, I don't like the dark green hairs (or lack of a better name) at the top. I just like the thick stem, the center is really tender and juicy.

Toodaloo O0
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Ioanna on January 08, 2011, 10:50:54 am
are your sister's dogs 100% carnivore then?  i agree about the bones. my dog gets bones from my farmer and the marrow bones from me to gnaw and she is in heaven!  i got my dad doing the same for his dog, except my dad doesn't eat marrow (he has no idea!) so the dog gets the whole thing!

are you a 1 x per day eater?  do you just separate your veg from meat by 20 min or so?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on January 14, 2011, 03:56:47 pm
Yeah, well, one of them is. At least when I took care of them. I give them some cabbage and they like to nibble on that sometiomes. Thye don't like kale. They nibble on pine needles too from the christmas tree.

Yeah, I usually eat 1 meal at night. Sometimes I seperate meat and veggies sometimes not.

btw Raw cacao beans taste like shit. I am in Oregon with yon yonson. Were going to be working on agrass fed farm. We here to change the world!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on January 14, 2011, 03:58:00 pm
Had dried white mulberries, TASTE LIKE CAPTAIN CRUNCH!!!!!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: djr_81 on January 14, 2011, 08:23:25 pm
I am in Oregon with yon yonson. Were going to be working on agrass fed farm. We here to change the world!
Awesome. Good luck to you guys. :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 05, 2011, 03:40:34 am
Redited my reply to durianriders. Explained my view and my diet a little more. I don't really like to take part in these paleo vs vegan things but I wanted to revamp my reply to be more clear and show some of the stuff I eat. I still have my old verion on youtube, it's been getting some heat lol

New Version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_V9Qe7kAY



Old Version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1FQJaZwwUk
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Amris on June 05, 2011, 05:42:19 am
Interesting video. You look very fit and trim!!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 05, 2011, 07:32:08 am
Interesting video. You look very fit and trim!!
Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 05, 2011, 08:54:28 am
Sully, I think you mean "re-edited," instead of "redited."
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Ioanna on June 05, 2011, 05:02:43 pm
great video, sully!!  :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Ioanna on June 06, 2011, 08:12:57 am
Sully, I think you mean "re-edited," instead of "redited."

also, on that same frame, it reads "aka durianriders", but i think you want 'durianrider'.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: zeno on June 06, 2011, 09:57:48 am
Hey Sully,

In regard to that goose you caught with your hands: were you concerned about the diet of the goose and the effect on the animal?

Here in Reno, Nevada there is a huge goose, duck, and loon population and I have been thinking about capturing one to eat. My only concern is the animal's diet; the geese and duck here are fed bread and scraps by humans and they could have been eating garbage for all I know. Should this be a concern? Should animals living in close contact with humans be avoided entirely?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 06, 2011, 11:01:19 am
also, on that same frame, it reads "aka durianriders", but i think you want 'durianrider'.
Harley had to use "durianriders" as his handle on Youtube because someone else was already using "durianrider."
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 06, 2011, 12:36:27 pm
Hey Sully,

In regard to that goose you caught with your hands: were you concerned about the diet of the goose and the effect on the animal?

Here in Reno, Nevada there is a huge goose, duck, and loon population and I have been thinking about capturing one to eat. My only concern is the animal's diet; the geese and duck here are fed bread and scraps by humans and they could have been eating garbage for all I know. Should this be a concern? Should animals living in close contact with humans be avoided entirely?
No I am not concerned. Unless bread was fed in excess. But in my case the geese were fed very little to none. I saw the geese grazing on grasses maybe eating bugs. The fat was a yellowish color. Even if fed a little bread they still get mainly wild food, unless people feed loads evryday. I would be more concerned with meats in the store.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 06, 2011, 12:37:01 pm
Sully, I think you mean "re-edited," instead of "redited."
Oh yeah, thanks for the correction, I was wondering how to spell taht out.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 06, 2011, 12:39:38 pm
Hey Sully,

In regard to that goose you caught with your hands: were you concerned about the diet of the goose and the effect on the animal?

Here in Reno, Nevada there is a huge goose, duck, and loon population and I have been thinking about capturing one to eat. My only concern is the animal's diet; the geese and duck here are fed bread and scraps by humans and they could have been eating garbage for all I know. Should this be a concern? Should animals living in close contact with humans be avoided entirely?
there is a concern though. Just way out the cincerns and see if it is wortyh it. In my case there was little concern. Not so in other cases with urban wild animals
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 06, 2011, 12:40:00 pm
great video, sully!!  :)
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: zeno on June 23, 2011, 03:14:02 am
So Sully, what you have you been up to since you have returned from the farm in Oregon? Are you planning to attend college in the fall?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 18, 2011, 10:52:24 am
So Sully, what you have you been up to since you have returned from the farm in Oregon? Are you planning to attend college in the fall?
Hey man! Sorry I haven't been able to reply soon as I can. First time I checked this in a while.

 Well just working part time and deciding what to do (looking for a higher paying job in the process, possibly security). Want to save money and eventually possibly have a farm of my own. Saveing money is pretty easy for me since I only buy food pretty much. Hanging out with family and friends. Living simple and good. Living with family splitting the rent so we are all pretty set paying cheap rent.

Went to the farmer's market today though. Nice old lady gave me some free apricot/peach cross bread. What a nice old lady. Bought some plums and apples from her. Check them out http://www.westonapples.com/

Also check out http://fer-ligrassfedbeef.com/.
I like Outpost ( a natural food store here), but Fer Li Grass fed beef is much better taste wise and is raised on a smaller scale than the grass fed beef supplied at Outpost and Health Hut (natural food stores here).

Have you or anyone else noticed the difference in local beef? I find the farm from the market here supply the best grass fed beef I had in Wisconsin. Best meat since I was in Oregon. The stuff in the health food store from a different company yet still in Wisconsin, definitely doesn't as good.

Here are a couple reasons why I think the stuff from the market taste better than the stuff form the store.

Store company
http://www.wisconsingrassfed.coop/grazing/

Market Company
http://fer-ligrassfedbeef.com/

-Market meat is frozen, all juices are held in while frozen preserving flavor. Store meat is fresh juices tend to leak out.

-Market meat is smaller scale, less or no shortcuts to raising their animals. Only sells at market. Other company sells at numerous health food stores and supplies a huge amounts to them. Larger scale, more shortcuts? Poorer quality?

-Feed, like I said, maybe shortcuts in raising their animals since they supply more meat. Better quality grasses or hey at Fer Li Farm might make the beef tastier.

-Different cow/beef breeds.

Note: Beef from the store stuff taste better when prepackaged by the company. Not ground or wrapped by the health food co-op.

I will do some more research possibly, but I am pretty sure it's one or more of the above.


Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 18, 2011, 10:57:47 am
Oh and the marrow is better at fer Li too haha. Soft just like butter. Dry like powder at the store hahaha
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: eveheart on September 18, 2011, 12:30:40 pm
Have you or anyone else noticed the difference in local beef?

I notice a difference in beef flavor from my favorite market to other markets. The good market gets its beef by the whole animal. If I get there at 7 a.m., when they open, I can see them break down the animals behind the counter. Other markets (including the local Whole Foods) gets beef in "market cuts" from a processing plant. This is just my opinion, and I can't give a logical reason for it, but I think this must have something to do with the superior flavor, since the ranches are in the same general area (so it can't be grass quality, can it?) I notice the same flavor difference in lamb, between markets that get the whole animal vs. markets that just get the market cuts.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Josh on September 18, 2011, 01:34:42 pm
Different breeds, different farm practises?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: eveheart on September 19, 2011, 03:08:14 am
I have not idea about breeds. Both are ranchers' cooperatives - many individual ranches selling through one organization. One sells through Whole Foods. Now, Whole Foods says that they inspect their ranches and maintain full control over several factors at each ranch, performing inspections to assure compliance. And, Whole Foods is the market that has the lesser-flavored beef. I grew up in the 1950s, and I remember the full taste of raw beef back then. That's my standard that I look for now.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 19, 2011, 05:10:53 pm
Hmm, well it's hard to compare Whole Food's beef to local small food cooperatives. Whole foods here I believe does not supply grass fed beef from Wisconsin. And their Lamb is from New Zealand.

The local coop here has local beef, just as the farmer's market. But they are from 2 different companies though. Same practices in raising the beef supposedly, but different flavor. The market beef is frozen, but has a better flavor than than the Local food coop.

Remember, both beef I am talking about are both grass fed and from Wisconsin, the better of the 2 is smaller scale and only sold at markets.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: KD on September 19, 2011, 08:49:12 pm
I think its been discussed on the forum here that the different kinds of marrow: buttery, liquidy, crumbly..are more to do with different parts of the bone. That my impression anyway. I know Slankers for instance has a wide variety of textures etc...

its also interesting that Slankers has a pretty visible profile of being all grass-fed but personally the meat (beef anyway) tastes way worse than most other grass-fed beef. Being frozen doesn't help but the local beef here which is required to be frozen always tastes way superior as does fresh WF beef. Their pork is pretty fantastic tho.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: miles on September 20, 2011, 12:18:12 am
Oh and the marrow is better at fer Li too haha. Soft just like butter. Dry like powder at the store hahaha

Yes... As KD said, the soft marrow is from the narrower bones and the powdery marrow is from the wider bones. If you go to 'the store' and get the narrow bones it will also be soft like butter, and if you get the wide bones from 'fer Li' it will be dry and powdery.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on September 20, 2011, 03:04:48 pm
Yeah guys marrow does depend. I had marrow from the farm I worked on in Oregon, some was dry, some was like butter.

But the marrow bones I got form Fer Li, were all big in size (some very big) and were soft like butter. And were pre frozen. All their meat is pre-frozen but delicious. Miles, even I was surprised!

All sizes and I tried lots of marrow from the grass fed people that sell at the health food store here. All sizes were pretty dry. None as soft and delicious as Fer Li. I had lots of marrow from www.wisconsingrassfed.coop/grazing/ They were my main supplier fro Grass fed beef these past years until Fer Li came along.

It definitely must be how they raise it when it comes down to that. Remember, Fer Li is much smaller. They only sell at markets. Their beef is definitely the best grass fed beef I have had in Wisconsin here.


Edit: It's either how they raise it or beef breed.

Anyone check them both out and experiment http://fer-ligrassfedbeef.com/ vs www.wisconsingrassfed.coop/grazing/
Both grass fed both in Wisconsin
Tell me what you think.

I will call both tomorrow and see what their breeds are.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: raw on September 21, 2011, 01:51:12 pm
I'd like to know that too Sully. I like small cows with horns on them. I see some cows in USA look mental patient, even they are raised on grass, 'cause the usually cut the horns and huge body mass. I don't like that type. I also wonder, if I can get a mommy cow with a little calf with it. So I can buy a cow family to raise for some milk.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 12, 2011, 03:03:58 pm
http://wildfoods.weebly.com/index.html (http://wildfoods.weebly.com/index.html)

Been editing my website. Please check it out and let me know if you have some ideas. Heading to sleep after a snack of raw liver haha
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Löwenherz on October 12, 2011, 06:01:21 pm
http://wildfoods.weebly.com/index.html (http://wildfoods.weebly.com/index.html)

Been editing my website. Please check it out and let me know if you have some ideas. Heading to sleep after a snack of raw liver haha

Nice website!

Sully, how many carbs do you eat nowadays? If I remember correctly you followed a zc diet in the past (?).

Löwenherz
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: RawZi on October 12, 2011, 11:49:20 pm
Been editing my website. Please check it out and let me know if you have some ideas.

    Liver is the best food before sleep, IME.

    I'll go to your site now. Thanks for updating here. I haven't been there in a long time. Looking forward to the new parts.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 13, 2011, 02:59:10 pm
Nice website!

Sully, how many carbs do you eat nowadays? If I remember correctly you followed a zc diet in the past (?).

Löwenherz
Hey there thanks! :) , yeah I tried it out a few times (not for too long though). I don't eat much carbs sometimes however. I kind of do only animal foods off and on lately. Today and yesterday I just ate meat/organs and fat, I was hungry today at work (no red meat with me, my staple food,) so I got some canned salmon ( had skin and bones, gave me a headache, dry, too much salt, over cooked too of course haah). I noticed sometimes chicken does that. Red meat is my go to food. Never eat white meat unless i have too.  just do so much better with red meat haha I noticed I do pretty well with sour apples, berries etc for fruit.  Came home and ate some beef though with some lime squirted on it, feel much better actually now after the beef an lime haha I noticed I crave sour sometimes, not sweet things. What's behind this  sour craving?


yeah rawzi, I have been trying to update it a bit. Let me know if you have any ideas. ;)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 13, 2011, 04:15:00 pm
Do some rotten meats have a sour flavor? I think I noticed this once. Maybe it has to do something with craving something sour like a lime? Man, that lime squirted on my sliced beef was delicious and healing. Does anyone else hate fish and chicken as of late? haha I just only want red meat. It's a huge huge craving for me. Red meat is my life lol It has been since I started this diet. Red meat has never failed me, fills me, good stop signal. Ahh RED MEAT!

I definitely notice that more sugar in my diet creates more oil in my skin (I have seen some oil fruititarians ahah). And sometimes pimples/blackheads. Eating lower sugar like this with an occasional sour treat, my pores aren't as oily at all.  How much sugar I eat affects my skin lot, i mean A LOT. I just can't eat too much of it. Whether it's from fruit, or white sugar. White sugar or refined sugar has a much more high affect on my skin though, get pimples/blackheads immediately if I eat stuff with it in it (for example, organic jelly with organic sugar added) messed my skin up day after. It's funny, some people look at me and probably think I never had a problem with acne. Genetics my ass. Got some wild grapes now, now those are a sour treat, I can;t eat much of them at all hahaha Wild fruit never fails, unless your allergic :D

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: RawZi on October 13, 2011, 04:20:31 pm
yeah rawzi, I have been trying to update it a bit. Let me know if you have any ideas. ;)

    It looks like it's coming along nicely, bravo!

    A small thing to maybe correct:
http://wildfoods.weebly.com/mammals.html (http://wildfoods.weebly.com/mammals.html)
Quote
Especially when is is 100% grass fed and grass finished.
spelling/typo
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: RawZi on October 13, 2011, 04:27:57 pm
Do some rotten meats have a sour flavor? I think I noticed this once. Maybe it has to do something with craving something sour like a lime? ...Does anyone else hate fish and chicken as of late? haha I just only want red meat....

I definitely notice that more sugar in my diet creates more oil in my skin (I have seen some oil fruititarians ahah). And sometimes pimples/blackheads. ... Genetics my ass. ...

    If meat sits in paper a full day in my fridge it gets sour smelling and tasting.  I haven't like fish for a while now.  I liked it and other white meats in the beginning better.  Now sometimes I prefer red. 

    Eating more carbs gives me annoying skin oil.  Little to no carbohydrates and my skin feels almost prepubescent.  My skin also, by eating raw fatty well combined animal foods, most of my scars went away and new people I meet can't imagine I had bad skin. My skin broke out young and it was deep and pretty much constant.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 13, 2011, 04:42:18 pm

    Eating more carbs gives me annoying skin oil.  Little to no carbohydrates and my skin feels almost prepubescent.  My skin also, by eating raw fatty well combined animal foods, most of my scars went away and new people I meet can't imagine I had bad skin. My skin broke out young and it was deep and pretty much constant.
Thanks I fixed it :)

Yes, me too, it's really horrible, my hair gets oily too if I eat too much carbs. And I swear I get stinkier hahaha Eating lower carb def heals me, and for you too I see. What we do without this knowledge? Just live and say we have horrible genetics, haha, we are fortunate to have found some truth to things in life :) Acne is genetic yes, but directly influenced by one's diet. Ahh the truth. Proactive and all these companies making money, it's a shame.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: RawZi on October 13, 2011, 04:51:32 pm
Thanks I fixed it :)
... Ahh the truth. Proactive and all these companies making money, it's a shame.

    You're welcome.

    I'd rather them make money with a little lotion on the skin than injecting heavy metals, light metals lol formaldehyde, antibiotics to preserve vaccine haha monkey brains, gopher guts, the kitchen sink, accidental contaminants etcetcetc I want to scream!  I would never waste my money on Proactive.  I did try some acne medicines, dermatologists etc as a kid.  Most of the stuff I was completely allergic to.  Still, I'm not too upset they sell it, if I had to pick my battle it would be not injecting abortion extract mumbo jumbo into people.  But yes, genetics don't have to hold anyone in sickness.  We just have different needs than SAD diet to help our skin get as it should be.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Inger on October 13, 2011, 04:58:44 pm
Sully,
this could be me! Totally!!! I have just the same experiences as you about food. I just got so happy reading this.
I love sour berries / wild fruit too! I crave them, NOT sweet fruit at all! And red, wild meat.. yummmm. :)
I never get tired of my elkmeat.
Wild fruit truly never fails. Wild herbs/greens neather.

Nice. :-*

Inger
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: miles on October 13, 2011, 06:41:05 pm
"Especially when is is 100% grass fed and grass finished."

spelling/typo

I don't see any spell/typo there..
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Inger on October 13, 2011, 06:58:43 pm
Miles,

...when is is 100% grass fed....

 ;)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: miles on October 13, 2011, 10:45:02 pm
WOW that's anazimg! Haha I did not see that at all, even thugoh I re-read like 10 times and even quoted it... As soon as you highlighted it I was like how the hell did I not see that!?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: eveheart on October 14, 2011, 01:08:42 am
WOW that's anazimg! Haha I did not see that at all, even thugoh I re-read like 10 times and even quoted it... As soon as you highlighted it I was like how the hell did I not see that!?

The brain has two different reading modes: proofreading mode and auto-correct mode. Auto-corekt N-ables u 2 rede ths.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 14, 2011, 03:38:21 am
@rawzi Yeah I used some acne stuff too once and it failed of course. You know, I would like to actually make  website about acne. Or on my wild foods website. List things that healed on me when I change my diet. Kind of like goodsmaritan/Edwin and how he cured eczema. http://www.curemanual.com/ (http://www.curemanual.com/)

@Inger It's nice you feel the same regarding food :) Elk? mmm. Elk is delicious! I had me some whitetail deer steak recently. My friend has some more free venison for me waiting in the freezer! :) Wild foods..... taste better in my honest opinion, and heal my body. BTW, Your looking amazing Inger! ;) You must be around my age ay? hahahah

@miles hahaha. Man we are 2 of the same hahhaha I thought you were joking when you said you didn't see a mistake. Can never tell with your sense of humor mayn!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 14, 2011, 04:07:44 am
@Inger I am actual part Norwegian my mom says. Norwegian, Scottish, and English. German too, and Welsh. Then my dad is Arabic, probably mixed with Jewish, Arab, Bedouin etc. That's a funky mix. Did anyone post a topic yet called? "What's your ancestry?"

I am am really interested in researching my bloodline.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: RawZi on October 15, 2011, 03:28:08 am
Yeah I used some acne stuff too once and it failed of course. You know, I would like to actually make  website about acne. Or on my wild foods website. List things that healed on me when I change my diet. Kind of like goodsmaritan/Edwin and how he cured eczema. http://www.curemanual.com/ (http://www.curemanual.com/)

    That's a great idea!

I am am really interested in researching my bloodline.

    Do genetic testing maybe? When people move around a lot, sometimes they may not know as well where their ancestors came from.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: papangue on October 15, 2011, 05:40:55 am
what is genetic testing?
I would love to know my blood line as well. I known for sure that I have French, Spanish ,Portuguese, Indian and African blood.  do you have any thought about interbreeding? is it a good or bad think?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 15, 2011, 06:16:16 am
what is genetic testing?
I would love to know my blood line as well. I known for sure that I have French, Spanish ,Portuguese, Indian and African blood.  do you have any thought about interbreeding? is it a good or bad think?
I think in short term it can be either good or bad depending on the situation. A pure African person mating with a pure European person can cause some troubles. Even with just different blood types. Happened with my nephew having a different blood type than my sister (his mom). Causes some troubles. He is older and healthy now. A mixed person back in paleo times might do ok in Africa and ok In Europe. But not do as well as a full breed person native to the region. African bushman are not the best suited for the arctic especially just using animal skins. Nor are Eskimos best suited on an African Savana/desert. Now a days we have modern houses and other things that climate doesn't matter as much.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: RawZi on October 15, 2011, 07:34:02 pm
what is genetic testing?

    http://www.ibdna.com/regions/UK/EN/?page=brazillianIdentity (http://www.ibdna.com/regions/UK/EN/?page=brazillianIdentity)

. Happened with my nephew having a different blood type than my sister (his mom). Causes some troubles. He is older and healthy now.

    I'm happy he is ok now.  Rh (blue) baby?  That would be super scary somewhere everyone always had the same rh type, and suddenly introducing someone to the area of the other type.  They might have no idea what's going on with the baby born blue or how to deal with it.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Inger on October 16, 2011, 03:32:08 am
Sully,
I am "almost" your age, yes. ;) At least I feel that way. :) (my age is under my avatar..eh)

I have Scottish blood too :).
Scottish, Norwegian, Swedish. That is all I know. I do think I am very well adapted to eat huge amouts of meat, as a feel great doing it!

Maybe interbreeding might be good? Might make people healthier? At least it is that way with dogs. They are healthier when mixed AFAIK. I do not know, really.

Inger

PS. You look great yourself!  :)

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: zeno on October 17, 2011, 04:54:47 am
Sully,

Could you share what you have been eating in the past week, or what you typically eat? Do you generally eat just a pound of lean meat without adding in cuts of suet?

I tend to begin my meal with raw fat and will eat a bunch (the most I ate was a pound in one sitting) before moving on to lean meat. For a short while I was craving fat, then lean meat (just the other day I ate 2 to 3 pounds of pre-frozen ground beef) and now for the past few days I haven't had any hunger for meat at all, just other foods like a little fruit (a pear or two) and water.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: jessica on October 18, 2011, 09:45:05 am
inger you are beautiful! i think choosing the mate that is most healthy and fit for creating a healthful natural life with one another no matter what creed is the best idea.
sully, so hey there on the topic of uhm...swapping genetics......hi
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 18, 2011, 10:31:04 am
@rawzi Yeah, I am not sure. He might have been one of those cases. I know there was some trouble, I think he was blood type B negative. While sister is blood type O positive. Something along the lines of that. I will ask my sister next time I talk with her. And yeah, I am really really really happy he made it. He is 5, turning six now. So the trouble was long ago. Him and I are very close, we always play together and I teach him martial arts. I have lots of mixed siblings too, two are half Mexican, two are half African, I am half Arabic. One is part Native American.

@Inger Yes, you look very young. And if you feel young too, you are doing the right thing ;) And thanks, I think I need to move to Finland now! haha

Ah nice, we may have some close bloodline then. On my moms side some have blue eyes and lighter hair. One of my uncles had light brown hair and blue eyes. Although, even on my dad's Arabian side, some have greenish eyes.
But me too, I feel better on a heavy meat diet.

Yeah I think that might be true to some extent. Most pure breed dogs have problems due to severe inbreeding. Like German Shepherds can have bad hips. And dalmatian's common blindness or deafness.

But it still can be better to stay somewhat close to genetics. For example; Wolves breed with Wolves who live and do well in the local area. Now If you take a wild dog from South America and put it in Yellow Stone National Park with a pack of wild wolves. It might not make it in natural circumstances, or even be accepted by the pack. But who knows, it may bring in useful adaptations to help the next generations. So it all depends.

@zeno Well today I had a few crab apples after training. Kind of bitter, but sweet. About the size of a large grape. I am not that fond of them. Then I had one lime before the meat I ate, cause the crab apples made me crave something sour haha.

But as far as meat, I eat fattier meat. I just go with what my body is hungry for fat. Which is usually 65% of my calories from fat. Which is 85/15 by weight. Depends on weather too, sometimes in cooler weather my fat intake goes up. But I am assuming 65%-70% from fat is my average.

Today I had a little more than 1lb of grass fed ground beef. I might meat more later. I hate that it has no chew. So I seared it on both sides giving some chew to it.  Raw in the center. I usually don't do this with whole meat because of course it has the chew to it.

When I eat whole lean meat, I prefer back fat over suet with it. I get backfat from the market, I just ran out. I take a big chunk of fat and cut pieces, and take some meat, then some fat, then some meat. I don't eat one before the other. I just mix is up naturally. And eat sometimes a chunk of fat with meat at the same time haha

So that's what I been eating, 1-2lbs of fatty meat a day. With some organs, or semi sweet fruit or veggies. I been going to the market for beef and food lately. If I have no time, i go to the health food store by my work for local grass fed beef. Which is what I ate today. Probably going to the market tomorrow.

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 18, 2011, 11:06:36 am
inger you are beautiful! i think choosing the mate that is most healthy and fit for creating a healthful natural life with one another no matter what creed is the best idea.
sully, so hey there on the topic of uhm...swapping genetics......hi
Hahaha. Hello there!  :D
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Inger on November 13, 2011, 05:14:39 am
I just have Biology in school (I go to high school for adults in Helsinki, almost finished :)).
My Teacher just told us, it is always better to mate someone that is genetically very different. Makes healthier babies. :)
We had about genetics etc. this week. Very intresting.
HA. Now I know.. the Vikings were very clever, travelling around and raping the beautiful women from different countries... ;)
Fresh blood. Healthy genes. >D

Inger
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: TylerDurden on November 13, 2011, 05:53:05 am
Inbreeding can be fine, but only as long as one never allows those manifesting defects to live and breed(something less and less likely to happen ever since the advent of fire, I think):-

"In small populations, as long as children born with inheritable birth defects die (or are killed) before they reproduce, the ultimate effect of inbreeding will be to decrease the frequency of defective genes in the population; over time the gene pool will be healthier. In larger populations, however, it is more likely that large numbers of carriers will survive and mate, leading to more constant rates of birth defects." taken from:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_taboo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_taboo)

In the case of dogs, humans bred them often for non-survival purposes, such as making many breeds' faces look more like human babies, thus hindering their breathing etc.It's been claimed by scientists that if all dogs were released into the wild, that, eventually over generations, they would all resemble wolves, as the deleterious "dog-genes" would all die out as they are not linked to survival.

While I am descended from peoples all over Europe(4 different types of Celt, Scandinavia, England, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Slovenia), I do sometimes wish I were the product of inbreeding(as long as I did not inherit any defective genes). Inbreeding seems the only way to guarantee certain cool mutations. For example, I have heard of a Spanish village which has a lot of people with 6 fingers on each hand.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 09, 2012, 02:21:30 pm
Made a blog about diet and experiments.

http://sullypaleo.blogspot.com/ (http://sullypaleo.blogspot.com/)

I wish there was an easier way to insert images on here.

Picked some local fruits already, took the pics with my phone. So not as good.

sour cherries
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0327.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0326.jpg)
sour clover
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0325.jpg)
raw jerky
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0357.jpg)
rainier or bing cherries (see some that look like rainer, and some that look like bing on the same tree)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0356.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0353.jpg)
the cooked bluegill I tried
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0352.jpg)
strawberry in my sister's garden
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0316.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0319.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0321.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0320.jpg)
local eggs
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0332.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0333.jpg)
grass fed beef, chuck
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0331.jpg)
raw meat salad
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0336.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0343.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0346.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0345.jpg)
used book i got from store,
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0312.jpg)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 09, 2012, 02:25:19 pm
live strong, healthy and happy folks! hehe
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0349.jpg)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 10, 2012, 06:38:43 am
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/Photo0357.jpg)
Neat coincidence--that's the same way I make my raw jerky. It even looks like the same dehydrator racks. I find that raw jerky tastes better than even low-heated jerky.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 10, 2012, 12:21:16 pm
Oh yeah, it's amazing. i dehydrate mine at about 104 degrees F, sometimes 95
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 10, 2012, 09:37:38 pm
Try it with no heat at all if you can--just turn the meat on the rack once the top side is dry and leave it as exposed to air as possible--preferably separating out the racks individually or at least not putting the top cover on. I find it tastes even better than jerky heated at 95 degrees and you save on electricity too.  :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Ioanna on June 11, 2012, 10:52:24 am
that's what i do with liver :D ... only my dehydrator goes as low as 85 degrees so i leave like that for a few hours and then cut into tiny pieces and sprinkle that on my meat for flavor. my body really loves liver, but my mind doesn't yet, so the dehydrator really works for me.

sully, that raw meat salad looks really good!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 11, 2012, 01:37:34 pm
@paleophil
So just using air? Like a fan? Or just exposed air? mine only goes as low as 95 degrees F.

@ioanna
Ahh nice, I actually like fresh liver more than dried. You should keep trying different livers. I get good grass fed liver form the farmers markets, from tehse guys
http://fer-ligrassfedbeef.com/ut (http://fer-ligrassfedbeef.com/ut)

I rarley get tasty liver in the stores from these guys.
http://www.wisconsingrassfed.coop/ (http://www.wisconsingrassfed.coop/)
Also try bison liver, etc. Some livers are more atsty than others. Like what I said above.

If its good dried, more power to you though! :)

Oh and thanks, the raw meat salad was delicious! :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 12, 2012, 05:31:20 am
@paleophil
So just using air? Like a fan? Or just exposed air?
The latter. Unless it's really hot and humid where I am, I just air it out in the kitchen (and if someone comes round I put the trays on top of each other to avoid freaking people out, but leave the top off to allow some air in). I try to slice it rather thin to assist with this, but most days even that hasn't been necessary except to shorten drying time. I was surprised at how easy it is. It demonstrated to me once again that the old adage often comes in handy: "question everything" (within reason and where there's a possible benefit to justify spending some thought on questioning something).

Bear in mind that you do have to physically turn the meat (unless you can hang it from something), even on the hole-filled racks, or else the bottom of the meat will probably get overly moist, likely not dry and quite possibly mold.

Quote
mine only goes as low as 95 degrees F.
Same here, I don't use the heat any more.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 12, 2012, 08:19:46 am
Ahh nice, some good ideas. I too have sliced thin to speed up times. Aged, or air dry does bring some flavor to the meat.

I know another cool way I learned from a guy on here a while back. If you don't have a dehydrator and want to make some jerky. You can use a ceiling fan, and hang the meat on a hanger or string right under it.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: jessica on June 12, 2012, 10:04:54 am
oo i spied some tart cherries today, not quite ripe yet though.  do you have mullberries where you live sully?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 13, 2012, 04:47:27 am
oo i spied some tart cherries today, not quite ripe yet though.  do you have mullberries where you live sully?
Yeah we do have mulberries here. They come right after cherries. Missouri gooseberries are soon too ripen also. Along with chokecherries. Then black raspberries come here... There's just too much to eat really! Each season a different fruit, and some fruits are ripe at the same time.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 13, 2012, 04:48:51 am
I also noticed on different sides of town, things ripen at different speeds. like things near the lake (Michigan), and things further inland.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Louna on July 11, 2012, 01:52:26 am
Hi Sully,

I read your interesting -but too short- blog with the nice photos of your salads while I was just eating mine with tasty cilantro, aspargus and raw shellfish, oysters and tuna :)

Did you already post somewhere about some detailed observations of the low carb experiences ?

Would like to know more about the correlation between the amount of carbs and your workouts and others aspects.
Also with how much percentage of carbs you feel the best approximately (training, skin, hair and co) if you can say.

Thank you !
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on July 11, 2012, 04:57:33 am
Hey Launa, I don't think I have posted that detailed things about my diet besides here and the blog.
For me, my workouts and overall health/skin etc. are best with a very simple and lower carb. I think everyone in different though.


The fruits I do the best with are the closest to wild. Wild berries I pick in season give me no problems at all. But even domesticated blueberries etc. Don't give me any problems too. As long as I get the smaller blueberries that taste kind of sour. Where as the bigger blueberries that taste very sugary just don't taste right. But things like domesticated mango, bananas, dates (and other high sugar fruits) I can only eat in small quantities and do well.

As far as meat and energy. Grass fed/wild red meats give me better training results than high quality chicken or fish.
Nuts I do ok with, but only in very small amounts. Fresh coconut and avocado I do pretty well with (even though avocado is not a nut).

Also, sequence eating definitely affects my energy too. Say if I have some salad and some steak. If I eat the salad first, the meat after. All is good, in my stools and digestion. But if I eat the salad right after the steak, I notice some problems in digestion. So eating in sequence definitely is important for my health as well.
Eating the quicker digesting foods first when eating vegetables/fruits and meats close together. (note: the raw meat salad is not something to do too often from my experience, but it is good for someone who is just starting to eat raw meat)

But as far as how much carbs. It all depends on where the carbs come from. If I eat wild raspberries, I have a strong stop signal. Not so much with bananas.
So I eat the more natural foods, whether its meat or carbs. Cause they have those stronger stop signals.

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Louna on September 17, 2012, 12:51:57 am
Some raw shellfish, wild fruits and nuts later...
Thank you Sully !

I have another question, how could you describe the difference in energy you have after fish, chicken and red meat ? (digestion, strenght...) ?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on May 21, 2013, 02:11:05 pm
I have another question, how could you describe the difference in energy you have after fish, chicken and red meat ? (digestion, strenght...) ?
Didn't notice you asked a question so long ago hah.

Well, it depends when you compare grass fed beef to wild game. Also if you compare Sardines to Salmon. I don't know exactly whats healthier. I can only assume based off experience, taste, etc. That wild game is most satisfying.

Raw fresh albacore tuna is my favorite raw fish. I dehydrated it, and oils came spewing out the flesh, more oils than salmon. That's prob why I like it, but it might coincide with health. But I do feel more satisfied and at ease with red meat, especially wild.Grass fed bison, venison. I like beef and lamb, its what i get mostly. But, wild deer and bison, is far better in flavor an probably health for me.

My meats of choice by instinct are, grass fed red meats, high quality, wild game preferably. Most likely beef. I get tired of pork and chicken very very quickly. Never get tired of red meat. This is the rawpaleo forum, but chicken and pork only taste good to me if its well done crispy haha. Which is why I choose beef, the most I will want to do is cook it rare. I don;t know if its mental about it feeling more safe. Or if its instinct. Or if because pork is so fatty and bland at times. That a good cooking is needed lol
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: LePatron7 on May 21, 2013, 07:24:51 pm
Raw fresh albacore tuna is my favorite raw fish.

I love albacore tuna raw. It's the fattiest of the fishes (more than even King Salmon). I wish I had a local source.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 26, 2013, 05:00:41 am
I love albacore tuna raw. It's the fattiest of the fishes (more than even King Salmon). I wish I had a local source.
Yes indeed, it oozes oil when i dehydrated it before. So flavorful when fresh and local.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 26, 2013, 06:14:21 am
The latter. Unless it's really hot and humid where I am, I just air it out in the kitchen (and if someone comes round I put the trays on top of each other to avoid freaking people out, but leave the top off to allow some air in). I try to slice it rather thin to assist with this, but most days even that hasn't been necessary except to shorten drying time. I was surprised at how easy it is. It demonstrated to me once again that the old adage often comes in handy: "question everything" (within reason and where there's a possible benefit to justify spending some thought on questioning something).

Bear in mind that you do have to physically turn the meat (unless you can hang it from something), even on the hole-filled racks, or else the bottom of the meat will probably get overly moist, likely not dry and quite possibly mold.
Same here, I don't use the heat any more.
I tried putting the drying racks in the fridge and air-drying it there during warm weather and it worked even better. Didn't have to turn the meat at all. I had been concerned that the fridge might be too moist, but it was the opposite--dryer and thus the meat dries more quickly and with no turning.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Louna on August 17, 2013, 10:48:04 pm
Hey. Thanks for your reply Sully, just saw it now ;)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 11, 2013, 02:51:24 am
Caught a Salmon with my bare hands. I tried getting one with nets and throwing stones. Then I gave up and just relaxed by the river one day with a friend. The Salmon swims right up on shore.... I hurry and snatch him! Then I just finished him off with a large stone, of course so he's not flapping everywhere.

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/1376906_10202088285197615_1451598150_n_zpsc123d37e.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Junts2005/media/1376906_10202088285197615_1451598150_n_zpsc123d37e.jpg.html)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/1372982_10202088282117538_1162386855_n_zpsa7385b91.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Junts2005/media/1372982_10202088282117538_1162386855_n_zpsa7385b91.jpg.html)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/1394956_10202088280757504_1914873995_n_zps38f2afa0.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Junts2005/media/1394956_10202088280757504_1914873995_n_zps38f2afa0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: TylerDurden on October 11, 2013, 02:58:49 am
Hmm, it is quite clear that there are a lot of people on here who are way more "rawpalaeo" than I could ever be.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 11, 2013, 03:01:12 am
Blood, sweat, tears....aaaaannnd salmon semen haha. Was squirting out everywhere, like how the females do with their eggs. Glad I was able to catch him, I did cook him though. With apple wood chips and charcoal on the grill.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 11, 2013, 03:08:03 am
Hmm, it is quite clear that there are a lot of people on here who are way more "rawpalaeo" than I could ever be.
I guess just "paleo". Cause I did smoke/grill him. I got him out of the Milwaukee River. A little different than the Alaskan Salmon. So tried him cooked first. I do believe he was chinook salmon.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Dr. D on October 11, 2013, 06:39:03 am
That's a great salmon! looks like 30+ pounds easily! Such a paleo catch... bare hands. Why did you cook it? Raw salmon is probably my favorite raw food.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 11, 2013, 11:13:38 am
You cooked the entire salmon?

Didn't you at least eat part of the salmon raw so you could relay to us how the wild salmon tasted?

I've always been wondering...
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Inger on October 11, 2013, 01:57:25 pm
Amazing...!!!! Beautiful pictures. <3

I bet it would have been tastier raw though... ;) Especially with some fresh lemon juice and sea salt...mmm.. Salmon is something I never cook, way more delicious uncooked. Wild salmon taste close to farmed, but better..lol A little less fatty for sure. I have had wild salmon fresh and raw many times. Yum!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: van on October 11, 2013, 09:41:23 pm
I think Sully may have concerned about all the polluted streams and rivers the fish had lived in before he caught it. 
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Haai on October 11, 2013, 10:07:24 pm
Salmon soon become extinct in polluted rivers. Also, why should cooking the animal eliminate concerns about the animal having been exposed to pollution?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: jessica on October 11, 2013, 11:05:57 pm
lol at the sperm!  I ran into some rednecks who had just pulled about 4 salmon that size or bigger out of the Rouge River.  I sat and talked with them while they cleaned the fish and they offered me the best tail portion!  They also played a joke on me and made me smell  the sperm sack, lolol!!!!!!!! We had many laughs that day.  The fresh meat was GREAT! but not salty Inger, I think they spawn in fresh water only.  Too bad you didn't get a female Sully! those rednecks had SO MUCH SALMON ROE, and they horded it for use as bait, what a shame!


heres a photo of the fish and the river it came out of, plastic bag provided by rednecks, not my own :D

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/9762_10201932151323190_1657607726_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: van on October 12, 2013, 02:29:27 am
Salmon soon become extinct in polluted rivers. Also, why should cooking the animal eliminate concerns about the animal having been exposed to pollution?

  They can become so sickly that parasites take over. 
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 12, 2013, 02:40:31 pm
That's a great salmon! looks like 30+ pounds easily! Such a paleo catch... bare hands. Why did you cook it? Raw salmon is probably my favorite raw food.
Yeah was a heavy one! I cooked it mainly just cause I never had fresh water river salmon, from what I think is a polluted river. I dont know if they are planted in lake Michigan by humans or natural. The meat was white when raw (very pale), not even pink or orange/red etc.
You cooked the entire salmon?

Didn't you at least eat part of the salmon raw so you could relay to us how the wild salmon tasted?

I've always been wondering...
No unfortunately I didn't try any raw. Just washed it and let it sit over night in the fridge. I imagine this fish is nothing compared to truly wild salmon swimming in from oceans.
lol at the sperm!  I ran into some rednecks who had just pulled about 4 salmon that size or bigger out of the Rouge River.  I sat and talked with them while they cleaned the fish and they offered me the best tail portion!  They also played a joke on me and made me smell  the sperm sack, lolol!!!!!!!! We had many laughs that day.  The fresh meat was GREAT! but not salty Inger, I think they spawn in fresh water only.  Too bad you didn't get a female Sully! those rednecks had SO MUCH SALMON ROE, and they horded it for use as bait, what a shame!


heres a photo of the fish and the river it came out of, plastic bag provided by rednecks, not my own :D

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/9762_10201932151323190_1657607726_n.jpg)
Ah nice! Yes I would Have preferred a female for sure! Its nice meeting new people and exploring wild foods. Sounds like you had a great time too! haha
  They can become so sickly that parasites take over. 
I think I agree with this. When I fileted the salmon and the meat was very pale. I just cooked it. Something from Alaska I would most definitely would have eaten it all raw. But if I was near those streams....I'd be armed with a  shot gun, no brown/grizzly bear is going to get me!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on October 12, 2013, 02:47:53 pm
Amazing...!!!! Beautiful pictures. <3

I bet it would have been tastier raw though... ;) Especially with some fresh lemon juice and sea salt...mmm.. Salmon is something I never cook, way more delicious uncooked. Wild salmon taste close to farmed, but better..lol A little less fatty for sure. I have had wild salmon fresh and raw many times. Yum!
I don't know, this is a different kind of salmon. I trust wild Alaskan salmon with a strong orange flesh raw, more than this one I caught. The flesh appeared to be way too pale. It was good, but I wonder about the flesh. Maybe it was the breed after looking at this article. http://chezalaska.com/blog/?p=371 (http://chezalaska.com/blog/?p=371) Let me know what you guys think, I will get more photos of the meat etc up soon!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: jessica on October 12, 2013, 10:54:06 pm
Some of the "lesser" kinds of salmon are more closely related to trout, in Colorado we have Kokanee salmon that are smaller, paler flesh and a bit more slimy and trouty, but still delicious.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 07, 2014, 02:11:16 am
Hello everyone I have an experiment to undergo. I am 174.5lbs this morning without any food. I have my last Amateur fight (ammy fights are ridiculous, no pads, same as pro besides no leg locks and no knees or elbows to the head, gloves are 6oz instead of 4oz they made me do 5 in order to go pro, even though I had ammy pancrase and kickboxing, state of Wisconsin is money hungry and makes people pay to fight for free!)  

MMA fight is on April 19th. But there is one problem, I am suppose to be 155lbs. I asked for a catch-weight, they are going to give me 160lbs. Still a big jump. The weigh in is on the April 18th.

What I have been eating? Mixture of cooked and raw paleo pretty much. Not very strict, some salts and sauces. Paleo pizzas etc. I hate labeling my diet, but hey, we need a name for what we do.

What will I eat to make weight?

1lb raw grass fed beef a day. 2 cups of fruit. 1/2 cup of nuts. All raw no salts (salt retains water) or seasonings. Hope this works.

Today is day one. 13 days including today. I will post a video and photos in the time to come. Probably after the fight. Or I will be too fat to fight. I will let you guys know haha.

My goal through MMA? To express that martial arts is a means to keep peace. Not senseless violence. And never celebrate after a win, always show respect.
Say positive everyone!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on April 07, 2014, 02:27:49 am
Good luck, Sully. What are you going to use as your intro tune?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 07, 2014, 02:57:32 am
Thanks Phil! Hmm, I have 2 options I really like
This one
http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/samurai-remix-masters-at-work/04-dub-spirit.mp3 (http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/samurai-remix-masters-at-work/04-dub-spirit.mp3)

or this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawQaMsfpgQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawQaMsfpgQ)


Oh btw everyone, the raw nuts really help me move my bowels. I like sequential eating. But I will eat the fruit after the meat. I like to do that, when I am really hungry I like the meat first cause its what I crave. As long as its not too much fruit.

So in this order, 1lb raw meat (maybe a little more early on, I won't restrict my raw grass fed meats early on). I'd say 1-2lbs, will go on hunger, then 2 cups fruit, 1/2 nuts. If weight is good the second weak. I wont bring the meat down to 1lb if I dont have too
Since I am not eating too many organs or brains cause of availability. the fruit will be my organs and the nuts will be my brains.

Lmk what you think of the songs Phil!
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 07, 2014, 03:02:35 am
Genki Sudo made the second song. He used to compete in mma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO8tMzHubgs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO8tMzHubgs)

Now he has a musical entertainment group called World Order
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on April 07, 2014, 03:40:36 am
The first song seems more in tune with aggressive American MMA style, FWIW.

I was kind of hoping that you'd use that Celto-Berber song I linked to, though it has a drawn out opening that would have to be edited somehow.

Mugar - Scottish Mezwed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A223ZzjFXBU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A223ZzjFXBU)

Genki Sudo's philosophy of "We are all one" is a common way to translate a Lakota greeting, mitakuye oyasin.

We Are All One - A Short Film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-EWIp1IPmM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-EWIp1IPmM)

Do you like the Yoshida Brothers' music?

Rising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_CzD0GBD-4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_CzD0GBD-4)

Kodo (Inside the Sun Remix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFjvzuPnmRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFjvzuPnmRU)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 07, 2014, 04:25:21 am
Oh nice, I like when it kicks in at the end. I would like to use that one for sure. Yeah the first one is a remix from a video game, I like the beginning. It gets me pumped, but can come off as cocky.

I really like that short film, very beautiful. So you heard of Genki Sudo? Yeah he said we are all one, even when competing. Cause without an opponent, what is there to express? You know. Were all connected.


Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: PaleoPhil on April 07, 2014, 04:26:33 am
Nah, hadn't heard of him, but that quote came up on the first Google search I did. His costumes and performances were pretty cool and outlandish. Do you know where he got the saying from?
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 07, 2014, 04:28:02 am
I think I heard the second song of the Yoshida brothers. Or at least the instrument is very similar. I do like the music a lot, its very unique. I like songs that have a genre of no genre haha. Ones hard to categorize.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 07, 2014, 04:31:17 am
I don't know where he got it from. But I think he had some influence from Native americans. Even some of his tattoos. He also studies Buddhism I believe.
He talks a little about his philosophy in this documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNqQTR_koCg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNqQTR_koCg)

Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 16, 2014, 07:39:16 am
Editing a website for a local grass fed beef farm here in Wisconsin. Check it out! Still some more touching up to do though. Best Grass fed beef I ever had in Wisconsin Hands down. http://ferligrassfedbeef.weebly.com/ (http://ferligrassfedbeef.weebly.com/)

Update on fight, doing a cooked and raw zero carb. Besides a little fresh salad or veggies. Carbs seem to retain water. Im 167lbs in the morning today. Will I make it to 160lbs by Friday night for the fight? I dont know haha. Have to move and family issues are making it hard to focus. But Im adapting like water baby! Stay positive everyone! ;-)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 26, 2014, 11:57:21 am
Fight was cancelled, long story. BUt good news, got the pro fight I wanted. Rules restricted a bit, but at least knees and elbows to the head. Watch the trailer ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23W8UyWzYzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23W8UyWzYzQ)

Fight is in August
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on May 23, 2014, 02:13:26 am
Everyone I am confused ot what I have posted and not posted haha. Been very busy. But I am going to make regular videos about the raw paleo diet. High quality video, and good editing. Make things presentable.

I want your guys opinion though. Should I continue to make raw paleo diet videos on my regular youtube account? (which just has martial arts and raw paleo diet videos etc). Or make a whole new channel, just for raw paleo videos. I also made a playlist on my regular account. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZxPRWsfjHy5rHdcZkoJ_xY_h1FB6mlWG (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZxPRWsfjHy5rHdcZkoJ_xY_h1FB6mlWG)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on May 23, 2014, 02:30:31 am
The other thing is, I don't want to label my diet as the raw paleo diet, you know? All the foods I am eating are on the paleo diet, both cooked and raw. But I just don't want to preach about something that may just only work for me. Or who knows, maybe it's not working for me. I don't know whats going on inside my body. I just basically have skin and energy levels as a gauge for how healthy I am eating. Which works very well. We all know how some of us preached about the vegan diet and here we are eating raw meat haha. Obviously there's a reason why we continue to eat paleo foods. So yes it is different....
I feel like I am rambling... haha But I am sure some of you have had similar thoughts. Like what Bruce Said, when there is a way, there lies your limitation. It's more about daily decrease than increase. Hacking away at unessential elements.

But anyway, Bruce Lee did develop Jeet Kune Do. Which is not a style, but a concept. Which is meant to evolve and change for the better. We all need to start somewhere when seeking help. Whether its martial arts or diet. That's how I like to look at Paleo or Raw Paleo though. Like a concept instead of a fad diet. Where one can adapt to they're own individual needs. Diet is simply what you eat, but we know how some people, even myself at times, speak of a diet like the gospel truth.

What do you guys feel about this? Should I post this in hot topics? AM I thinking too much? haha
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on May 23, 2014, 02:34:16 am
I obviously don't say all this when someone asks me what I eat. It's so easy to say the paleo diet or raw paleo diet hahahahaha :D

My exact words "I do something similar to the raw paleo diet"
I am starting to do that with martial arts, "I do something similar to Jeet Kune Do"
I mean how else do you explain to the average person in a brief conversation
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on May 23, 2014, 02:46:41 am
This is the description on my playlist for food/diet etc.

"Videos on my (Suleiman Abu Qdairi) diet. I tried vegan and raw vegan in the past. I now do something similar to the paleo and raw paleo diet. Never limit yourself, eat natural and keep growing and learning. I don't really want to label my diet, but I have to call it something to help show what I learn."

I just think it's wise for us to have this forum and website of course, but to also communicate, limitless growth. From seeing everyone's point of view, Lex Rooker, Tyler, some other zero carbers, Edwin, Instinctos like Iguana etc etc. It's really helped me take a little from everyone. And to grow even more.


Some will hold to tradition, while others will question. But truth to the saying, "if it's not broke, don't fix it"

OK everyone I better get back to training! So sidetracked haha life, earth and universe filled with knowledge. Maybe that's why we don't live forever, besides over population. There is just too much for our tiny brains to grasp.
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on May 26, 2014, 01:17:12 pm
Eating raw beef liver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4e5RzrdWxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4e5RzrdWxY)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: Inger on May 27, 2014, 08:09:37 pm
Great stuff Sully  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on June 28, 2014, 12:37:49 pm
Great stuff Sully  :)  :)  :)
Thanks Inger, I really like your videos too. :)
Title: Re: Sully's Journal
Post by: ezekiel on April 01, 2017, 12:48:32 pm
Every time I make a video related to the Raw Paleo Diet in some way, I will be sure to post it here! Hope everyone is well and happy! Peace be with you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDnEwH_YCQY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDnEwH_YCQY)