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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: October 11, 2016, 07:37:06 am »
Hi Lex,
I was wondering if the shift in your bone density occurred while you were using salt, or before, or if it really does not make a difference. Do you still test for bone density? If so, how?

Journals / Re: DaBoss88's healing schizophrenia journal
« on: September 30, 2016, 09:26:33 pm »
Thanks.  :)

Journals / Re: DaBoss88's healing schizophrenia journal
« on: September 29, 2016, 11:06:45 pm »
Hi Le Patron,
Glad to read your update and success! Was curious what you are using these days as a water formula. I tried the blue drops on their own before and got a stomach upset. I think this was complicated by drinking green juice before. I want to come back to it again, sans juice.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: September 26, 2016, 03:05:42 am »
Interesting reading my last post. That clicking in my jaw continued. I'm wondering if the problem with my jaw came from extreme carbohydrate sensitivity, or plant sensitivity. It began last year Spring. I was using cocnut cream, fermented veggies raw meat and grassfed cultured butter. I started to get bleeding in my gums. Later in the year, December?, I was drinking raw milk and eating raw meat and butter. Through until this year, where I was drinking green juices, alternated with raw meat and butter.

When I went away to vacation, camping with my husband and his family in Maine, I decided to not bring my juicer.  I decided to try being ZC for the trip, which consisted of amish beef, I had shipped to RI, plus the GF raw butter. I also decided to use puerh tea after meals with GF butter, and spring water between meals. When I came home I decided to switch from the raw butter to using GF tallow, to get off butter, which I think may cause inflammation in me.

Since then, I have been trying to do just meat and water. I've given up the tea, coffee which was just occassional BP coffee with butter. I tried GF organic beef from belcampo. Their's comes from the Shasta area. I could only afford the ground and marrow bones when they have them. I could not get enough fat in my diet by GF meat alone, without adding GF butter or tallow. So in the last two weeks I've been trying Costco ribeye raw mostly, with a little Celtic salt and water. Since going in this direction of being ZC, I have no pain in my jaw and it actually clicks a lot less. I've been learning a lot from and some of the facebook groups linked with the old ZC forum. But I do still prefer my meat raw so need the insight of you all here.

Oh, one thing I forgot. My jaw got its worst when I started to include unheated honey in my diet. This idea to try this, was a bit left over from when I did AV's diet. I thought prior I didn't do well on honey, but thought I'd give it a shot again. Afterall, bears eat honey in the wild right? At first I thought my body liked it, and people said I looked really good. But my dental problems started to intensify. Carbohydrates are the one thread I can identify, whether plant or animal, from when I started to have dental issues. Just trying ZC for now. Two things have influenced this decision. 1) years ago reading Lex's posts in the raw paleo forum of when he went to his dentist to find since being ZC raw his jaw bone was recalcifying, 2) reading the results of the Bellevue 1 year experiment with Steffanson. In the beginning he had gingivitis, at the end he no longer had signs of gingivitis.

Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: September 26, 2016, 02:24:08 am »
Lex, it is so good to see a post from you and hear what you are up to. :)  So you are pretty flexible, trying new things and changing resources. I myself had been getting meat and butter from a Pennsylvania Amish farmer for years, but that is expensive and have myself looked for more local and cheaper options. I'll have to check out Walmart. I've gotten off the grassfed butter for about a month, but find that it is so hard to get the fat levels needed from just grassfed meat. I tried using grassfed tallow too, that I would put into Puerh tea. I wanted to try just meat and water, so for the last two weeks have been using Costco ribeye. I know it is not grassfed. :-/  Does it really make a difference from what you've learned?

Sounds like you are really enjoying life. Your travels sound fun.

Journals / Re: Being Alive
« on: May 03, 2016, 11:17:41 am »
Sounds like your diet has changed a fair amount from when you began. I imagine you've learned quite a bit in experimenting. So what is in your green smoothie?

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: April 23, 2016, 09:29:59 am »
I had not been here in awhile. What I had posted above with the experimenting with the blue mineral drops, my conclusion is that it did not work well for me. I tried this three times with the same result. After awhile stomach pain almost like an ulcer. And then vomiting for awhile. It was weird. Like my body became overly alkalized. I could not drink green juices if doing the supplement. Both alkalizing. That was awhile ago now.

These days feeling a lot healthier than before. Still eating raw meat twice a day. I had gone back to eating AV primal for awhile. Thinking though that I might want to let go of the milk for awhile. I've had a clicking tightness in my right jaw for little awhile that I think might be linked to it. We'll see about the butter. 

I feed our dog the BARF diet by the vet Dr. Billinghurst. I pulverrize vegetable and a tiny amount of fruit to add to his raw ground in the evenings. I think it replicates the amount of vegetation that might be in the gut of an eaten animal. I tried this for myself a while ago and it did not digest well... maybe too much vegetable/fruit added.

I want to go 100% dairy free if I can, but not sure how to get the calories met. Maybe will try coconut oil, eat yolks. I am currently eating raw bison (including some heart, liver and kidney & marrow. I may try to vary the green juice I've been doing. I had been adding raw sour cream, today switched to raw eggs added. I drank it about 9:00 and it is now 6:23 and I'm finally getting hungry. Drinking juice alone, I think had too much free carb (plant sugar), but I think we need some green plant foods. I watch my dog and he eats grass here and there. Not much, but he does do this. Will checking what others are doing in their journals. Oh, also have given up using salt on a regular basis. Something about it was dampening to libido.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: September 16, 2015, 10:12:30 pm »
Did you find this?

i have used various minerals from Azomite (too much fluoride apparently)  to magnesium citrate powder, borax, Trace Minerals liquid formula.
would be interested in your recipe.
Found that someone  else posted it on a thread I started  on the question. He said a pinch of salt and 4 drops of blue ocean minerals and a drop of Lugols solution  per gallon of water.  I still need to buy the Lugols. The blue ocean drops are labeled as raw and glass bottled.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: September 16, 2015, 10:07:59 pm »
Congrats on getting married. Is this your first time?
Thanks. 2nd time. But we've been  together  12 plus years.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: September 14, 2015, 06:57:53 am »
Will try this for  now. Another thing I had been using was a pinch of terramin clay in my water. AV used to use this a lot and I also remember in Price's
 book the use of clay in water.

Also try to make a cooked bone broth, as well as a raw bone broth.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: September 14, 2015, 06:53:14 am »
Okay, found a recipe on a thread I had actually  asked the same question on before. LeBaron 7 posted it. I thought I remembered  Da boss writing  on it in his journal which looks like it was edited.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: September 14, 2015, 05:03:46 am »
Wow, it has been over a year since my last post. A lot has happened. I have also been spending some time on Jack Kruse's site to learn about the effects  of EMI on health.  However, have still been raw most of the time. Although,  it looks a little  different.  I'm  not  juicing these days. Using raw bison organs/meat and marrow with fermented  veggies for one meal and seafood  usually as a ceviche with cucumber, onion, avocado and a little ginger. I am using for fats coconut  oil, the marrow and meat fat, avocado and a little raw cultured butter, sometimes a little olive oil. I also use celtic salt now. Not just as experiment. I will eat a little cooked, maybe once a week with my husband.  That is one of the other new things... I got married in August to my bfriend of 12 years.

The other big thing that occurred is that I had the titanium plate taken out in July. I'm  so grateful  that the process went well. I had better mobility right after. I have had some interesting  detox since. I'm using chlorella to detox after the surgery.

I came back here to look up in one of the journals  the formula for adding minerals to water. Still trying get to get that right.

Wow, this is really good stuff Inger! I'm going to go through his site to learn as much as I can. Thanks for posting!

Journals / Re: Being Alive
« on: June 12, 2014, 01:29:43 pm »
I remember in my mid 30s I was eating cooked carbs and was getting terrible night sweats, hormones up and down and irregular cycles. When I started raw primal my cycle became like clockwork and no more night sweats. During the time my cycle was ending the only time I started to get hot flashes was when I was eating honey, more juices and less fat. When I changed things it went away the symptoms. Eventually my cycle just stopped with no symptoms.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: June 12, 2014, 01:02:53 pm »
Yes, that is true what you are saying Evehart, that it could have been so many other factors including old age. I just am concerned that if I wait too long the bone could grow around it making it very difficult to remove.

Also I just remember how much Aajonus stressed the presence of metals when doing an iridolgy reading. I am grateful to have had the use of the plate, but am just concerned about the long-term impact. While I don't care for having surgery and the drugs required to do that, that is an acute stressor and I believe my body can overcome that. But the plate is a chronic stressor of my internal environment.

I agree with what you say about exercise. We do a two hour hike every weekend and since coming back to it I've been using hiking poles to make it also an upper body exercise. I also have been doing some heavy duty gardening, weeding, digging, using a mattock (like a pick axe) also lifting stone pavers and setting them.
Thank you for your input.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: June 07, 2014, 11:24:22 am »
It's been awhile since I posted and I've changed a little the way I'm eating. I started to drink a puerh tea in the morning and fast on that until noon. From what I've read the tea is not heated in the processing, but had been composted, so is called "cooked". The fermenting diminishing the amount of caffeine. Also it is probiotic and is supposed to have a lot of nutrients. It was often used in Tibet and Mongolia where there were not many vegetables. So to that I add raw GF butter a couple of himalayan salt crystals and a small amount of concentrace mineral drop, as I used RO water.

For lunch I eat raw GF sirloin steak sliced with the fat, fermented vegetables, sometimes add an egg yolk, or bone marrow, heart, kidney. To this I add some himalayan salt, and butter and/or extra back fat. I have something similar for dinner; or a small amount of raw yogurt, handful of berries (although I am trying to move away from any dairy other than raw butter).

From drinking the tea I am noticing I feel smarter, more upbeat ... funny. I didn't want to do caffeine, but acutally with puerh I can still sleep at night and am not jittery, anxious. It is a very mellow tea, especially with the butter.

My wrist is pretty much healed, although there is still some stiffness that I attribute to the metal. I pretty much want to remove it. I did read that titanium as an orthopedic device can contribute to suppressing immune function and that it is normal for minute amounts to fragment off and circulate in the blood stream, and that this could be considered a carcinogen. I hope that the surgeon does not resist my efforts to remove it. He himself had a hip replacement, so he might not want to consider what I am saying.

In doing research about the effect of titanium in the body, I research Charleton Heston as I was aware he had had a hip replacement. I found that he had the replacement in 1998 and at some point after this developed prostate cancer and was treated for this. He then developed Alzheimers, and by 2008 he had passed. The article said after the hip replacement his health began to decline.

Another woman I know had a knee replacement in 2008, in 2012 she was diagnosed with an aggresive uterine cancer and had a hysterectomy, chemo and the next year something called Myasthenia Gravis and surgery for this. Granted I don't know how Heston ate, but wonder if the metal in both cases could have contributed to cancer.

Either way, I've also read that in the cases where people had their titanium plates removed in 75% of the cases their symptoms of stiffness, soreness and limited movement went away. I still want to wait a little while maybe September to make an appointment with the surgeon.

I'm feeling pretty good. I like what I'm currently eating. Good energy levels, clarity of thinking. Oh, and also my gums stopped bleeding. I'm thinking my mineral balances have to be pretty good. I have stopped drinking juices since starting the tea.

Off Topic / Re: Spaying/Neutering and Castration of Animals
« on: May 02, 2014, 12:47:04 pm »
Our male dog is not neutered and is generally very mellow. Except recently he started acting very odd - skittish when I would walk him at night. He would get spooked at noises and want to run home. And recently twice starting growling at other large male dogs. When we were hiking he lunged at a large German Shepard another large male aggressive dog. He also started to get diarrhea. Then it occurred to me that we had changed his diet. We were using a leaner raw chicken in the mornings. We more recently went back to a fattier chicken. Also has been off grassfed for awhile. But just with increasing his fat level he has settled down a lot. I remember when I was also experimenting years ago with cutting my fat intake and feeling so anxious. I recently told my boyfriend when our dog was going through this, "It's like he's going loco".

Back to the topic - My boyfriend does not want to neuter him. For me, I think I have not wanted to own a dog in the past as I didn't believe in it. And yes, I have been to India and they have started a neutering, giving health care and marking of all the stray/"independent" dogs. There is a great idea I thought. They are EVERYWHERE!

Hot Topics / Re: Ideal pot to use for making tea on the stove
« on: April 26, 2014, 02:48:13 am »
I was thinking of buying a teapot from this company

Mercola sells it on his site, but you can buy it directly from the company. If I get it, I'll post my opinion.

General Discussion / Re: Sources of Fat
« on: April 24, 2014, 12:59:27 pm »
I like bone marrow, backfat and raw butter. I tried tallow for awhile, but didn't like it. I'd rather stay raw.

How much fat are you eating? It doesn't sound like much. I remember reading that Stefanson and his men would get diarrhea if they ran low on fat. It cleared up again when they got a new supply. We also had switched to a leaner raw chicken for our dog and he got diarrhea.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: April 22, 2014, 02:11:04 pm »
Wow, it's been awhile since my last post. Since then I've been to London and back. My sister had a mastectomy and I went to be with her and her husband who has Parkinson's. She is amazingly strong. She was training for he London Marathon originally. While I would never make the same choices, it was important for me to support her decisions.

With my own health issues, it has been 3 months since my wrist break and almost 3 since my surgery. I had a friend do some myofascial release work on my wrist/hand/arm and for the first time felt positive, free, even lighthearted and hopeful. It is amazing how much alternative therapies are effective.

My diet at the moment is:
-green juices with butter/or heavy cream.
-bison/or beef with bone marrow, and heart/liver/kidney & raw butter - followed by a spoon of raw yogurt
-on occasion heavy cream or butter w/ berries
-glass of warm milk sometimes before bed.

Speaking of bed, it's time to go to sleep. Before I go I'm curious if others use caffeine. I'll check the threads in the forum tomorrow. I've been reading up on this bulletproof diet and their coffee. I don't think I want to give up raw, but it might be a good thing for others doing cooked paleo, like my boyfriend. I do like that they use so much fat, including raw butter. Awhile ago I was doing raw butter in puerh tea when I had gone back to cooked. I developed asthma and athlete's foot which I've never had prior. I checked AV's book and he said both were caused by cooked teas and coffee. I went back to raw including green juice and both conditions went away. I guess I'm thinking about caffeine as I get so sleepy at work. I think it is the milk/yoghurt. Okay going to bed.

Science / Re: Hair and eye Color changes from diet?
« on: March 26, 2014, 12:22:53 pm »
AV used to talk about eyes changing color. He showed me photographs of the progression of a person on the primal diet. He used to tell me that my brown eyes contained structures that indicated my eyes should have been either green or blue. I did have a friend ask me one time if I was wearing contacts. Lately I don't notice changes. Wish I could get digital copies of my iris pictures.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:58:29 pm »
What greens are in  your green juices Celeste?

Also where are you located in this world?  There are some amazing wild greens popping up this time of year in many places, you might like to add them to your juices, some of them are particularly good for lymphatic cleansing.  If you are interested lemme know and maybe I can help you with some identification and sourcing if you don't already know :)

Super cute puppy by the way!!!
Hi Jessica,
I live in Los Angeles. I currently use base of celery, parsley, cilantro, lemon with the peel, and sometimes a little tumeric lately to help my wrist heal. I am interested in knowing about the local greens. I love native plant gardening... although concerned about eating foods from polluted areas, which L.A. is.
He is such a sweet puppy. He currently eats raw paleo. I do watch him, and notice he will eat grass regularly.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: March 11, 2014, 12:52:23 pm »
You bring up a good topic that I have thought about for quite some time.

From my research and self experimentation on healthy eating I have come to find it is very important to keep an equal calcium to phosphorous ration.
Meat is high in phosphorus.
Milk just has an idea calcium ration and is easy to obtain.
PC, I remember reading in Page's writing the ratio of 10/4 I think it was in the blood work Ca/P.

Journals / Re: Celeste's journal
« on: March 11, 2014, 12:45:27 pm »
Well that was a short hiatus of being off dairy.  ;D Yesterday, I started to notice a soreness, and slight looseness of my teeth. I noticed this prior when eating only green juices steak and butter. I also had noticed while drinking milk I did not have this. Even though I had switched back to the bone meal capsules Ron Schmid sells they did not stave off this symptom. After two days about and consideration, I came back to milk for now. I don't know if I'm milk intolerant or not, but I can't afford to risk my wrist not healing. I felt bad as I had promised a friend the quart of raw yogurt and half gallon of raw milk I just received. I had to go back on that and instead split it with her. So much for theory, I need to be practical. Only one day after restarting milk the symptom has subsided.

I've also started use Real Salt and dulse flakes added to the fatty ground beef/egg yolk mix I've been eating. Sometimes I throw in a little chopped onion.

I'm staying on the capsules of bone meal and raw organ mix. I did though order from Northstar Bison for the week:
ground bison
marrow bones
sirloin tip roast

I'm curious about the ideal ratio of calcium to magnesium now. I wonder if drinking the green juice only before put the magnesium too high relative to calcium.
Thanks for the link PC.

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