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General Discussion / Re: Manuka Honey
« on: September 21, 2010, 03:33:26 am »
Thanks Alan.  I hadn't seen that thread.  I'll have a look through the list!

Hot Topics / Re: After sex?
« on: September 21, 2010, 03:27:11 am »
Try ejaculating 3-4 times in one sitting, and the exaustion will probably rear its head then. Im sometimes not too drained after one, depending on my arousal.

My experience is similar since eating RPD.  In fact, prior to my Taoist 'enlightenment', my previous girlfriend was somewhat sex-crazed and it was 2 years of constant sex.  There were many periods when I'd 'unlock the gate' as much as 8 times within a few hours! :)  I can tell you, those later climaxes were incredibly powerful.  But, despite the RPD, I did find the whole experience rather draining and I don't imagine it was very good for my health!  It's taoist practice all the way for me these days which, as others pointed out, is a big plus for the female involved!  :)


I haven't seen the video (where are these?!) but she could probably teach you a thing or two Sully!  :)

Hot Topics / Re: Merged DR discussions...
« on: September 21, 2010, 03:18:14 am »
LOL I have to admit cows scare me a bit too, they're huge when you get close!

They sure are!  The cows are bad enough but those bulls can be incredibly intimidating!  They're certainly not cute and cuddly like those mangoes! :)  There has actually been a number of incidents involving walkers being attacked by cows in the UK recently with at least 1 woman getting killed by an attacking herd!  I'm more than happy to let D.R be the one to go and pat those friendly cows!  :)

Good idea gs!  An insect eating thread would be brilliant.  You sound qualified for the job PaleoPhil?!  :)

Could you imagine yourself eating termites, crickets, etc? Yeah, no problem. Some other insects are supposed to taste rather good. For example, some insects reportedly taste of nuts, though it likely depends on what they eat. There's a guy at the Dirty Carnivore forum who has eaten some insects and found they tasted very good.

You're far more adventurous than I when it comes to eating then!  I'm intrigued at the thought of eating insects (and expect it would get me over my uncomfortableness with them) but am not sure I could bring myself to do it.  Perhaps thoroughly prepared, chopped up and cooked hidden in a curry sauce but on their own?!!  How does the D.C guy eat them?

You often give me the impression you've done your research on paleontology etc.  I don't know a great deal about this subject to be honest.  That's interesting that evidence suggests we're derived from a tree shrew and related to that wonderful creature - the tarsier!  They live entirely on insects, birds and small mammals don't they?

On the subject of vegans (and drifting off topic somewhat), I was reading an article on raising children on vegan diets in my partner's Green Parent magazine over my beef/butter lunch today! :)  I'm in no position to judge them as I, too, was in a similar place with my beliefs and outlook in the past but the manner in which they're feeding their children from birth and the level of false information they've 'educated' themselves with is scary!  The poor children look so unhealthy in the photos and yet the parents seem convinced they're physically and mentally advanced compared to their peers?!  I suppose if their peers are eating SAD then this is a possibility but it's a shocking state of affairs.

General Discussion / Re: Chelation therapy using DMSA / ALA
« on: September 20, 2010, 06:40:19 pm »
Thanks for your thoughts guys.

Kurite - Interesting to read of your water fasting experiences and glad that you've enjoyed such wonderful results.  Unfortunately, I don't think this holds the solution to the remaining issues I have.  But, I have had some wonderful experiences with fasting in general.  I've completed various long fasts including my longest water only fast of 13 days, and two scientific fasts lasting up to 56 days ( for more info).  My first serious long fast (56 days) was undertaken when I was about 26yrs old and was particularly incredible.  It left me feeling the best I'd ever felt in my life but, still on an imperfect diet at the time, the gains did slowly dissipated and the impact of such extreme measures were felt for a number of years.

Taste Sense -
Many thanks for sharing your experiences with chelation.  That's really useful information to me and wonderful to read!  I must admit that after such a long and committed chelation regime, I'm a little disappointed to learn that your gains have not been more extraordinary.  Have you noticed the subsidence of any other related symptoms besides the insomnia and depression? In addition to those I've already mentioned, brain fog/difficulty concentrating/memory issues are still a problem to me.  I've suffered lifelong insomnia and episodes of depression but I'm glad to tell you that, as has been your experience, these are no longer problems.  It's still incredible to me that I can fall asleep easily at night now and don't wake so frequently.

It's interesting that you suffer similar issues with stomach acid.  My digestion is something that has improved eating RPD but I still need to be careful what I eat.  I have certainly noticed that symptoms improve the more I move towards an exclusive meat/fat diet.  Fruit/Veg/carbs generally just cause problems.  I am still taking Solgar  Betaine Hydrochloride with meals - usually up to 10 tablets per meal.  I've never experienced burning with them so am not sure what my ceiling would be with taking them.  But, any more than 10 seems excessive and, not to mention, expensive!  The raw meats do seem to digest fine now but, I guess, this has been a gradual improvement over the years.

Yes, I'd read that DMSA also chelates lead.  In fact, I recall reading PubMed studies detailing that it was actually far more powerful for this purpose than it was mercury!  I understand that it's used in medical emergencies for such poisoning in children.  I've also read that it's used as a means of conducting medical kidney scans as it only adheres to healthy tissue so, coupled with it's (rather worrying!) radioactive attributes, it can be used to highlight areas of damaged kidney tissue.

I've read that, in addition to safety, it's also best to use DMSA/ALA together as ALA can breach the blood-brain barrier whereas DMSA cannot.  So, ALA is required to get heavy metals out of the brain.  It's useful to read of your experiences with dosages and timing schedules, thanks.  I didn't realise it was important to use the ALA every 3 hours.  As I understand it, ALA has a half-life of 2.5-3.5 hours which would explain the rationale for this advice.

Keep up the great work with your chelation!  I hope the improvements continue and that you're able to increase your raw meat intake as time goes on.  This would, I'm sure, greatly enhance any gains you make.  I'm looking forward to getting back in the game myself soon!

Hot Topics / Re: After sex?
« on: September 20, 2010, 06:11:05 pm »
I think "retaining" is for older men like in their 30s, 40s and above.

Yes, that's certainly true gs.  The older one gets the more important it becomes.  Although, as you suggest, our incredible diet can reduce these requirements significantly.  I've had similar experiences with oysters although raw meats are ordinarily more than sufficient.

2-3 minutes of labor?
Maybe you need more minutes of working time to expend your extra energy.

ha ha  :)  I'm sure (hope?!) DeadRamones was joking about that.

Hi Michael, the book IS based on traditional Toaist reflections, although im curious to know what literature/material you have on the subject?

Sorry n&w, I didn't mean to imply that your particular book wasn't.  It's been some time now since I read that material.  I'll try to dig out a few titles.

Hot Topics / Re: After sex?
« on: September 20, 2010, 08:05:23 am »
I didn't understand this at first either.

Thanks.  I'm glad it wasn't just me gs:)

Sully, go easy with unlocking the gate!  At your age and, obviously, with this wonderful diet you are capable of withstanding far more of it than most men but it's probably still important to retain such energies.  I'd recommend reading some of the taoist literature on such matters or even some of the westernised versions such as Daniel Reid's books.  Some of the same exercises used in building the 'stamina' required for controlling ejaculation should also help minimise or eradicate the wet dreams.

Still a good idea to 'get that woman and feed that need though'!  :)

I thought about home drying, but that would probably be too smelly indoors.

Yes, I'm assuming that you don't have room for a dehydrator in your - as previously described - small apartment either do you?  Perhaps a worthy investment when you move to a larger home.  I find my dehydrator invaluable!

Not good news, oh well. But didn't Lex's improvements come quicker than that?

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!  But, it's good to have realistic expectations even with something as wonderful as RPD.  Also, I was excessively damaged to begin with despite my age.  So, as I believe you often say, YMMV.  I do believe Lex's improvements were much quicker although I can't recall quite the number of years he's been eating this way.  I suspect, being of an older generation, he would have been blessed with a much stronger constitution than myself too.  I was the first generation of growing up on pure junk food and suffered it's early consequences.

Yes, I wish to try that some day. I'm not a fan of the taste and mouth feel of cold or room-temp butter, but I'd force it down as a medicinal.

That's interesting.  I used to hate butter growing up and couldn't have even a smidgeon of it anywhere near my food.  I'd never eaten it since until getting into AV's dietary ideas.  I adore raw, grass-fed butter and can eat it alone in substantial quantities without difficulty!

It's particularly frustrating when some people talk about how their muscles popped out with little effort within months, sometimes even with no significant exercise.

Sorry to frustrate you further!  :)  That has certainly been my experience.  I probably have as good or better physique than most exercise intensive men in their 20s entirely due to this diet despite little exercise other than walking, cycling and occasional tibetan yoga.  I think that when you resolve or overcome the root issues you seem to be suffering Phil then you, too, will experience these wonderful benefits.

Yes, you read my mind. ;) We seem to think much alike.

It does seem that we share many thoughts and experiences.  I've greatly enjoyed your addition to the forum over the last year Phil and, like most others I'm sure, put great value in your contributions.

I hope you're right and I always remain optimistic about such things, even when the physicians tell me that improvement is impossible.

Indeed, the physicians tell us much that has no foundation in the truth.  There may be a few small details that need ironing out for you but you are most certainly on the right path to achieving the level of health you desire and overcoming most, if not all, of any remaining issues you face.

Yes, it was disappointing to cut out another category of food, and I was loathe to do so (and thus put off trying it too long), but I find a more restricted diet is not as bad as I imagined it would be. I think that most of even the Paleo/Primal/LC experts underestimate the subtle damage that many plant foods can do when eaten year-round without offsetting the antinutrient buildup with clay or other detoxicants

I agree.  I believe this is certainly something that I've underestimated myself.  I've long been aware of the complications of nightshades, for instance, but only seriously began considering excluding them entirely following your recent comments.  I have also found it very easy to adapt to an increasingly restricted diet.  In fact, I have little desire for anything but meat and fat most of the time now!

I think that seasonal eating plus indigenous knowledge about the best detoxicants for various plants are two areas that modern diets tend to be weak in.

I believe you're right!  There is so much such wonderful knowledge that has been carelessly lost.  We're a part of a movement piecing together some of this knowledge and uncovering the truth.

I ate an ate that was climbing on a wood sorrel plant, and it tasted sweet like the wood sorrel. Not much of a meal, though. African termites would be more concentrated in number and fat-rich.

Really?!  Incredible!  I find it amazing what some of you guys on here can eat and it makes me feel quite inadequate.  Could you imagine yourself eating termites, crickets, etc?

Thanks for the input. Very valuable as usual.

Thanks to you too Phil.  I find our discussions of great value and, despite years of learning/experimenting about human health, I find that you often provide me with useful information I was unaware of or set my mind off to explore a matter previously unconsidered!  It's a great exchange!  :)

Hot Topics / Re: After sex?
« on: September 20, 2010, 07:17:06 am »
Precisely needs_and_wants!  Hence the Taoist practices I mentioned earlier. 

Personally, I limit myself to very few ejaculatory orgasms per year now.  There are a whole host of books on the subject but I prefer the more traditional taoist reflections and advice rather than some of the modern sensationalist, almost consumerist books on the subject.  Done correctly, chi can not only be preserved by certain practices but actually 'gained' during sex with the right partner from the females multiple orgasms!  :)

Hot Topics / Re: After sex?
« on: September 20, 2010, 07:05:28 am »
ha ha!!  Thanks for the explanation Sully.  You confirmed my suspicions of what you were inferring!  :)  I had not idea the internet was used for such purposes!  How naive do I feel?!   -[

Hilarious how it still instills those same 'distance from the girl' feelings!!

Hot Topics / Re: Merged DR discussions...
« on: September 20, 2010, 07:00:33 am »
Can I pet the mango instead? They're so cute and cuddly!  8)

ha ha  :)  Yes, who wants to pat a cow?!  I've never felt any particular emotions towards cattle until recently.  Whilst carrying my young son and walking through a field of cows and bulls they became particularly aggressive.  They can be fearsome creatures!!  Needless to say, we ended up running back in the opposite direction drained of any remaining guilt I may of felt eating them!  They wouldn't think twice about killing us!

Hot Topics / Re: After sex?
« on: September 20, 2010, 06:51:17 am »
I probably don't belong to the "most men" category.
I just feel the need to lie down and rest for some 5 minutes with my partner... at the same time fantasizing if a baby will be produced.  Happy time.

Whilst, perhaps, most of us WORRY about whether a baby will be produced?!  :)   (particularly with the obvious fertility this diet blesses us with!!)

Me too, I tend to shut down my computer afterwards.

Call me slow but you might have to explain that one to me guys?!  :)

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Raw Omni + Tooth Healing
« on: September 20, 2010, 06:47:15 am »
Eventually (my theory anyways) is that in the meantime the jaw basically rotted and so there was no underlying jawbone left subsequently that a (whatever you call the implanted teeth) screw and false tooth could be added.

Thanks for the (rather scary!) warning al.

Having now seen my dentist, I can update that he (thankfully) suggested monitoring the situation for now following the success of the antibiotics.  With luck, and with the great impact of either treatment in mind, I may be able to avoid either treatment.  I'm due to go back in 3 months time and will be taking every possible precaution in the meantime.

However, Michael has a bulk source, which I don't recall seeing before. Interesting. If I had that, I might see which herbs are the most palatable and add them to my salads. Are you going to eat any of them fresh Michael? Will 50 g of dried herbs be palatable? Will you crumble them into your meats or what?

My bulk source is, unfortunately, only for dried herbs.  Sorry for any confusion!  It would be my hope to eventually grow my own in bulk to dry them myself at low temperature.  So, yes, I will be using them dried for these purposes (I do eat fresh coriander/parsley too).  Recently, I've been eating one meal a day only consisting of thinly sliced meats dehydrated for an hour and served with a homemade sauce (raw butter and egg yolk).  I've started adding substantial quantities of dried herbs to this sauce over the last few days and, must say, it's absolutely delicious!!  :)  50g of dried herbs is, indeed, quite a large quantity in reality so I may have to consider splitting this over two meals to make such quantities palatable.

The downside of large intakes in an environment of poor absorption is there is the possibility of excess free serum calcium, which might increase risk of developing calcifications in various parts of the body. So the bioavailability of nutrient sources is important, as are other nutrients that work synergistically with calcium to improve its bioavailability.

Hmm, good points Phil.  Thanks for raising those.  It wasn't a thought I had considered.  I will certainly need to be monitoring the situation very closely I feel.

Are you aware that when teeth are extracted it tends to accelerate the bone loss of the jaw in that area? I think that's one reason why dentists go to lengths of fillings, root canals, and such to avoid having to pull teeth.

I wasn't actually aware of this so many thanks for the warning!  I was glad to learn this BEFORE my dentist appointment and, therefore, even more grateful that he suggested postponing any immediate treatment with a view to monitoring the effected area.

Hot Topics / Re: After sex?
« on: September 20, 2010, 06:24:28 am »
I'm the same.

Interesting.  In my pre-RAF life, I had always felt similar to DeadRamones and, having discussed it with male friends, found that they'd felt the same.  I've always found that the males wanted to 'escape' and the females wanted to cuddle or chat.  These days, I probably lean more towards the latter too although, to be honest, not totally exclusively.  I wonder if it is related to the loss of nutrients?  This may also be further validated, now I think of it, by the fact that I tend to follow Taoist practices now and rarely 'indulge' in 'unlocking the gate'!

Off Topic / Re: Raw Paleo Fashion :))
« on: September 20, 2010, 06:17:36 am »
I would like to see that...

maybe we can put you up to it by paypaling some cash towards at new farrier rasp :)

LOL!  Very good KD.  All contributions welcome.  i still haven't recovered from the expense of that rasp that's sitting in my freezer seeing little use!  :)  I'm not sure you'd really like to see me in the dress though!  :)

I'm working on a jerky codpiece

Fantastic!  I haven't been able to find a large enough joint of topside for this yet!  ;)  With the expertise you must've gained in the short shorts department you're definitely the man for the job!  ;)

Organ meats all contain calcium too, with tripe containing a significant amount, and marrow some unknown amount. There's also Dr. Ron's bone meal that is supposed to be high quality, but I have no way of testing it. My favorite source of calcium is dried salted mackerel from a local Asian food store.

Thanks for the suggestions.  Mackerel appears to be a reasonable source of Mg - 76mg per 100g fresh.  Dried, of course, would be significantly more!  I wonder if I should consider home-drying lots of mackerel fillets at low temperature as a regular Mg source?  Hmm, that's got me thinking.  Thanks.  I suppose the quantities of protein consumed may become an issue if eating large amounts of dried fish along with regular meat consumption.

I've read here and there that Stone Agers ate a lot of calcium, but rarely is it said what they ate to give them the calcium. Fiber and carbs can bind with calcium and block its absorption, so if you aren't eating a lot of fiber and carbs your calcium needs are probably much less than a SAD eater.

Yes, this is extremely annoying!  It's an issue that seems to get glossed over.  Certainly, the fact that I consume very little fiber, phytates etc does ensure that my requirement is greatly reduced.

I'm doing VLC and doing OK, though even the small amount of plant carbs (around 1-4% of calories) I'm eating does give me mild negative symptoms--much less severe than when I was eating plentiful carbs, of course...I still have constipation, some continued hairloss, underweight and undermuscled... I find when my plant carb intake gets above around 3-4% I start getting negative symptoms...Like Lex I don't think that he or I and some other people have any carb requirement. I'm basically experimenting because I haven't reached Lex's level of success yet and my constipation is not resolving as quickly as his did, IIRC...In these and other matters, my experience comes much closer to that of you, Lex, Dr. Harris, Michael Eades, Peter of Hyperlipid, Gary Taubes, and others. 

How long have you been eating RAF now Phil and how old are you? As far as I can recall you've only been on the forum for the last year or so and, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're in your forties aren't you?  I'm 38 and have been eating a RAF based diet for 10 years now.  I still have issues.  I've had to conclude that healing is a s-l-o-w process the speed of which is inversely proportional to the amount of damage inflicted in previous years.  Perhaps time and patience are your greatest resources now.  Your intolerance of carbs may be due to previous damage and may eventually resolve OR maybe any significant level of carbs in the human diet is simply not relevant and we're searching for something that never existed?

I am baffled by your constipation issues Phil, particularly, as this is not something I've ever experienced eating this way.  With luck, the coconut butter is going to help you with this.  Would you consider raw dairy butter as I've always understood this to be effective in this respect?  I do also find it strange that you remain underweight and undermuscled.  I certainly consider myself slim but not underweight.  Unless consuming vast quantities of raw dairy, I simply don't greatly fluctuate in body weight.  But, despite generally very low levels of exercise, I do find that the diet alone keeps me very well toned and muscled.  There must be some kind of absorption issues or existing intestinal injury going on for you which, in time, I'm sure will improve.  You are your own greatest researcher and I'm confident that you'll resolve any remaining issues eventually!

I didn't know that Harris had even wrote about starvation mode.

I recall him speaking of it as a commentator on someone else's blog (possibly Roddy's?).  I can't recall if he's specifically covered the issue on PaNu.  Unfortunately, I don't find I have enough time to follow any of the blogs as closely as I'd like.

Don't let the veg-heads and fruit fans fool you. ALL plants contain antinutrients, even fruits. If they didn't they wouldn't survive long in the wild. Those antinutrients are critical chemical defense mechanisms... Antinutrients are neither pure evil nor completely benign.

Yes, I've become increasingly aware of this only over the last couple of years of participating in this forum.  Interestingly, I have cut nightshades out of my diet too now.  Up until a few weeks ago I had usually been eating small quantities of peppers, tomatoes, cayenne etc with my meats (and even occasional potatoes if eating a cooked restaurant meal or Christmas dinner!).  Those high alkaloid levels seem to have substantial potential deleterious effects upon our health and, I must admit, I have been feeling better as a result.

However, insects and other microfauna remain in the human diet to this day and I do think that consumption of insects and other small animals is a crucial part of our ancestral and genetic heritage.

Yes, I agree.  I'm particularly squeamish when it comes to insects, unfortunately, so I doubt if it's something I'll ever experiment with!  :)

Primal Diet / Re: Raw Unheated British or Irish Honey?
« on: September 20, 2010, 05:16:48 am »
Hi Brady, 

That Sainsbury's honey sounds quite promising!  I'm amazed!  I'll be interested to hear your experiences with it - particularly the unheated patch they've promised you!?  I do think it's also worth checking as many health shops as you can for some honeycomb.  As I said, I've managed to find 2 or 3 different honeycombs in just my local health shops alone!  One of these is, however, from New Zealand which is probably good from the point of view of the quality but, of course, does run the potential of having been tampered with at some point.

We have the same problem here with the low honey production this year unfortunately.  A friend of mine on the North Norfolk coast has a business selling apitherapy products around the world and is my usual source of fresh, raw honey (only sold to friends/family!).  Sadly, even her supplies are virtually non-existent this year?!

General Discussion / Chelation therapy using DMSA / ALA
« on: September 20, 2010, 05:08:36 am »
I've been eating a RAF based diet now for 10 years and have seen hugely significant improvements in my health.  However, I'm still not in as good health as I would like and suspect that underlying problems such as low stomach acid, candida, possible absorption issues etc remain an issue due to previous heavy metal poisoning (primarily due to dental amalgam).

I first read the work of Andy Cutler PhD over 10 years ago following removal of all of my amalgam fillings in Germany (before it was recognised in the UK).  At the time, I spent a brief period 'playing' with chelation following his protocol with the use of DMSA and ALA.  But, suffering extreme health difficulties at the time and unable to afford the supplements due to my inability to work I didn't continue the program.

I think my signifiant health improvements following a RAF diet has been partly due to a natural chelation provided by the diet (muscle meats, liver and heart supply plentiful amounts of ALA as far as I'm aware).  As I'm now much stronger physically, I'm considering resuming a serious attempt at chelation therapy following Andy Cutler's protocol.

Does anyone here have much experience of this before or, even, since following a RAF diet?  I think my diet will cover most bases so am simply considering supplementing with a program of 100mg DMSA / 100mg ALA every 4 every hours  for 3 days of each week (4 days off).  This is to be continued for 12 - 36 months to ensure removal of all mercury and lead.

Any thoughts?

Primal Diet / Re: Raw Unheated British or Irish Honey?
« on: September 16, 2010, 04:46:47 am »
I was going to make a couple of suggestion, Brady, but now in the knowledge that you're in N.Ireland they no longer apply.

I can't imagine for a moment that the Tesco honey is anywhere near raw but if it's working for you - great.

Obviously your setups there may be totally different to those that we have but it's worth trying to find any small time local bee keepers in your area.  You may be surprised, as I was, that there are actually quite a few even if just hobbyists.  These can be found by keeping a watchful eye out for signs people put outside their houses, searching newspaper/shop classified ads etc.  I found the best source was to go to my local county beekeeper association.  They were able to supply me with a list of ALL the beekeepers in my area as it's a requirement to be registered I believe.  I was then able to contact them individually and narrow down the potential suppliers I'd consider (non sugar-syrup fed bees, organically raised, unheated etc).

Also, as Tyler has mentioned many times, if you can find a source of honeycomb the likelihood that it's genuinely unheated is far greater than jarred honey.  I live in a very rural region despite being in a small City and, personally, I'm fortunate to have found 3 different boxed honeycombs from local health food shops.  This is worth investigating also.

I hope that helps!

General Discussion / Re: Manuka Honey
« on: September 16, 2010, 04:23:42 am »
ha ha :)  yes, we do seem to have wandered off-topic somewhat!

Thanks for the book link raw-al.  Recommendations are always welcomed!  It's now in my amazon shopping basket.

They canceled my order without explanation--probably because there was no drop-down option to add S&H for foreign orders like their website claimed. I emailed twice asking for instructions on how to order from USA, but didn't receive a reply. They apparently don't want my business!

Really?!  That's incredible!  I realise that you may've decided against purchase now due to poor service but if you'd like me to get one for you and forward it on myself it's no problem - just let me know.

If you haven't already done so, check out Stephen Guyenet's dental advice (which focuses on getting plenty of fat soluble nutrients--especially A, D3 and K2--and minerals).

Thanks, yes I have read that.  As I've mentioned elsewhere, I think it's obtaining and assimilation of the minerals that's aggravating my problem due to limited foods sources and poor absorption due to previous health problems.  I've got A, D3, K1, MkIV K2 etc covered (assuming they're sufficiently assimilated!) but am still struggling for sufficient Ca/Mg sources - hence my other post about dried herbs.  Of course, I realise that dried herbs are probably non-paleo but my ability to obtain the required insects, bones and seafood is limited.

Pretty lousy. In all my experimentation the only carby food that I have fared decently on is wild Main blueberries (and I seem to do better if I eat a lot of animal fat with them, a la Yupik Eskimo Akutaq); and even with those I have to limit my intake somewhat to avoid BG spikes.

Remind me - are you doing ok in general on ZC/VLC?  Is the carb requirement, for you, purely due to the recent talk (Stone, Harris, Roddy et al) of eating the arbitrary 50g carbs to keep out of starvation mode?

So I thought about what raw foods could have provided starch before cooking....Can anyone add any starchy Paleo foods that are edible raw to this list?

Kyle and gs made useful suggestions I suspect.  gs, are those yacon similar to sweet potato?  Are you aware of any anti-nutrients they may contain?  Sweet potato can be eaten raw but with toxins such as trypsin inhibitor it's not necessarily a good idea long-term. 

Of course, there's still the potential for fresh blood that we discussed previously too.  It seems that insects are not signifiant with respect to carbs unless one considers eating 500g - 1kg of them per day.  I see them as having provided more as a source of protein and minerals.

I'm still not convinced the assumptions are correct.

Glad to hear that you're continuing to make good progress dan!

I had no intention of absolutely denouncing the eating of pre-ground or frozen meat so I hope I did not give this impression.  I just wanted to point out the important points worthy of consideration to raw-al and anybody else that reads it.  Of course, we all make our own choices based on our own perception of the evidence and our own circumstances.  I can also clearly see the attraction of pre-ground frozen meats from a convenience and financial perspective and, if my circumstances were different, would not entirely rule out eating such foods myself.

I'd be interested in any links to studies or information which has informed your doubts regarding the extent of protein denaturation resulting from freezing.

Hope you're laying off those berries?!!   ;)

Hot Topics / Re: durianrider on youtube has holes in his food theory....
« on: September 16, 2010, 03:40:23 am »
The types of videos I will make will be very simple, for example preparation and recipe videos, various yummi meat sauces,... I'd show how to prepare many great salads and sides to eat with meat or to eat when you're not eating meat. Also how to prepare great deserts for those that can handle a little honey and/or nuts in their diet, and encourage people people grow their own fruit, veggies and herbs in their yard and show them how easy it is...Also to discuss things like where one can buy raw-worthy meat in my area, and for example, what to order at a restaurant, reviews of sashimi places. etc etc.

This is sounds fantastic yuli!  I can't wait to watch your videos myself now!  :)

Yeah there are books and articles on this stuff...but people these days don't want to read, they want to go on youtube and search for a healthy diet

I get the impression you have the potential to act as a wonderful representative of the diet to the youth of today.  At 38 and after 10 years of eating this way, I'm obviously over the hill as I still prefer to read!  :)  But, you're probably right that the majority of younger adults and youths do refer to the internet for their information (for better or worse?!).  In this respect, it's important that the diet is represented in a medium to which they can relate and are exposed.  I do think it's important that you're 'time served' with this WOE before going ahead with such projects, however.  I think this would not only enhance your knowledge, deep understanding and ability to teach but would also improve your own credentials.  Perhaps it could even be a project you collaborate on with others from the forum?

Do any other long-term RPDers have any thoughts on the matter?

Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Meat? Environmentally friendly?
« on: September 16, 2010, 03:21:38 am »
Quite right kurite!  That's the essence of what's important in this work and, although it's something we all know very well, it's not something that most people are aware of.  With any luck, it will provide the information to the masses of how and why the eco vegan argument is factually incorrect and leave it dead in the water.

Of course, the guy is incorrect about feeding rendered feed to pigs and, I'm sure, about alot of other stuff too.  I'm not quite sure this qualifies him as a fool though TD.  We all have a history of making statements based on our existing knowledge as, indeed, Monbiot did with his original stance on this same subject.  I'm sure you and I have done so in the past and probably do so now too.  Are we all fools or are we all equally prone to making incorrect judgements based on invalid information?

Shards of metal in the brain RawZi?!  My goodness!  I hope you wisely chose not to eat it.

General Discussion / Re: Coconut oil
« on: September 16, 2010, 02:38:52 am »
Yes, you could be on to something in that respect PaleoPhil.  If it helps with your constipation issues then it may provide a temporary role whilst your body continues to adjust to this WOE.

Thanks for the reminder RawZi!  I'd forgotten about the delicious coconut cream I used to make when I first got into AV's Primal Diet.  Have you tried this PP?  Could well be worth a try.  I've never tried fermenting the resultant cream from juicing.  Do you then actually dispose of the separated oil RawZi or consume both end products?

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