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Off Topic / Re: Question for maths geniuses
« on: October 14, 2010, 08:25:00 pm »
If it's just about spotting a pattern, I suppose it could be 33.  This would reveal a pattern whereby the final number of each row is the sum of the first two numbers of each row minus 1 eg  11+19=30..30-1=29, 6+11=17..17-1=16, 17+17=34..34-1=33.

Just a quick observation.

No! GCB (Guy-Claude Burger) has eaten RAF since 1965 or 1966! Oh, you did it for quite a lot of years too!

I didn't realise GCB was a member of the forum?! Is this a new development or have I just missed his posts? I'll have to search the archives as I'd be quite interested in his comments.
Yes, I've been at it longer than, perhaps, most members here but your 'length of service' puts you in a whole new league! :)

I must check which old pics I have and take the time to write a bit about my journey to comment them...

That would be wonderful Francois!  I look forward to that if you manage to find the time.

After eating oysters you definitely crave to do that. ;)

ha ha :)  Yes, watch out ladies!  Looking real caveman style there Sully.  Nice!

General Discussion / Re: meat storage ideas?
« on: October 14, 2010, 07:49:00 pm »
Thanks for your thoughts guys.

Yes, this is a fuzzy mold too Ioanna.  I did eat some last night and haven't observed any ill effects so it's probably ok (even though I wiped it off as best I could as it's not particularly appetising!).  All of the meats are completely uncovered in my new meat fridge as they're hanging on stainless steel meat hooks.  It's basically an electronically controlled wine fridge which I've converted out for this new purpose.  It's ventilated with a fan and provides a digitally controlled temperature which I'm keeping set at 5 deg C.  I'll try to take a photo of it to post.  It's interesting that you've had no molds over a month aging period even in your traditional fridge.  It does make me wonder if my new storage facility is as ideal as I was hoping.

Donrad and raw-al, I have a large selection of those vacuum containers too.  I bought them new which cost an absolute fortune along with the electric pump which attaches to the containers and removes the air.  I used to think they were wonderful but, over time, they have pretty much ALL exploded!!  I discovered this was probably due to various chemicals and gases released by particular foods during storage.  I use them now as very expensive paint containers!!  :)

50 degrees is optimal for tenderizing, 40 for long storage. You will be amazed at the tenderness, texture, and flavor of good dry aged meat. Experiment and enjoy.......Before refrigeration meat was smoked and salted to make it last a long time. Drying works great also. See my post on pemican. In cold climates you can hang it outside to freeze in a barn or shed.

I've been storing it at the minimal setting on my wine fridge which is 5 deg C (41 deg F).  Would you recommend experimenting with 10 deg C for tenderising?

I've experimented alot with drying meats in my dehydrator but am interested in more traditional methods.  I've seen photos of inuit and scandinavian fish drying racks exposed to the elements which are incredible.  I can't remember the name of it now but it seems that it's still possible to commercially purchase such dried fish.  It's something I was previously looking into as a source of Ca! :)

General Discussion / Re: One meal a day
« on: October 14, 2010, 07:26:26 pm »
...When you spend time trying to figure out what you feel like eating it is a sure sign that you aren't really hungry and probably shouldn't be eating at all.

That's actually a very good point that I hadn't considered before.

I concur with Lex entirely.  I would've previously considered the idea of eating the same thing every day, often at the same time just once per day, to be incredibly boring!  But, the reality is that it just isn't like that at all.  Like Lex, I look forward with relish to my next meal and don't think about food during the fasting period.

The other point to consider, of course, is that the incredible health and stable energy which is often the consequence of such an eating plan liberates us from the chains of food obsession (always thinking about, planning, preparing and eating food) in a way which creates much greater opportunity for real excitement in our lives!  Personally, I'd love to be able to exist in the style of Hira Ratan Manek on solar energy, air and water alone.  But, we don't get enough sun here in the UK to even realistically attempt serious sungazing so a 1 meal per day LC/VLC raw paleo regime is, in my opinion, the next best thing!   :)

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: UK - Raw Nuts
« on: October 14, 2010, 07:14:52 pm »
Why do you need to soak and dehydrate them?

I'm surprised that you're not aware of this miles.  As raw said, it prepares them for germination into sprouts.  More importantly this removes the enzyme inhibitors (which are present in all nuts and seeds) which cause great stress on the digestive system as well as reducing other anti-nutrients.  The enzyme inhibitors are nature's way of retaining the powerhouse of nutrition until the environment is right for germination (dark, moist etc).  Squirrels bury their nuts for this reason.  The one's they forget to dig up germinate into new trees and nature's wonderful circle of life continues.

Once soaked and the inhibitors removed, they can then be dehydrated for 8-12 hours at low temperature to enable - once again - long term dry storage.  If left wet after soaking they quickly become moldy.  These are all techniques greatly practiced by the raw vegan community and there's much information on the net should you wish to research it further.

By the way Tyler I was reading some site and it said that even the shell-on nuts are heated, but I didn't look in much detail and I'm off to sleep now. G'night.

Yes, this is probably true and, as Tyler said, is certainly more likely in the US.  It's my understanding now that all nuts in the US are irradiated too so one wouldn't want to touch them with a barge pole!!  We're a little more fortunate here and in the rest of Europe from this perspective (for now at least!).  Heat is applied to crack open the shells for shelling.  I see little advantage to the producers in heating them for storage as unshelled nuts as nature has prepared them satisfactorily for long term storage already.

Of course, raw is again correct in stating that the ideal situation is to have your own nut tree (or at least access to a wild tree!).  I've located a couple of local English walnut trees myself which supplied sufficient quantities last season.

General Discussion / Re: Raw Bone Meal
« on: October 14, 2010, 05:33:32 am »
Thanks for sharing MrBBQ.  Your experiences with bone broth and raw bone meal are valuable.  Funny, I tried eating raw chicken cartilage in the past for the same reason.  It supposedly contains the same chemicals as botox shots which some pay many ┬úthousands for!  :)

Good to see you back here if, albeit, briefly.  I hope you manage to get things together again soon.  I'm sure the choppy sea you're currently experiencing on your 'personal healing' journey will soon recede to calm once again.  Through the diffused noise and dissidence, trust your own inner voice.

General Discussion / Re: meat storage ideas?
« on: October 14, 2010, 05:03:11 am »
By "ventilated fridge", I mean with a fan inside. The one you gave the link for should be alright, though I have no experience with that kind of fridges. 5┬░ C is ok, even that the ideal advised temperature for meat storage is between 0 and 2┬░ C. But so low, there's a risk that it starts freezing, so I prefer a little more. The meat matures faster if the temperature is higher, but it's normally not a problem except that the fat becomes rancid earlier.

I can finally update that I have now had my meat aging fridge (as described previously) up and running for the last 2 weeks.  It seems to be working extremely well.  I've eaten a little of the fatty lamb breast which had been aging for 2 weeks as well as a venison steak which had been aged just a few days.  The venison was, quite simply, the tastiest meat I've eaten in all my 10 years of eating RAF!  It required no addition (other than a little freshly ground black pepper) which is very unusual for me.  The lamb breast has been good too but nothing in comparison to the venison.

Even after this comparatively short aging period in my meat fridge at 5 deg C, my meats are turning a beautiful dark colour and are becoming incredibly dry and hard, or to put it in a rather more appetising way, crispy.  My only concern is that I have now noticed a green, furry mold appearing on the lamb breasts after 2 weeks.

Is this mold safe to consume?  As they're fully exposed to air, I'm assuming it's ok and similar to molds experienced in aged cheese.  But, I am concerned about consuming molds of any sort due to the links to cancer and other major health problems. Any thoughts?

General Discussion / Re: One meal a day
« on: October 14, 2010, 04:53:14 am »
I would be especially interested to hear from anyone who has used this approach with adrenal fatigue?

I've suffered with adrenal problems for many years Phil.  There was even a point when I was prescribed hydrocortisone in addition to Thyroid hormones!!  (I took myself off of those quickly and many years ago).  It was this diet that healed me and allowed me to have a normal life back.

Over the last year or so, I've experimented with eating a single meal per day and have found it to be very beneficial.  This has also been VLC/LC, mainly consisting of meat and fat.  Generally, I've found that my energy levels have improved and are very stable.  Like Lex, unless engaging in particularly physical exercise I do not find I experience hunger or the need to eat further.

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: UK - Raw Nuts
« on: October 14, 2010, 03:59:08 am »
Tyler's correct miles.  Buying unshelled nuts is the only guarantee.

I will kindly supply you with my own 'secret' local supplier who I used to buy from regularly (I don't personally eat nuts anymore).  I believe it's now possible to shop via their website.  The most exciting thing is - their nuts are affordable and they have huge supplies!  They're a parrot specialist in Norfolk but, after lengthy discussions with the owner, I discovered that the nuts sold as 'parrot food' are, in fact, graded fit for human consumption.  Owners spend thousands on their exotic parrots and only want the best food for them.  The nuts, actually, are no different to the tiny bags one pays a small fortune for in the health shops!!  In fact, they're better because they're unshelled and not rancid like most you'd buy in the stores.  Shhhh, don't tell anyone!!  ;)  They're not organic but, to be honest, I don't think this is an issue with unshelled nuts.  They sell in bags as large as 25kg if I recall correctly and do some wonderful unusual and difficult to obtain nuts as well as the usual offerings.

You can find their website here:

I hope that's helpful!  :)

The only pain is, of course, one has to shell them all!  It makes sense to buy a decent nutcracker for the job.  I imported one called 'The Rocket' from the US which did a fine job and which I'd recommend.  I used to shell, soak and dehydrate in bulk which makes much more sense if one is consuming any reasonable quantity.

Incredible Francois!  Does that make you the longest RAF eating member on the forum do you think?  You've been eating this way almost twice as long as I have!

It's wonderful, particularly for others newer to this WOE, to see the resulting health that lay in store (although you hadn't been eating this way for too long in the early pics and were already looking good!).  It would be very interesting to see further pictures of the 'young-er' Francois BEFORE his raw instincto days to complete the pictorial 'journey to health' (not sure where you'd post them?!).

General Discussion / Re: Raw Bone Meal
« on: October 07, 2010, 04:34:46 am »
We've always had very different nutritional leanings.  Whether I eat this way or that way, he's more of a rebel than me, incredibly so.  Yeah, I know your wife wasn't even eating paleo before, let alone raw.  Very hard when you want to eat at home together as a family and teach children what you know to be healthy.

It's good that, despite your very different nutritional leanings, you somehow manage to get along with it all just fine.  You're spot on that it's very hard trying to raise a young family in such a situation.  So hard, in fact, that I would strongly urge any committed RPD eater to think very carefully before committing to a new relationship which may lead to a similar situation arising!  It would be RPD partners only for me now without hesitation!

He's way older than yours.  He has severe health problems.  He was (pure) vegan, he has been pure fruitarian, he's been a living fooder, he's been a junk food organic non fat vegan, for the past year and a half he was a high fat raw lacto-mella-fruitarian, last week he finally ate (raw fish) meat, then a piece of cooked yucca, now he's a raw salad cooked main-dish vegan, but considering trying (raw) eggs (will be first time).

Oh my, that's some journey!!  I hope it culminates in being a complete journey back to health!  I'll have a read of the thread you linked to when I have more time, thanks.

 I'm hoping bone meal will be good for his teeth, and that he will try it.  Anyone familiar with tooth blotting?

I feel extremely confident that, particulary based on his unsuitable dietary history, he will gain from it significantly!  I've never heard of tooth blotting I'm afraid.

General Discussion / Re: Raw Bone Meal
« on: October 07, 2010, 04:25:33 am »
That's true.
But when I eat even only a little of cooked food I fall out of my rhytm.

I think it also depends on the individual, I don't think I'll ever go back to a nasty cooked diet......minimal (and I am talking really MINIMAL) amounts do NOT cause me to slip back to a cooked food diet at all whatsoever. I am not afraid that I will slip back...but I wonder if with time I will not tolerate things at all as I become more detoxified....

Clearly, Yuli's right and it's an individual thing.  But, I can relate to what you say Hannibal.  I don't think it's ever knocked me out of my rhythm even in the early days.  I've always known since I starting eating RAF that this is the only way I want to eat.  Any diversion from it is temporary (usually due to social commitments) and normally leaves me feeling desperate to 'get back' to my diet!

Yuli, your suppositions are correct as ever.  It's certainly been my experience that even the slightest diversions are met with an increasing lack of tolerance as time goes on.  I do not experience such acute reactions as your vomiting but more a general feeling of worsened capability in all areas - digestion, energy, sleep, mood etc.  It would be nice to think that a body improving in health and vitality would be more capable of withstanding occasional stressors and I do believe this is the case.  But the practical reality, for me at least, has been that it rejects them with a heightened awareness of their unsuitability.

Also when I do get taken to a restaurant, I have a extra-rare steak (as rare as they agree to make it for me  :P ), and that eaten alone or with a good beer does not cause any significant problems. When I go to a restaurant I want to eat there dammit!

I do the same.  Whenever I eat out I try to arrange it so that it's somewhere I can eat bleu steak which I accompany with steamed greens or salad.

...its amazing to look at a chocolate cake and not have the slightest inclination to taste any whatsoever, or to see my dad frying perogies and feel "ugh you're gonna put those inside yourself?".... thats how effective the RAF WOE is!

That's been my experience also which, again, only increases as time goes on.

I actually feel worse re pollution effects if I ever eat cooked foods - somehow the combination doesn`t work. Plus, every so often, I get the opportunity to visit unpolluted countryside, whereas if I was eating a little cooked food all the time, I would feel permanently weakened.

Aha, that's a very interesting point Tyler.  I was vegetarian when I lived in London!  I wonder how different my experience would've been had I been eating RPD?  Significantly better I'm sure.  So, the conclusion is, perhaps, that - yes - pollution and such represent a significant danger to our health but, like many things, we're better able to tolerate it when eating our natural paleo diet.

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: 'girly' Meat & Liver 'salad'
« on: October 07, 2010, 03:49:19 am »
No, I've never been to Canada. But I've seen some movies, pics.
I hope that in the future I'll visit not only Canada, but also Alaska and some other interesting places. :)

I hope, too, that you manage to make it!  I haven't managed to return for 15 years but it's long overdue.  I'm sure you'd absolutely love the country and the people.  There sure are some interesting places in Northern Canada and Alaska.  We just need Yuli to invite us all over for a raw paleo get together?!  ;)

Awesome thread GS, great video and great posts so far!

Francois, is that avatar pic taken 20 years after the others?!  I didn't realise you'd been eating this way for so long.  Impressive!  You're looking good in them all.  The beard and physique are impressive in the older pics and, despite the greyness and other signs of aging, you're still looking incredibly strong and full of vitality in the avatar pics.

Yon, nice looking marrow! :) I wish the bones I rarely manage to source was so full of fresh marrow!

Yuli, without intending to flatter I have to agree with Francois (Iguana) and the others.  You radiate beauty as your posts radiate positive energy and enthusiasm.  If those sensuous pics don't sell the idea to newbies I don't know what will!!  ;)

I look forward to seeing more posts here and will endeavour to get around to taking some photos myself.  Good suggestion for a sticky Sully.  I second that proposal!

General Discussion / Re: Raw Bone Meal
« on: October 06, 2010, 07:31:59 pm »
As for pollution, I will grant that a few areas are really bad re pollution(Mexico City, for example), but, here in London, a capital city in a Western industrialised nation, pollution really isn't a serious issue for me.

Are you sure about that Tyler?!!  You're in North London aren't you?  My experiences of living in London for a number of years are quite different.  I lived in Greenwich (considered by many as a 'green' part of London) and used to spend a significant amount of time in Central London.  I used to find the pollution a BIG problem!  I couldn't even walk from my house into Greenwich village without needing to wash the black soot from my face upon my return.  I would spend seemingly my entire time blowing thick black soot out of my nose and coughing it up.  My breathing and exercise potential was always significantly improved when staying away for periods in the countryside (which isn't great either with the serious pesticide issues!).  In my experience, London is colloquially known as the 'Big Smoke' with very good reason!  It may pale into insignificance when compared to Mexico City, LA etc but I certainly wouldn't say it's not a serious issue.  Other factors aside, the observational evidence is clear to see with the dominant grey pallor of most Londoners compared to the fresh, rosy-cheeked health seen in many countryside inhabitants.

Interesting discussion re: cooked food toxins etc.  Yuli, you bring a fresh perspective to the forum which is greatly appreciated.  Of course, I fully recognise and appreciate the dangers of heat-created toxins and their mid to long-term consequences to our health but I also tend to side with your argument.  Pollution in the air, water and food IS a major problem that we can do little more than intelligently minimise.  Of course, there are also a whole host of other environmental stresses (EMF and microwave radiation etc) which all impact on our body's ability to maintain homeostasis.  Our bodies are capable of cleansing and healing themselves when given the opportunity through intermittent fasting, regular fasting, predominately RPD diet etc.  I don't think a minimal amount of 'healthy' cooked food when considered in the context of an otherwise cleansing, health-building diet/lifestyle is going to cause significant harm.  In fact, I am open to the possibility that it may even - in some circumstances - offer some help despite the drawbacks eg bone broth offering minerals that a certain individual would potentially be otherwise lacking for whatever reason.

As important as it is to recognise, understand and appropriate for the dangers that now surround us in our complex modern world, it's also important not to lose sight of the big picture.

General Discussion / Re: Raw Bone Meal
« on: October 06, 2010, 07:06:04 pm »
It is a good idea to break them, and never use them for grain....I may try to use those grain mills on bones in the meantime till another is made, as my cat should probably have the bone meal NOW and not wait a couple weeks, so old and skinny, thin bones etc.

Yes, dig them out from the attic and give it a try RawZi.  I'm sure there are plenty of us here that would be interested in the results?!  If it works, then your cat will be very happy and your problem will be solved.  If it breaks, less temptation of grains for your husband (if you ever manage to move away from any stores!) :)  I realise from my own experiences how difficult it can be when our partners and family don't eat this way too.
How old is your son RawZi?  Does he suffer any specific health complications?  What kind of diet is he on now?

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: 'girly' Meat & Liver 'salad'
« on: October 06, 2010, 06:39:12 pm »
Yes, definitely. The northern Canada is so marvelous and breathtaking...

Sadly, I didn't make it into the Northern territories during my visit but would love to do so on a subsequent trip.  Have you ever been to Canada Hannibal and, if so, visited the Northern territories?

General Discussion / Re: prepare liver
« on: October 05, 2010, 04:52:41 pm »
Yeah I assume eating it every week in such large quantities would cause an overdose of something; vitamin A perhaps?

Yes, Vit A and copper toxicity would be the main ones to watch out for.

I think most carnivore liver has toxic levels of Vit.A so I guess that means they eat a lot of liver themselves.

That's an interesting line of thought miles.  I suppose, with limited Vit A production from consumption of Beta Carotene containing vegetation and limited other sources of Vitamin A, there could be some validity to your proposals.

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: 'girly' Meat & Liver 'salad'
« on: October 05, 2010, 04:46:18 pm »
Raw dairy IS illegal in Ontario, however many stores are allowed to sell fully-raw aged cheeses for SOME reason (I have seen it in a few supermarkets, many healthfood stores, and at Costco lol) :o I already had one from Switzerland (emmental) and one from Quebec (strong cheddar)...both were great. It's cool because I hate milk in any form anyway (so it wouldn't make me want to buy it even if it was raw) but although I don't like to consume a lot of dairy, I really really enjoy some good aged cheese it can be the best, especially if you want to have some type of comfort-food you can't beat a chunk of good aged cheese yummm!

I didn't realise that raw cheese was permissible.  That's great!  I agree that aged cheese can be one of the finest foods on occasion.  Some of the European artisan cheeses are quite wonderful.  Do you have access to any French or Spanish raw cheeses?

I am in Toronto, its a concrete jungle but I live on the outside of it so I have 2 huge parks on either side of my house each a five min walk away, with deer foxes etc. so I have the privilege of having some nature and being close to my beloved concrete jungle lol (I actually enjoy biking on busy streets and downtown it can be very mentally stimulating for me and fun, like a video game, go fast and between the cars and race with cars and other bikers, sense of danger too lol)

I stayed in Toronto for a couple of weeks as I actually really enjoyed the City.  I think it's a wonderful compromise to live on the edge of a City as you do so one gets to enjoy the best of both worlds.  I live in a similar location.  I'm surrounded by fields, woodland, off-road cycle tracks, wildlife etc yet am just a 30 min cycle ride from the City Centre and a 45 min drive from some heritage coastline.

I think Ontario has some beautiful nature around, we always drive down various lakes to swim on the summer weekends.
However for nature vacations we usually head to Quebec and Nova Scotia, where the nature can be just breathtaking to say the least... I never get why Canadians go to Cuba for the summer or something like that, wtf, there is such beauty around here nature-wise, and I prefer the ruggedness of it as a pose to a tropical beachy-banana place anyway.

You're certainly surrounded by far more breathtaking scenary than I am in my particular region of England.  I didn't see much of Quebec or Nova Scotia unfortunately but hope to on a return trip one day.

Although I, too, wonder at the attraction of 'beach holidays' I would very much like to visit Cuba for political and musical reasons.  But, I think Canada offers a lifetime of travel, adventure and discovery on it's own and there's probably little reason to ever leave! :)

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Whats your view on Raw Honey
« on: October 05, 2010, 04:38:14 pm »
It's definitely raw. I get it directly from one beekeeper.
Something like that -

I shouldn't really be surprised, Hannibal, that, like your meats, you have access to the most incredible looking honeycomb! :)  We can discount the possibility of poor quality honeycomb from the equation then.  Have you done any experimentation with blood sugar monitoring in a manner similar to PaleoPhil?

Heh, heh. I still do occasionally eat raw honey anyway. It is addictive, though, so I only buy small amounts at a time so I won't eat too much, and I try to limit the # of times I buy it. If it starts to become a problem for me, I'll stop buying it altogether.

It sounds like a class C drug! :)  Not too far from the truth perhaps?!

If I recall correctly, Dr. Davis thinks that any spikes over a certain level are unhealthy

Yes, that's what I recall too.  I certainly need to read up on these opinions more fully and take careful note of specific levels and timescales before I conduct any testing myself.

I think the testing you're doing is generating some extremely valuable information for yourself and the general forum knowledge base.

I'm surprised the juice had a less dramatic effect on your BG 2hr post test levels.  I wouldn't of expected this which, in itself, highlights the usefulness of the testing.  It's also interesting that you've observed an improved BG reaction since eating VLC/ZC for a period of time and that your fasting BG levels have increased.  Perhaps these are indications of improved insulin resistance and a sign that the body has already made progress with healing.  Of course, at this point, it wouldn't take long to entirely reverse any gains made by a recurrence of carb over-consumption.

General Discussion / Re: Raw Bone Meal
« on: October 05, 2010, 04:06:04 pm »
There's little scientific data on bone broths since the vast majority of the population don't consume that stuff any more. However, bone broths still do contain heat-created toxins. A bit less than other kinds of cooked foods, I assume, since advanced glycation end products are formed in fewer quantities if the animal foods are cooked in moisture.

It's my understanding that many of the heat-created toxins are produced in the presence of protein and carbs.  I would suppose, therefore, that the negligible levels of these in bone would result in significantly lower creation of heat-created toxins.

Is Alphagruis (our resident scientist) still around to lend his expertise and comment on this?

I'm thinking they're stronger.  Anyone here ever try grinding meat or chicken bones in a grain grinder?

I've never owned or used a grain miller unfortunately.  I would be surprised if it was suitable for bone but it's worth a try.  What type do you have RawZi?  I would expect a high quality mill with stone grinding plates to be the most suitable.  I'm not sure if ceramic would be up to the task.  Could you test the idea on one of your existing grinders?  If it breaks then at least you'd never be tempted to use it for the production of neolithic foods!  :)

I don't have data.  Bird bones are light and porous.  I think they may have more collagen too.  I'm sure there are lots of differences.

I would also suspect more nutrients would be available particularly if cartilage often found were also included.

General Discussion / Re: Shoes roundup
« on: October 05, 2010, 03:53:33 pm »
No worries Phil.  I hope it's of some use to you.

(BTW, I hope you received my update PM about the chin up bar.  Please let me know when it arrives safely!) :)

Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Whats your view on Raw Honey
« on: October 04, 2010, 03:50:18 am »
Thanks for sharing the results of that particular experiment Phil.  Very interesting!  I must buy a blood sugar monitor and start running some of my own tests!

Your source of raw honeycomb sounds absolutely amazing!  I've never heard of anything like that before.  What a shame you can't enjoy a little from time to time.

General Discussion / Re: Raw Bone Meal
« on: October 04, 2010, 03:45:00 am »
1) Where does one get human-grade raw bone meal (store bought)?

I think this has come up in previous tooth healing threads and, if I recall correctly, some members (I think PaleoPhil?) have tried using Dr Ron's bone formula as found here:

It sounds like it's a pretty good product to me although it would, of course, work out far more expensive than grinding your own raw bones as discussed in various threads by Van.

Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: 22 kg fatty male mutton
« on: October 04, 2010, 03:29:03 am »
Scavening birds that live there are ravens and crows. I love ravens  8)
To eat or watch!?   ???

That land had been bought by my grand grand father in 1926.
That land is about 4,5 hectares; it consists of forest, garden, orchards and large meadow. My father is now the owner, but I'm the only heir, successor.
The cost of that land is app. 1,5 million euro. ;)
Wow!  You're very fortunate Hannibal!  I guess that swiftly ends any thoughts I may of had about relocating! :)  Such an inheritance would serve well as the first raw paleo community as discussed in another thread?!?  How do you feel about opening it up for such a venture?!!  8) ;)

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