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unfortunately the ONLY grass-fed beef I have been able to find was ground, so it's either that or no grass-fed beef at all..

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Potato dinner replacement?
« on: July 25, 2010, 09:18:36 pm »
Whenever I go out to dinner with my family, I always get a steak dinner meal which also usually comes with a potato (whether you want it mashed, baked, or french fries) and steamed vegetables.

I always order my steak rare, though I would prefer to eat it raw, but you can't really order steak raw at a restaurant, and even if you could my dad would never let me, but lately I've been asking for fruit as a replacement for the vegetables, even before I found out about this raw-paleo diet, and I was pleasantly surprised to find that most restaurants will give you fresh fruit instead of steamed veggies.  However, I always asked for fries as the potato part, but now that I want to be on a raw diet, any cooked potato would be out of the question, so I wanted to ask you guys if you know any raw food alternative I could ask for at a restaurant to replace the potato part, similar to me replacing my veggies with fruit?

It would be nice to be able to mostly continue with a raw diet even when I go out to a restaurant with my family and am forced to eat my meat semi-cooked, but if I can find a suitable raw replacement for my potato, that would be awesome.

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I had some 100% grass-fed ground beef which became brown on the outside layer, and I still ate it and it was fine.  Just the flavour of it is a little more intense, but that actually made the ground beef easier for me to eat it raw.

It would probably be better to store the meat in the open rather than in a sealed tupperware, though, unless you aired it outside regularly which is how they make high-meat.  My ground beef also never even went into the fridge after I bought it, but I ate it within 24 hours.. but it was still left out in open-air no-refrigeration the whole time I was at work and while asleep too, just make sure no flies can get to the meat.  Keeping it in the fridge would probably help it last longer than 24 hours, which I'm not sure if I would have eaten my beef after 24 hours without refrigeration.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 25, 2010, 08:19:45 pm »

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 25, 2010, 08:19:13 pm »
where in the states do you live? please dont say "the republic of DADistan"

Lol, might as well be.
I live in Southern California, though.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Your usual diets?
« on: July 25, 2010, 08:07:43 pm »
Thanks, I did look up where the nearest whole foods was, and it's too far away.  I've checked eatwild as well, and the nearest farm on the list is probably about 2 or 3 hours away from me, and that would be if there wasn't much traffic the entire way.. while the majority of the farms are in Northern California, which might as well be another state or two away.  Shipping wouldn't be a good idea, since I might be questioned by my dad, plus I have no where to store extra meat.

I have been spending some money to buy my own raw meat, but it seems like something I would only be able to buy once or twice a week, when I would prefer to be able to buy and eat it everyday.. plus I can't find any packages of less than a pound of meat, which I seem to be unable to eat all at once before I get home.

I've already mostly gone raw for the passed few days, with the most-cooked/most-processed foods that I've eaten being commercial ("real california") pasteurized/homogenized milk and commercial raw pasteurized(i think, maybe homogenized too) eggs, and then a mouthful or two of commercial cheddar cheese, and a bunch of commercial honey.  I did buy myself some raw wild honey, though, but I couldn't find any in the comb.

I'm not sure if I will be able to continue this diet for long, though, I've been pretty hungry still most of the time, and though I've had an increase in energy when I wake up or after I eat some raw eggs, I get really really hungry once I go to work (which is bad when I work around tempting and good smelling pizza all day) and then I also start to get really tired after a while.  I do feel a lot better after eating like this, though, and my skin and hair feels better, but I just don't have enough of this food to keep it up forever.  But I am definitely going to avoid any processed foods as much as I possibly can.

however I'm afraid that most of my nutrient and fat intake is mainly coming from the eggs, which I am now wishing I had a few of my own chickens, and which I resolve to buy my own chickens once I'm living on my own.. they're not terribly hard to take care of, my babysitter used to have some, and it'd be worth having them to know that my eggs are perfectly fresh, raw, and naturally fed.  I'd love to have my own cows, too, but that seems like it would be much too expensive to have enough cows to get milk from and be able to slaughter some when I need the meat, and have all the land for them to graze on grass and such.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 25, 2010, 05:39:09 am »
I don't think I could eat an entire rabbit by myself.  >>;  plus, the idea of eating any organs other than the liver or heart kinda grosses me out.. and I also wouldn't be eating the skin/fur.  I also never had rabbit before so I don't even know if I'd like it in the first place.  Also I've never killed/gutted/skinned an animal before, and I don't know if having to do all the dirty work myself might be a bit off-putting, at least at first.   -\  And it seems like a pretty messy ordeal, I'd have to make sure to keep clean enough.. my dad's house is SPOTLESS, so if I even got the tiniest drop of blood in the house, he'd notice.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / High-meat effects?
« on: July 24, 2010, 10:58:39 pm »
I've read a lot about how to prepare high-meat and how it's called high-meat because of the effects it causes, but I don't think I've read anywhere exactly what those effects are?  I might just be retarded in finding things, though.   -\

But is there anyone who has eaten high-meat and gotten the effects that can describe those "high" effects in detail?  Is it different for each person or are the effects pretty much usually the same?

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Your usual diets?
« on: July 24, 2010, 10:34:00 pm »
In Southern California

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 24, 2010, 10:31:23 pm »
Takes all the fun out of a hunt!!
lol, just kidding, I thought about a trap but then there's the problem of keeping both my dad and my neighbors (who can easily see into the backyard) from noticing that I'm killing rabbits and eating them raw, and then I need to dispose of the rest of the carcass without anyone able to see/smell it..

I tend to get caught pretty easily and I don't even know HOW my dad would react if he knew I was eating raw rabbits.. probably send me to a psychiatrist at the very least, if not a mental ward or something.. he'd freak out.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 24, 2010, 01:56:26 pm »
I've never really been a big fan of chicken, and I doubt I'd be able to find chicken livers more easily than cow livers.

There's lots of rabbits that run around wild around my neighborhood, I wish I could catch one and eat it.. I wonder what rabbit meat and rabbit liver tastes like?
It would be very difficult to catch one, though, and even more difficult to go unnoticed..

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 24, 2010, 06:28:06 am »
aw man, and i really wanted to try liver.. but I seriously doubt I will be able to find any grass-fed or even organic raw liver anywhere.   :'( 
where else am I supposed to get all the nutrients that are found in liver?

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 24, 2010, 05:14:30 am »
Hm, I once tried honey in the comb, but I didn't much like the texture of the comb and always spat it out.. I don't think I even thought to swallow it, though, I thought that part was inedible.

I'm probably not dong things that "proper" but I'm trying as best as I can to stay raw.. I just have a few problems as far as finding raw/organic foods, having to avoid my dad finding out I'm eating raw meat/eggs, and not having much money to buy my own foods.. and I also haven't found much of a source of fat either, I can't seem to find any marrow, which I really want to try, and I'd prefer to avoid anything pork since whenever I've eaten it (all cooked, though) although it might taste good, I couldn't eat a lot of it before it gave me something of a sick feeling in my stomach and made me feel like the meat is somehow dirty.  The closest butcher I could even find (searching on the internet) was about 45 minutes to an hour drive away, and I couldn't even find much info about it, what I could find made it seem like it was pretty much just a meat processing company.

Probably my best sources for raw/organic foods are Fresh & Easy and Trader Joe's and they don't seem to have that wide of selection from what I could find.. Trader Joe's was the only place at all that I could even find 100% grass-fed beef, and it was only 85/15 ground-beef for about $6 a lb.

Also having trouble finding any liver, the only kind I could find was a plastic container full of very liquidy liver at my local commercial grocery store (and of that store's brand), which more than likely is grain-fed hormone-injected tortured-cow liver.. and I don't know if that would be very safe to eat raw?  and is it supposed to be so liquidy?

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I think I'd probably like my meat best blood-warm fresh from the cow.. too bad we can't just go around killing cows when we're hungry.   :'(

the ground beef was a lot easier to eat once it was warmer and been out in open-air for a little while, with the outside of it having become brown (but not too dry) and also stronger tasting.

I also ate some raw chunks of beef today, and they felt oh-so-much more solid in my stomach, it was a lot better, and delicious too.   >D

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 23, 2010, 06:25:55 pm »
I've never really had an intolerance to any type of food, other than for taste or texture.  Nothing I eat ever makes me sick, even when I was on SAD and ate horrible junk like crazy.  I'm not sure if I would be able to find raw milk or cheese anywhere though, unless I was able to find a farm, which would then most likely be grain-fed since there's like no 100% grass-fed farms around here.. so it's pretty much pasteurized or nothing.  =\
Thank you for your explanation though, and I don't mind at all if you digress, it's interesting to learn new things.  n.n

I love fruit, even though I'd prefer to be carnivorous, but it seems even the carnivores in the wild will occasionally have some fruit.. but I also love juicy food, so that might be a reason I like fruit.. plus the sweetness.  I also love me some cheese though, so I don't know which I'd pick over the other..
Do you ever eat anything like honey?  Or is that too much carbs?

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Awesome explination Cinna, and I agree with you.

And, for me at least, whenever I go to bed and wake up at the same time every day I feel like crap.. I prefer to have a more erratic sleeping schedule, and like Cinna said, paleo's probably didn't have such sound sleeping schedules either.  But it seems just like no diet is the same for everyone, maybe no sleeping schedule is that same for everyone, either.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Your usual diets?
« on: July 23, 2010, 06:58:50 am »
Where do you guys get your fat?  Can you only get it from like, a butcher?  Or is it possible to find it in a grocery store?  if it's in a store, what section is it usually in?  I never seen just fat by itself or any bone marrow, which I really really want to try.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 23, 2010, 06:51:56 am »
Hm, I don't think it's possible for me to find any raw milk.. I really love milk and don't want to exclude it from my diet though, but that study with women losing bone calcium and density sucks.   :'(   Does cheese (pasteurized) have the same effect, and is cheese even okay?

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Well, my dad keeps the fridge so cold that sometimes things end up freezing in there.  >~>;
plus I can't keep my meat in the fridge because my dad would freak if he know I was eating raw meat.. so I pretty much have to buy smaller amounts of meat and eat it all as fast as I can before it goes bad.

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I didn't mean the teen pregnancy thing as against younger pregnancies or anything, not trying to bring up a moral issue or anything, I just mean you see a lot more of them now than you used to (I think, at least according to my parents.) so in a sense it seems like pregnancies have gone up so far as to extend even into younger generations, meaning more babies are being born rather than less.  (so it seems)  but that's all just speculation, and I have no idea what the real statistics are.

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So the brown colour could just be that it's dried out rather than high?  The brown part does have a bit of a stronger taste to it, a taste that was usually very off-putting in the few pieces of grain-fed meat that I experimentally ate raw when I was younger but doesn't taste so bad in this grass-fed beef, and isn't really that dry though.

It's been out in open air for more than a couple hours, though.  >>;

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General Discussion / Re: A question on salt
« on: July 23, 2010, 12:18:36 am »
I've never used food as "comfort" or as a distraction from reality; if I am upset I have no appetite whatsoever and thinking of eating would make me feel a bit sick akin to eating even when you are stuffed so full you can't eat anymore.  I would not even have eaten anything at all once I stopped crying if it were not for my huge craving of salt.
but, perhaps what it could have been was something more like an addiction to salt, where my body felt like it needed it only because I was so used to having it in my system from my SAD diet, and when I lost so much in my tears I got a bad craving for it.  I have never been addicted to anything before (other than to maybe a person) so I would have never thought of it as an addiction, but instead an actual need.

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Well the ground beef seems quite a bit easier to eat after having warmed up, and after the surface turned a bit brown after sitting out.

does the brown mean it's slightly high?  or does it take a lot longer to start becoming high (or not even become high at all) even if it's been completely open-air rather than in a sealed jar?

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I know someone on this forum mentioned somewhere, I think it was actionhero, said that if your first meal of the day is composed of suger/carbs, that your body will adjust to them and not be able to digest fats as easily during the rest of the day..

Maybe try eating some steak for breakfast instead of seed/nut/fruit?  It should be able to help you a bit with the digestion of fats and therefore giving you better energy throughout the day with a mainly meat diet.

I've just started this raw-paleo diet as well, and although I'm usually pretty hungry throughout the day, I haven't really had a lack of energy, actually more of an increase of energy, at least when I wake up.. but, it probably hasn't quite been long enough yet for me to know any real results.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Your usual diets?
« on: July 22, 2010, 01:38:15 pm »
Hm, I dunno, all I know is that the more milk I consumed, the less the pain of my cramps.. as for trying potassium, I'd rather get it from a natural source than a pill/supplement..

How about anyone else's diets, though?  I wanted to see what variety there is, but so far I've only been given one diet.

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