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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Your usual diets?
« on: July 21, 2010, 02:25:13 pm »
Thank you so much for all of your replies!

And sorry, I'm a newbie to all of this, I didn't know dietary fiber was not needed!
I was always told that it was very good for cleaning out your colon and stuff.

So, klowcarb, you eat a diet entirely of meat/marrow/liver/eggs?  You never eat any type of plant food whatsoever?  or dairy like milk?  Where do you get calcium from?

I am somewhat concerned about calcium/milk intake because I have always gotten horrible menstrual cramps for my entire life.. so bad that they leave me curled up in a ball unable to move or do anything by cry in pain.  But then I saw one of those "got milk?" commercials that stated milk helps with the symptoms of PMS.  I decided to try it out, and began drinking large quantities of milk, (though commercial, homogenized, pasteurized, vitamin d, whole "real California milk") especially in the days before I was supposed to begin menstruation, and it GREATLY reduced the pain I usually experienced, even sometimes to the point where cramps were non-existent!  

I know a lot of you think dairy shouldn't be included in the diet, but I don't want to leave it out and have those horrible cramp-pains to return, unless I can find a suitable alternative to reduce the pain.  I figured mostly that it was the calcium and vitamin D in milk which helped sooth the cramps, but I am not entirely sure.. unless I can find an alternative source of calcium to experiment with (while I can get vitamin D from the sun).

Alternatively, it might also be the cause of whatever hormones or whatever are used to treat the cow, though the label says the cows are not treated with.. rBST or something like that, but who knows what else they use.  I hope that isn't the case, because then I don't know what I could do to keep the pain away, and only hope that cooked food was instead the culprit and that a mostly raw diet can help with the pain.

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ahh, I have felt much the same for most of my life, always craving the raw and bloody meat, drooling over it as we pass the meat section in the grocery store, intoxicated by its smell and its taste.. I have only yet recently stumbled across this raw-paleo diet, and have yet to start, but I am just as eager to begin regularly consuming raw meat.

I see that this post has been made about a month ago, though, how has your diet and you health fared since in this time?

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Why is it then that I normally feel so much more tired during the daylight hours, especially if it is hot, than during the night?

I actually don't believe humans should be strictly diurnal or strictly nocturnal.  I live in a very hot desert-like climate, and sleeping during the hottest hours of the day while staying awake more during the cooler nights seems a lot better idea to me.  Extreme heat causes me to feel very sluggish and fatigued, as well as easily irritable at having to make the slightest movements.

During a time while I was unemployed and had for a time, given up on finding a new job because of the terrible economy, I would only sleep when my body told me I was tired enough to fall asleep.  I would wake up whenever I naturally woke, and not because I was woken by any alarms.  I would never try to sleep if I did not feel tired, no matter what time it was, nor would I ever set my alarm to wake me at any specific times.
During this time, I noticed that my sleeping schedule normally rotated.  There would be a few days where I would sleep during the day, and be awake all night, then a few days later I was sleeping for half the day, and half the night, then a few days later I was sleeping all the night and awake all day, then sleeping half the night and half the day, and so on.  Being that I spent most of this time inside an air-conditioned house, my sleep was mostly unaffected by temperature.  At times I did stay in an un-airconditioned house, which would sometimes reach temperatures of 90 degrees (F) I was far more inclined to sleep during the day, but since the house was my mother's and since she strictly believes in a diurnal sleeping schedule, she would often interrupt my day-sleep and tell me to go to bed at night.

I think that people should only sleep if their body feels the need to sleep, and only wake when people feel the need to wake, regardless of the position of the sun, rather than forcing themselves to sleep at night and forcing themselves awake in the mornings with alarm clocks.  However, this becomes nearly impossible when one has a schedule of work/school that they cannot be late for.

As far as staying up until 2am "not being paleo," how do you know when they slept and when they were awake?  I know they probably were more often awake during the day since that was when most prey-animals were also awake, so they would need to be awake during the day to hunt, but that doesn't mean they would necessarily be strictly diurnal.  But do you have any sources that show that cavemen were definitely diurnal?

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Your usual diets?
« on: July 21, 2010, 01:39:44 am »
Hello, I am new here and quite new to this whole raw-paleo diet, since I have only found out about it a few days ago, but I have been obsessing lately about researching a lot of this diet stuff on the internet.. Though unfortunately I am still currently on an SAD.

I am very interested in starting to eat as much raw as I possibly can, and as soon as I can, and I have no problems with eating things like meat and eggs raw.. I've always preferred to eat my steaks rare and longed to eat them raw, but of course was never allowed and had been afraid of becoming sick from eating them raw since I was always told I would.  Though, it hadn't stopped me from trying raw beef a few times, as well as eating eggs raw sometimes as well, when I was able to sneak it passed my family.  My preference of tastes has always leaned more towards animal foods, so this raw-carnivorous diet intrigues me the most.

However, I was wondering what most of your daily diets looks like, or weekly diet if you don't always eat the same things every day.  I know everyone's dietary needs are individual, but I am curious to know what all you carnivorous-RZCers include in your diets to keep from becoming too deficient in any essential nutrients.. like dietary fiber, which I believe is only found in plant-foods.
Also I wonder how you manage to keep from eating every few hours, especially since raw meat digests faster than cooked meat, and I may just have fast metabolism/digestion but when I eat anything other than meat, I am usually hungry again within a few hours, and things like fruits do nothing to even curb my hunger let alone satisfy it, no matter how much of it I eat.

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General Discussion / Re: Living in the Wild.
« on: July 20, 2010, 09:40:44 pm »
I would absolutely LOVE to live in the wild.. I have always been obsessed with (fictional)books about people living in the wild ever since I was in elementary school, mostly from reading Jean Craighead George's books Julie of the Wolves (about an inuit girl who becomes lost on the arctic tundra and runs into a pack of Wolves whom she befriends and who help her to survive, which is also where my love of Wolves came about) and My Side of the Mountain (about a boy who runs away from his city life to live on the side of a foresty mountain owned by a relative, where he survives in a purely wild environment).

Ever since reading those books, or perhaps even before I don't remember, I have been fascinated with living in the Wild and surviving off the land as nature intended.. I have even sometimes wished for the "stranded on an island uninhabited by humans and being forced to find out a way to survive in nature" type scenario to happen to me.

Being able to live in the Wild, for me, would be a dream come true.

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General Discussion / Re: are fermented fruits good for you?
« on: July 20, 2010, 09:13:43 pm »
I have noticed sometimes when I eat fruit, I'll sometimes get parts that are somewhat mushy, and have an "off" taste that is hard to describe.. a bit over-sweet and somewhat bitter, perhaps, which I had also concluded them to be slightly fermented but I was never sure.  Usually I get this in grapes which are mushy rather than crunchy, but I have also eaten a piece of mango which was very soft and slightly mushy compared to the other pieces I had eaten which were very firm and crunchy, and it had that same taste.

I don't know if they were actually fermented, or just over-ripe/rotten, I refuse to drink alcohol so I don't know what it tastes like, which also causes me to avoid consuming any fruit I suspect to be fermented(and i hate mushy fruit anyways).  However, I have no idea if they are good/better for you, but I am curious to know if that peculiar taste does in fact mean that the fruit is fermented.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: too many eggs?
« on: July 19, 2010, 07:23:36 pm »
Speaking of having eggs for too long, I have some (commercial) chicken eggs in my fridge which have been in there for quite some time, a few months at least.. And I was wondering if they would have gone bad by now or if they are still safe to eat?  (and consume raw.)

I read somewhere that you can tell if an egg is rotten by putting it in water, if it sinks then it's good, if it floats it's rotten.. I tried this with one of the eggs from the fridge and it floated, but when I cracked it open in the sink there was no bad smell that I could tell and it looked good and normal.  I don't know if any of this is really an indication of eggs being rotten or not though, and I'm a bit afraid of trying to eat any of these eggs, especially since they are regular commercial eggs and not even close to being organic or anything in any way.

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I once bought some raw beef meat that was already in small chunks at the deli in my grocery store, which was probably the commercial grain-fed tortured-cow beef, though I have no idea but I'm pretty sure it was not grass-fed, and I am not sure if it had ever been frozen or not.  I began to eat it raw pretty much as soon as I got into my car after buying it, but then I noticed the meat began to obtain a brownish colour (like the high-meats in the pictures posted here) and also to acquire something of a rotten taste.. and I am now wondering if it had somehow become high-meat?  I don't know how old or for how long it had been sitting out at the grocery store.  I took the meat to be rotten, though, and stopped eating it raw, and instead took it come and tried cooking it to see if that would improve the taste(this was all before I ever found out about raw diets, I just always liked raw meat).. which was a huge mistake because it only made the taste worse and I ended up throwing all the meat away.

is it possible for meat to have become high or at least partially-high meat so fast?  especially if had been sitting out in the open air in the deli for the entire day?  (though kept in cool/refrigerated temperatures)

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 19, 2010, 06:06:38 am »
Thank you!

Lol, I was pretty close with my guess.. "Stupid/Standard American Diet"

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: traveling/food
« on: July 19, 2010, 01:45:17 am »
You mentioned that eating crap food--though a salad like you described isn't normally considered "crap," and forgive me because I am new to all of this, but what part of it exactly is "crap"?.. or did you mean you were about to go eat something else less healthy?--causes you to break out.  I've only recently, as in within the passed few days, heard about raw paleo diets, so I have never eaten completely raw before (though I usually prefer my food undercooked, but it is all commercial stuff, and I do tend to eat a lot of processed foods) but I have a problem with acne.. and I was wondering exactly what kind of diet it is that you have, that keeps your skin so clear, and also what foods that cause you to break out? 

Thank you.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 19, 2010, 01:25:01 am »
also I would like to ask, what does SAD stand for?  as far as I could discern, it seems to stand for something like.. Stupid American Diet.

I was able to figure things like i think RZC meaning.. Raw Zero Carbs, I believe, though.. but the acronyms are still a bit confusing.

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Welcoming Committee / Hello, new here..
« on: July 19, 2010, 01:12:50 am »
Hi there, I'm pretty much new not only to this forum, but to the raw paleo diet in general.. it's actually only been within the passed few days that I even discovered such a diet exists.  I find it very intriguing, however, because even though I live in America where everyone loves to eat their food over-cooked and over-processed, I have always preferred eating my foods more on the raw or undercooked side.. Especially my steaks and my eggs, which in fact, if my parents had ever let me, I would have consumed all of my (beef)meat completely raw.  I have actually eaten raw (beef)meat a few times, and I find it absolutely delicious and preferable since I actually find the taste of any beef bought from the grocery store and cooked to taste horrible, and I also love the taste of raw egg yolks (though I'm more adverse to eating the whites raw, mostly only because of the thick slimy part of the whites is unappealing in texture and makes me gag a bit..the more watery-liquid part doesn't bother me, especially if I mix it with the yolk, but I have always thought of egg whites as having hardly any nutritional value, whereas the yolk is rich and preferable).. but I have mostly had to eat them (both beef and eggs) raw in secret so that my parents wouldn't know, because they would not let me eat them raw if they knew.. Even though I am 21 years old, I do still live with my parents and am still subject to their rule.

As far as chicken and pork, I have only ever consumed them fully-cooked, and I am actually afraid to eat them raw, unlike with beef.  Well, I am still somewhat afraid to eat beef raw, but not enough to deter me completely from doing so, or from eating any of my steaks undercooked.. or at least, I was, until I read through this forum and on a few other sites about people eating everything raw with no adverse effects.. it has inspired me to be less afraid in eating completely raw beef.. The only problem I have is the lack of available grass-fed beef(as well as the fact that most of the beef/eggs/milk and such available to me are of the commercial grocery-store variety rather than organic in any way..unless you count that I drink/eat Real California Milk/Cheese, since I live in Southern California and made sure to always buy milk with the "Real California Milk" label on it, but I'm thinking organic milk might be a better choice), as far as I know I have never come across grass-fed before.. The closest I could find by trying a Fresh & Easy store near my work was never-frozen corn-fed beef, which I think I shall like to try eating raw.. Although they came in rather large quantities, and I would have to eat it all at once before I got home, to avoid revealing the fact that I'm eating raw meat to my Dad.  I think I might also try checking Trader Joe's.. I know someone on this forum who also lives in Southern California mentioned they were able to find grass-fed beef and such at a Whole Foods store, but when I looked up the nearest one to me, it was much too far away.

The carnivorous no carb diet interests me the most, however, because I am very fond of meat and animal products(I eat meat everyday if I can, and always eat steak whenever we eat at a sit-down restaurant, which I always order as rare, and is my most favourite thing of all to eat; I also drink milk everyday if we have it, and/or eat cheese, but I think I read that it is best to exclude all dairy from your diet?  if so, then where do you get your calcium?), and rather disgusted by vegetables, especially leafy ones like spinach or lettuce, which feel very inedible to me.  I've also mostly always hated breads, which seems to be one of the main grain-foods that everyone in this forum seems to avoid, though.  Are grain-foods a thing that ALL of you do not eat?  And if so, then what exactly do these grain-foods entail, other than bread?

Oh yes, and I wanted to add that I have never tried liver before, but I really want to try eating beef-liver raw.. I know that it is not something to eat everyday, only every once in a while, but I don't even know if I like it.. but I'm also not even sure if I will be able to find any at all, let alone grass-fed beef-liver which would be better.  Would they have it at Trader Joe's, or at least grain-fed at a typical grocery store?  Another thing I want to try is cow-bone-marrow.. (I really like eating cow.)  I don't even know where to begin looking for raw bone marrow that I can eat, though.. but anyways.

Fruit, on the other hand, is delicious and I love to eat it, but I have read that there are carnivorous animals like Tigers and Wolves in the wild who eat fruit, so I don't think eating fruit excludes one as a carnivore.  However, I've been reading that fruit is very detrimental to your teeth, which causes me to want to cut back on fruit despite how delicious I find it.  But then I have another dilemma, because for some reason I find the taste of water to be absolutely disgusting.  I know most people say water has no taste, but I can assure you that I taste it very much, no matter if the water is from tap, filtered, or bottled of any brand.. and I can only stand to take a gulp or two of water, only after I have just eaten something and it's flavour is still in my mouth and thus dilutes the flavour of the water for a moment, before the water then causes me to gag.  I don't know why this is, but it creates quite a problem to try to find healthy drinks and to not become dehydrated.. I tend to rely on the liquids from milk and/or fruit juices along with just plain fruit to keep me hydrated, I noticed that when I drank more milk and ate more fruit I was less thirty for the juice.  However when I am at work and become thirsty I tend to drink soda since we can get them for free or very cheap and I can't get milk or juice or fruit, or at least not for free, and I can't afford to be buying expensive little bottles of milk or juice everyday.

I am also glad to find that intermittent fasting seems to be beneficial to health, because I do so instinctively all the time.. or at least somewhat.  There will be days that I don't feel like eating much, and won't consume anything for a few days other than juice or milk to keep from becoming dehydrated, and even so I don't feel thirsty often, though I supposed drinking milk and juice doesn't count as fasting completely, but I hardly have a choice when I cannot drink water.  I have also noticed a bit that whether I feel like fasting, or even the opposite where I seem to feel hungry no matter how much I eat, depends on my menstrual cycle.. I find that I tend to be hungry all the time and able to eat large quantities of food when I am closer to starting my period, whereas I only ever feel like fasting when I am not near starting, or not on.  This is a more recent observation though, and I'm not sure yet when I feel like fasting is, relative to when I am ovulating.

Well, sorry that my post is so long, but I am so glad to find that there are people out there who do prefer a completely raw diet, and not just ones who are vegans or vegetarians.. but even those of you who go with a completely carnivorous diet!  And raw, at that, without any bad health side effects!  I would really like to try a raw carnivorous diet, but I don't know what all I would have to include in such a diet to make sure I am not missing any essential nutrients that would cause health problems.  Do any of you have any diet plans that you could share?

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: chewy fat on meat cuts
« on: July 18, 2010, 09:13:01 pm »
So is there no nutritional value to the connective tissues, or is it something that you would want to try to eat anyways?

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Brushing Teeth
« on: July 18, 2010, 09:11:29 pm »
Throughout my entire life, I have rarely brushed my teeth, mostly only when I was younger and my parents made me.  Even then, the most often I ever brushed my teeth was once a day, because I always hated the taste of toothpaste, though I used it when my parents told me to brush my teeth.  Now that I am older and my parents aren't always telling me what to do, I hardly ever brush my teeth, nor have I been to the dentist since I was about 5 or 6 years old.  The times I felt guilty for not brushing my teeth, I usually brushed using only water.  I have never had a cavity or much tooth problems, except that my teeth are a bit on the yellow side, and also more recently I've noticed my breath doesn't smell so great.  Because of that I ended up buying some listerine to swish my mouth with and toothpaste to brush with, but I'm afraid that it will kill any of the good bacteria in my mouth along with the bad.  I've always had high saliva production though, I am probably constantly swallowing every 10 - 20 seconds.

I don't think not brushing your teeth will do much of anything to your teeth, no matter what your diet.  My diet pretty much consists of mostly cooked foods, though I've mostly preferred my food to be more on the undercooked side, with rare steaks and sunny-side-up eggs.. but I do live in America, and eaten my share of overcooked, processed, and fast foods, and drinking plenty of soda.. which is all probably more of a contribution to my yellowish teeth and bad breath.

However, I have lately been wanting to take better care of my teeth, and I was wondering if anyone knew a good store where I could buy some of that miswak?  A store which could be found in Southern California?

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I have been unable to find any evidence of Lions in particular consuming fruits, however I did find that Tigers have been known to eat a specific fruit for dietary fiber, as well that Wolves will eat various berries and a few other fruits like apples.

Perhaps it is the lack of available fruit on the African Savannah, or at least I would assume there is a lack of fruit, that prevents the more commonly observed Lions from eating any fruit.

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