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bleh, grain.

and a crust sounds kinda gross actually.  >~>;

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Lol, if the future is grim for having kids, then why there so many teen and unwanted pregnancies?

and anyways, I see infertility in humans as a good thing.  They're already overpopulating and destroying this planet, maybe they'll actually be the cause of their own decline and finally balance things out.

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My sleep schedule is messed up and I experience insomnia. Sleeping is very tiring to me and I wake up feeling terrible. The rest of the day I feel terrible and weak like a zombie, but after about 7:00-9:00 PM I begin to feel slightly better and have more energy.

That's sounds a lot like me, actually, except maybe not so bad and I don't really have insomnia.
I've been feeling rather more energized so far since starting raw, but it's only been about a day or two lol, so I don't know if it will last or go away or get better.

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Hot Topics / Re: where to get fresh meat
« on: July 22, 2010, 12:07:20 pm »
I have a Fresh & Easy that just went up by my work that sells never-frozen beef, but it's corn-fed.

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I actually found some organic, 100% grass-fed, 85/15 ground beef at Trader Joe's.. it's the only grass-fed beef I have been able to find, unless you count steaks that said the cows were fed a "100% organic vegetarian diet" but what does that mean?  And what does it mean if the cows are free-range?  I bought a pound of the ground beef though, and ate a little over half of it raw.  The store that has it is about 10 - 11 miles from my house, though, kinda far..

It was pretty mushy though, I don't think I like ground beef all that much, and my stomach's been feeling weird having so much mushy and un-solid food in it.. like raw eggs and raw ground beef and fruit and milk.. I'm hoping that some good solid chunks of meat will feel more solid in my stomach than all this, whenever I can get around to buying some.  Or is it a bad thing for your food to feel solid in your stomach?  It's probably a lot easier for my body to digest all this mushy food, but I still like the feeling of a solid meal in my stomach.

The meat was also kinda cold, and I think that was bit off-putting, along with the mushyness.. Do you guys eat your raw meat cold?  if not, then how do you warm it up?  Just leave it out on the counter until it's room temperature?  If so, it doesn't get spoiled or high by doing that?  What are some things that might spoil the meat?

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I might move out of here someday, I don't know, but for now I don't have much of a choice.

And usually I actually feel quite a bit more invigorated by the moonlight and the cool night air than in sunlight and hot day air.  I work at a pizza place delivering pizza, so actually most of the time I'm out driving around in the sunlight, but my car also has no air conditioning so it's usually uncomfortably hot and I can't wait until the sun goes down and things cool off.

Another thing that makes me feel actually rather hyper and energetic is rainy weather.  i LOVE rainy weather!  it makes me just want to run all around outside and go crazy, lol.

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Yeah, it would be nice if I could live on my own and eat the way I want, but the fact is that I just don't make enough money.. I rely on my dad for a roof over my head and food in the fridge.. The majority of the money I make goes into paying my other bills.  Unfortunately it's probably impossible to convince him to switch to an all raw or even all organic diet.. he's still very much SAD and even eats fast food sometimes.

I haven't read any books about this really, just been searching stuff up on the web a lot.  If you have like an online version of his books, I could take a look.
I never really thought eating things raw could really cause people to get sick.. I mean, animals eat everything raw all the time, so why shouldn't humans?

Grass-fed meat is something of a problem, though, I can't seem to find anywhere that has it, and even checking sites online don't show any grass-fed farms anywhere around me.  Organic will probably be the best I can find, if I can even find it..
I do know a store where I can get never-frozen corn-fed beef, though.. I think that's a bit better than the commercial grain-fed?  I'm not sure.  I'm going to try checking another store today, though.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Do you guys ever eat snacks?
« on: July 22, 2010, 02:55:15 am »
I just started trying this raw diet, and I'm pretty hungry right now.. there's not much raw stuff to eat in my house right now though, other than eggs, milk, honey, pineapple/mango, and bean sprouts.. honey, milk, fruit, and bean sprouts won't do much on the way of filling me, and I'd rather try and not eat all of the eggs the day after buying them.   -\  I kinda gotta moderate how much food I eat so it will last me.
I want to buy some meat to eat before I go to work today, but that's not for about another 4 hours and I don't want to leave now and have 2 - 3 hours of time to just sit around in my car and do nothing but wait for work, and the stores are too far away for me to just go and get my meat then come home.  I also can't keep raw meat around, because my dad will freak if he finds out I'm eating raw meat.

So is there anything more convenient and a bit more socially acceptable that you guys keep around to snack on?  I usually go through a bit of feast-or-famine phases, and right now I'm in more of a feast stage, where I'm hungry all the time.. it would be nice to have something to snack on all the time, that fits more in the carnivore type diet.. especially since it will also help to prevent me from resorting to processed/cooked foods when I'm really hungry and the raw plant stuff just doesn't seem filling enough and those mac and cheeses start looking mighty tasty..

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General Discussion / Re: A question on salt
« on: July 22, 2010, 02:16:55 am »
Hm, I think salt is something of an important substance, though I never add to any of my foods anymore after one day when I was younger I was eating some wheat thins and finished off the bag, but still wanted more, so I poured the crumbs into my mouth and got a mouthful of salt.. it was disgusting and i never added salt to my food after that, however I do like the taste of things high in sodium like soy sauce and top ramen which I still ate a lot on SAD. (I've only just recently started trying to eat raw)

However, my reason that I think salt is important is from an experience I had, in which I had been crying constantly for an entire day.. I cried for hours and hours without stopping, and I think I lost a rather large amount of salt through my tears, because when I finally did stop crying, I suddenly had the BIGGEST craving for salt in my entire life.. in fact, also the ONLY craving for pure salt that I had ever had.  But I felt like I really needed salt very very badly, and it was very unusual.. when I finally did get some salt (regular commercial table salt) I poured it into my hand and ate it straight.. which was the only time I've eaten straight salt ever since my wheat thin incident.

I don't think salt should be added to anything you eat (unless you get some sort of craving for it like I did) though I am not sure how much sodium you get on a raw diet, but it seems to me like you would already get sufficient amounts from the food you eat.. but I'm used to a SAD diet which pretty much already has salt in everything.

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General Discussion / Re: Already finding cooked meats putting me off?
« on: July 22, 2010, 01:51:04 am »
It's hearing reports like these that make me wonder why humans even began to eat cooked foods in the first place.  o.O

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General Discussion / Re: Anyone here eat insects?
« on: July 22, 2010, 01:47:40 am »
I suspect that prior to inventing projectile weapons, invertebrates--including insects--made up the majority of the animal protein that our species consumed.  Think about it, we can't run particularly fast, don't have fierce teeth or claws, so in the absence of spears or bows & arrows how would we have gotten meat?  Answer:  we wouldn't, except for the rare instances when we found a dead animal another species had killed and we manage to chase it off.  Prior to developing projectile weapons, we were probably more often the prey than the predator, except as regards invertebrates and perhaps fish.

Thinking from an evolutionary standpoint, though I hardly know anything about evolution as I am Christian and don't even believe in it, so please forgive me for any ignorance, but to me it would seem that it would make more sense that we became weaker after we began using tools to catch and devour our prey.. a dependence on spears or bows would mean that one would not need to use speed or claws to bring down prey, therefore natural selection would not necessarily pick the fastest or fiercest to survive anymore.. using knives and such to cut up our prey would give less dependence on our teeth for ripping and chewing up our meat, thus making our teeth more blunt and less sharp.. thinking along those lines, I also wonder if that would instead cause natural selection to favour those who were smarter with the use of tools instead of those who were stronger, thus also being a possible explanation for our evolution of intelligence.

I recently read an article about how chimpanzees are beginning to use sharp sticks as a type of spear to help them catch prey.. to the point where they break off the stick themselves and even trim it or strip it of bark.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6387611.stm

However, there are also a very many species of birds who have been using tools, including a woodpecker finch who will break of the needle of a cactus or a twig and trim it as a way to reach larva within the crevices of a tree, similar to the chimps, or the crows of Japan who drop walnuts in the middle of an intersection and wait for a car to run them over, and for the light to turn red before they go to eat the broken nut..
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/parrots-in-the-land-of-oz/birds-that-use-tools/714/

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General Discussion / Re: Raw Egg Yolk and Stomach?
« on: July 21, 2010, 08:18:47 pm »
how long does the taste of sweetness with water last, after consuming raw eggs?  also, does it last passed eating something else afterwards?

I dis-like the taste of water, so something which would cause my tastebuds to think it's sweeter without actually adding anything to make it sweet would be amazing.

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Hm, being inside a house might be a major factor of my sleeping schedule, however as far as being able to see, outside I can still see pretty much perfectly well on any clear night when the moon is out, and especially if the moon is full.. and I also don't put much stock in being able to see well anyways.. my natural eyes have terrible eyesight, and anything even armslength away is pretty blurry for me.  If I was just using my natural eyes, I'd be pretty much just as blind in full daylight as most humans would be in the dead of night with only a sliver of moon.  I wear contacts to see, though.

Also, you assume that during hot times I am also wearing clothes.. I actually prefer not to be wearing clothes, or wearing very little clothing, no matter if the temperature is cool or hot.  I think actually this has increased my intolerance to heat, because whereas before when I was normally always wearing clothes, I was used to being so heavily insulated even when it was very hot, and my body got used to it, so that when it became unbearably hot, removing some clothing was "extra" cooling.  Now that I am used to very little clothing, I am not used to so much heat anymore, and I also no longer have that "extra" sense of being cooled by being able to remove clothes.

also, perspiration only works effectively in dry climates.  When you're in a humid climate, the perspiration is not able to dry, therefore unable to cool you.  While I do live in a dry climate, the insides of houses still become humid, so during those hot days it's pretty much a choice of whether you want to be in 115ºF dry outside weather or 90Fº humid indoor weather.  You feel over-hot either way.

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Also along with the whole sleep thing, I've noticed there were times where I could go into something I like to think of as "hibernation mode," where I would sleep for a few days straight, only waking up about every 10 - 12 hours to eat/drink something and use the bathroom, before going right back to sleep again for another 10 - 12 hours.  I've also used this "hibernation mode" during times that were low on food, as an alternative to fasting.  I've only done it for at most about 3 - 4 days before either there was food again, or there was something I needed to stay awake for (like work/school/family stuff/or even feeling guilty for sleeping too much) though I'm pretty sure I could have continued like that for at least a week, if not much longer.

I don't know if this is a bad thing, since it is pretty much controllable by me, or if any other human is capable of such a thing.. nor do I know if it really is a type of state of true hibernation, since I have no idea if hibernating creatures wake up every once in a while to eat or uh.. relieve themselves, or anything, or if I am in any sort of deeper/hibernation-type sleep than normal.  I have no idea, though I would think not.  But I don't know what it is that makes me capable of sleeping for days on end.

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Hm, I had never heard about Melatonin and stuff, very interesting.. I can usually just as easily fall asleep with the light on as off, and I know a lot of times I'll start to feel sleepy once the sun starts to shine in through my windows.. but maybe I just have messed up Melatonin or glands or something, lol.  My sleeping schedule has never been very regular except for when I was in school, and then I always had the most horrible times trying to wake up in the mornings no matter how early I went to bed the night before.  You ever get that feeling right after you wake up and you try to grip onto something, like a cap to twist it off, and it just feels like you hand is useless and can't do it?  That was pretty much how my entire body felt every single morning.  Not fun. 
Ever since getting out of school and not being forced on such a rigorous sleeping schedule though, I actually haven't felt that way in years.

as far as trying to combat the fatigue, lol.. I hardly every feel stressed out, I rarely, if ever, exercise much more than a bit of walking around during work (bad, I know, but I'm extremely lazy), and I tend to sleep about 10 - 12 hours a day.. sometimes more.
I also rarely, if ever, eat any candies, cookies, ice creams, treats, chocolates, or sweets, I pretty much avoid anything sweet other than fresh fruit (my idea of the perfect dessert is a bowl full of strawberries, pineapple, blackberries, and kiwi.. yummy!) and sugary juices to drink (because I hate the taste of water, but when there's milk and fruit available I prefer to consume those for hydration than the bad for me sugar juices) and have mostly cut soda from my diet altogether (neither do I drink coffee). 

So, uh.. lol, I really don't know what causes so much of my fatigue, except that maybe I actually don't get enough exercise, and maybe my somewhat usual SAD diet was to blame.. I'm hoping that starting to eat most of my foods raw, will help with my fatigue, though.
Thank you for your advice, though.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Your usual diets?
« on: July 21, 2010, 05:16:18 pm »
ah, thank you for the link.

so what about RPDers who eat a lot of vegetables?  I think most vegetables have fiber, so does that cause adverse health effects for them?

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Your usual diets?
« on: July 21, 2010, 02:25:13 pm »
Thank you so much for all of your replies!

And sorry, I'm a newbie to all of this, I didn't know dietary fiber was not needed!
I was always told that it was very good for cleaning out your colon and stuff.

So, klowcarb, you eat a diet entirely of meat/marrow/liver/eggs?  You never eat any type of plant food whatsoever?  or dairy like milk?  Where do you get calcium from?

I am somewhat concerned about calcium/milk intake because I have always gotten horrible menstrual cramps for my entire life.. so bad that they leave me curled up in a ball unable to move or do anything by cry in pain.  But then I saw one of those "got milk?" commercials that stated milk helps with the symptoms of PMS.  I decided to try it out, and began drinking large quantities of milk, (though commercial, homogenized, pasteurized, vitamin d, whole "real California milk") especially in the days before I was supposed to begin menstruation, and it GREATLY reduced the pain I usually experienced, even sometimes to the point where cramps were non-existent!  

I know a lot of you think dairy shouldn't be included in the diet, but I don't want to leave it out and have those horrible cramp-pains to return, unless I can find a suitable alternative to reduce the pain.  I figured mostly that it was the calcium and vitamin D in milk which helped sooth the cramps, but I am not entirely sure.. unless I can find an alternative source of calcium to experiment with (while I can get vitamin D from the sun).

Alternatively, it might also be the cause of whatever hormones or whatever are used to treat the cow, though the label says the cows are not treated with.. rBST or something like that, but who knows what else they use.  I hope that isn't the case, because then I don't know what I could do to keep the pain away, and only hope that cooked food was instead the culprit and that a mostly raw diet can help with the pain.

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ahh, I have felt much the same for most of my life, always craving the raw and bloody meat, drooling over it as we pass the meat section in the grocery store, intoxicated by its smell and its taste.. I have only yet recently stumbled across this raw-paleo diet, and have yet to start, but I am just as eager to begin regularly consuming raw meat.

I see that this post has been made about a month ago, though, how has your diet and you health fared since in this time?

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Why is it then that I normally feel so much more tired during the daylight hours, especially if it is hot, than during the night?

I actually don't believe humans should be strictly diurnal or strictly nocturnal.  I live in a very hot desert-like climate, and sleeping during the hottest hours of the day while staying awake more during the cooler nights seems a lot better idea to me.  Extreme heat causes me to feel very sluggish and fatigued, as well as easily irritable at having to make the slightest movements.

During a time while I was unemployed and had for a time, given up on finding a new job because of the terrible economy, I would only sleep when my body told me I was tired enough to fall asleep.  I would wake up whenever I naturally woke, and not because I was woken by any alarms.  I would never try to sleep if I did not feel tired, no matter what time it was, nor would I ever set my alarm to wake me at any specific times.
During this time, I noticed that my sleeping schedule normally rotated.  There would be a few days where I would sleep during the day, and be awake all night, then a few days later I was sleeping for half the day, and half the night, then a few days later I was sleeping all the night and awake all day, then sleeping half the night and half the day, and so on.  Being that I spent most of this time inside an air-conditioned house, my sleep was mostly unaffected by temperature.  At times I did stay in an un-airconditioned house, which would sometimes reach temperatures of 90 degrees (F) I was far more inclined to sleep during the day, but since the house was my mother's and since she strictly believes in a diurnal sleeping schedule, she would often interrupt my day-sleep and tell me to go to bed at night.

I think that people should only sleep if their body feels the need to sleep, and only wake when people feel the need to wake, regardless of the position of the sun, rather than forcing themselves to sleep at night and forcing themselves awake in the mornings with alarm clocks.  However, this becomes nearly impossible when one has a schedule of work/school that they cannot be late for.

As far as staying up until 2am "not being paleo," how do you know when they slept and when they were awake?  I know they probably were more often awake during the day since that was when most prey-animals were also awake, so they would need to be awake during the day to hunt, but that doesn't mean they would necessarily be strictly diurnal.  But do you have any sources that show that cavemen were definitely diurnal?

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Your usual diets?
« on: July 21, 2010, 01:39:44 am »
Hello, I am new here and quite new to this whole raw-paleo diet, since I have only found out about it a few days ago, but I have been obsessing lately about researching a lot of this diet stuff on the internet.. Though unfortunately I am still currently on an SAD.

I am very interested in starting to eat as much raw as I possibly can, and as soon as I can, and I have no problems with eating things like meat and eggs raw.. I've always preferred to eat my steaks rare and longed to eat them raw, but of course was never allowed and had been afraid of becoming sick from eating them raw since I was always told I would.  Though, it hadn't stopped me from trying raw beef a few times, as well as eating eggs raw sometimes as well, when I was able to sneak it passed my family.  My preference of tastes has always leaned more towards animal foods, so this raw-carnivorous diet intrigues me the most.

However, I was wondering what most of your daily diets looks like, or weekly diet if you don't always eat the same things every day.  I know everyone's dietary needs are individual, but I am curious to know what all you carnivorous-RZCers include in your diets to keep from becoming too deficient in any essential nutrients.. like dietary fiber, which I believe is only found in plant-foods.
Also I wonder how you manage to keep from eating every few hours, especially since raw meat digests faster than cooked meat, and I may just have fast metabolism/digestion but when I eat anything other than meat, I am usually hungry again within a few hours, and things like fruits do nothing to even curb my hunger let alone satisfy it, no matter how much of it I eat.

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General Discussion / Re: Living in the Wild.
« on: July 20, 2010, 09:40:44 pm »
I would absolutely LOVE to live in the wild.. I have always been obsessed with (fictional)books about people living in the wild ever since I was in elementary school, mostly from reading Jean Craighead George's books Julie of the Wolves (about an inuit girl who becomes lost on the arctic tundra and runs into a pack of Wolves whom she befriends and who help her to survive, which is also where my love of Wolves came about) and My Side of the Mountain (about a boy who runs away from his city life to live on the side of a foresty mountain owned by a relative, where he survives in a purely wild environment).

Ever since reading those books, or perhaps even before I don't remember, I have been fascinated with living in the Wild and surviving off the land as nature intended.. I have even sometimes wished for the "stranded on an island uninhabited by humans and being forced to find out a way to survive in nature" type scenario to happen to me.

Being able to live in the Wild, for me, would be a dream come true.

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General Discussion / Re: are fermented fruits good for you?
« on: July 20, 2010, 09:13:43 pm »
I have noticed sometimes when I eat fruit, I'll sometimes get parts that are somewhat mushy, and have an "off" taste that is hard to describe.. a bit over-sweet and somewhat bitter, perhaps, which I had also concluded them to be slightly fermented but I was never sure.  Usually I get this in grapes which are mushy rather than crunchy, but I have also eaten a piece of mango which was very soft and slightly mushy compared to the other pieces I had eaten which were very firm and crunchy, and it had that same taste.

I don't know if they were actually fermented, or just over-ripe/rotten, I refuse to drink alcohol so I don't know what it tastes like, which also causes me to avoid consuming any fruit I suspect to be fermented(and i hate mushy fruit anyways).  However, I have no idea if they are good/better for you, but I am curious to know if that peculiar taste does in fact mean that the fruit is fermented.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: too many eggs?
« on: July 19, 2010, 07:23:36 pm »
Speaking of having eggs for too long, I have some (commercial) chicken eggs in my fridge which have been in there for quite some time, a few months at least.. And I was wondering if they would have gone bad by now or if they are still safe to eat?  (and consume raw.)

I read somewhere that you can tell if an egg is rotten by putting it in water, if it sinks then it's good, if it floats it's rotten.. I tried this with one of the eggs from the fridge and it floated, but when I cracked it open in the sink there was no bad smell that I could tell and it looked good and normal.  I don't know if any of this is really an indication of eggs being rotten or not though, and I'm a bit afraid of trying to eat any of these eggs, especially since they are regular commercial eggs and not even close to being organic or anything in any way.

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I once bought some raw beef meat that was already in small chunks at the deli in my grocery store, which was probably the commercial grain-fed tortured-cow beef, though I have no idea but I'm pretty sure it was not grass-fed, and I am not sure if it had ever been frozen or not.  I began to eat it raw pretty much as soon as I got into my car after buying it, but then I noticed the meat began to obtain a brownish colour (like the high-meats in the pictures posted here) and also to acquire something of a rotten taste.. and I am now wondering if it had somehow become high-meat?  I don't know how old or for how long it had been sitting out at the grocery store.  I took the meat to be rotten, though, and stopped eating it raw, and instead took it come and tried cooking it to see if that would improve the taste(this was all before I ever found out about raw diets, I just always liked raw meat).. which was a huge mistake because it only made the taste worse and I ended up throwing all the meat away.

is it possible for meat to have become high or at least partially-high meat so fast?  especially if had been sitting out in the open air in the deli for the entire day?  (though kept in cool/refrigerated temperatures)

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Hello, new here..
« on: July 19, 2010, 06:06:38 am »
Thank you!

Lol, I was pretty close with my guess.. "Stupid/Standard American Diet"

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