I just started trying this raw diet, and I'm pretty hungry right now.. there's not much raw stuff to eat in my house right now though, other than eggs, milk, honey, pineapple/mango, and bean sprouts.. honey, milk, fruit, and bean sprouts won't do much on the way of filling me, and I'd rather try and not eat all of the eggs the day after buying them.     I kinda gotta moderate how much food I eat so it will last me.
I want to buy some meat to eat before I go to work today, but that's not for about another 4 hours and I don't want to leave now and have 2 - 3 hours of time to just sit around in my car and do nothing but wait for work, and the stores are too far away for me to just go and get my meat then come home.  I also can't keep raw meat around, because my dad will freak if he finds out I'm eating raw meat.

So is there anything more convenient and a bit more socially acceptable that you guys keep around to snack on?  I usually go through a bit of feast-or-famine phases, and right now I'm in more of a feast stage, where I'm hungry all the time.. it would be nice to have something to snack on all the time, that fits more in the carnivore type diet.. especially since it will also help to prevent me from resorting to processed/cooked foods when I'm really hungry and the raw plant stuff just doesn't seem filling enough and those mac and cheeses start looking mighty tasty..

It's hearing reports like these that make me wonder why humans even began to eat cooked foods in the first place.  o.O

how long does the taste of sweetness with water last, after consuming raw eggs?  also, does it last passed eating something else afterwards?

I dis-like the taste of water, so something which would cause my tastebuds to think it's sweeter without actually adding anything to make it sweet would be amazing.

Also along with the whole sleep thing, I've noticed there were times where I could go into something I like to think of as "hibernation mode," where I would sleep for a few days straight, only waking up about every 10 - 12 hours to eat/drink something and use the bathroom, before going right back to sleep again for another 10 - 12 hours.  I've also used this "hibernation mode" during times that were low on food, as an alternative to fasting.  I've only done it for at most about 3 - 4 days before either there was food again, or there was something I needed to stay awake for (like work/school/family stuff/or even feeling guilty for sleeping too much) though I'm pretty sure I could have continued like that for at least a week, if not much longer.

I don't know if this is a bad thing, since it is pretty much controllable by me, or if any other human is capable of such a thing.. nor do I know if it really is a type of state of true hibernation, since I have no idea if hibernating creatures wake up every once in a while to eat or uh.. relieve themselves, or anything, or if I am in any sort of deeper/hibernation-type sleep than normal.  I have no idea, though I would think not.  But I don't know what it is that makes me capable of sleeping for days on end.

ah, thank you for the link.

so what about RPDers who eat a lot of vegetables?  I think most vegetables have fiber, so does that cause adverse health effects for them?

ahh, I have felt much the same for most of my life, always craving the raw and bloody meat, drooling over it as we pass the meat section in the grocery store, intoxicated by its smell and its taste.. I have only yet recently stumbled across this raw-paleo diet, and have yet to start, but I am just as eager to begin regularly consuming raw meat.

I see that this post has been made about a month ago, though, how has your diet and you health fared since in this time?

Hello, I am new here and quite new to this whole raw-paleo diet, since I have only found out about it a few days ago, but I have been obsessing lately about researching a lot of this diet stuff on the internet.. Though unfortunately I am still currently on an SAD.

I am very interested in starting to eat as much raw as I possibly can, and as soon as I can, and I have no problems with eating things like meat and eggs raw.. I've always preferred to eat my steaks rare and longed to eat them raw, but of course was never allowed and had been afraid of becoming sick from eating them raw since I was always told I would.  Though, it hadn't stopped me from trying raw beef a few times, as well as eating eggs raw sometimes as well, when I was able to sneak it passed my family.  My preference of tastes has always leaned more towards animal foods, so this raw-carnivorous diet intrigues me the most.

However, I was wondering what most of your daily diets looks like, or weekly diet if you don't always eat the same things every day.  I know everyone's dietary needs are individual, but I am curious to know what all you carnivorous-RZCers include in your diets to keep from becoming too deficient in any essential nutrients.. like dietary fiber, which I believe is only found in plant-foods.
Also I wonder how you manage to keep from eating every few hours, especially since raw meat digests faster than cooked meat, and I may just have fast metabolism/digestion but when I eat anything other than meat, I am usually hungry again within a few hours, and things like fruits do nothing to even curb my hunger let alone satisfy it, no matter how much of it I eat.

I have noticed sometimes when I eat fruit, I'll sometimes get parts that are somewhat mushy, and have an "off" taste that is hard to describe.. a bit over-sweet and somewhat bitter, perhaps, which I had also concluded them to be slightly fermented but I was never sure.  Usually I get this in grapes which are mushy rather than crunchy, but I have also eaten a piece of mango which was very soft and slightly mushy compared to the other pieces I had eaten which were very firm and crunchy, and it had that same taste.

I don't know if they were actually fermented, or just over-ripe/rotten, I refuse to drink alcohol so I don't know what it tastes like, which also causes me to avoid consuming any fruit I suspect to be fermented(and i hate mushy fruit anyways).  However, I have no idea if they are good/better for you, but I am curious to know if that peculiar taste does in fact mean that the fruit is fermented.

I once bought some raw beef meat that was already in small chunks at the deli in my grocery store, which was probably the commercial grain-fed tortured-cow beef, though I have no idea but I'm pretty sure it was not grass-fed, and I am not sure if it had ever been frozen or not.  I began to eat it raw pretty much as soon as I got into my car after buying it, but then I noticed the meat began to obtain a brownish colour (like the high-meats in the pictures posted here) and also to acquire something of a rotten taste.. and I am now wondering if it had somehow become high-meat?  I don't know how old or for how long it had been sitting out at the grocery store.  I took the meat to be rotten, though, and stopped eating it raw, and instead took it come and tried cooking it to see if that would improve the taste(this was all before I ever found out about raw diets, I just always liked raw meat).. which was a huge mistake because it only made the taste worse and I ended up throwing all the meat away.

is it possible for meat to have become high or at least partially-high meat so fast?  especially if had been sitting out in the open air in the deli for the entire day?  (though kept in cool/refrigerated temperatures)

You mentioned that eating crap food--though a salad like you described isn't normally considered "crap," and forgive me because I am new to all of this, but what part of it exactly is "crap"?.. or did you mean you were about to go eat something else less healthy?--causes you to break out.  I've only recently, as in within the passed few days, heard about raw paleo diets, so I have never eaten completely raw before (though I usually prefer my food undercooked, but it is all commercial stuff, and I do tend to eat a lot of processed foods) but I have a problem with acne.. and I was wondering exactly what kind of diet it is that you have, that keeps your skin so clear, and also what foods that cause you to break out? 

Thank you.

Hi there, I'm pretty much new not only to this forum, but to the raw paleo diet in general.. it's actually only been within the passed few days that I even discovered such a diet exists.  I find it very intriguing, however, because even though I live in America where everyone loves to eat their food over-cooked and over-processed, I have always preferred eating my foods more on the raw or undercooked side.. Especially my steaks and my eggs, which in fact, if my parents had ever let me, I would have consumed all of my (beef)meat completely raw.  I have actually eaten raw (beef)meat a few times, and I find it absolutely delicious and preferable since I actually find the taste of any beef bought from the grocery store and cooked to taste horrible, and I also love the taste of raw egg yolks (though I'm more adverse to eating the whites raw, mostly only because of the thick slimy part of the whites is unappealing in texture and makes me gag a bit..the more watery-liquid part doesn't bother me, especially if I mix it with the yolk, but I have always thought of egg whites as having hardly any nutritional value, whereas the yolk is rich and preferable).. but I have mostly had to eat them (both beef and eggs) raw in secret so that my parents wouldn't know, because they would not let me eat them raw if they knew.. Even though I am 21 years old, I do still live with my parents and am still subject to their rule.

As far as chicken and pork, I have only ever consumed them fully-cooked, and I am actually afraid to eat them raw, unlike with beef.  Well, I am still somewhat afraid to eat beef raw, but not enough to deter me completely from doing so, or from eating any of my steaks undercooked.. or at least, I was, until I read through this forum and on a few other sites about people eating everything raw with no adverse effects.. it has inspired me to be less afraid in eating completely raw beef.. The only problem I have is the lack of available grass-fed beef(as well as the fact that most of the beef/eggs/milk and such available to me are of the commercial grocery-store variety rather than organic in any way..unless you count that I drink/eat Real California Milk/Cheese, since I live in Southern California and made sure to always buy milk with the "Real California Milk" label on it, but I'm thinking organic milk might be a better choice), as far as I know I have never come across grass-fed before.. The closest I could find by trying a Fresh & Easy store near my work was never-frozen corn-fed beef, which I think I shall like to try eating raw.. Although they came in rather large quantities, and I would have to eat it all at once before I got home, to avoid revealing the fact that I'm eating raw meat to my Dad.  I think I might also try checking Trader Joe's.. I know someone on this forum who also lives in Southern California mentioned they were able to find grass-fed beef and such at a Whole Foods store, but when I looked up the nearest one to me, it was much too far away.

The carnivorous no carb diet interests me the most, however, because I am very fond of meat and animal products(I eat meat everyday if I can, and always eat steak whenever we eat at a sit-down restaurant, which I always order as rare, and is my most favourite thing of all to eat; I also drink milk everyday if we have it, and/or eat cheese, but I think I read that it is best to exclude all dairy from your diet?  if so, then where do you get your calcium?), and rather disgusted by vegetables, especially leafy ones like spinach or lettuce, which feel very inedible to me.  I've also mostly always hated breads, which seems to be one of the main grain-foods that everyone in this forum seems to avoid, though.  Are grain-foods a thing that ALL of you do not eat?  And if so, then what exactly do these grain-foods entail, other than bread?

Oh yes, and I wanted to add that I have never tried liver before, but I really want to try eating beef-liver raw.. I know that it is not something to eat everyday, only every once in a while, but I don't even know if I like it.. but I'm also not even sure if I will be able to find any at all, let alone grass-fed beef-liver which would be better.  Would they have it at Trader Joe's, or at least grain-fed at a typical grocery store?  Another thing I want to try is cow-bone-marrow.. (I really like eating cow.)  I don't even know where to begin looking for raw bone marrow that I can eat, though.. but anyways.

Fruit, on the other hand, is delicious and I love to eat it, but I have read that there are carnivorous animals like Tigers and Wolves in the wild who eat fruit, so I don't think eating fruit excludes one as a carnivore.  However, I've been reading that fruit is very detrimental to your teeth, which causes me to want to cut back on fruit despite how delicious I find it.  But then I have another dilemma, because for some reason I find the taste of water to be absolutely disgusting.  I know most people say water has no taste, but I can assure you that I taste it very much, no matter if the water is from tap, filtered, or bottled of any brand.. and I can only stand to take a gulp or two of water, only after I have just eaten something and it's flavour is still in my mouth and thus dilutes the flavour of the water for a moment, before the water then causes me to gag.  I don't know why this is, but it creates quite a problem to try to find healthy drinks and to not become dehydrated.. I tend to rely on the liquids from milk and/or fruit juices along with just plain fruit to keep me hydrated, I noticed that when I drank more milk and ate more fruit I was less thirty for the juice.  However when I am at work and become thirsty I tend to drink soda since we can get them for free or very cheap and I can't get milk or juice or fruit, or at least not for free, and I can't afford to be buying expensive little bottles of milk or juice everyday.

I am also glad to find that intermittent fasting seems to be beneficial to health, because I do so instinctively all the time.. or at least somewhat.  There will be days that I don't feel like eating much, and won't consume anything for a few days other than juice or milk to keep from becoming dehydrated, and even so I don't feel thirsty often, though I supposed drinking milk and juice doesn't count as fasting completely, but I hardly have a choice when I cannot drink water.  I have also noticed a bit that whether I feel like fasting, or even the opposite where I seem to feel hungry no matter how much I eat, depends on my menstrual cycle.. I find that I tend to be hungry all the time and able to eat large quantities of food when I am closer to starting my period, whereas I only ever feel like fasting when I am not near starting, or not on.  This is a more recent observation though, and I'm not sure yet when I feel like fasting is, relative to when I am ovulating.

Well, sorry that my post is so long, but I am so glad to find that there are people out there who do prefer a completely raw diet, and not just ones who are vegans or vegetarians.. but even those of you who go with a completely carnivorous diet!  And raw, at that, without any bad health side effects!  I would really like to try a raw carnivorous diet, but I don't know what all I would have to include in such a diet to make sure I am not missing any essential nutrients that would cause health problems.  Do any of you have any diet plans that you could share?

Throughout my entire life, I have rarely brushed my teeth, mostly only when I was younger and my parents made me.  Even then, the most often I ever brushed my teeth was once a day, because I always hated the taste of toothpaste, though I used it when my parents told me to brush my teeth.  Now that I am older and my parents aren't always telling me what to do, I hardly ever brush my teeth, nor have I been to the dentist since I was about 5 or 6 years old.  The times I felt guilty for not brushing my teeth, I usually brushed using only water.  I have never had a cavity or much tooth problems, except that my teeth are a bit on the yellow side, and also more recently I've noticed my breath doesn't smell so great.  Because of that I ended up buying some listerine to swish my mouth with and toothpaste to brush with, but I'm afraid that it will kill any of the good bacteria in my mouth along with the bad.  I've always had high saliva production though, I am probably constantly swallowing every 10 - 20 seconds.

I don't think not brushing your teeth will do much of anything to your teeth, no matter what your diet.  My diet pretty much consists of mostly cooked foods, though I've mostly preferred my food to be more on the undercooked side, with rare steaks and sunny-side-up eggs.. but I do live in America, and eaten my share of overcooked, processed, and fast foods, and drinking plenty of soda.. which is all probably more of a contribution to my yellowish teeth and bad breath.

However, I have lately been wanting to take better care of my teeth, and I was wondering if anyone knew a good store where I could buy some of that miswak?  A store which could be found in Southern California?