I'm in the same boat and doing many things to get there.

On the one hand i do what Tonyvee says, i save as much money as possible and invest it. Just 3 minutes per month to put it in some index ETFs, only passive investing.

On the other hand im also working on 'starting my own business'. This year May i went from 5 days a week to 4 days a week at my slave job to free up some time to things about what to do with my live in general. One day in the week does not sound like a lot of extra time, but i have found that you can actually do A LOT in a day, especially when you do things that you like/love to do.
I have used that time to finish my B&B, i have a pretty big garage which had no real purpose. So i remodelled it to a room with a bathroom. Since august i have started renting it out, and had already 40 nights booked, so it is doing very well. I'm also using my day off to produce, in this case in the garden. I'm turning my lawn into vegetable garden and working on increasing the fertility. I haul horsesh*t into it (for free) and hope to grow some more food next year. I'm also thinking about maybe making natural hard soaps and selling them. We spent quite some time looking for them and locally there seems to be nobody making it. These are some of the small things i doing now, and i will see where it goes.

Basically my 'philosophy' here is to be able to do as much things as possible myself. I see it as my hobby to do everything for as little money as possible. When you do this, you will learn many new skills and all these skills will have added value imo. Also you will save a lot of money (i think), but it will be small amounts that are difficult to track. For instance, i spent 14 euros to buy some buttons and elastic bands to fix my garden lounge set pillow casings, instead of buying new. The same applies to sewing on a button on your pants, or fixing a whole in your shirt instead of buying new ones. Closing a hole in your biketire, changing your own car oil, instead of hiring a plumber try to unclog your own sink, instead of buying a (very expensive) big garden planter buy some wood and screws and make your own. Buying finished products is for chumps, only buy raw materials ;-). When trying all these new things you will also notice what you really like to do, and that might be something that you could use to start a business. After all, if you like doing something, you will eventually be good at it. And i think you are doing REAL things, everyday things, things that will always be needed. You will automatically be NOT working on trendy/nonsense things that will blow over in a couple months. If you like doing one of these things, you will have a possible stable market. People will also need to eat, need somebody to fix there car/house etc. People do not always need trendy/nonsense. The other route would be to find a whole in the market and fill it, but i think there is a very big chance that you will end up doing something you do not like and/or doing trendy stuff.

My wife is Spanish, and likes language. Since we live in the Netherlands she has an easy market. She started her own Spanish teaching business ~3 years ago, because she couldn't find any job at the time. It really took at least 1 year to get the ball rolling. But we really notice that when you have made a nice name for yourself people will find you. When she started she had to look for students and did a lot of promotion, but now people are finding her. She is not making a full time living on our own yet, but she will get there i think.

So i would say that you have to start DOING. I personally, and my wife also, tend to spend to much time thinking about everything. But then you end up doing nothing and also learning nothing. The real learning start when you DO things. Do not think you can just jump from employment into your own business, it has to grow slowly. Which is nice, since then you can have the 'safety' of your employment and work on your business in your spare time.

I also see/read a lot that people that are self-sufficient might not have 1 business, but many small business. So i try to focus on making/saving money everywhere i can and maybe after doing that for some years i will make a full salary.

I got pretty inspired by mr moneymoustache. He has a blog where he discusses FI and ways to get there. He has a lot of good ideas there.

I really like discussing/thinking about these things. So if you want to discuss more specific topics, let me know :-)

How long does it usually take before the balloon becomes inflated? I made my batch on 09-09, now there is a sediment growing on the bottom of the bottle, but there is no gas forming yet. That is normal? Do i need more patience? 

Thanks for the recipe. I had all the supplies at home, so i made a 1 litre test bottle during lunch. Let's see what happens :-)

Hi and welcome,

Sorry to hear about your childhood. It sounds like you have some trauma from this, and this might indeed result in stress, which results in trouble in general and maybe for you specific eating issues. My wife used to be, and sometimes still is, very stressed up and to a point where she really vomited every food she eat. Not everyday, but on the days she was very stressed, in a period of about a year where her health was very bad. She tried all sorts of food but everything came out, her body did not want anything.

I think it is good that you are educating yourself, it sounds to me that you get stress when you think about doctors. But the issue that most people have is that they think going to the doctor (in the normal medical system) is the only way. Educating yourself and experimenting will give you maybe more confidence to take charge of your health. this might result in less stress, because you rely on doctors less.

I do agree with Dingeman: in my experience the real healing only starts when eating as much raw (meat) food as possible. So i would look firstly for meat that you can eat raw, whatever it is, to start feeding your body with building material. You can think of it as taking pills, nobody likes taking pills, and they taste like shit. But you do it to get better, you could try to look at eating raw meat the same way. Provided that your body does not give you extreme discomfort when eating it. The more nutrients and building blocks you put in your body, the better you feel, and the less you will feel like drinking coke and eating doughnuts. It will be a slow process, and you will need to have faith that you are doing the right thing for your body. Even when maybe sometimes it does not feel like the right thing because of detox (sickness).

Hi guys,

Thanks for the suggestions. I was also thinking of quitting dairy for a bit, eventhough i really enjoy drinking milk/kefir/butter. Hopefully i can get a constant supply of fresh pigsfat to replace the butter with, will discus this tomorrow with the local farmer. I do use milk as hydration, especially needed when i do sports or work outside... so i will have to see how to stay hydrated.

The intestinal noises also sometimes appear in the evening, and they do not bother me in those cases. It is only in the morning when i feel something is off. If it would be only noises, i wouldnt mind to much, although i do feel that normal/healthy digestion would be soundless.

@Sabertooth, you do not eat any dairy anymore now? It always gives/gave you issues?

@Odal, i do eat high meat indeed. I should try to do this more regularly. Due to the smell i eat it outside and due to the crappy weather in the Netherlands, i automatically eat it sporadically...

I do see many issues along the way for having kids (i don't have any yet). Indeed there is 'forced' brainwashing (like you, Smokeyquartz, experienced in school with the video you mentioned. That sounds horrible), bullying (happened to me and my wife when we were young, and when you work through this, you come out better on the other end), etc etc. But i take this as a challenge and will face it head on. I do not want my children brainwashed and im thinking about moving to a different country+lifestyle to facilitate this. But in the end, your children will grow up and make their own choice and will have to find their way. I'm (very) happy to be alive, even more since i started eating raw meat. And i would wish this upon other humans as well, so being against having children seems to make me a hypocrite in a way.

I also do not believe that having children is a punishment for women, i think this only applies to the unhealthy (which is the average person now-a-days). My mother has 5 kids, and see always got annoyed when seeing people in movies scream their lungs out while giving birth. She found it totally ridiculous and dramatic. I think this is also part of the brainwashing of the masses to not make any babies. Scaring people into not doing it. And you also hear many young parents suffer with their babies and all the issues, but it is no surprise to me when you have a look at the environment (inside and out) these babies grow up. I'm generally more surprised that people are not sicker than they already are.

@political atheist: I'm a bid confused by your stand against having children. You seem to be very much against governments (it seems), but still you agree with them on not having children? Or do you not think that their is a big agenda from governments against having children?

I believe Aajonus mentioned that when you detox from the brain/head, it (also) goes out via the mouth. Toxins are dumped in the mouth, you swallow them and they end up in the toilet eventually. Do you notice any odd/metallic flavors in your mouth? Or dry mouth (possibly indicating a lot of fat used for detox). When i started eating raw meat, i had a period of some months were i had a lot of dry mouth and odd/metallic flavors. These flavours appeared at random it seemed. Of course when eating the flavor disappeared due to the food. I took Aajonus advice and increased fat intake and drink his lubrication formula (i still drink one of these every day on average). This helped very well with the dry mouth. I don't remember the last time having these flavors in my mouth, so must be some time ago. This might indicate that you are indeed detoxing from your brain.

I do not have a lot of experience with different kinds of headaches, as a almost never have any.

I just saw that when you are a 'add bot' you get censored here! So watch out, and keep acting human :-P

I havent heard anything about it being popular to dislike British people. In the Netherlands everybody agrees that the French are horrible, but still we all go bring our money to them during summer holiday... so yeah....

I don't think there is much to do about it, except for ignoring all platforms that do it. You say it would be educational for everyone on the forum to read the exchange, and you say that there was no reason to remove what was posted. Usually stuff that gets deleted is at least somewhat educational, so there you have the reason for deleting your posts ;-). So maybe you should be  proud that you got censored!

Somebody on this forum has a signature that says something about people not being able to handle it when somebody say 'the truth' and it cause people to do all sort of strange things. My own experience (both within myself and of others in my surroundings) has led me to believe that this is very accurate. Everybody want to stay in their little bubble, and some people have god-like admin power to enforce their bubble on other people of the forum.

Hi all,

I have been browsing and reading here for a while and it seemed that the posting is drying up a bit. So i thought i would join and do my part in keeping things alive. 

I'm from the (south-ish side of the) Netherlands and have been eating mostly raw carnivore for about 1 year. Before this i was doing cooked carnivore for about 1,5 years and before that 'standard' keto for 2 years. Me and my wife started out with keto as an experiment for my wife's health and this helped a lot, although she is still struggling quite a bit with her health (she is on cooked carnivore now). I'm doing pretty good/amazing (although that is also what i thought when i was on the SAD diet..) on raw carnivore. Currently eating mostly (organ) meat (chicken/beef/pork), butter and milk, eggs, and some fruit here and there. Hoping to/working on healing my back from scoliosis, my bad eyesight and bad breath (this one is a bit puzzling to me) and i'm sure many other aliments will come up when those are done.

That is it for now. I'm looking forward to discussing food and health with everybody here :-)

Regards,
Mark