I don't have experience with drinking raw blood (yet), but whenever I eat something new and get pains/aches. I continue eating (unless it does not taste ok) to see if it is just a triggered detox, or really the food i'm eating. All the times i have tried this, it was always just a temporary detox. The pains/aches always disappeared after some days and i could continue eating the food without issues.

I do ONLY do this when i trust the source of the food. When i doubt the quality of the food, i stop eating the food. So in your case, you have doubts about your friend's animals. Maybe best to retry with only blood from your own animals that you trust.

I do not believe in being overloaded with vitamins/mineral when you eat raw+natural foods. My body always signals me when I ate enough, food loses it's taste completely and i stop eating.

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I have been doing almost all of these things the last 2-3 years, and the things i haven't done yet from the list are WIP (expect for meditation). And i indeed can confirm that happiness increases to extreme levels.

most of this is BS... these videos are assuming that hoaxvid exists hahhahahahahahahhahahaha

controlled 'opposition' 101

you ant heal scamvid because it does not exist

bioweapons are a psyop but chemical weapons(all pharmaceuticals) are real.

Bioweapons? You mean like mustard gas etc? Or man-made viruses and bacteria that are weaponized? You have some more info on it? sites/books?

I did not look into this guy. Clearly he has been launched to distract everybody and create more chaos and discussion. Indeed controlled opposition 101

Are you sure the butter is clean and raw? Does the labelling say it is raw? If it doesn't it most likely is not raw. Throwing up sounds to me like the butter is not ok.

Could be a detox trigger, but you could also just eat less and try to slowly build up. Or switch to another fat source and try again later. You mention it goes ok when you combine it with meat, so that is also an option to eat it. Or make it into a drink with eggs and honey, maybe that will help the digestion as well. I think pineapple also helps well with digestion of fats, so that might be an option.

I think it will not be possible to miss any micro nutrients when eating only raw liver.

I would however be concerned about macro nutrients. Liver is mostly protein with a little bit of carb, but there will be no/very little fat on it. So i would find an animal fat source to add to your liver. When eating so many nutrients in the form of beef liver, your body will need a proper supply of fat to get rid of the toxins you will be detoxing. And also you will need a fuel source in general, and fat will be very good for that.

The US system has collapsed before, during the great depression, and yet life went on. My grandmother was born in 1937 and raised poor as poor could be in a log cabin built in a mountain holler. Her Parents were subsistence farmers, hunters and moonshiners; she never seen an automobile until she was 5 years old. Without any outside access to the world, she grew up never knowing how poor they were until growing up and moving into the city.

Did you grandmam have a good life, according to her? Not seeing a car your entire life does not say anything about being happy. And moving to the city would, in my opinion, not really be a step forward.

I'm also thinking about this. My thoughts so far:
- Depending on your time frame, i do not think there is any country that is safe. The countries that really go against the madness will just have their presidents replaced. So maybe some country or state looks good now, it might not be the case in the (near) future. So i'm more thinking about finding a local area that seems good, regardless of the country/state/province it is in.
- My wife is from Spain, and therefore it would be easier for us to move to Spain, because she i native and i (being Dutch) can just go along with her. Spain is not any better or worse than the Netherlands (where we are now) regarding the madness, Spain does have an enormous amount of empty land. Just like many other countries. So we are thinking of getting a camper and exploring the empty parts. Ground is very cheap there, and therefore we might be able to buy some without any mortgage. If you move away to be more self-sustained, it would be  good to go to a place where the land is cheap(er).
- My assumption is that in small remote communities people will still believe in the madness, but i'm assuming that they will not quickly go running to the police when people do not go along with it all. I would be interested in your thoughts about this. As i'm very doubtful about the back-stabbing nature of people that i do not know. And also about that nature of people i do know, for instance i would not be surprised if my sister in law in the future would report me to some anti 'anti-vaxx' authority.
-  I have been doing some research and experiments in trying regenerative ag with (grazing) animals, and it really seems possible to improve any land to a great extent wrt fertility. So for looking at land that can actually sustain some people, i think with time most land should be able to do it. It will not some (time) investment in the beginning to possible get it to that state. But im willing to get cheaper land now that has to be restored a bit, compared to getting more expensive land. If you do not take care of it properly, you will deplete the fertility over time anyway. So you will have to learn proper management in any case. I read that 5 acres, ~2ha, should be enough for a family to be completely self sustained (that is included tons of vegetables that many people here will most likely not need for themselves).
- I will not go to any different continent, both our families are in Europe, and i do not want to risk not being able to fly anymore in the future. ( i saw some governmental plans of the UK a while back where they were discussing closing almost all airports in the UK for climate reasons). Staying in Europe, it will be always possible to visit, even if it is by foot.
- I'm trying not to have the 'undead/sheep/zombie apocalypse' dictate my actions. I have realised during all this craziness that family, good food and nature are most important. And im trying to change my life now more in that way. Moving to a remote place in nature to homestead is just something that seems like a good thing to do, whether there is complete madness in the rest of the world or not.
- Related to the above point, i think that if you wait for the day of the apocalypse to start with acting, you will be very (to) late. That is why i want to move ASAP. My wife is finishing some studies here now, and after that i would really want to make serious steps to move and be more self-sufficient. It will take many years to develop your homestead and communities before you are self sufficient.
- I'm assuming that there will be no apocalypse, no specific date where everything really goes to shit. Everything will just get worse and worse, but most people will go along with it. They will just accept that their lives are getting worse and worse. The people in power are to smart to have an apocalypse, because that would mean that the entire system will collapse. I would think that the people in power would not want that to happen, because they are pretty happy with this system i guess. If anybody has any theories on why everything will crumble, please share them. I'm curious about this.

Please share your thoughts on my thoughts =)

These dynamic conflicts of (power and control)(creator and Creation)(Slaves and Masters) have played out through the sagas of the ages, and for those with eyes to see, are being played out right now on a scale and sophistication, so grandiose, it boggles the mind to begin to fathom. From within this wilderness backwater forum; from the tiger eyed view, I sit as a silent (and sometimes not so silent) witness, to this divine comedy; not knowing whether to laugh, cry or scream. If there is anything I am sure of, it is that those wild angels watching over the fleshlings of earth are getting one hell of a show.

This is mostly how I try to see this whole situation. Looking into what is really going on with people, the level of brainwash, the fearmongering, all the systems at play is really awe-inspiring to me. I look at it with great admiration for whomever put it all into play. It did took me a while to be able to look at it this way, and i think somewhere along that journey i realized my life might be very different from what i expected. It might also be filled with a lot of suffering and eventually (of course) death, maybe prematurely.

This is also what Victor Frankl discusses in his "Man's search for meaning" -> to be able to cope with these kind of situations it might be best to look at it as an experiment. Some experiment you can control, like your diet, some you cannot. Either way, if you feel curious about what is going to happen, life becomes more doable.

I share your sentiment about having someone to talk to in real life. I think you are doing good with going to meetings, staying at home you will never meet anyone.

Regarding whether your nose is running due to the shredding work or the virus, Politcal Atheist spammed this forum regularly, with the same post, which contains some good information regarding virusses, illness, etc.

Hang in there, and focus on the things that matter, like your family and health :-)

I had the same problem.
I really enjoy warm water with salt.
Sometimes I add lemon juice or vinegar.
For me it does the trick and my milk cravings are gone.

I would prefer to not eat salt. But indeed making a drink with lemon juice or vinegar is very refreshing. Also making watermelon puree with eggs is very nice. Just get a seedless variety, else you have to take out hundreds of seed before making puree..

Looking at what you eat i would agree with Sabertooth on doing an elimination diet to start of fresh. You are eating many many different kind of foods all together. It will be impossible to pin-point what might be causing any issues if you keep eating so many different things.

Are you 100% sure that the quality of your meats is good? That would also help to provide some confidence that if/when you do an elimination diet at least the food should not be a problem.

Feeling weak and tired could also be that your body is cleaning up. I have been feeling more weak and tired also for the last couple of weeks. I do not worry to much and just rest more when needed. I'm also increasing my food intake during this time to make sure my body has all it needs with whatever it is doing. But, your case of weakness seems more severe. I still work etc, i just have been sleeping ~10hrs per day and doing less physical activity.

Are you loosing muscle or fat? If your body is cleaning i would eat enormous amounts of fat (untill it comes out undigested), because that is what your body is probably using up now.

Hi Aco,

Good to hear you are doing better! Regarding being 'orthodox raw': when i started transitioning to raw meat I also did not like the taste of raw meat to much and switched between cooking and raw. But eventually it turned around and now i do not like the taste of cooked meat anymore. You need some time to get used to things i guess. Most important thing is to get in the nutrients :-)

I find it difficult to distinguish between when certain symptons are directly from the food, or from detox. Like you say, you eat some eggs and get diarrhea. Is that because the eggs are bad and you body does not want them? Or is it because you start detoxing? If you want to answer this question, i think you should try different quality eggs. Buy them at different places, and see if that changes something.

About detoxing all your life: i do not know how old you are, but im 33 years old now and have been doing raw for a bit more than 1 year. I'm pretty strict with what i eat, and if I eat junk (like cake or something) I only do it when it is homemade stuff, nothing from the factories. I have been poisoning myself for 32 years (all my life), eventhough i think the body is capable of great things, i think it will take a long time to get rid of all those years of abuse. I've read that AV was even finding pharma waste coming out of peoples bodies after decades.

I feel way better on a daily basis eating this way, so i'm not too concerned with how long detox will take (although i do not have extreme reactions often, i'm actually waiting/hoping for them). I'm only concerned with stopping the poisoning by food/chemicals/cleaners/shampoos/water/etc. I think that is more important.

It is also a matter of trusting your body to do the right thing, but that is related to your doubts on detox theory. Nature everywhere cleans itself, so why would our bodies be any different? 'We' are just unfortunate to being raised in an extremely toxic environment.

If i were in your shoes i would stick to eating raw eggs and getting diarrhea. Meanwhile trying different eggs to see if it changes anything. I heard Mr Milkjar (youtube channel) saying that he drank raw milk and had diarrhea for (i think) weeks/months. All the while he also had back ache, then one day the diarrhea stopped as well as the back ache. So he concluded that the milk detoxed his back. Are you aching anywhere specific when eating eggs and having diarrhea?

edit: i do not like melting fat, more and more it is starting to disgust me. Many cooked foods, especially meats become more and more unappetizing to me as time goes by.